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The Norwegian customs have recently seized 21 of these sex dolls portrayed as young children.. Apparently they have never seen anything like it before they seized one in october 2016, and since then they have found 21 of them.
The disgust in their faces..
Some argue it could be a positive thing though, as it can let the pedoes get their shit done without having to go after acctual children. Though I get the argument, it just freaks me out man..
Stumpyz
That Devil's Advocate angle:
Slashenaar
Yea.. it's creepy af, but part of a functioning person/society is finding ways to minimize damage (see abstinence states teen preggo rates)
Igotbannedforpoliticalposting
That's definitely a good thing. Hell, I would personally donate one of these things if it keeps kids safe
Veldareth
You can actually get them here (Norway) if you go through a therapist and they deem it necessary or some such. I do think it could help.
imaginedear
That seems civilized
Veldareth
I 100% get the controversy, though.
LordLoke
How is this much different from horse dildos? As long as it stays as just living out a fantasy without harming anyone, i dont see the issue.
hitmeormaybenot
Still disgusting and beastiality- puke!
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
There is concern that acting out these urges, even in a "safe" environment, reinforces them, much the way that if you have a porn addiction
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
it will get worse as long as you continue indulging in porn. I subscribe more to the provide safe outlets school of thought. But the problem
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
is there's no data either way because pedophilia is really difficult to study.
danyey
krapmyself
I like the expression of the officer on the right. She looks like her dog ate her wedding ring and is now diggin through its poo to get it.
gorillaClutch
less creepy than those bratz dolls
saturnscape
Ha! Fucking totally. Those things disgust me.
splooshforArcher
There's a case in the Canadian courts as a pedophile ordered a doll and said it curbs his urges.
Allworknoplay82
Put..put your dick in it.
imaginedear
There are actually 2 types of child molesters, (both on spectrums) Pedophile - sexually attracted to children biological response 1/2
imaginedear
This might help them. Latent - Sick for variety of reasons More about control and comes with a need to escalate. This would that worse.
imaginedear
Latent is the biggest group with the widest spectrum hence the emphasis on 'teen' on porn sites.
jackstrawsbuddy
Still worthy of a bit more attention...just in case. I knew a guy that wanted to assault another. Now I know that he considers this dickery
jackstrawsbuddy
*dangerous
Greenrangerguy
If they ban this then they would have to ban most male sex toys since they arent all exactly life adult size.
TickleMeFlymo
Yeah, you could argue that using dildos is like using a severed penis by the same token.
graygrif
The problem with these dolls is that their purpose is to simulate sex with a young child, could you prove the same with male sex toys
twentyfourcharacterslong
You could argue the look of the toy is under age for sure.
thecheckisinthemail
BedBatmanBeyond
I thought those were CPR dummies until I started reading.
ImperatorSolarus
a girl on my class did a report on these and she called them "child love dolls" most awkward 15 minutes of my life. made a good point tho
HypnoJack
What kind of class was it?
ImperatorSolarus
Theory of knowledge, basically a philosophy class without philosophy
EadEchiC
I better encrypt my hentai when I visit my aunt in Oslo.
DorthLous
Don't come in Canada. Actually classified as child porn "if the judge thinks the character looks young".
Dark0Strike
So if you do, make sure all the characters have at least DD boobs.
DorthLous
Nope. They even argued breast size, profession and in-character age should not be taken into account.
TheLeftPocket
Its unfortunate some people were born attracted to children. We should try to help them instead of demonizing them.
HadMeSomeChickens
I thought we were supposed to allow people to express the secual orientations that they are born with?
fluxbiota
I work with a pedophile. It's really hard to get past what they've done. A constant struggle, really. It fucks with your head.
ImNotGayBut20BucksIs20Bucks
Its fucked up. But if this stops paedos from messing around with actual human kids then im all for it.
distortedlens
Is there any evidence that this can actually help them deal with their impulses?
Nietsallinav
There's not enough for or against alternatives.
merprincesspacifica
What's also sad is there is little help for people who struggle with paedophilia. It's a psychiatric disorder no one wants to talk about.
KarlderMarder
Gunshops are handing out medication against paedophilia
angelsichor
Yeah I see how it's disturbing. It could also promote pedophilic behaviour in theory. But if it so much as kurbs the number of child assault
angelsichor
cases it's definitely a good thing.
jackstrawsbuddy
I'd prefer that the study not include the area where my kids live...just in case...a father has to be vigilant and sometimes preemptive.1/2
jackstrawsbuddy
I had a sick comic book shop owner messaging my 13 year old. I'm not willing to take the risk. Let's do the study in another neighborhood
jackstrawsbuddy
He is from A small suburb in Florida. Atlantis.
SankingDragon
Yeah I don't give a fuck and making them illegal probably only ends up hurting kids. Fuck off and let people do what they want to do alone.
questionableanswers
Biggest issue I see is that it's a thoughtcrime. There's no victim, so who cares if that dude sticks his winky in formed plastic.
xenburnn
freaky... but still literally just a hunk of plastic. The Japanese have been making them for over a decade.
trondz89
According to Norwegian laws, having sex with anything that can resemble a child (including consensual ageplay fetishes) is illegal.
twentyfourcharacterslong
Yeah, Norwegian bro, enough said.
nasreal
Eh. That's kind of retarded.
steam1218
so if you do a schoolgirl fantasy she either has to be held back a couple of years or college girl?
Bacxaber
What about dwarves?
steam1218
what about halflings?
CPatricoo
Everyone here is debating the morality of it forgetting that japan exists
eskamobob1
japan dont give a shit about morals of innanimate objects
steam1218
http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38300000/Rei-and-Asuka-neon-genesis-evangelion-38357520-500-313.jpg 14 year olds in skin tight outfit
eskamobob1
I feel like a lot of anime girls they say are 13 or so but actualy look 20
fullbodylovedoll
yes right, and i think sex doll like this can be help some paedophilia, they are just sex with doll, not a real child.
steelinmyhead
aaaaand you know this how?
eskamobob1
because they have never tried to hide it? Google "loli" at some point. Its an old ass theme for a lot of fucked up shit
SephWalker
Why exactly are they seizing these? What laws are being broken? I get the disgust, I understand why this would freak people out, but
SephWalker
there shouldn't be anything legally wrong with this. Nobody is being harmed, and it helps people with these urges to find a way to
SephWalker
avoid harming real children. As of now, there's basically no way to receive treatment for pedophilia. I would imagine most pedophiles live a
SephWalker
state of perpetual self-hatred. They know the desires they have are wrong, they want to stop having them, but like any sexual fetish, it's
SephWalker
more or less impossible to change on your own. They can't seek treatment, either, because the risk they'd take by telling anyone is way too
SephWalker
high. The chance of having a therapist send them to prison is very high. Shitty situation.
RealShaun
Its because of posts like this and your reactions you display that probably hinders many pedos from getting help bcs you shame them.
Rosie2003
Pedophiles SHOULD be ashamed. They want to rape children.
Icujle
It's a mental illness. Unless they've actually committed a crime, thia attitude only makes things worse.
Abusabus
Man....everything is shaming these days
Infin81ne
Oh no, let's not shame the pedos!! GTFOH
SugarSmack
That's not true. You don't seek help when people tell you its all right and acceptable. You seek help when people tell you its a problem.
twentyfourcharacterslong
Before or after your rape a child?
DespiseEveryone
Painkiller addiction, treatment for depression and burnout shows you are completely wrong. If people feel to ashamed of a problem
DespiseEveryone
they seek to hide it rather then seek help.
DespiseEveryone
There is a difference between acceptance and a witch hunt. It is why it is considered so wrong to not talk about things like depression.
jackstrawsbuddy
I will shame a pedophile all fucking day.
craychel
Awwwww I wasn't thinking of the pedophiles feelings. They can get fucked, I'll never react well to those disgusting pieces of shit.
Crowlands
Paedophile isn't synonymous with child molester. Paedophiles cannot help what they think and feel. Child molesters belong in a wood chipper.
personalspaceinvaderspiff
This needs to be common knowledge. More pedophiles would seek help if they weren't automatically labeled rapists or molesters.
HolyEris
America used to feel the same way about blacks and homosexuals. Food for thought.
craychel
Don't ever compare blacks and homosexuals to pedophiles again you ignorant turd
HypnoJack
You completely missed his/her point...
SugarSmack
This is a kind of mental illness essentially, not a race and not a desire they can ever fulfill without harm. They need help not acceptance
HolyEris
Can't have one without the other. Accept they have an issue and help. Or don't accept they have a mental health issue and nothing changes.
craychel
Damn we got a lot of child-fucker sympathizers on imgur tonight
jackstrawsbuddy
Agreed! Wtf?! Pedo is a pedo
bethesdaCEO
I think its more so people are hoping that pedophiles can get help or find a way to curb their actions before children get involved.
craychel
Yeah, they need help, not hope or acceptance.
jackstrawsbuddy
NAMBLA is well represented tonight. Pederasty can fucking get fucked. What the fuck is wrong with you people?!
craychel
THANK YOU
jackstrawsbuddy
Wtf is up with all of these potential child predators???!!! Jesus Christ! I never knew there were really people that defend pederasty
craychel
Right?!?!? It's disgusting.
RealShaun
Control. They deserve our attention, control, care and empathy to help them NOT raping children. Cursing them will bring you fucking nowhere
ddmmyyyy
Why are they actually getting seized though?
NorwegianCanuck
Because sexuallizing children is illegal
Crowlands
This isn't a child. It has no mind to damage, no flesh to harm. No blood to spill or tears to cry.
UncivilizedEngie
There's a fine line though. They are sexualizing a child doll and not a real, living child. If there is no law expressly saying you (1/2)
UncivilizedEngie
may not own a child sex doll, the border agents here have actually committed a crime. (2/2)
ThisIsntPaperItsSomeKindOfMetal
That was my initial question as well. What lead to authorities even being aware they were entering the country?
AtomIndigo
If it's being shipped internationally customs usually checks packages to make sure there's no illicit items being sent.
ThisIsntPaperItsSomeKindOfMetal
Seems pretty random. I mean, is there some sort of cause to check one over another? And apart from bomb stuff, is it even legal? Questions!!
AtomIndigo
It's supposed to be random, but it's per regulations of whatever country the parcel is being shipped to. And it's completely legal.
AtomIndigo
Just like when you enter another country you provide papers and they ask what you're bringing into the country same thing works for packages
questionableanswers
Some countries prohibit anything that connects children and sex, including fictional work like writing, drawing or puppets like in this post
causality
I'm reminded of that picture of a male baby with photoshopped D-cups.
questionableanswers
I don't know what you mean and I'd prefer to keep it that way. Sounds too weird for me.
causality
It's hilarious.
DevPool
Damn, American Girl Dolls have really changed they're marketing strategy.
mrfloris
That got me crying form laughter. *links to agd collector friend*
TheFirstCurse
Oh, you win
DevPool
Get off my dick. I use Swype and am high.
LadyMidnightToker
Devin? Son?
DevPool
Who dis creepin?
DevPool
I'm spooked. Who dis?
toystory2wasok4
Did somebody say fish
RozzAMcGee
Only if lightly fried
toriscool
Reply to there comments not yours
Promethianfire
THEIR! God damn it.
Iamtheoriginalyashimaru
Excluding the typo this is the best comment here.
HadMeSomeChickens
Excluding the extra space before "here," this is the best response.
xerrex123
Besides the fact there be not an error in yer comment to a comment with an error to a comment with another error this here be the best reply
ViciousOtter
Pedophile have little to no help at all UNTIL it's too late and they do something wrong, they cope as they can, so why not ?
trondz89
For some, using a sex doll will bridge opportunities for pedophiles to attempt molesting children, when the dolls aren't 'fun' anylonger.
doubleormuffin
And for others, it will fulfill the urge enough so that they don't go for the real thing. We can't weigh the two without some stats.
Cruxador
We have stats on pornography from Japan, Denmark, and the Czech Republic, all of whom decriminalized CP and saw decrease in child abuse.
doubleormuffin
Oh, well there you go! Any chance you've got a link to those?
unimaniac
100% this. We make people into monsters even before they do a monstrous act, and then we refuse to help them beca7se we cant empathize
unimaniac
With monsters
Howdoilife
And if we make them into monsters before they do anything that means people are LESS likely to seek help which means more molested kids.
jackstrawsbuddy
It's funny, because nobody knows about the pedo in the woodpile until a child or so has been forever fucked up.
myteenyverse
Pedos are monsters
LegendaryKatman
I'm going to go ahead and fully agree with you on this one... Pedophilia must be fucking horrible for a person with good morals.
flamingflamingo
Where is this belief they have no help? There's a help hotline in my area (rural minnesota) and you can go to therapy for any mental illness
DorthLous
Here in Canada, if they mention it to a health professional, the professional is required BY LAW to break discretion and contact authority.
HolyEris
This. It's a near global thing too. So those who legitimately want help can't get it in a safe, professional environment without fear.
flamingflamingo
So? Isn't it the same for someone who confesses murder? It doesn't mean that pedophile won't still be helped.
swiftshiv
So, are you saying you don't understand the difference between committing a crime and contemplating a crime?
FarkasMacTavish
Urges are not actions.
doubleormuffin
A pedophile is someone ATTRACTED TO kids. Nobody's reported for confessing to a general urge to murder unless there's significant threat
flamingflamingo
And do you think there's no significant threat from a pedo? What if your brother in law admitted attraction to your 8 year old?
ViciousOtter
They are denied psychological help, a help hotline is nice but not enough, if they did nothing wrong, that's the main problem.
flamingflamingo
If you Google for help like 5 sites come up. Where did you hear they're denied psychiatric help?
ViciousOtter
We don't all live in the USA, and I'm pretty sure it's not the same in every states.
flamingflamingo
Unless you live in the second or third world, I'd be shocked to learn physiologists turn their noses up at anyone seeking help.
nasreal
1 Fuck you think is gonna happen if they tell that person they have an urge to molest/rape kids? Best case scenario for them, they end up...
nasreal
2 locked in a mental health institution or something.
flamingflamingo
Cops can't act until wrongdoing has occurred. That self defeating assumption is based on nothing factual.
nasreal
1 Cops may not be able to arrest you, but I'm fairly sure it's not going to be, "Oh, so you're thinking about molesting kids, that's...
jackstrawsbuddy
Pedophile deserves no help if he/she acts on the compulsion. The point an adult touches a child in a sexual way is the day they should die.
vielleicht
not every child molester is a pedophile and vice versa. most pedophiles know their urges are wrong and don't want to act on it.
UncivilizedEngie
Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, according to the APA. Pedophiles can be sexually attracted to children and not act on it.
aznanimality
Okay, agreed, but what if their outlet are these dolls? They aren't touching children, just plastic dolls.
jackstrawsbuddy
Do you have kids?
aznanimality
A 14 month old, yes, what does this have to do with anything.
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jackstrawsbuddy
I really do believe in healthcare and the possibility of rehab. That being said, I wouldn't pick a babysitter that defends or is pedophilic
jackstrawsbuddy
Help them in a place far away from children
ELpolloNewman
Better that than the real thing, no?
trondz89
Not necessarily. For some, using a doll will eventually be too boring, giving them the courage to go after actual children.
danyey
ELpolloNewman
But why?
Drosophilamelanobastard
This is like treating heroine addiction with methadone, it can block the worst symptoms, but the root problem isn't treated, though (1
wellifounditfunnysofuckyou
It's a hard one, it does help some however i know many that have been on it for 20+ years. Many use it for another thing to get high on.
Drosophilamelanobastard
it may just be the best we can do (2
UncivilizedEngie
It's easy to draw the analogy but until there are actual studies on the topic of pedophiles and sex dolls you don't know that's true.
doubleormuffin
In a void of evidence in either direction, innocent until proven guilty, I'd say.
Drosophilamelanobastard
True enough, but I don't see solid data on this coming out any time soon.
ihavenocluewhatimtalkingabout
Or ever really. They second somebody starts trying to help pedos they are in favor of it in the public eye
nasreal
1 It is likely that blocking the worst of the symptoms is better than nothing. We have absolutely no reliable data outside of...
nasreal
2 what we get from those who have already offended.