TheBloodyLady
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Nov 30, 2021 7:14 AM
TheBloodyLady
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RVME
This is the big lie. The Republicans stole the American Dream and sent it to China.
iwantmytwodollars
It's stressful in the fast food industry. Orders are coming in from apps, online, drive through and inside the store.
korvkiosk
Why aren't millennials spending more? Don't they know they're killing the market?
GpaSags
Why do we have to pay burger flippers $15/hr, it's just a bunch of high school kids anyway. Also, why can't they get anyone to work lunch?
crodrigues
it's even worse now, they are advertising X salary, but when they hire they change it to Y, which is less than X, and think that's ok.
forensicfilesbestofseason1
I’m getting more and more comfortable with the idea of working at Dominoes
OmenJones
It's not a mystery that's only 20 years old. It's a mystery that's more like 50 or 60 years old.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
My favourite job was Red Robin when I was 16
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Mine was Miami Subs in college. So much drinking, free food and sex. Plus, I got to schedule around my classes.
WGG25
want burgers? eat the rich instead
Subsound
They're organic and free range
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Sennanostromo
anywhere near as much as me? I’m sorry but I’m not sorry.
fabledmanatee
..... /s?
kashflow
It's a tough job. The only reason people talk down about it is because of the exploited pay and not the hard work.
rando84
People talk it down because it’s a tough job for low pay. Regardless of how much it should pay, it’s an economic dead end at present that (1
rando84
workers should avoid if they can get into any better paying field. (2
kashflow
I hear you but I think there should still be a voice for ppl in those situations. People would go back to slavery if it wasn't illegal.
Shaodyn
"Minimum wage workers don't deserve $15/hour" is a weird way to say "I acknowledge that some jobs are necessary for our society to function,
SpecialOedipus
$15/hr is still shit money. Companies need to step up and provide proper career paths with guaranteed time based raises.
Shaodyn
If minimum wage had kept up with productivity, it'd be $24/hour.
SpecialOedipus
Any respectable job pays that after a 2-3 years. There just aren't many options, basically just college or an apprenticeship.
Shaodyn
The problem is that you need experience to get a job and need a job to get experience. Even entry-level jobs require years of experience.
SpecialOedipus
Apprenticeships are entry level require zero exp and most will pay atleast $20 after 2 years. Like I said, college or journeyman basically.
zHurk777
Remember, the GOP is against a min wage, preferring market forces. Yet, cry when the market says wages are too low.
Imsurprisedihaventchangedmyusernameyet
Remember, wages are steadily increasing without federal legislation. When people said "go find a different job" they were right.
Shaodyn
And now those same people are complaining that people are finding better-paying jobs after years of being told to.
Imsurprisedihaventchangedmyusernameyet
Different people, I've been a free market advocate, and think businesses that can't keep workers are getting what they deserve.
Imsurprisedihaventchangedmyusernameyet
Not sure what it's called, but I see a lot of "lumping"? Where an "enemy" is built of everything that a person disagrees with.
Shaodyn
but I believe the people doing them should be forced to live in poverty."
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
I agree with your statement, but does society need fast food to function? Wouldn't it be better with no fast food joints? #devilsadvocate
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
or #devilsavocado
Shaodyn
Not just fast food joints, but grocery stores, restaurants, bars, basically all other stores....
CarcosaAndTheYellowKing
^^ This. The industry survives off of low cost labor, and cannot meet the expected price point if they pay more than $15 an hr.
TakeMeToFrontPageAndBackFiveTimesADay
The price point isn’t the issue, the minimum wage is higher in other countries and mcds still manage to keep their prices down
CarcosaAndTheYellowKing
Maybe should read, "cannot meet the expected corporate profits if they pay more than $15 an hour."
Shaodyn
Or even "the vast majority of corporations will fight to the death not to let so much as a single penny out of their hands."
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
I'd agree with you if the living wage were 15/h. however it varies from $7-$33 depending on what county you live in
Shaodyn
$15 is just a start. We really do need more.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
15/h would make it impossible to live in rural America. It would be the equivalent of SF setting a $66 minimum wage.
Shaodyn
We've been fighting over $15/hr for over a year. If you want to start an even bigger fight for more money, go ahead.
Mewmus
flipping burgers should only be used as stopping point while you find a better job, it shouldn't be a career
creepwood
Every single full time job should be enough to raise a family in a dignified way. No Exceptions
DanaConti5
Why, though? The restaurant industry is a thing, and a distinct thing at that.
KevinMenzel
Then it should pay a living wage so it can be a stopping point, not a "lose money while still working" point.
Mewmus
1. "living wage" varies from place to place, and 2. people go into those jobs knowing full well they pay shit wages
KevinMenzel
Which is maybe why people aren't going into those jobs. Regardless, no job should pay a shit wage.
Mewmus
a lot more automation will come of this, i can almost guarantee it.
DanaConti5
It’s coming regardless *shrugs*
kashflow
What makes you say that? It's a hard job that fulfills a need.
Mewmus
i disagree, burger king isn't a "need"
kashflow
Food is a need. If your example isn't flipping burgers it'll be someone else in the food industry. You also didn't answer my question.
Mewmus
food is a need, fast food isn't a "need".
kashflow
If you could convince everyone who buys fast food to buy from Joe's fruit stand instead you'll have the same problem of exploited workers.
Mewmus
i say it shouldn't be a career because people should want more with their lives than simply being a whopper flopper
kashflow
Respectfully asking in what sense do you mean? Money wise, doing something for the community, or doing better on a personal level?
chrisat928
Do fast food places close during school hours?
LiquidSodium
I don't think literally a single business makes a point of doing such a thing so....no
fishboy81
They would love to open to the 80% of the population that are in school during the day but its just not worth it
Grimdude
You can't be serious
fishboy81
Was supposed to be the 80% aren't in school. And it was a joke. Back to school for me
ActuallyMyNamesMarina
There's a Wendy's about 3 minutes down the road from my house that closes at 4pm because no one will work evenings lol
RandAIFlagg
There's a handful in northern Cincinnati that refuse to hire anyone to work day shift so after breakfast the McDonalds and Burger King >>
RandAIFlagg
>> up the street from my office close until about 4pm and then run so poorly that I don't even bother with them any more.
Aestos
You mean like for breakfast and lunch, a time when they make a huge chunk of their money? No, they don't.
PoultryInMotion
Most McDonald’s breakeven for the day by the end of breakfast
Kaofael
Some don't even close in the dead of night.
DanaConti5
That seems to have changed for a few places post covid.
B2SteakSauce
That’s when they’ll see the Hashslingingslasher
TheGhostMinx
The RashpingingFlasher?!?!?!
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
The Sash-Ringing... Flash-Singing...
messica2
What-a-burger is 24/7. Even on Thanksgiving the one here was open 24 hrs. They pay the worst out of all the restaurants in town too...trash.
DreadPierateRoberts
Even at reasonable salary it doesn't cost much more to keep open 24 hours. Most places probably should
AnonymousSourceOfGenitals
In reasonable countries you get at least 1.5x your hourly wage minimum working nights or weekends, anything else is insulting really
DreadPierateRoberts
Yeah that is good we should do that
PoultryInMotion
I make about $50k flipping burgers at a divebar. My owner is progressive enough to have addressed the wage issue by raising her food cost >>
littleswimming
i wish we could do this for teachers.
TyrannosaursInF14s
loveer
is $50k seen as alot?
messica2
In some places it's well above average. Where I live the average household income is 36,400 and per capita is 22,700. Low cost of living tho
SpecialOedipus
50k for a chef at a dive bar is pretty great.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
For flipping burgers, yes. U.S. Census Bureau lists the annual real median personal income at $36k in 2019. Min wage is $15k.
loveer
well thats sad to hear, here in denmark the average mcdonalds worker gets that and 5 weeks of paid leave
PoultryInMotion
<<10%, and giving 10% of food sales to the cook. Its fast paced short order cooking and just me and a bartender. Average meal is $1-2 more>>
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anabobcatz
Make sure they know how much is appreciated!
anabobcatz
It's*
PiratePerry
I did the math on 50k 15/hr, so does that mean that you are working 60+ hrs a week?
Raenon
"and 10% of food sales to the cook" Dude has 15/hr base plus profit sharing. That's not a bad gig.
PoultryInMotion
Yeah I get $15 an hour for being there, and ten percent sales on whatever I cook (similarly to a tip) on top of that.
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rudejohn
Mcdonalds is now paying $16/hr in my little Michigan township. It's great to see!
DaveMeowthewz
Wow where
stlouiscardinalsfan7
BW3s and Noble Romans in my city 10 minutes north of Indianapolis are paying $16 + tips. The circle K gas station is starting at $18hr.
OtterAvalanche
It really does make a diff. My last job I worked 70-100 hrs a week for a smaller paycheck than I get working 48 hours now. Ill never go back
wtforero
Same here buddy, glad you too found greener pastures
MonsieurBrochant
100 hrs a week is... 20 hrs a day, wtf?