CarlCopplepot
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leave your cell phones at home or in the locker
Apr 4, 2023 3:10 PM
CarlCopplepot
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leave your cell phones at home or in the locker
soon
Hoping they hold IG folks videoing themselves to this standard. Unless you have their permission, aim your camera to ensure you’re not videoing or photographing other people.
VenusaurThePokemon
it's a mixed bag. as a power lifter moving weights most people here will never touch filming yourself can be immensely helpful for personal progression and form checks. i honestly believe most people filming are doing so in good faith. doesn't change the fact there are enough jerks ruining it for everyone. i also keep a lifting log on my phone so it's super handy during workouts. between logging sets and music i most definitely will not leave my phone at home or in the locker.
battleofhastings1066
I just had a great idea for a business: and Instagram friendly gym.
considerthesorcerer
I mean that’s where my playlists are… but yeah stop photo shoots at the gym.
ChaosPersonified
This is becoming popular everywhere now. Most of my clients (banks, health care facilities, offices, etc.) have rules like this posted on the front door or near the reception area.
bmax323
Yeah they have these posted around, but I work out at LA fitness, there are still plenty of people with their phones set up recording themselves and I have not once seen it be enforced.
Redshadow09
FINALLY! EVERY GYM SHOULD HAVE THIS! You want to record yourself to "fix your form" do it at home. No more fucking shaming people while they are minding their own business.
MioTaalas
In public places, recording is ok and even encouraged as far as you don't enroach on someone else's rights (right to privacy doesn't exist in public area, but some restrictions do apply). The second you step into non public space, that right is gone. You need permission of EVERYONE in that space to take pictures or to record. Or you're liable...
kaymon
This is why I go at 5am. Everyone else there is just trying to do their workout, same as me. It helps that the gym is always playing copyrighted music *just* loud enough to get picked up by your microphone. The bossman says it's so you can Shazam it, but quietly says the IG hoes can't use whatever they try to record.
Xenarion
I like that tactic. Weaponized DMCA.
Youhavinagiraffe
On the plus side... at least we know of an easy way to cancel membership to this gym now
jerbern1
No you still have to pay. You just can't go in.
Cranbananarama
Fine print: "No capturing images of this sign, either."
monkeyfun
Public spaces and expecation of privacy?
andrewgrr1
No, I'll keep my cell phone with me thanks. Just don't be a fuckin creep.
philmoregraves
Irony of taking a photo of this on a phone. I mean no one else is in the photo AFAIK but still ironic and funny lol
OmegaFudge
Good job, LA fitness!
WrongfullyOffended
Y'all cannot read for shit. It says capturing pictures of others with a cell phone. It didn't say cell phones are prohibited on the gym floor.
keyblader1985
I think the only one who thinks (or wants) that is OP. I specifically said that shouldn't be the case.
MindOverMatt
Twice now I've reported to gym staff of people setting up cameras on tripods and taking photos of themselves in the mirror in the locker room, when there's other people behind them in the background, one guy was using his phone on a tripod and the other was using a professional photo camera with a big lens and everything. My stance is that I do not want to be in your photos so do not take any if I'm in the room.
TotallyNotBrad
“Accidentally“ foot sweep the tripod as you walk by
Xenarion
In freaking locker rooms too, urk. That's not only immoral but also illegal.
JackDunne
So , was this taken by a cell phone?
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
It would be perfect if there was a little addendum "...unless the cops are here. Film the fuck out of them."
Layinginbed
Don't give cops ideas. They'll start serving warrants at the gym so no one can film them
OMGamIImguringCorrectly
Is it really an invasion of privacy or just creepy? Cause I pretty much assume I'm on some camera everywhere I go.
ytseone
You don't consider being filmed everywhere an invasion of privacy?
IStartConversationsAndThenGetBoredWithMyOwnPoint
You may not like it but there is no expectation of privacy in public. That said, this is a private business and can set their policy as they wish. The business can film you if there is sufficient notice (contract, signage) or cameras are in plain view; you can choose not to be filmed by not patronizing the business. Being able to record in public is a first amendment protection. Private business policy is not law but if you are asked to leave and do not you risk a trespass charge.
JT1984
I agree with the statement but I use my cell phone to play music while I'm working out
WrongfullyOffended
You didn't read. It says capturing pictures of others with a cell phone. It didn't say cell phones are prohibited on the gym floor.
JT1984
I was referring to OPs comments, not the sign. Which you would have seen. If you read it.
SirJamesMonster42
Not leaving my phone at home or in the locker @op. I actually use mine to listen to music while I work out.
BentwanJameson
Reading comprehension... It says don't take photos or videos of people, not no phones at all.
realair
The post literally says, "leave your cell phones at home or in the locker". Maybe figure out your own reading comprehension issues before calling out other people.
keyblader1985
OP literally says no phones. That's what's being responded to. Reading comprehension.
BentwanJameson
It doesn't matter what the OP says. They can say they love cramming jellybeans up their ass on Thursday nights while whistling show tunes, and that has just as much impact on the gym's policy.
keyblader1985
Dude, it was a direct conversation between that person and OP. Nobody said anything about affecting the policy. OP said leave your phones elsewhere; they said no.
zafner
How are you supposed to listen to music if your phone is in a locker
WrongfullyOffended
You didn't read. It says capturing pictures of others with a cell phone. It didn't say cell phones are prohibited on the gym floor.
zafner
Sorry, I think I replied to the wrong comment. One person said to keep your phone in your locker. My bad
1966flodur
You can use a vintage Walkman getting those classy 80s vibe
a2s2020
Ear buds and keep the phone in a pocket or bag? I reckon if your phone is away, no-one will bother you about it
StillAKidAtHeart
So there IS another way out of the contract! /s
BrockEffingSamson
Crunch Fitness let me out of my contract and only charged me a single extra annual fee and also an extra monthly fee. What a deal!
Imapseudonym
Assuming they don't have a clause stating if you're terminated by them you're still responsible for paying the remainder of your contract off.
StillAKidAtHeart
This would be funnier if it wasn't so true to form.
callocosplay
There's nothing to pay off? You pay monthly fees to them. It's a huge pita to cancel though. I had to physically go into one of their gyms to get mine canceled years ago. It was either that or mail something in I think and then wait... The freeze option is just as bad too. You have to pay about $10/month to freeze your subscription, and you don't have access to use the gym while it's frozen. Fuck that gym man.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
With LA it's possibly the *only* way.
Rubblebubble
I have such a bad perception of that gym, when i moved a few years back i checked out the local LA fitness and the sales guy was supper aggressive. My wife (then fiancée) and i were getting a membership together and i told the dude i had to go talk with her about signing up, he went on this whole thing about 'you have to ask her permission to do everything?'. HARD no from me lol
callocosplay
I had a membership for years. Tried to cancel it and they said to try pausing it instead. Did that for about a year until I realized I was still paying like $10 a month to not be able to use their facilities... Canceling was a huge pita. Had to physically go in and not let them convince me to keep my membership...
TacticalWeaponsAssaultTeam
If you run a business, DON'T CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR POLICY ENFORCEMENT! Police can not enforce your business's rules. They can only trespass the individual if they refuse to leave after you tell them to.
Xenarion
It's likely more a threat than a protocol.
TacticalWeaponsAssaultTeam
I get that, and I agree with and support what they're trying to do. But calling police over something that's not a crime is a Karen thing to do.
C141Clay
cbale2000
If they're in a two-party consent state, filming others in a private setting without their knowledge/permission may actually be illegal.
TacticalWeaponsAssaultTeam
And... no. Filming in a publicly accessible area is protected by the first amendment. Although this is a private buisness, it is open to the public. In public, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. They can ask you to leave, revoke your membership, but there is no legal recourse except a trespass if they refuse to leave.
RobertTheBruise
A private business that's open to the public can prohibit any photography/filming, but it's still a policy that won't be enforced by the cops. If it's in a membership agreement they could sue you for breach of contract, though the damages are likely to be minimal.
TacticalWeaponsAssaultTeam
No, they wouldn't. They would just terminate the membership with no refund based on the user agreement that more than likely states a requirement to comply with company policy.
cbale2000
It's not exactly "open to the public" though if they require a membership to get in. You would have to make the argument about if the particular space offered a "reasonable expectation of privacy" or not. They got the guys that did undercover filming of Planned Parenthood leaders talking about kickbacks on wiretapping charges even though it was recorded in a public restaurant.
TacticalWeaponsAssaultTeam
I think you're grossly over simplifying "open to the public" Anybody can apply for a gym membership to gain access. It's not really about access control but collecting payment. Also, you're wrong about the planned parenthood as the wiretapping charges were reversed. https://reason.com/volokh/2022/10/21/ninth-circuit-partly-affirms-and-partly-reverses-judgment-for-planned-parenthood-over-secret-recordings/
420supercoolusername69
I see someone in the background! STRAIGHT TO JAIL!
gablestout
voodoobilly
usernamephobia420
Ah, we meet again
420supercoolusername69
majorcovert
No. This person is just trying to get their membership revoked.
donkeymoney
HardDoseOfReality
Precisely! They never go anymore but have been paying for the membership for the last 5 years
PrinceOfWhales
When people stop taking social cues that their behavior is abhorrent, we have to resort to company policy instead. Bring back public shame.
zoeelane201
Ty! If someone's not treating your community the way it should be treated, call em out and show em up.
CuddlyPervert
No one wants to say shit to anyone anymore cause you never know who's a lunitic with a gun these days.
thetinytraveler
When I used to have Great Danes, I had people randomly take photos or videos of me and my dog without my permission. I really, really hated it. And I was a teenager when a lot of that happened.
Itslukus
They already use the public shame against anyone walking past their frame or trying to see if they're done with a piece of equipment.
prettydumb
shame is an effective motivator. unfortunately people used it on others who didnt deserve it and now we're in the wild west
Lampmonster
So you ask someone not to blow vape in your toddlers' faces and you get stabbed to death in front of said kids.
kepattRunner
Wait
LarvaLamp
Dude, you're an embarrassment to the Lamp legacy.
Lampmonster
For pointing out something that happened last week?
geekykeycap
Uhh no probably more for going from public shaming to an extreme edge case that's about more than public shaming. It's not even clear exactly what your argument is, you're just relating a violent story without providing real substance. Do better.
LarvaLamp
Ironically, this policy is to cut down on public shame.
C110PR
No, it's to protect privacy.
LarvaLamp
True, but I would also think it also is to avoid those "lol look at this fat guy at the gym" posts, which shame people publicly.
malicart
This should be the rule pretty much everywhere.
skincancerisfun
So security cameras?
nullbr
I disagree, in public you should have NO expectative of privacy, and if you can see it you should be allowed to record it. In the gym case, its a closed private property, so not in public. But if it has windows that can allow anyone from outside to see (from a public location) then back to the start we go
Jordan7831
Except in public where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. But in a private business totally agree.
TheIceHorse
This. Though I feel conflicted on this in cases such as law enforcement that’s on said private property.
geekykeycap
Yeah see YOU'RE thinking about this carefully. I think we're better off the way things are now in America recording where cameras are and aren't permitted.
JesaraB
Unless law enforcement is purely there to assist in trespassing off the property, as their policy says you are no longer welcome, yeah issue
UserScum
I mean ya, but I also like seeing bad cops on video get what's coming them. Although the second part rarely happens
LastProphecy
My state is two party consent for recording. Cops tried to bust some kids for filming them beating a kid. Courts ruled as a public employee you automatically consent.
ethajn
Cops are an exception to this. Police have the legal ability to arrest, physically restrain, use force (up to and including lethal force), forcibly enter private property, search and seize assets. While on duty and taking official actions there is not a reasonable expectation of privacy - transparency is absolutely necessary for any counterbalance to exist against coercive force.
mas0chist
Gym music is regularly shite, my phone, like most, also works as an mp3 player or has spotify. What do you suggest?
malicart
Why is this even a question, you use it as a music device and leave it in your pocket.
mas0chist
Yes, but what is been said is to leave your phone at home or in your locker.
malicart
I have not seen that in the sign posted or anywhere else.
mas0chist
You didn't read the op post then
Alurkerforcedtologin
That is the rule in private establishments, at least where I live. When you're in public though, there is no right to privacy. Public sidewalks and public streets are free to be filmed without permission, and if you don't like it you can leave the area.
malicart
Which is kinda bullshit, we all have a right not to be filmed without our consent.
Alurkerforcedtologin
No you don't. You literally don't have the right because you're in PUBLIC. That's the literal distinction we're making here. In private, you have more broad rights than in public. At least in my country that's true. Dashcams, traffic cams, news reporters, surveillance cameras, families on vacation, toktokers, etc. are all allowed to record whatever they want in public.
malicart
In some places this is seen as an invasion of privacy, just because the laws in the us are fucking stupid does not make them sensible.
kaneinencanto
Except if the recorder intends to use the footage for commercial purposes. They then have to have a waiver, that's why most news b roll is of people from behind with faces not visible or otherwise obscured, as there's no waivers needed then.
malicart
I like that I got downvoted because I think people deserve not to be filmed without consent.
Lurkas
As if it is always black and white. On or off. There are nuances to the issue with privacy in public ofcourse. But to blatantly state that we do not deserve an ounce of privacy in public sounds lazy to me.
malicart
And I am stating the exact opposite of that. We do deserve privacy from shitheads wandering around with cameras filming us without our consent.
Mrw1cked
That would be because surveillance cameras would be a no go. Dash cams record everybody they pass without consent. Hence the "no reasonable expectation of privacy in public"
malicart
Pretty sure some easy distinctions can be made regarding dash cams and security cameras. I am mostly pointing at assholes who just film random people minding their own business in public.
CarlCopplepot
it is ... in Germany ... by law ... taking pictures of people without their consent is not allowed ... if you publish them then this is a punishable offense resulting in financial penalty or prison up to 1 year ... that's why Google street view is totally crippled in Germany
eggmuffin
I don't know what to say. Guy really likes his umlauts. And I'm just chuffed, getting an opportunity to use the word "umlauts".
feren
Wasn't this sort of legal protection the background behind the lawsuit filed by Techno Viking?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
The legal principle is called 'Recht am eigenen Bild' (meaning 'right to one's own image').
AlexSomething
There's a similar thing in France, basically rights to your image. You need written consent to record/publish pictures of someone with obvious exceptions such as public figures while they work (politicians or celebrities), historical or newsworthy event as well as crowds so long as you're not the focus.
malicart
Seems pretty sensible but doesn't street view blank out all faces anyway?
Rabeandre
But this has led to all houses on entire streets being blurred, or streetview simply not being available even in large cities
malicart
Oh well, I see this as no big loss.
Rabeandre
I concur
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
From the perspective of a truck driver, street view is a godsend, cause a lot of the times the address and the truck entrance don't quite line up. Plus, you can see if the turn is easier from one direction VS another, or if you'll need to take multiple lanes to clear the landscaping, etc. Satellite view does a fair job, but street view is just lightyears ahead. Too bad there isn't a simple middle ground solution atm.
feren
But but but how will self-styled "social media influencers" show off that they're at a gym, talk for 15 minutes about their form, never demonstrate their form, and then complain about people either creeping on them or walking through their frame and ruining the take? /s
jkoudys
They're on a journey, like Jesus. This is their cross.
DiedAndHauntingImgur
It does specifically say “of another person” so they’re probably still good
SirLurkAndSmirkAndSometimesSnark
Tell their simps to pitch in more for a private gym.
Zephirod
tbh, if i had someone like that in the gym, i would walk through his/her frame till he/she leaves. naaah kidding, i would call the staff and have them removed. or at least the camera
TotallyNotBrad
Grab the phone while they’re filming and turn it in to the gym staff
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
They need to go at 2am when there isn't anyone there if they need to feed their narcissism that bad
Rubblebubble
oh man, i used to work at a bar and would go to the gym afterward around 3-4am and it was bliss. no one else at all for my entire workout.
imakethisawkward
Yeah but we might miss out on another rainbow 69 dude getting stomped.
Itslukus
Sauce me fine sir?
Foxsayy
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RAJrios
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snoozer
They can self-styled fuck off
dicot
you have me feeling proud now that I'm a self-styled fuck up
snoozer
It's the only good way to do fuck things up. We could produce our own videos to raise awareness!
dicot
sounds so... branded and fancy! 😆
snoozer
Fuckoffluencer. My new brand. I feel the wave of creativity flowing
dicot
LOL