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(And before you start, yes St Patrick was kidnapped but he escaped and came back to Ireland of his own volition, it was all very exciting)
Allhailmidgetgoat
*legal immigration.
Shortendoftheleg
Before coming to America most of the refugees came to Canada and close to 40000/100000 died because Most were so poor they couldn't buy food
Shortendoftheleg
Plus before Ellis island there was Staten island which was used to process the immigrants.
Tanrir
"it was all very exciting" +1
Skizzlesnap
Regardless of his politics back home anybody who discreetly says fuck you to Trump is a Ace in my book.
CommanderCharmander
Can't wait til Duterte says something about him
Spongybunny
Too bad it's too discrete for Trump to understand.
nominaltoactual2
Yes but did they blow shit up?
Repostcomments
Who? The Irish terrorists or the Muslim terrorists? We both did.Fanatically.
USD1
My fucking god. Trump campaigned against ILLEGAL immigration. Stop lying.
Repostcomments
I have read down too far and have posted too much because of this. Health warning, scrolling down can potentially lead to brain damage.
CharlieTheCharlingCharlie
I wish St.Patrick would remove all the snakes from our government.
imaprettypinkprincessandyoureabitchsosuckitbitch
Good analogy!
LizardEnterprises
Snakes are useful. They keep the rodent population in check. I could do with one fewer human/orangutan hybrids though.
43rdpresident
http://imgur.com/70j3IlA
PascalsBookie
or, we not vote them into office. obviously we want snakes based on the outcomes of the 2016 election. basically voted for oil and banks
StormbreakerBRB
There were never snakes in Ireland.
WEARELEGI0N
when they say he got rid of the snakes in Ireland they really mean pagans
StormbreakerBRB
I know but a lot of people think it's literally snakes
Dirtyoldswish
lwsjrdn
The US still remains one of the top countries for bringing in Immigrants. I think most are against illegal not legal.
lwsjrdn
Ireland is where on a list? https://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/5-countries-that-take-the-most-immigrants
Galdrack
You're aware Ireland couldn't physically take in that many migrants due to it's physical size alone right?
MisterOp
I love how lately a lot of important/famous people are like "yo refugees are important n cool and my fam was one etc" and Trump is 1/2
MisterOp
sitting there while being bombarded with this stuff. Haha. 2/2
PartyLikeIts9999
There is a lot of difference culturally between current refugees vs early Americans and the Irish and early Americans. Also, nations change.
jumbosmooth
Shelter?? Compassion?? Have you ever Historied, bro?? Saloons would say No dogs, No Irish.
InterruptingCat
Immigrant is a very strange way to say slave.
thatludicrousdisplay
Patrick went back to convert the heathens that kidnapped him... are you saying we should let the muslims convert us too?
Repostcomments
Yes
Patches3000
I like how this highlights the current refugee problem without explicitly saying it. In a manner the reminds us of our core American values.
rubbarz
If you have to be reminded of American values you should not be labeled as an American.
SteveMND
True, but you know the nuances of that speech were lost on Trump. He honestly doesn't think certain people are 'people' in that same way.
PotooGeatAndWise
Reminded why I'm often proud of my county.
engineerofdeath
I like how he puts the responsibility on the immigrant. "not what America can do for you but what you can do for America. "
Silvermane
He's right though. Most of them want to come here for welfare purposes, not new opportunities.
engineerofdeath
It's a good view for all to have not just immigrants.
ComputerAntiPope
I am genuinely worried the world will see all of America though Trump's piss-fucking-poor example & it'll fuck up int'l policy for YEARS.
TheRockDude
I got downvoted last time I made a comment suggesting that welcoming poor immigrants was a core American value. idk what imgur wants :(
Skywatcher16
it depends on the crowd on at the time. sounds like you had the misfortune to be found by trumpanzees and other conservatives.
WillTheFifth
It is a core American value. Along with defending the defenseless, and constantly striving to improve ourselves.
ravi893
We say it is but in actuality we ain't about life
ravi893
*that life
WillTheFifth
We're human, so long as we acknowledge our faults we're okay
TheSwagStick
Well like yeah we went to America but fuck man the Americans treated the Irish like shit for years, like Jesus Australia was much better!
troubledanthropomorphichorse
The Irish, Germans, Italians, Polish, Chinese, Jews, Muslims... you'd think that lesson would stick. How many more must be mistreated?
dietderpsy
Still plenty more nationalities to go!
JohnnyTitelips
Okay but come on. Everyone treats the Irish like shit. Literally the third most unfortunate ethnic group in human history.
PillaPlease
What are the first two? And what are some examples?
PillaPlease
What kind of dingus downvotes someone trying to learn? You all need help.
JohnnyTitelips
Natives of the Americas and Jews, in that order. And, examples of people treating the Irish like shit? That'd be every group of people (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
the Irish have interacted with on a significant level.
didthecatevergetthecheeseburger
I mean personally I'd say, Natives of the Americas, Jews, African Slaves/Slaves of all nations including the Irish ones, but I'm no expert.
JohnnyTitelips
But "slave" isn't an ethnicity.
PillaPlease
Oooook then. Thanks for your opinion.
ThaneAnsgar
St. Patrick rid the country of its druids, imposing an authoritarian Christianity on the land. Unless people converted beheaded and then 1/?
ThaneAnsgar
burnt at the stake. So basically a violent religious man who forced the country to convert under fear of death. Good comparison to migrants.
didthecatevergetthecheeseburger
Well I said it was exciting...
JohnnyTitelips
ThaneAnsgar
Uh, okay. Not sure if it's the hangover or what but I have no clue what that's supposed to mean.
JohnnyTitelips
ThaneAnsgar
Are... are you hitting on me?
Bystandr
The protectionist/isolationist movement is about fear, mostly unfounded. However, there IS evil in the world it seeks to shield itself from.
Bystandr
People have to realize its a small total of the worlds population however and not give in to racism or nationalism in making their decisions
Bystandr
but rather by making reasonable and timely decisions that seek to better the lot of everyone as a whole not necessarily at someone elses
Bystandr
expense. Then we evolve as a society together.
wanderingandtotallylost
Yeah, the influx of Protestant immigrants to Ireland did the country great and didn't cause decades of violence or spit the country.
Phaggotboy
Ye because immigrants to the US totally started an upper class that discriminated against the English settlers of before. Oh wait
wanderingandtotallylost
The same thing is happening all across Europe, and as a result self segregated, hostile communities have formed and crime has skyrocketed
Phaggotboy
Where?
wanderingandtotallylost
The result of mass, unchecked protestant immigration to Ireland led to decades of terrorism because of the cultural differences.
Phaggotboy
Except its totally fucking different, as the Crown supported plantations and discrimination, prove immigrants today have state backing
wanderingandtotallylost
The Turkish government is now threatening to flood Europe with migrants as a bargaining chip in trade deals.
Phaggotboy
No, theyre threatenng that because the EU hasn't upheld their deal, they already hav a FTA
wanderingandtotallylost
Mass immigration causes social unrest. Look at any of the Western European countries. Crime has spiked since the migrant crisis.
Phaggotboy
Prove it
wanderingandtotallylost
after 3 generations of being born in Germany, Turks still consider themselves to be turkish primarily
Phaggotboy
Jesus Christ man, stop talking about shit that you don't know about. The German government in the 80s/90s thought that they would leave
Phaggotboy
And made no efforts in integraring them, which only started to happen in the 2000s. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about
DoctorSvenHoek
trump has probably never heard that poem... and this cocksucker CLAIMS NY...
slappypappy
Ok, but St. Patrick was English, captured and enslaved by the Irish... Then after he gained freedom, he felt convicted by God to go back.
didthecatevergetthecheeseburger
Can't be proven but widely thought that St Patrick was Welsh, and the rest is literally in the original post.
sirk1989
Most historians now agree he was Welsh
Repostcomments
Not English, that concept didn't really exist back then. It's also more likely he was from either the Wales area or Scotland.
dbba
It's sad that a useless leader from Ireland can school Trump about the benefits of immigrants
Heratickle
Comparing Irish wanting to contribute to people from countries who HATE us is comparing apples & IEDs.
dbba
I know people from these countries whom Trump would ban, and they certainly do not hate the US. Maybe you should get to know a few
Heratickle
ALL of any group are not the same.Some groups contain more dangerous people & require closer examination before being admitted to protect
Heratickle
everyone,INCLUDING other immigrants from that place.Use of the word BAN shows you intend to present a false argument.I do like some Muslim
Heratickle
immigrants that I know because they are excellent citizens.The problem countries don't have adequate records making useful vetting difficult
alostgeneration
As an American, why is the current Taoiseach useless?
Repostcomments
He's not. Its just standard practice in politics to change leaders after they've made enough controversial decisions to lose popularity 1/2
Repostcomments
Every modern democracy goes through this.Decisions had to be made and he is a politician and he made them.Same was said of the last one. 2/2
dbba
Can't unify the people or get stuff done. Too much fence sitting and pandering to those who would hold back Ireland
dietderpsy
He is a weak leader, introduced water charges and none of the nations major issues have been fixed.
pronoun
Well he didn't school him. He said some vague and general comments about immigrant a century ago.
PartyLikeIts9999
And how many immigrants does Ireland allow in each year?
dbba
Roughly 2% of the population p.a. US rate is about 0.4% p.a. (IIRC)
littlegingerone
Useless..? rude
dbba
Enda is a damp squib. He's as ineffective as any Taoiseach in my memory and while he's no CJ, or Bertie, Ireland could do a lot better
GadenKerensky
All you had to do was run the damn country, CJ!
UnicornIRL
Being a clueless Canuck, this dude is my first experience with Irish politicians. He threw shade at Trump so he's cool in my books.
dbba
He did a good job in this case, but I can imagine how some previous Taoisigh might have been more subtle yet also more vicious
rfaslt2
Isn't that the same gold curtain Republicans claimed was Obama's Muslim prayer curtain ?
Whiskey461
Yup, the same one (or one like it) that's been there for years before Pres. Obama.
shinagami091
Is a prayer curtain even a thing?
SepiaSkies
In retrospect, the popularity of stupid conspiracy theories on major news networks should have really clued us in to what would happen next.
ClapTrapConjurerOfTheDarkArts
Trumps a Muslim confirmed
swaptrick
As a republican, those were morons not republicans. "What's the difference" Har har. Also they were legal Ellis Island immigrants.
Skywatcher16
not all republicans are stupid. but almost all stupid people are republican. cept for antivax/antiGMO dipshits. who are just as bad.
SepiaSkies
Um. The Irish famine spurred migration almost 50 years before ellis island opened. What were you saying about morons vs republicans?
TristanVIII
So we're admitting the Irish are immigrants now? When will we admit that they dealt with a lot of racism and prejudice too?
PillaPlease
Nobody denies that. It's also foolish to deny that it was vastly different than Asians, Blacks, Latinos, etc...
randomthug
Pretty sure thats common knowledge. I learned about Irish indentured servitude in highschool back in the 90's. Yeah thats common knowledge
Heratickle
Did the teach that Irish couldn't read English & what they had to sign or that most came in chains & were sold for life?
randomthug
Yeah I remember learning about how it was just slavery. Not at the level of black people but slavery still. I mean I'm sure when I was/1
randomthug
in school I didn't learn all that. Picked up a bunch over the years likely. It's horrible but not black people are not even human horrible
Heratickle
Thanks 4 reply.It was absolutely horrible, but because it happened to more blacks is no reason to deny that it happened to the Irish also.
CleverUsernameThatAppliesToTheAboveImage
For those opening the comment above, I suggest you Google "Irish Slave Trade" and learn yoself some thangs.
Galdrack
Yea no the Irish Slave Trade is completely fabricated bullshit.
Galdrack
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/19/how-myth-irish-slaves-became-favorite-meme-racists-online
Galdrack
https://medium.com/@Limerick1914/all-of-my-work-on-the-irish-slaves-meme-2015-16-4965e445802a
Galdrack
You can tell it's bullshit cause only 3rd generation+ Irish Americans harp on about it.
Repostcomments
Won't matter. See above comment. White people can't be victims of racism. It doesn't how much of the islands population was "re-colonised"
JudgeMentalCat
They dealt with it but don't anymore- sadly, many Irish people gained accepted status by heavily buying into anti-black racism
JudgeMentalCat
Rather than say "end the racism" the Irish community at large said "look we're white too!"
JudgeMentalCat
Which is a problem with many minority groups, even today. The LG part of the LGBT tends to spit on those who helped build their movement
JudgeMentalCat
rather than acknowledging that prejudice still exists, they want to play the "we're just like you!" Narrative
jsnforce
I'm sorry, they're white. White people are always racist. Never victims. That's fact. -SJWs
PillaPlease
Or you could not make it worse. Whatever....
jsnforce
But that's exactly the attitude people have.
PillaPlease
Your attitude? Yes. I can see that.
Rabh
huge groan
jsnforce
moderate chortle?
Birdfarm1
Illegal entry is wrong.
Repostcomments
Yup, that's is exactly true. Right, everyone not descended from a native tribe can "Giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit Oooooouuuuuuuutttttt!"
dietderpsy
Yes it is and as an Irish person I say all the illegal Irish in America should be jailed.
Phaggotboy
Too bad that its only a civil infraction
Birdfarm1
Any illegals as far as that goes. The left side wants this country to function with every man for himself with no rules!
TheNicaraguan
Except Irish are completely different culturally from any of the main countries sending immigrants to the US now.
IFuckingLoveGoldenRetrievers
Why, because of religion? So are the Jews. Culturally so are the Greek, the Russians, The Polish. Every influx in immigration is looked down
Heratickle
NO! Irish wanted to integrate NOT destroy our government & culture as a religious duty. You compare apples & IEDs.
IFuckingLoveGoldenRetrievers
On then culturally enriches that place over decades. I for one welcome middle eastern refugees and look forward to their banging food
TheNicaraguan
No not religion, culture. Cultures that have respects for individual liberty and human rights are all cultures that I am proud to have. :)
JohnnyTitelips
As a person whose Greek family came here in the 20th century because the Turks were getting genocide happy, Greeks, Russians, Polish, (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
and Jews cannot be responsibly equated with the current influx of Islamic refugees. My people and the others mentioned were not nearly (2/3)
JohnnyTitelips
as susceptible to the violent anti-western culture that exists within many Muslim societies. As the descendant of refugees myself, I (3/4)
JohnnyTitelips
empathize with the plight of legitimate moderates, and they should be treated according to their status as such. However, these are (4/5)
JudgeMentalCat
People in middle eastern countries dislike the West not because of Islam, but because we've spent decades
pronoun
I feel like people miss the point when they try to counter Trump with immigration benefits from over a hundred years ago.
LSAH
Please explain the point?
pronoun
Enforcing legal immigration is the point.
Skywatcher16
*claimed point* if it was the ACTUAL point, he'd realize hes cutting actually helpful funding to that end to pay for his wall that wont work
Skywatcher16
hed also realize that across the board bans on muslim domanent nations, even refugees, is gonna push more to terrorism, not less
pronoun
It's clear people want a solution to legal immigration being enforced, that's the main issue. Trump's policy is a different story.
Heratickle
Deliberately changing the focus to people from friendly country & not ones who have many wanting to destroy the US. Apples & IEDs comparison
Ireadtoomuch
except that it literally is a pillar of what our country is and always will be, 200 years now the immigrants banned could be same as irish
pronoun
It's not though. It's completely different.
Ireadtoomuch
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore"
pronoun
OK, see, you're quoting inspirational maxims and the issue is security and the economy. That's exactly my problem with this post.
Ireadtoomuch
except that todays standards of immigration are stricter than they have been ever, even without the 'muslim ban'
Ireadtoomuch
counter argument is its to keep us safe “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
thankyouforyourserviceforpointsonanythingmillitary
He's a complete tool but this is one of his better moments
aoifard
Agreed. And I also agree with your username. 7up: curer of all common Irish maladies.
squirrelocaust
More like an O'toole...
QuikThinx
I'm English and American. Will happily trade either*. *May comes with Boris Johnson and possibly Nigel Farage.
BillyBaloney976
Fine, let's trade.
StarvingGarbage
It's easy to look good by comparison when you're standing next to the king of fools.
IrishCyko
Best thing he's ever said.. He's still a prick though
alostgeneration
As an American, why is your PM a tool?
annodam08
too many word such little space
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
It's spelled O'tool
Jayyysaaahhhn
He won't leave because if he finishes out the term he'll be the longest serving Fine Gael Taoiseach.
FindusSomKatten
could you repeat the last part there in english please?
RandomAbscessMemories
Fine Gal To Each His Own
CathalOMaoilriain
Fine Gael is a political party in Ireland. Taoiseach means chief. It's what we call our PM.
Samgerine
Made tons of promises he didn't keep, ignores a lot of current problems, keeps promising to leave government and won't.
ionlylooklikeapotato
Man, you can't talk to Americans about politicians like that today.. they'll get all teary eyed and start mumbling about "the good ol' days"
MyFirstTwoChoicesWereTaken
Sounds like every Politician.
ArtOzz
Does anyone like their PM or President or whatever?
alostgeneration
Canada.
Selerox
I'm British, so no, I don't like the uncaring, arrogant, Thatcher-wannabe Tory witch we have in charge.
LiamWong22
On the whole most of NZ didn't mind John Key except for a couple of minor things but don't really know about Bill English now
moricai
Ireland's President is good from what I hear, but their Prime Minister less so.
FragileReality
Scotland seems to like their representation, I think. I've never seen her called a fuckin weapon, at least.
Selerox
Not true. I know a couple of Scottish people that hate the very ground she walks on.
Tunisia
There are definitely heads of state who fall in different places on the scale of likeability/ competence. Trump's just not on the scale.
Goibniu
Good point. Some make it easier to dislike than others though.
ArtOzz
Oh aye. Trump is setting a new standard but the cliche of how everyone hates their leader after theyre put in office isnt actually a joke.
FragileReality
Germany?
ArtOzz
So far I have the impression that she be smart but a bit of an ole battleaxe.
RHFiesling
she learned from Kohl. Just sit there squarely in the middle, only move surruptiously, slow but calculated, machiavellian just human enough
FragileReality
After seeing her visit with the President, I have to say she handled it well.
RandomAbscessMemories
There's a LOT of resentment against her right now for letting in so many refugees.
FragileReality
Resentment from who? ..whom?
codepink2303
And yet she's done the compassionate thing. That's what makes a great leader, they do the hard things even when they're not popular.
FragileReality
RandomAbscessMemories
I agree with you. I'm just saying I noticed a lot of backlash against her for a while.
FindusSomKatten
i am a swed and i like our king or are we just talking elected officials here?
ArtOzz
Elected. Doesnt seem like anyone actually likes their leader even if they voted them in.
FindusSomKatten
our last minister of state was pretty liked even if it was pragmatic sort of like and i here the russians like their putin
FindusSomKatten
hear*
ArtOzz
Everyone likes a rabble rouser in the case of Putin.
SoMenSayThatImIntenseOrImInsane
Canada seems pretty fond of Trudeau, from what I've heard.
BreakTheCircle
Eh we're a mix, it depends on what the issue is. Taxes, though, people don't like the Liberals pretty much unilaterally
SpoileralertIreadthebooks
There's plenty of Trudeau bashing (I like him), but I've listened to many many people who aren't fans
Iwillhaveoneofeverything
Give it a few years.
Iwillhaveoneofeverything
I feel like ppl start to get frustrated with the political leader but that might be part of leader being unable to addresses every problem
HoldMyWater
He broke his Electoral Reform promise, but other than that I'm generally pleased.
Nalianna
Here in Australia, we (I?) dislike Malcolm Turnbull, and would trade him for Trudeau in a heartbeat.
codepink2303
A very fast heart beat ????
margaretolson
I'm Canadian and I liked him initially, but it's fading very fast.
Tellin
Why? Norwegian news outlets seem to adore him and all of his policies.
margaretolson
He went back on his election reform promise which was a huge reason I voted for him.And there's more that's just too much for 140 characters
honestb
I'm Canadian and I'm not really a fan, but he's much better than Harper was, so I try to have some perspective.
blakeatwork
Unless you're from Alberta, but then they believe Preston Manning was a stand up guy
LordKrondor9000
My understanding is that Alberta is the Canadian version of the deep South
honestb
Alberta has a socialist government at the moment, so not exactly.
AdolfMotheringfuckingHitlerwaitnothatstaken
Truly it's all really mixed, many like & dislike him for many reasons, both just and unjust on both sides. Some strongly & some not so much.
BubbaRunski
In case you're wondering, no. Trump didn't understand that he was being insulted.
Tarmaccian
This is the respect he thinks other countries will give us. They'll line up to comment on America's freedoms and ideals.
TigerThong
seems about right. The man can hardly make a coherent sentence.
cabalin
But Biden is the one who’s senile. Amirite? Amirite?!!
shinagami091
Maybe because he was asleep at the time.
MikeyDoesThings
Maybe because it showed the difference between immigration and invasion? you know, the last part about contributing and not freeloading?
Phaggotboy
You realize that they said the same shit about the Irish? Oh wait you're completely ignorant on history
MikeyDoesThings
can tell all that from 140 characters huh? man I wish I was as open-minded and tolerant as you
Phaggotboy
Because is blatantly fucking obvious that I've you knew the shit they said you wouldn't say that about other immigrants and say that that
MikeyDoesThings
Irish weren't like what? like the PM said they were? this is almost a coherent sentence come on, you can do it
Phaggotboy
The Irish weren't like that. Its bullshit
Crumbsly
Maybe because it wasnt an insult against him. Irish immigrants lived and worked like slaves, modern refugees dont do anything beneficial.
gumbyneedsapokey
I'd really love to know your sources for this ridiculous generalization
chicktracy
Its always something, either they take our jobs or they are lazy leeches.
BubbaRunski
It was. It was a direct commentary on Trump's decision to ban Muslims
MittenMagick
Sorry, he never banned Muslims. Try again.
BubbaRunski
Nooo! He just banned people from countries with 90% Muslims. but the non-Muslims from those countries were OK. But it's not about religion.
MittenMagick
Nowhere near all of the countries with 90%+ Muslims. Afghanistan, for example, is 99.8% Muslim. Why weren't they on the ban?
BubbaRunski
Oh, except for those almost 20 times Trump or his representatives said explicitly that it was a muslim ban. But he didn't mean that
MittenMagick
Oh look, more claims about stuff that never happened. Really, don't hate Trump so much that you lose touch with reality.
MittenMagick
Maybe because he has nothing against legal immigrants, which is what the Irish immigrants were.
kst0k3d
My great-great grandfather snuck in illegally through the Canadian border during the potato famine of 1845-52. So you're wrong.
MittenMagick
There were no laws against that until 1921. So you're wrong.
NameUser10
Oh but illegals? Get em all out of here! They're criminals and are certainly responsible for 98% of all rapes in America!
NameUser10
Sorry. "Illegals"
Mavgurian
What?! Illegal immigrants grab women right at the pussy without asking first??
NameUser10
Yes! And they murder too many people. Like, hundreds of millions probably!
leseyoujian9912
Nonsense, since he is trying his best to block legal immigrants as well. Pls pay more attention to reality.
MittenMagick
He is trying to block from certain countries determined by the Obama admin. Nowhere near a significant percentage of legal immigrants.
MittenMagick
So please pay more attention to reality. This anti-Trump furor you're in is so unbecoming.
cabalin
But reality conflicts with my feelings
Kinnolokaaz
How is he trying to block legal immigration? (Legitimately curious)
RightInThePleb
By literally fucking straight up banning a large amount of them from coming in just because of where they come from.
jakslasher
People are dumb
StormbreakerBRB
blocking countries with terrorist training camps. Identified by the Obama administration.
MittenMagick
Yeah? What percentage of legal immigrants come from those countries?
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Of course they came legally via Ellis Island.
alexanderthegreater
Also came before we had such a large welfare state
BillyBaloney976
Not all of them. Quite a few came down through Canada.
weshallseeeee
The video literally said "before lady liberty lifted her torch".
SepiaSkies
Scumbag answer. Ellis island opened in 1892. The irish famine was 1845-1852. Try the fuck again.
ElbowDeepInASnake
I like you
TristanVIII
The sad thing is, once more people wake up, you'll get downvoted for the truth.
OneCrazyWriter
Some of them did...
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Well there were the ones sold.by the English crown as indentured servants, they took a different route.
wewontbefooledagain
Ellis Island was 1900ish. My family and thousands other came in 1860
MRWThisUsernameWasntTaken
Of course imgur would upvote something that is factually incorrect but suits their narrative.
ao4930
Might want to study up on your timeline bud.
CityYeti
though they were still seen as people who would bring nothing but trouble like how mexicans are perceived
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Not many actual protest the legal Mexican Immigrants.
BigVag
A fraction did
AntonioStark
1. Not true. 2. You're comparing modern immigration procedures with procedures from 19th/early 20th century.
WardSharlow
Yep. The criteria for western european immigrants used to be "Don't cough up blood on Ellis Island."
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Exactly, so the whole "But America was built by immigrants!" argument is pretty flawed.
WardSharlow
Please write a 2-5 page essay on how you came to that conclusion and post the text on pastebin.com. I'm not expecting to learn anything;
WardSharlow
I just want some insight into how your brain works. It's baffling.
mollison
Estimated some 50,000 undocumented Irish immigrants at the moment. No idea how many did the same in the past
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Why would they leave the "Paradise" of national healthcare?
mollison
Couldn't tell you, not one myself. Interesting though http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/us/white-irish-undocumented-trnd/index.html
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
People tend not to care about immigrants (legal or not) that learn or know english.
mollison
Makes it seem more like a race issue than a legality, fairness, or taxation issue, in my opinion. You're not wrong though
MylastaccountgotbandbecauseIpostednakedwomen
Because for some of them if they were caught in Ireland they would be imprisoned and executed.
Phaggotboy
Yes because it was fucking impossible as there were no laws
coaltrain1
Which century? Ellis Island didn't open until 1892, there was plenty of Irish in America before then.
CPatricoo
We also didnt have the same "quota system" and obsticles in place for legal immigration. Ellis Island was desprate processing, not plan A.
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SepiaSkies
No they fucking didn't. Ellis island wasn't even open until 40 years after the Irish famine was over.
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CPatricoo
"Don't have smallpox? Well here is you're new name. NEXT." No they fucking didn't.
PartyLikeIts9999
You realize the US allows in more immigrants than any other nation? At some point we have to cut down on immigration.
CPatricoo
Do we? That is a failed statistic. We are the third largest nation. Scaled to nation size we take in half as Great Britain or Germany.
SepiaSkies
Ah yes, the ever defensible "Fuck you, I got mine." Unless you're speaking choctaw or sioux, you're an immigrant too, asshole.
PartyLikeIts9999
Americans shouldn't be forced to sacrifice their quality of life to accommodate immigrants, many who have no intentions of assimilating.
SepiaSkies
So, America is a place for freedom as long as you act like I want you to and worship how I want you to. Got it.
PartyLikeIts9999
I was born in the US, so no I am not an immigrant you dense ass. I assume you mean that at some point my ancestors were immigrants.
SepiaSkies
Yes, the character limit precludes nuance. You are descended of immigrants, and closing the door behind you, because "fuck you I got mine."
TobySomething
Remember how important legal immigrants are as Trump wants to slash H1Bs, refugee programs, etc.
FartyMcDumpstein
Try looking at the health industry. Dual MD/PhDs getting turned away. Because fuck kids with cancer, right?
alostgeneration
Not to mention his order targeted visa holding immigrants
SgtPlasmax
I thought that had something to do with the fact most illegals actually come here legally and overstay the visa or is that sumtin different?
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Only the initial clumsy draft, and it only targeted people from countries that refuse to assist with a background check.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
H1Bs are a serious problem for US tech workers. Employers publish a job at an abysmal salary and then go for an H1B as no one could took it
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
That allows them to offer it with a "raise" far below the going rate for that position in the country.
PartyLikeIts9999
I work for an IT consulting firm and about 50% of our tech employees are here on H1B Visas. They're not better qualified, just cheaper.
TobySomething
I'm a US tech worker. Our company started an office in Canada because they couldn't get h1bs or qualified engineers in the US at 6 figures.
TobySomething
Abuse happens in the IT sector, it's true, but they need to be reformed and expanded not slashed.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
They couldn't get an H1B because the majority of the slots get purchased every year by contracting companies for companies like Google.