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As we all know, last week Ajit Pai and the FCC decided to end Net Neutrality and allow ISPs to do what they want with our internet. I came across this article this morning and thought I would share seeing as Net Neutrality issues don't get enough coverage in the mainstream news.
The long and short of this article is that Schumer is planning on having the Senate vote on a bill that would reinstate N.N. rules. It only needs a majority vote to pass. Regardless of how you feel about Schumer and the Democratic Party, Net Neutrality is not a partisan issue and affects everyone. That's why I am asking you to reach out to your congressman and let them know where you stand on this issue. The fight is not over, there will be hurtles afterward, but you can still make a difference.
Link to article: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/there-will-be-a-senate-vote-to-reinstate-net-neutrality-schumer-says/
Link to Your Senator's Information: https://www.senate.gov/senators/index.htm
indrada3290609
Also, Massachusetts is suing the FCC over it, so that's a thing
VintageWords
Cunt
PagingDrLoggins
If McConnell brings it to the floor ... democrats don't have the control right now
Fooby
More like "there is still a multi-decade of ping-pong awaiting us."
Dashiznit
BLACKED DOT COM SHOULDN'T BE A PARTISAN ISSUE, GIVE ME MY PORN
MrMania
Verizon: I am the senate!
Lulabel73
trdfrgsn
I sure hope that mocking condescending video Ajit made comes back to bite him in the ass. Only takes a bit of savvy to see right through it.
ShadowScorch
GuestChrist
Hope it happens. BTW there aren't any Democrats that I'm worried about that might vote against it. Not a one.
TooMuchCake
"Hey, you know how we could get more money from eliminating net neutrality? If we get to vote for it too." -Senate Probably.
Mewmus
I don't like 90% of what Schumer does, but I agree with him completely on this.
cptcr
Well the senate is pretty simple after all
neil137
It's only a partisan issue because republicans like money
Bananasandwich03
Good. Maybe Senators will actually fear the 80%+ of the population that calls them and files a complaint.
Jagippi
Hahahahha :D that would be the first
xxbiohazrdxx
Oh sweetie
thepieisimplicit
Even if the vote fails, the point is that it will used as a stain on them during the 2018 campaign. Democrats are making a calculated move.
Arbitrarynamehere
Democrats were on board.
REAGANSMASH84
LawmanLata
We either get our regulations back, or we get a list of whos been paid for. Hopefully we take that list into the booth with us.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Governments should be afraid of their people.
BillPostersIsAnInnocentMan
My congress person is a massive raging shit-waffle
KrunkleStan
Still contact him, and if he gives you a bullshit response share it with the world so they can see his true colors.
TheFastpaws
Same. I sometimes hope he gets hit by a bus.
AmericanButProbablyAmerishouldnt
mines Sam Brownback, or was i think.
Counterfit
He's been governor of Kansas for 6 years now...
AmericanButProbablyAmerishouldnt
I know, i was wondering if he was kicked out recently or not.
Gunthex
I don't know what to do. My senators like net neutrality. Fuck it, imma email them thanking them.
Koravel34
Wait until Doug Jones is seated to hold this vote if thats possible.
Cereaza
Wasn't aware a 48 vote minority could force a vote on anything....
TwoYoots
They got the quotes misplaced. Should read: There will be a Senate "vote"...
CigaretteMan
Every Democrat in Congress was against repealing the NN rules while ~95% of GOP were for it. It's the definition of a partisan issue.
drakewarnock
It's the definition of a non partisan issue that republican politicians have decided to all rally against because money.
EMichelle14
Dems will try but Republicans own. Don't hold your breathe.
TreturousFoot32
What about using the internet for gaming consoles?
Vaanhalen
N N is still governed by anti trust acts. It being governed by the executive is a recent thing. The irony is by repealing the protections...
Vaanhalen
And the decisions that justified it, it takes power away from the executove branch. Which is historically extremely rare for an admin. to do
ImMrLiteral
Michigan here and I already know my congressman is a fucking Asshole who hates net neutrality, so not much I can do.
sariari
Call their office
drakewarnock
Make sure that congressman knows that if they don't vote for net neutrality you don't vote for them.
ImMrLiteral
Both of my senators are dems though so that's good.
BC2k2
That doesn't mean shit.
drakewarnock
It shouldn't mean shit, but the only people opposing net neutrality are republicans.
BC2k2
I don't have the exact survey results, but 3/4 Republican voters say they are for NN.
drakewarnock
I should have said the republican politicians were the only ones opposing net neutrality. Pretty much every American wants it.
REAGANSMASH84
Yeah that's cool and all but GOP has the majority and most likely this will die before a vote is called for.
MothMonsterMan
Isn't it only the majority leader that is allowed to bring a vote to the floor? Schumer can't do shit until 2018
willi828
I would think some good faith could be earned by at least hearing it and voting on it
burgonies
At the earliest
BhawbTheMagnificent
He literally said, in the three whole sentences in the article, that he doesn't need the majority leader.
esmarelda
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
MericanNightmare
Exactly, it sends a message to future voters.
J0hnm13
Try to give the provenly bribable government legislators the ability to legislate something that has been fine on it's own for decades. GG
Heywhatcouldgowrong
Net Neutrality debate and vote brought to you by the same people that are giving rich the biggest tax break ever. Should go well.
BeerFapping
You are an idiot. There was no vote outside of FCC just like the day it was implemented two years ago.
Heywhatcouldgowrong
The article states there WILL be a vote. With vote is usually debate. Both will be done by Congress, they read things as much as you do.
SnickerMyKnickers
If their constituents light them up with NN support they might listen tho. Politicians like to be reelected
grumpydwarf
Schumer is a Democrat, not one that had any hand in the tax bill. This NN vote won't pass, but it will get Rs on record being opposed to it
The701
Yeah, I already feel that trickle-down of cold, cloudy piss.
drakewarnock
To be fair they never said WHAT was going to trickle down.
Rodeodoc
Well, it's pretty tough to give poor people a tax break.
RandyBats
You can still take as much as possible from those who earn & give it to the poor. Why raise people up when there are people to tear down?
johnrocks
But they can be given health insurance (instead of simply dying) and the best way to do that is by taxing multi-billion dollar corporations.
RandyBats
Too bad it's not the multi-billion corporations footing the bill for that *free* healthcare you want.
johnrocks
I only get $50 in HC subsidies, I pay $324/m. But if I have to get HC anyway, and it allows poor people to get treatment, give me the bill.
johnrocks
Also, it's very possible to make HC affordable, but that would require the GOP to try to make it work instead of removing it entirely.
Alsenoth
I hate how Political parties involved, and by extension the Media, have played this as Right vs Left. I'm a right wing Libertarian and...
Alsenoth
... think this is all bullcrap. It has no weight on political affiliation. It's a right, not a privilege.
MediaMuerte
You're not very libertarian if you choose government mandates over private choice. Government has a monopoly on violence. ISP's do not.
drakewarnock
Government doesn't have a monopoly on violence. Source: I punched my brother once.
MediaMuerte
A monopoly on legal violence
drakewarnock
Hockey.
MediaMuerte
Consentual
Alsenoth
Sorry that I don't ONE HUNDRED PERCENT fall in line with my political party. Like a robot. Sheesh.
drakewarnock
How dare you have your own opinions!
SDGuitar
He's not talking about the party, he's talking about your ideology. The best way to remember is that the party has the capital L
Cheomesh
A right-wing libertarian.
Alsenoth
I only clarified since people tend to falsely think Libertarian and Liberal are the same because they sound the same.
Cheomesh
They're rather mistaken.
Alsenoth
To help: https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/bothaxes.gif
Alsenoth
I'm on the bottom right corner in this scale. If that helps.
Cheomesh
Yes, I am familiar with that device.
perfectlyrics
So not a real libertarian. Which is cool, but maybe call yourself by a correct identifier.
Alsenoth
Missing the point. This is one issue. Which is why I mentioned my party. In part, BECAUSE this doesn't fall with my party idealology. Just..
perfectlyrics
Sorry, confusion between ideology and party. 99% of libertarian party members are not libertarians by ideology. They need a new name.
perfectlyrics
You're not a libertarian by ideology is the point. Because if you were, there is no way in hell you would support NN imposed by the govt.
Alsenoth
This is literally the ONE issue that I fall into that mindset. Everything else? Down the middle.
Alsenoth
...because someone is one party doesn't mean there can't be issues that they agree or disagree with that fall out of said party. Thats...
Alsenoth
...absolutely ridiculous to think otherwise.
wingnut98
He knows he has no shot of accomplishing anything but grandstanding for the hometown voters.
VioletMoonRising
Well, the hope is the republicans get scared of losing the next electon with enough of this, that they help.
throughthoughtthough
Im pretty sure that grandstanding is like 90% of what politicians do anymore.
redzombie
if nothing else, the way congressman vote on this bill will let us know who the corporate shills are, so we can more easily vote them out.
pukeachew
I agree, but spoiler alert: they are all corporate shills *sad shrug of confusion*
n0tJesus
2/3don’t get the votes and nothing changes... except voters know who NOT to vote for next time around. IMO, if one takes action its not
n0tJesus
3/3grandstanding. If they only talk about doing something, that is grandstanding. Trying and failing is not as bad as not trying.
Daeyelle
It's the case of trying and knowing with 95% certainty that it will fail
aintgottimeforbs
I could be wrong, but the majority party controls the agenda - Schumer can’t force a debate or vote if Reps don’t want to?
thisnameisntfunny
Usually, but the Congressional Review Act was designed so the minority party could force a vote if a regulation is changed when power shifts
n0tJesus
Thats BS. Best case scenario they get 3 GOP to be decent people and and overturn FCC. For which there IS a shot. Worst case scenario they1/3
wingnut98
They won't even get 100% of their own party. Too much money involved.
n0tJesus
I suppose only time will tell. But whats your alternative?
PianoMan2112
Vote EVERY representative out next year, and replace them all with civilians for a single 2-year term, pass a bill like FMLA for 2-yr leave.
wingnut98
Quit bitching. NN was a bad thing.
GenjiShimadaOfTheShimadaClan
Why or is your comment based on the complete lack of knowledge on the subject.
Bananasandwich03
I'll just go ahead and wait for your inevitable rage fit when you suddenly have to pay more for a service you liked. Enjoy. You deserve it.
emkev
Username checks out.
RandAlThor1
Ajit? Is that you?
n0tJesus
Can i ask why NN is bad? Can i also ask why companies should get full control of the web when taxes paid for most of the infrastructure?
WallpaperProblems
Hi Ajit Pie.
faptasticvoyage
Net Neutrality is a discussion that needs to be had in Congress by elected representatives, not by appointees in the Executive branch.
PaintedSlate
Let's just hope the bill doesn't give tax cuts to their own families, repeal healthcare provisions, and redefine firearms as unborn babies.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
I have an idea. Let's just stop electing fucking twat pieces of hot shit.
teardropivyyearofthetiger
Or keep it neutral and make it not really an issue at all and dismissed entirely as nonsense
Thekingofbeans
Look I know it has "neutrality" in the name but that doesn't make it exempt from partisan politics.
teardropivyyearofthetiger
It should be treated like a utility. Equal access like electricity and water.
Thekingofbeans
Yes, one party wants to do that. The other does not. QED, partisan issue.
teardropivyyearofthetiger
Come to think of it, This is the same party that won’t give electricity to Puerto Rico or water to Flint correct?
DemSumBigAssRidges
They did have it... back in 2015... but Obama was for it which means Reds can't think or have an opinion. They MUST hate it.
MarinShatterhand
Seriously we need to abolish this Republican-Democrat bullshit. Fuck this "us against them" shit.
IamNOTatomato12
When Ted Cruz logs into pornhub and finds out has to pay to see some nice momma fuck, they'll turn around real fucking quick.
LivingDecomposition
The people who backed it won't have to deal with it. That's how bribery works.
ThisGuyHere
As a Republican (more centrist really) I hate that we throw out even discussing things bc either Obama promoted it or a Democrat liked it.
BeerFapping
Oh eat a dick ‘more centrist really’ take your virtue staging and shove it. Seriously who are u trying to impress.
ThisGuyHere
I sincerely don't agree with either side on everything, especially in the extreme. I've seriously never tried to impress anyone with this.
doctorhat
Left's playing identity politics, right is playing football. Here I am, stuck in the middle with y'all
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
It's how American politics works, if one side likes something, you must either hate it or support the opposite of it, no exceptions.
CoBr2
This is how Republicans work. Until Trump Dems base expected them to reach across the aisle. It’s why most bipartisan bills get introduced
CoBr2
by Republicans. Because if Dems introduced, Reps would have to oppose to sate their base, but Dems can support whatever majority likes.
Ijustwannagohomeandeatcalzones
i hate when anybody does that. just because somebody you dont like came up with an idea doesnt mean it has to be a bad idea
BeerFapping
Ex: Majority of Dems supported NCLB while Rs opposed it. Dems and public blame bush because he signed it (co-wrote with Kennedy)
ThisGuyHere
Agreed. Both sides do it and that's why fuck all gets done. We have to gain something that the other side hates or we don't pass it at all
Ijustwannagohomeandeatcalzones
ya its also like the health care bill do i think obama care got everything right? no but lets fix it instead of just getting rid of it1/?
Cheomesh
That party is abandoning you, as it did me.
IJustCantPick1
One party abandoned me, the other despised me. Both let me down. Now I can impartial. Both have good and bad parts. Both are too exclusive
ThisGuyHere
It's really just more of a "this is what's on my voter reg card, but not necessarily aligned with my ideals."
CoBr2
Well I appreciate you keep it and try and bring some sanity back to the party through primaries... it’s been pretty bad last few years
thepieisimplicit
Sadly politicians act this way because its the same sentiment as their base, which is inspired by the media having the most polarizing views
baiin
I'd argue *echoed, not inspired.
ZZhillTopper
Also polar media exists because it sells and it sells largely due to confirmation bias. Demonizing "The Media" like it is some kind of 1/2
ZZhillTopper
Illuminati puppet master has created such distrust in legitimate journalists that they can no longer full fill their function and call 2/3
doctorhat
tbf, when you gerrymander your base, polarized politics is the sentiment that sells.
UncomfortableTruths
This is on the GOP leadership. They did nothing to dissuade Fox news from lying through their teeth to the american public for decades.
SaladNoLettuce
Did you hold this view in 2015?
gitguuud
I didn’t. But that was NN was in jeopardy and the Exec branch needed to do something to keep it from going away. /2
gitguuud
Whatever way keeps it I’m in favor for. I am not ashamed to say so. It SHOULD be the Legislative branch, but the R’s wanted it dead. 2/2
Highlights333
This is a congress issue. Pai is right. This is not within the FCC’s statue. Nothing to do with R’s.
CraigFrackinChrist
Why is this being downvoted lol, don't like to have to face your own hypocritism, huh.
ThisDique
Did you hold their dick or let them stick it in your mouth the first time they tried this?
SaladNoLettuce
Edgy AF.
ThisDique
Just asking the same question you asked in more colorful language. Everything's better in color.
SaladNoLettuce
You're mistaking simplicity for complexity. Hope that doesn't happen often...
faptasticvoyage
Certainly. Perhaps 30 years ago when the internet was just starting out, the Executive branch could manage it. Not anymore.
SaladNoLettuce
I don't think anyone needs to manage it, but I applaud your consistency.
istealthepixelsfromreposts
You are aware of the shit providers did before nn? What are your views on that?
SaladNoLettuce
The market should be free to work that out.
thisismyusernamepleaseloveme
EXCUSE ME SIR, GIVE IS OUR PIXELS BACK
DreadPierateRoberts
And still do though not allowed now they just make an excuse. Hard to prove sometimes
neil137
piss off. when they started infringing more and more the rules were made necessary after repeated offenses
SaladNoLettuce
Narrator: But there weren't more and more offenses.
neil137
They blocked VOIP services, tried to charge extra for FaceTime, throttled google wallet, the list goes on over hundreds of offenses
SaladNoLettuce
So they charged more for the use of their private property? That's perfectly normal.
neil137
You. Are. Wrong.
SpringToMyWinter
What if he did? Opinions can change in nearly 3 years.
SaladNoLettuce
Just asking for reference.
reallynotmikepence
Yes, but opinions only change because they don't like the result.
ChuckWeiss
There's a word for changing your views based on new or previously unknown data, but, due to a recent executive decision, I can't say it.
BeerFapping
Ahhh yes. Because twitter/FB/Imgur never banned anyone3 weeks ago. Suddenly you’re scared of a gov’t no longer in control of interwebs
reallynotmikepence
What unknown data is there in who should decide on net neutrality?
diditfortehlulz
Or, you know, from thoughtfully evaluating issues from different points of view like rational adults.
nuclearboner
At some point I would love to hear them instead of the daily Imgur screed of insults towards Ajit Pai.