WTF, Harvard???

Feb 25, 2017 5:54 AM

doverhavens

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So I made the unfortunate mistake of browsing the Book of Faces, and came upon this delightful video via .Mic

It used a clickbait title: "Are all white people racist? Yes"

As a white male, I decided to check this out.
He actually doesn't call White people racist, but rather indicates that every human has an automatic preference to a race; dependent on culture and social norms.

But then he decided to talk about the Harvard IAT test (Implicit Association Test) and how it can tell you if you are biased toward a certain race.

He made some great points, but the IAT is flawed, and I'll explain why...

For anyone who hasn't taken the IAT, this is why it's a flawed test...

The IAT tries to decided what your "automatic racial preference" is by telling you to click the "E" on the key board when you see a picture of a Caucasian person, and the "I" key when you see a picture of an African American.

After successfully identifying around 10-20 pictures, they then assign the "E" key to be "Good", and the "I" key to be bad. You then have about 10-20 words to categorize based on their positive or negative nature (e.g. Love, rude, disgust, triumph...etc)

One you have completed the task of correctly categorizing the words, they ask you to categorize both the positive/negative words along with the pictures of the humans base on race.

This is where the problem sets in.
They have conditioned you to use your left hand ("E") to be assigned to positive words and "white" humans; and the right hand "I" to be negative words and "black" humans.

The reason that's a problem is because they then, after 15 mins of conditioning you, switch which hand that categorizes the pictures of the humans.
If you hesitate to remember that your hands have switched, they consider that your hesitation toward that race.

The best scenario I can relate this flaw to is the Stroop Test...

I'm sure we've all had a good laugh with our friends trying to correctly say the word while our brains have a panic attack because the hue isn't the same.

This is the Stroop Effect.

The Stroop effect is the finding that naming the colors of color words (e.g. the words 'green', 'red', 'blue', etc.) is easier and quicker if the actual observed colors of the words match the colors that the words denote (e.g. the colors green, red, blue, etc., respectively) than if they do not match.

The IAC works similarly by depending on Speed Processing, but what they don't account for is the natural phenomenon of Selective Attention Theory. Once our brains have "mastered" a function it stops micromanaging (kind of like being on auto-pilot while doing a task you've been doing for long periods of time).

So please, remember that this is a flawed test...and I'm simply astounded that Harvard would be ok with this.

Tl;dr : seriously, read it.
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EDIT: Many people are bringing up the fact that if you re-take the test, the order of the "Good" or "Bad" vary/start differently.
THAT DOES NOT MATTER.
The reason it is flawed is because the outcome of the test is based solely on how quickly you can overcome your conditioned motor reflexes.

Also, this is not my way of trying to "prove I'm not racist." I agree with the guy in the video, we all have a racial biased and I have my own issues; same as everyone else.

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LAST EDIT...
@RaisinZetaJones did his own bit of research and had this to say...

"You might want to mention that the creator [of the IAT] acknowledged the very problem you identified, and noted it takes -----40 trial runs----- over a period of weeks------ to eliminate the ordering artifact. I cited it all for you: http://imgur.com/gallery/eAd11/comment/968206229.

This directly contradicts the claim made on the IAT's own website here: "One very common question is about the order of the parts of the IAT. The answer is yes, the order in which you take the test can influence on your overall results. But, the effect is very small. So if you first pair African American (or Black people) + bad and then pair African American (or Black people) + good, your results might be a just a tiny bit more negative than they would be if you had done the reverse pairing first."
...You might also want to cite the part where in the Mic video the speaker claims that racial bias is learned. Specifically, at 0:45 seconds to 0:48 seconds, he says "But they aren't born with prejudice, but it's something we learn."

In fact, the IAT directly contradicts that statement as well: "The notion that children are born without preferences toward groups and acquire them as a result of being in a prejudiced culture is naïve. Frances Aboud showed that children explicitly express negative attitudes toward outgroups. We showed that 6 yr old, 10 yr old and adult Whites show the same level of automatic preference for their ingroup. What changes over time is the lowering of explicitly expressed preferences, with 6 yr olds reporting the strongest ingroup preference, 10 yr olds more moderate preference, and adults reporting the least of all. See Baron & Banaji, 2006; Dunham, Baron, & Banaji, in press."

In other words, the Mic video does the following:
-Misrepresents the IAT to suit their narrative, treating it as flawless when the creators admit it is deeply flawed, especially in ordering, and requires substantial controls
-Directly contradicts the IAT regarding children/learned experience (IAT claims racial prejudice is in-born and the idea that children are born without it is naive) when it suits their narrative

-Switches between suppressing its conclusions and supporting them dependent on how it fits the narrative
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If you say things like "It often reveals an automatic preference for light-skin relative to dark-skin" before the test, it's going to have a huge effect on the stimulus-response questions. You are putting people in an operating condition where "light - good / dark - bad" is already in their mind before the trial. This is going to, 100%, influence the outcome.

The most glaring problem, then, is the it isn't a blind test. Information is given before hand. That's actually probably it's single greatest methodological flaw.
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(HOW ABOUT A MASSIVE ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THIS BRILLIANT HUMAN BEING!
There was so much more that @RaisinZetaJones pointed out about the IAT, and I welcome all of you to reach out to him and ask. Send a complimentary upvote his way while you're at it!)

OP, out

Damn, you should tell Harvard about this. I'm sure they haven't heard of year things and didn't control for them.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Forward caste vs. Scheduled Caste? Can someone explain?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Funny, the Stroop Test didn't work for me because English is not my fist language.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Stroop kid is afraid to leave the stroop!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He says that we're all racists, but HE'S not actually racist https://youtu.be/oJfbKj1vYsQ?t=135

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I kind of "cheat " for the Stroop effect test. I unfocus my eyes and only see blocks of color

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Harvard is just a super-expensive, high entry level fever swamp now.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

What are you even trying to say?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What are you even trying to say?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What happens if I only press the "i" key? What now science?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You will break the internets

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Look up things on bias and impartiality and its quickly seen that its very hard not to have some kind of bias about pretty much anything.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Racism is more than an issue of society. We all have to fight it if we are to mitigate the negative effects. Including fighting ourselves.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can you post a link to this test OP? I wanna try it out.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So there is a scientific reason I autopilot my way home from work everyday?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wait, the stroop test, am I supposed to find it difficult to say the word or colour ? I could say the word NP, the colour tripped me up 1/

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/ because you instinctively read the word while trying to identify the colour

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You are completely off on this allegation. Go and actually read the debriefing in the test.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

My hypothesis has actually been proven to be right by the creator of the test. See latest edit

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is just evidence of you trying to hide your racism. /sarc

9 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 8

The saddest part is that there comments here saying exactly that. Imgur is weird like that.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lolz

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 5

This is insane, I had this exact talk with my wife a few weeks ago, after coming across the same video. Forging associations in the brain

9 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 3

Prior to administering the testing part is silly, and makes the data it gives incorrect, I am so glad I'm not alone! High five @op !!

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

THINK FOR YOURSELF: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/iatdetails.html Try reading about the test before agreeing with OP.

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 5

Here's a paper authored by the creator of the IAT saying it takes 40 runs to eliminate the ordering effect

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

This is misleading. Trial runs refers to the number of questions in a block, not number of tests. The effect is small (~0.08) for 20 trials.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

"THINK FOR YOURSELF" indeed. Though try reading the IAT creator's own words before agreeing with people like @universalcode.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

The racial associations with E and I change multiple times during the test, and will appear in different order if you take it again.

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 5

That is correct. Sometimes the black and good combo will start out together.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Which has been shown to give the tests major artifacts in consistency, as documented by the creator of the IAT, that can only be

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

statistically eliminated by running 40 practice trials over multiple weeks in advance. Oops. They don't *quite* mention that part.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

This is misleading. Trial runs refers to the number of questions in a block, not number of tests. The effect is small (~0.08) for 20 trials.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

If you read the article it clearly states that multiple runs were done weeks apart to administer tests with a different number of trials.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Ok op has a point, seems like an important part of this was missed though, still good to be skeptical though

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Absolutely! Never stop questioning.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

The Stroop effect is in it self biased/flawed as it is only real below a certain intelligence/ability to focus

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If ones intelligence/ability to focus is sufficient then it is a non effect.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nonsense. The Stroop effect is a measure of interference. People can (and do) read the colored words of color names flawlessly. However, the

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

reaction time -- what is being measured -- drops. The Stroop effect isn't used to measure how many words the person gets wrong, but how much

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

longer it takes to cognitively process a stimulus with an interfering stimulus.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

@op: Links to the video and test, please?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

A lot of people in my country are age-ist as fuck. Apparently people my age can't work hard. This is people my mom's age telling me that.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Multiple problems with the test and your hypothesis. How big is the biased effect really? How much more, in %, racist become you by this. 1/

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The biased effect is massive. The IAT has an internal consistency of around .50 (very weak). It shows a profound effect on results when

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

ordering is changed () to the point it takes 40 trial runs to make the effect statistically negligible.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

And who is affected by how much? Many test are made with the help of psychology students as testers. So they are more trained to make them

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And have they have a smaller bias. While someone knew or less educated will have a bigger bias.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Whatchu trying to hide using the porno mode on safari?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The internet is for porn!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Just read that stroop test flawlessly. Is something wrong with me?

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 4

Yes ;)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're not alone, since the test is used wrong. You need to read the colours while you're conditioned to read the words and ignore colour.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is opposed to someone who can't read the or doesn't understand English. They would find it incredibly easy to name the colours.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

stroop test is actually naming the colors, not reading the text

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yupp. Had zero issues with it. Did it backwards to see if it would stump me and I think it was easier.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Call the president for a medal

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

I'd rather not hear him tell me at least four times, how much better he did it.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

????

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Same. It's easier for me to read the written word than trying to say the hue of the word.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Me too, I am honestly curious as to what that means, and no I am not color blind.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

No, I did it as well.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I did too

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Same here. The real challenge would be if you were instructed to name the colors of each word, not to just read the words, which is easy.1/2

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Can I just squint really hard?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think the test is to say the colours and not the words

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

It is. @OP is mistaken.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I blazed through reading the words, but when naming the colors the words tripped me up. I kept wanting to read.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Me too, BUT, squint while doing this so you can't clearly see the words, and then I can say the colour of the words no problem.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I just took this test and your description is misleading. The African/Good association came up first (prob. random) and it tests both ways.

9 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 10

I'm pretty confident that a study like this from a reputable institution like Harvard is going to control for the thing you're claiming.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 10

In other words: damn, white people will go to great lengths to try to explain why they aren't actually racist.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 14

@OP ?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Regardless of the order, they condition your motor reflexes and then base your outcome on how fast you can switch them. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

That's what's upsetting. I'm not trying to go to great lengths to say I'm not racist. I have my issues, same as everyone else. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

At the end: "The answer is yes, the order in which you take the test can influence on your overall results. But, the effect is very small."

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 7

Riiiiight. The creators of the IAT only had to publish an article in which they demonstrated it took 40 trial runs to eliminate the effect.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Source: -- Sorry, who's misleading? You meant OP, but i think it's you!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Why did you (conveniently?) cut off the x-axis label on that graph? It clearly states that trials are in a single block, not multiple tests.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Trials refers to the number of questions in each block, not the tests the person takes. The effect is ~0.08 for the Black-White test at 20.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Did you actually read the research behind it or did you just look at it and get pissed cause it suggested you have racial biases?

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 5

A good question, and yes I did. I'm more astounded that they base the outcome off how quickly you can overcome a conditioned motor reflex.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Yeah OP you can't possibly be educated on this topic you MUST be a racist /s

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

What, this research: -- The one where it blatantly says the ordering effect is strong artifact that takes 40

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

trial runs to overcome, and is an article written by the creator of the IAT? Or some other "research behind it"? Or did you just look at OPs

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This is misleading. Trial runs refers to the number of questions in a block, not number of tests. The effect is small (~0.08) for 20 trials.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

post and get pissed cause it suggested your arrogance and belief that you control the universe isn't real?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Very astute observation, and well explained. Why does Harvard back it? If you want to understand any system analyze the incentives.

9 years ago | Likes 309 Dislikes 14

I wonder if OP would have made this "astute observation" had the races been reversed. It's a known fact the only racist people are black..

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Sometimes it starts black and good, E and I change as you take and retake the test, but hey, one guy's post is stronger than science amrite?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

The IAT has low consistency and a test-retest factor of .6 -- that's a fucking joke.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If it's similar to my school. There is often political organisations within school that get funding from the school and push their own agend

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 5

I'm sorry to hear that. Be strong. Don't hate. Be respectful. Honor other opinions, but speak your mind unapologetically.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or do like my friends and undermine the first electronic election by submitting 200k fake ballots for Harambe in protest of its existence...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It wasn't all of us.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're a Brit! My best friend lives in London. I can tell by s instead of z. Fantastic! I love you guys. Sorry about the bust of Churchill.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sorry the username is taken @doverhavens

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Maybe it's less about Harvard backing it & more where it was developed.I'm not sure how proud the people of Bristol are of their stool chart

9 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 2

I am not immediately aware of a stool chart, but it sounds like something I might be hesitant to put on a job application under "experience"

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Because the Humanities at modern unis are run by SJWs. These people are the sources for the crazy shit Tumblrettes spout.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

I'm curious what evidence you can share that would support this sentiment?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Read the last page of the debriefing if you take the test. It specifically explains how the ordering is accounted for.

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 4

It's still subject to large amounts of interference and attentional resource attenuation. Don't even get me started on its language-based

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

associations of good and bad particularly favoring right-handed responses due to Wernicke's area being left-hemisphere cortical asymmetry.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Yeah, OP is way off base with this allegation. Just completely wrong, in fact.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 6

But hey, any opportunity for us white people to circlejerk how smart and not racist we are compared to those Harvard elitist liberals.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 11

1/ Also, still bullshit: -- That is page 178 of the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin (31) 2, 2005.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Are you supporting @op or not, I'm confused

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/ What you are looking at is a measured demonstration of the IAT's internal consistency. You'll note it hovers are around .50 -- that, for

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

3/ those who don't know, is politely called "weak" and properly called "a fucking joke". It's an admission that contrary to what these posts

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

4/ by @troubledanthropomorphichorse and @universalcode claim, ordering has a HUGE effect on outcome, as @OP claims. The solution to this was

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Thank You! I honestly don't know, but as you can see they use this formula for a multitude of biased tests.

9 years ago | Likes 78 Dislikes 13

The tests randomly assign the order in an attempt to reduce that bias. It's explained in the debriefing at the end that you didn't read.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Good questions are often more interesting than the answers.

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 3

I recently thought contacting them about this obvious bias, as Ive PhD, but.. social studies are so biased that they'll just think Im biased

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Too much bias for bias? Cowards?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also nice to get a reply that's not "fuck you," so thanks back.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I ran across this a while ago but came across bias in it from a different perspective. My responses were quickest when "black" and "bad" 1/3

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

were on the same key simply due to my brain associating any "b" word with that key (regardless of which key it was on). 2/3

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

They seemed thankful for the feedback I sent them about it.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Seeing as you are replying to comments, have you considered reading the debriefing at the end of the test accounting for order?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have, and it proves my theory that it's flawed. Regardless of which comes first (good or bad) they test you 3 separate times with 1/n

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

3/n, then they switch it up for the fourth test...so of course there is going to be hesitation. They've purposefully created a test that ...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

4/4, forces you to stumble.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/n, E in one hand, and I in the other. That's 3 times you've created neuro paths and start to get comfortable

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

" Regardless of which comes first (good or bad) they test you 3 separate times with"

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I would think that many people would also try to avoid bias when taking the test which could skew it the other way. Maybe? So subjective.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Absolutely! There's no way of avoiding that unless it were a blind test, but even then the subject would figure it out within mins.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

The test sounds like it may have been designed to illicit a prescribed outcome which makes it scientifically, if not politically, useless.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Elicit? Not illegal?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So, given the scientific method, the test does not answer the research query and must be redesigned to gather valid data. Makes sense.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

You're absolutely right. Idk why you were downvoted.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Yeah I took the test then quickly realized what's up... very annoying. The idea is "you hit E when you dislike something so if we show 1/n

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

One might associate with racism 'I don't like that black man' your brain will instinctively hit the 'bad' button. Conclusion: you 2/n

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Everyone has bias. The more someone insists they don't, the worse the situation tends to be in my experience.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

I agree

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

So you don't think it's possible to look at anything from an objective standpoint? What about degrees of bias?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There are def degrees I just meant nobody is walking around completely devoid of bias. Well maybe some very specific kind of sociopath? Idk

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is dangerously close to the logic used by authoritarian regimes and religious cults: [1]

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I work in law enforcement (important context). I'm not so much making a logical argument as identifying an abysmal and toxic lack of [1]

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

self-awareness among too many people. And the people denying they have any bias loudly, even belligerently, are usually the worst examples.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Everyone sins. The more you insist you don't the worse you are." And then THEY decide what's a sin, why it's a sin, and how to fix it. [2]

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Which always, ALWAYS serves the regime or the cult in the end. And fucks over the individuals. [3]

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I haven't read Animal Farm in years, but I swear the pigs apply this same approach to their critics. [4]

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You could easily take the test multiple times to disprove this as the test is in random order. I know I have a preference for whites over 1

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

blacks. Not that I am racist or anything but my default black person is someone who listens to rap and grew up in a poor neighborhood 2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

However, I don't think this test actually discovered that legitimately. Most of my mistakes were based on patterns and not because

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I was associating the two different groups. I took my time and clearly read the word or looked at the picture each time.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

see edit

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

The motor reflex is what they are testing. The test is saying that your natural motor reflexes between race and description will prove 1

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That it is easier for you to go from one race to one description than the same race to opposite description. 2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I realize that, but the way the test is given creates a forced outcome; especially since 75% of the test is conditioning you.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

If that was the case then the second time you took the test you would get a wildly different result based on the order it appeared.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Unless you think they are driving you to a specific outcome. In which case your above argument doesn't work since its random.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

When I did this in my psych class, all I learned was that I was really bad at telling white and black faces apart without color photographs

9 years ago | Likes 127 Dislikes 0

That's why you should judge people by their actions and not at face value.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Are you saying one is more valuable?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*This* is the reason? They should judge by deeds solely because they're incapable of judging by appearance? :)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

noses

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I eventually figured that out.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The PBS one is fun. It really shows that you can't tell someone's race just by looking at them.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

That sounds interesting. Do you have a link please?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You are correct that in many cases different races can look nearly identical, in others it can be incredibly obvious.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I have a Mexican friend who could pass for Chinese. I'm white but could pass for Jewish. Whatever that means.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Link?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bummer that I'd have to install Flash for that ...

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh man sorry :/ maybe you could take it at the library ;)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That test uses painfully small photographs with inconsistent lighting to (probably) intentionally make it nearly impossible.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you click on the pictures it maximizes them

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