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IAmACyberneticOrganismLivingTissueOverEndoskeleton
They started removing their logos from boxes too, to counter the boycott, poptarts boxes dont have the kellog logo anymore on it.
KingofKappas
Let's bankrupt Kellogg bois they can't pay everyone forever!
jokerman77
Fight for your right to a Union.
thefellerwhathadthatusername
Kellogg himself was an anti-masturbation, anti-sex weirdo who invented corn flakes in the hopes of suppressing libidos.
kingrd
"I fought the internet, and the internet won"
StryderX
Rule 1 of this world we live in. Don't piss off the internet. They do not forgive, and they do not forget.
Subsound
Their PR teams are definately pretty noticeable disparaging the workers/jobs, while the company and scabs nobly fight for shareholders
JanieKSmith
measterl
Do other countries have as many dicks, per Capita as the US? 21st century reveal.
adiving
Cultural differences aren't that big.. so err... just about. So far I've met 4 people who think Trump is president still... I am Dutch.
zstorm6
I just saw on another post that the scabs they did hire have been wrecking the place. So this is going pretty great I'd say
SergeantMajorSpoiler
Shit, gotta switch to a store brand, I suppose.
morrisseyroo
Just stop eating cereal, you might as well be eating air for all the good it does you nutrient wise.
Gnoll
Yee, Rim-116 represent!
furzinderdose
ugh... fine... so no Kellogs and no Nestlè... man, not much to choose from now...
Ishtar313
I avoid both brands they make shit food anyways, find you an equivalent that's healthier!
Hyero
Store brands and Aldi are pretty decent and much cheaper.
prufock
Kellogg's is acting like they WANT their factories burned down.
morrisseyroo
I mean, they probably don't care. Everything is most likely so insured they'd just walk away with even more money in the bank.
Redshadow09
Seriously? man FUCK KELLOGS!
softsuit
You are messing with shareholders returns. Union busting is now a thing. Boycott.
RedLemonSlice
Unionize !
Darksnider05
Right to the top with this.
BootsDusty
fartharder
I thought half their product line was already a box of scabs.
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
Oh I’m printing this for stickers at the grocery store
SonderingStrike
Surely so long as you don't cover important information like the ingredients, this would be a minor crime at worst.
ExplainsTheReasoningBehindHowHeVotes
anyone make a list of shit they make yet? upvoted for havin cool stuff
BootsDusty
sweetnaivety
good thing I eat all organic and stuff now, I don't buy from these big companies anymore.. I love cheezitz but havent had in a long time.
TheSecondPiewackit
This made me realize: We need the Scabs Union. Folks who cross the picket line, and then drag their feet, and fail out loud once inside.
GeneralAnubis
Lmao that would be truly amazing. Some serious 300IQ moves. I like it.
TheSecondPiewackit
Do it. Make them realize whoever crosses the line is going to be doing jack shit for scab pricing.
Auxilium
We are now at "White House officially shaming Kellogs"
irvingb01
And we are now at Kellogs officially shrugging because they outrank the Joe Biden.
activeracer28
Just like rich people who huge sums to attorneys to avoid paying taxes. How fucked up.
drhobotron
They can largely write off their legal fees.
OddOod
Nah, they pay moderate amounts to accountants. and small sums to politicians to make favorable tax conditions
johnvilnis
The stupid thing is Kellog’s has lost not just more money than the workers wanted, but their costs are rising and profits dropping.
rbudrick
That's because they can afford to. They know workers cant, so they wait it out.
irvingb01
Only for a while. They're thinking long-term: "We're a machine; we can outlast mere humans." And they're probably right.
johnvilnis
Oh I know it's all about ego now but they have wasted more money on trying to defeat the workers than they would have paid the workers.
Snowdemoman
It sure is weird how they can afford to fight against paying their workers...
irvingb01
They think that what they're doing is more cost-effective and they're proabably right.
jmtpl1973
It is even more weird to think they can win from the internet
irvingb01
They don't have to 'win,' they just have to outlast people's interest/enthusiasm for keeping up the fight day after day after day after...
Royoffinland
Hiring "PR" firm to silence workers voice is not PR, it's damned oppression.
tg2222222
Are they actually hiring a PR firm? Is there any source?
Sechran
Who are these PR firms? They should be outed and face the same kind of backlash Kelloggs themselves is facing.
IStoleALoafOfBread
There are firms that all they do is union busting
OmenJones
That sort of thing isn't what PR firms do. I'm sure they hire someone, but it's not PR.
BeardedViking
Of course it is... PR stands for Public Repression, right?
Nim449
Yeah it is. Welcome to the new century.
evolution4407
I would boycott Kellogg's except that I haven't eaten cereal or pop-tarts in ages. I'll boycott Kellogg's in spirit.
Imalwaysready
Same. I went to their page and looked at all their umbrella brands & was like "no, no, no, not that one, no...I already buy none of these."
textilelover
They have pringles as well, in case that's a snack you buy.
DougDingo
I went and checked but it turns out they already don't make my cereal.
Kennleth
I typically buy pop-tarts from time to time, I’ve since stopped.
chicktracy
You can check kelloggs board of directors and boycott other companies they serve. Like Hp, corning, lowe's, swan fabrics, target, etc.
chicktracy
https://investor.kelloggs.com/board-management/board-of-directors/default.aspx
Johnsky
I am in no way advocating for lynching CEOs... But I'm rather surprised it hasn't started happening yet.
seeleydeborn
off with their heads!
HaloArchitect
I am in no way advocating violence for CEOs or other members of C-suites of any corp, but I'm surprised things haven't gone way beyond that.
LastoftheLillyCreatures
I'm not advocating taking justice in one's own hands, but I'd contribute to the gofundme for the accused
SonderingStrike
While I don't support killing people, there are some obituaries I'd take great pleasure in reading
Kennleth
Not going to lie, I’d be very pleased to read my own obituary. Mostly pleased that whatever half-assed plan I concocted worked.
Johnsky
Taking a year off dead for tax purposes? Amazing idea.
CutChemist
Btw, fuck Nèstle too
ImFunnierThanYallGiveMeCreditFor
Nestle is SO much worse. They have done some real diabolical shit with water
WLAFadeaway
And baby formula
ChocolateChickenWaffle
So basically don't buy anything from the store. Got it.
Sthawwaths
Generic/local brands aren’t bad bro
Feralkyn
Just research your product. Buy local where possible, esp. with meat/produce. Check for fair trade.
afatrollofmyown
Farmers markets, CSAs, and shop the peripheral. Fuck Kelloggs & Nestle.
nickwinters
Any new reasons? Or the usual?
CutChemist
Usual. I’m from Florida, they steal our natural spring water.
Mekami
The usual.
khora
Fùck
GoddessPurpleFrost
All the money they're spending on PR firms, reddit vote farms, and more, could have easily paid their employees. Fuck corporations
highfiveskittens
A PR campaign is a one off cost, pay raises are ongoing and increasing.
TheMostModestMouse
It's very very shitty. But it's MUCH cheaper to do what they are doing. It's one of the reasons they do it.
spudpicker
Yeah, just like Putin using troll farms for anti-vax propaganda is way cheaper than killing U.S. citizens with bombs.
khora
That’s probably far from true. Employees tend to be the biggest expense of a company.
adiving
What does it matter, whether they are the most expensive or the cheapest currently literally makes 0 difference.
khora
If you are saying X can pay for Y it matters how big X is.
adiving
No it doesn't matter whether it was x or y. Either way it is the Z that gets added that matters.
morelikeconsham
People are downvoting you because they think you are anti-union, but that's because they are dumbasses.
sweenish
Yeah, people thinking click farms are expensive are not very educated on the matter.
GoddessPurpleFrost
Oh no, a company making record profits will make slightly less profts. oh NoOoooOOoOoOoo
khora
That’s unrelated to how much it costs to troll reddit.
morelikeconsham
They didn't say it was unaffordable, dumbass. They said giving that many employees a permanent raise was probably more expensive than hiring
morelikeconsham
A dozen guys to downvote reddit posts for a month or two, which is almost certainly true.
SteelyDad
If they give in here, they send the message that Strikes work, and they can't have their other employees hear about that.
Heavenissize17socks
They're going to give in. But they have to fight. This is about anti-masturbation, not breakfast. Think about it.
Redshadow09
than lets hope it works!
cshaw5by5365
Well if they start paying employees better, that's a forever expense. They pay to squash the strike that's a temporary expense.They suck nmw
GoddessPurpleFrost
Oh I know. I just fucking hate corporations because of this bullshit. In the long run, more money for the middle class == more money
SteelyDad
Yep.
charlie2979
Machine always eats itself. Not about long term sustainability/health. Its next quarters profits.
NukedStar
While Kelloggs are to blame for their actions, this is only possible because the US has the worst employment rights in the developed world
wodansring
This
highisophotography
Oooooo- man… I mean, China is trying really hard to be the worst, but we are right on par.
Mondvogel
Maybe you folks should start not voting gop
boomtroy
Agree. The Philippines rarely have unions but our labor laws are pretty much pro-employees.
KleptoKea
No company would ever get away with even 10% of this in normal countries. The American People need to unfuck their shithole country.
Circosys
The USA will implode before we can bring ourselves in line with the rest of the developed world.
AttackoftheRobotMonkeys
The workers should invoke their second amendment rights if they're being oppressed
AttackoftheRobotMonkeys
There was a vote already.
Malikhi
Can't be the worst, right? Right? Someone tell me we're not the worst...
darkestkale
It's alright, they're still number 1 for school shootings
Andied
Maybe they are somewhat de-developed by now?
YoSamiteSam
Stop asking billionaire dicka to do your politicians' jobs. Secure living minimum wage, workers rights, tax the rich and dissolve monopolies
stankginchfurbuger
Don't know if you noticed but political system is fucked into motionlessness. Getting reform passed is nigh impossible
BluebellRhymes
"And so long as men die, liberty will never perish."
stankginchfurbuger
Right but that's not talking about electoral reform, is it?
GCRust
Didn't used to be that way. Then Reagan happened, the fucking donkey.
chrisbgg
There have been buttloads of president’s since Reagan. So there’s that…
whitebbwolf
he didnt happen. he was made, elected and installed.
Raydeeo
Maybe we should just exclude them for the developed world club?
SergeantMajorSpoiler
I have. A long time ago.
AttackoftheRobotMonkeys
Yes.
DoIEvenLyftBro
Sorry, we built thousands of nukes specifically so you cannot do that.
JesaraB
3rd world nation with 1st rate PR... that's all it is.
PimpinKen
We deserve it
Selerox
They've kind of done that already themselves.
Override9636
But we're #1 at being the worst!
whitebbwolf
naw, only in Gun care and Health control. everything else yer mediocre at best. Across the board
Override9636
"Gun care and Health control" hahaah holy shit I'm going to steal that.
whitebbwolf
so did I
TheTrapThroughTime
Sorry but it’d be really hard to exclude the country that has the highest GDP in the world by almost 50%.
RandomnessSlayer
US ranks 13th in PPP (purchasing power parity, like GDP but taking into account relative costs of living), coming in at $68k behind 1st>
RandomnessSlayer
Which puts an average US citizen at less than 50% of 1st's 128k per capita (US: 59k). This data is from 2017. Sauce in the other comment
RandomnessSlayer
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/
TheTrapThroughTime
What a nice list of Tax Haven countries
billstranger
Who is hiding their taxes there, and who is allowing it to happen?...
TheMightyFloofer
u really consider the US anything more than a 3rd world country?
wintercoat
Calling the US a 3rd world country as a pejorative spits in the face of the struggles actual third world countries face.
TheMightyFloofer
like what do they face that USA does not? a dysfunctional government? big part of population ridden with poverty? appaling infrastructure?
Freeeer
I agree with your sentiment, but you should look up what the term "3rd world country" actually means.
WhoScalesTheScale
There isn't really a "third world" classification for developing countries. 1st and 2nd came from fallout after WW2.
TharrickLawson
It hasn't meant that for quite a while
Fyreworx
I like that they're spending all this money to fight it instead of just paying them better...
Willowknowsall
Priorities
IStoleALoafOfBread
cheaper to fight unionizing efforts
giganticroboticpenguin
MechanicalRomance
Spend a lot now to stop them asking more or pay them more wages forever? Profit motive says fight it.
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
Thats bc theres no such thing as sentient being called "Kellogg" it's just ppl w all the decision making power fighting to retain control
JanieKSmith
CuileannDhu
It's absolutely disgusting.
modis
And still, with all the money spent their agencies can’t compete with the collective ire of the masses.
afatrollofmyown
They only have money, we have people.
irvingb01
They don't have to compete, they only have to outlast. :-(
LurkerOfDarkness
They really want to work in that stain on their reputation good, so noone will forget how shitty they are, ever.
RadicalRecluse
corporate cost benefit analysis is fucking insane. you seriously dont want to know
Splosions
"Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life." ~ Hopper "A Bug's Life"
whitebbwolf
they all own more than just Kelloggs. They give in to K- workers it might start a chain reaction to all the other companies. to them its war
Onda6g
It should be for us as well.
whitebbwolf
PooPculture
Yes now you understand unrestrained capitalism. Companies would rather spend more money suppressing higher wages than paying workers more.
mmckee44
When you fight you pay that $ once. When you give in and pay the raises you pay that $ over and over. They know what they are doing.
PoliticalWanderer
1) If you give up the power and control, you can't force people to work in inhumane conditions just so you can report good numbers on your
PoliticalWanderer
2) next quarterly report, and then you can't juice the stock price, and then executive pay and bonuses that are dependent on stock price
PoliticalWanderer
3) might not go up as much! And can't you understand, that's the real tragedy here! Think of the millionaires and billionaires!
ThereAreCrocodiles
Because this money is a one-off, whereas a salary increase for all staff would go on forever, and cost them more every year than this now.
TinyLiehon
Look, if you tip your food delivery person, the service they put forth is just so much better
techley
I understand what you're saying and hate it because it's what happens when you remove the Human from the equation.
tracereading
Yeah how dare the workers demand their fair share instead of shoveling every spare dime into the board's pockets!
DotcoreJetkill
It might cost them the company though
TheVermonster
If you can afford to pay your employees then your company is designed to fail.
JeremyPeevin
God forbid the ceos and top employees take a pay cut first to save the company from that. Kellogg's ceo NEEDS that $11 mil a year.
JeffwiththeNukes
What might paying a hire wage?
ThereAreCrocodiles
I'm sure they're looking at other options. Manufacturing Corn Flakes in Thailand or whatever.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
They are a multi-billion company (I assume), they can afford it.
upsidedownyhead
The cruelty is the point...
Ialwayslookhungover
Its not about whats affordable, its about maintaining the status quo.
ThereAreCrocodiles
Oh, I totally agree, but they'll still try to do everything as cheaply as possible, including what they pay their staff.
HoldingAccount
But the owners would make less money because of it, which is what matters.
Astramancer
It's not about being able to afford it. It's about hoarding.
Johnsky
It's about principle you see; if we let the peasants think they're people, they'll be asking for an average life span next... That wont do.
SkamanSam
Yes. This is literally it. Setting a precedent.
Fyreworx
Well we can't have that. They wouldn't want to lose 0.002% of their overall profits.
nethsmith
Of projected profits
Johnsky
0.002%? That would be madness, MADNESS... might as well just take the caviar straight out of my mouth!
ErwiinMadness
I do say good sir, that would be daylight robbery! Preposterous!
TheUnderLurker
Why, next to go would be the silver spoon...
Johnsky
You want me to use stainless steel utensils?! You disgust me sir!
brickius
I once had a co-worker who had a very specialist role who was leaving - the firm could not find a replacement for her and she offered to
brickius
Work an extra three months to give them time if they would match her wage to the wage of the new job she was going to....
brickius
They refused and instead hired a temp consultant from IBM, by the time they found a replacement he had cost more than her annual salary
gon0
From my experience, this is quite common. The temp consultant can be cancelled quickly, whereas the full time employee could cause others1/2
gon0
to strive for a higer wage or more work-life-balance. I quit and HR took a year to get someone from the same office to replace me.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
Idk where, but I've definitely heard this story before
wormsinmahspice
Remove IBM and it's a pretty generic story that is inherently true about hiring contractors