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NorrinxRadd
I love magic, and this is pretty funny
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
They fucked up so bad on the Monster Hunter set that Capcom pulled out of the deal until WotC agrees to play by the rules.
chiefrunswithscissors
I don't really understand the idea that these things should be researched. Yeah they should've been researched when things were completely one sided and they weren't but now there are rich, powerful women everywhere and female scientists... You don't need men to research things for you.
Grimmrog
love how people throw themselves into hours long waiting queues to even get some of the sets.
svga
"no, a Crisp Pringle"
theskepticinme
My nephew just got into MtG. I’m trying to help him understand that buying the best deck doesn’t mean you’re good
goflyblind
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finalwolf
DropDrop
Reason for your parents divorce
Whitebeardthepirate
@OP hasbro is getitng sued https://thedeepdive.ca/hasbro-executives-face-lawsuit-over-magic-card-overproduction/
CheeseGreaterGood
As a non player, it pissed me off when Final Fantasy showed up in it.
MostlyDarkLink
Funnily, that's one of the most "MtG" feeling universe beyond sets and one of the funnest sets in standard currently.
Lord of the rings had all the hype from the Lord of the ring fans but the set itself was meh imo. Warhammer set was really fun but it didn't feel like traditional magic.
Spider-Man isn't great. TMNT is looking like it will be the same.
This isn't including any of the secret lair stuff that can randomly appear in a commander game.
OrangeFlavours
That's completely stupid though. You're angry that a game you DON'T PLAY has a crossover that has zero effect on you?
CheeseGreaterGood
Yep!
PixelSprite64
https://imgur.com/6GT3MKn.mp4
Istealfromthefrontpage
"It shouldn't be" in that tone was amazing
Smingersdidit
I don't know how a giant corporation can sell out but somehow WotC manage
forelle
With a bad enough manager anything can be sold out
OrangeFlavours
You don't know how? That's pretty much what every giant corporation does, selling out is the first step to profiting.
Staddi
And now they are getting sued by their investors because they print too many cards.
friendsofsandwiches
nickle and diming us, nickle and diming.
JohnBluehill
*nickel
OmnibusLatinName
It's always been an arms race. I played (invested in) one card game like this. The very next edition, I saw the trend and dumped it.
Navrodel
There was a chart showing how many sets they released per year. It used to be 4 well crafted in-universe sets with a complete story and well balanced lineup, with maybe another goof set on top of it for fun.
At this point I think they're fixating so much on Universes Beyond because they've basically stopped investing in their own IP. I don't even think they're putting out any books anymore - and if they're not developing the lore, what are they going to build the sets around?
knotydes
Well maybe if they didn't fuck up their universe by filling it with a bunch of stupid whiny emo demi gods. Maybe people would care.
DianNaoChong
The same nothing they did before, and or probably supported by ai
override367
they put a stop on all any novels set in the forgotten realms because they dont sell that many novels that forget that the nerds like me that buy and read the novels get inspired to run campaigns in their setting and buy all their garbage to go with them
override367
and to be clear its not like letting authors publish novels in their settings costs them money, it just doesnt make as much as they want
Really that's Hasbro/WOTC leadership's whole problme. In the age of capitalism we're in you can't just run a successful business, you have to make All Of The Money or you're Failing.
ProfessorHerpDerp
They've been owned by Hasbro for over 25 years at this point. So not really much of a surprise.
euphoricopportunity
Has it really been that long? Shit. For some reason I thought that was only 15-20 years ago.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
I read somewhere recently that there's a lawsuit against Hasbro/WotC about MTG being overprinted, absolutely ruining the secondhand market and the value of cards. But Hasbro is doing that, and all those weird collabs, because MTG is one of their only certain moneymakers.
ToSisPoS
Magic “saved” D&D cuz Wizards bought out the dying TSR and I hate that.
MitebeCute
Oh wont somebody please think of the scalpers??
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Oh absolutely! Fuck those guys with a rusty spoon. But Hasbro is being the real dick there, because they just keep on catering to those bastards anyway. The whole lawsuit angle is pretty weird, I mean, how can you blame a company for a secondhand market? But I thought it was interesting that it showed how Hasbro NEEDS MTG to keep on selling.
DropDrop
Funny enough, "Hasbro holds the rights to the board game Monopoly, having acquired its publisher, Parker Brothers, in 1991"
cyno01
And all the different versions of Monopoly you see are just bullshit reskins with different names for all the properties and themed chance cards and shit. All the different Risks at least besides unique maps have additional unique mechanics like the Death Star or One Ring and shit.
AisforApple
"Put 4 horse tokens into play, then destroy all creatures" is some weird Eldrazi shit XD
hellsgunslinger
I havent played woth physical cards since the mid 90s but have played online. If you use timeless settings and builds there's some really strange and OP combos/builds you can pull off, i.e. play 2 cards and the opponent mills their entire deck.
UnluckyScarecrow
Oh I got to play something like that back when it was standard legal. Halimar Excavator and Rite of Replication (or anything that can copy a creature token, which surely there are cheaper ways in broader formats). Poor guy never saw it coming.
UnluckyScarecrow
Halimar mills X for every Ally in play, every time any Ally is played. So if 5 Halimars are played at once (Rite), then X = 6 (counting the original), 5 allies were played (5x6=30), but all 6 of them are activating for each of those 5 allies being played (30x6 = 180 cards milled)
friendsofsandwiches
for some people, the goal is to crash Arena.
for others, the goal is to get an infinite combo going, but only do so many triggers that doesn't QUITE crash arena.
Loctavius
I had an infinitely growing deck like that. It was a big deck, but had enough triggers that it would go off quite a bit, often by the fourth or fifth round.
Eiladar
Rack + Black Vise
ps238principal
It's interesting how they're getting pushback from the secondary market. All these crossover card sets are pushing players away who don't want to deal with a jillion new cards that could show up at tournaments, and that's hurting the collectability side. I don't think I've seen this kind of thing before. Perhaps it's because the cards have a function outside of just collecting them?
chaosblade
There's a lot going on here. 1) MtG is Hasbro's most profitable division. That drives a lot of decision making. 2) MtG introduced licensed Universes Beyond sets like Lord of the Rings, Fallout, etc to try to drive new player interest. 3) To drive existing player interest in those they have shifted these to main/standard sets and not side products. 4) But existing players aren't really interested in the licenses, so they end up introducing more power creep. It just ends up being messy all around.
Sensiblyinteresting
Hasbro put the entirety of the cost of licensing the IPs on the players with Beyond sets costing much more than regular sets. I would rather pay 25% less and for the same exact pack of cards that doesn't have spiderman on it.
FPAlpha
Just recently i learned that Hasbro/WOTC are getting sued by shareholders over this alleging they are intentionally overproducing cards which will hurt long term sales.
OrangeFlavours
The lawsuit is absolutely insane lol. They're upset over existing cards losing value as collectors items, it's asinine.
ProfessorHerpDerp
It's a vicious cycle and whatever they come up with next to try to bring in new players/ collectors will just continue it. I remember (man I'm freaking old) when foils first introduced, Modern Masters set(s), mythic rares, the overhaul of the type of packs/decks/collections and all the outrage at the time for each of them. The crossover sets seem to be selling well, so they'll continue despite the backlash (TMNT set comes out early March).
TheJuiceLoosener
They aren't trying to bring in new players. They're trying to bring in more "whales," players with addictive personalities and little to no budget consciousness. They've been actively pushing out players on a budget for most of the game's history.
ihateimgurffs
They don't seem to be selling that well though, initially they would sell out due to speculators trying to get a resell going, but then resell failed and now sets are in stock.
2074red2074
We've only had four examples so far, LotR, Final Fantasy, Spider-Man, and AtlA, and all but Spider-Man have been decently successful. Scalpers saw the HUGE success of Final Fantasy and decided to jump in on the Spider-Man one and got burned bad, so they aren't scalping Magic. Turns out MtG isn't like Pokemon where most of the people buying them just like the cards, it's an actual game that people play and you have to know the game and the community to get a feel for what will sell.
Vebrandsson
But Magic has always pushed new sets with a jillion new cards that showed up at tournaments and did stupid things. See the Storm rule which was so bad the entire index of "how unlikely we are to ever reprint this rule on cards again" is factually a scale from 1 to storm with storm being the least likely.
gman003
They are making about twice as many new cards per year as they used to. The power creep's gotten noticeable, cards that used to be strong are now quickly outclassed so there's less value in holding on in case they fit into a new deck.
And I think "people who like collecting Magic cards for the original settings and story" are just massively uninterested in buying merchandise for TMNT and Marvel and Doctor Who and Assassin's Creed. They'll get fans of those things to buy a set but...
Grimmrog
and given their production reached cap and they cnanot fulfil the demand, it is actually completely unnecessary to make more releases. but somehow they decided to do. at leats theyput a LOT of expensive reprints into the commander decks lowering prices on the trading platforms.
CoachFeratu
Collecting is also harder since there's so many alternate art prints and foil variations. Plus serialized cards. It gets expensive real fast
Vebrandsson
Magic is the big game in the TCG world but I've felt like it's been running on its own momentum of being first and sunk cost fallacy for around 15 years now. I think WotC realized a while back that the momentum will run out eventually as other games drag people away. Right now they're just trying to get as much money as they can from as many sources as they can.
cyno01
I miss Decipher and SWCCG, but even in its heydey it was a distant third behind Magic and Pokemon. Nobody played any of their other TCGs either, they had Star Trek and iirc LotR and Doctor Who for a little while...
BrockEffingSamson
Decipher never had Doctor Who. Star Wars and LOTR both occasionally sold better than Magic and Pokemon (and Yugioh, the other big title). If you're jonesing, Star Wars, Star Trek, and Rings all have fan groups keeping the games going.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
St is still my favorite card game. I still have all my cars even though it's a dead game. Really bums me out, I miss playing it a lot.
Vebrandsson
I miss the AEG run TCG era of legend of the 5 rings. The LCG that FFG turned it into after obtaining the IP just wasn't ever as good and suffered from FFG's infamous terribly inconsistent and often delayed support
friendsofsandwiches
The shit thing is, these mechanics seem more interesting than real ones.
Snooj
Make the game, then. We Have No Magic: The Gathering. Just regular people cards.
Silversalvation
"Okay for my first turn i play one mana. Tap it to summon a squirrel that i spent $200 on. That squirrel summons an elf token. I tap that elf to summon a squirrel that then summons another elf. I repeat this 10000 times and attack. That is good game." - Every magic game ever.
WaffleProfessor2
When some shit like that happened when I was playing at a card shop, that was one of my last times playing. At that point I just gave up, it was not fun and just an expensive hobby for no reason. Sold all my cards and never looked back.
Silversalvation
Yeah i still remember my last game of magic some 15-20 years ago. It was a "Discard your hand. Now discard one card every turn..." it ruined competitive card games for me, forever. I HATE magic. And every card game with deck building revolving around finding some infinite combo that makes it impossible for the other person to engage.
KrampusCopia
Well you should have gotten lucky and drew your infinite combo first.
dohcohv
It really depends on the people you play with. I've built some wacky decks, my favorite probably being a Brion Stoutarm deck, or as I like to call it the YOINK/YEET deck. Chaotic in multiplayer as you can steal one person's card, use it to attack a second person, sacrifice it, then throw it at a third person.
Silversalvation
I doubt even the best people could get me to enjoy magic at this point. It was years and gifts wasted just for my brother and his friends to play their "hamster pigeon turn 0 infinite combo" decks
dohcohv
I avoid those people. We usually play with super cheap cards. The YOINK/YEET deck was built because most of the cards were cheaper than lands. I have a non-zombie reanimate deck where the creatures have a power of 1. Next I'm going to probably build a bear deck.
dohcohv
Or like an artifact/crew deck where the only creatures are Raccoons to crew the vehicles.