Nov 10, 2016 4:44 PM
thesmokingbarrel
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Good advice
dubone99
I hate when Igno rants.
ggwhorea
10/10 would do this.
YuriThunderBalls
HAHA I want to see you pull this trick in the middle east
dirtydiperface
What about Portland OR 5/26/2017 ?
FlamboyantGaySamurai
5: explode the bus
FizzleBurger
I prefer the "tell the asshole to fuck off" approach.
dalivision
and then......BOOM!!!!........
tardis63
That's exactly the kind of casual Islamophobia that empowers people to be violent toward Muslims
scootermcgruter
Brought to you by the same crowd who thinks people don't deserve safe spaces...imgur is so bipolar
JudgeVegas
Any advice on what to when I see a group of teenagers being rowdy and spitting on the driver?
Marjoskan
Scream like a banshee and propel yourself into them like the fist of God.
schopier
This is my general advice to anyone that comes to me with issues.
SingleNiceFedoraWearingClassyGuycautiondonotfriendzone
In my experience, bullies only ever stopped when I fought back. Just my experience, though.
sammichm
With my payslip this month I had a leaflet about "how to spot radicalism". Good old Slough
BayazTheBenevolent
I might tell the guy harrassing you to fuck off. I will not become your friend though, fuck that you're still a stranger on a bus.
SecretPeter
Username relevance for ZeAngryGerman
housepet
This makes me so happy. I was starting to drown in the increasingly thinly veiled racism around here.
PoopFrosting
"thinly"
"veiled"
promere
Yeah, except this is wrong. Clearly the right thing to do is get between them and EAT SNACKS. SNACKMAN!!!
TravNel
Heard on the news a brown guy was walking around, some whites in a pickup painted in Confederate flag told him to go back home.
Appel99
I'll tell the jackass to stfu.
No, it's important to deescalate the situation. Escalating can put you and others in danger
zelmagustar
I live in south Fl. Where there's a decent amount of muslims. I've never seen someone being publicly harassed.
Popelbremse
I like Igno red.
ManufacturedMannequin
Favorite crayola color. Brings back fond memories of childhood
ThePowerOf42
Americans should keep this, i guess you gonna need it in the coming 4 years
OliviaEyy
Fuck off. I haven't met one person that's said "thank GOD Trump was elected. Now I can stop being nice to women and darkies."
TheAmericanOstrich
Ah you mean like everyone in the KKK and the Neo Nazi party that just had all of their views vindicated? Cool.
OfficialBenderRodriguez
I feel like I would do none of these things, and just start yelling at the guy
electrette
That works for some people. But it's not always safe to do. It can escalate to a more dangerous situation.
SgtThunderfistMD
But if I'm a dude I can't do the last part and put my hand on her shoulder right?
twowaymeter
Well I mean you could always just think about it. You obviously suspect the answer is no.
because that's the important thing to take from this
Actually I was really asking... But yeah, being a dick works too.
RedroverRedrover
Honestly it depends. I'm a woman, I could see how if a guy did an act this kind, essentially rescuing me from humiliation, and sort of /1
put his arm around me protectively and steered me away from the attacker, I wouldn't be bothered at all. /2
IamTonyStark
This does not happen.
weedtittiesandkitties
WRONG!!!
Not to you, probably.
csophieb
Yes. It does. I'm not even going to give sources, all you need to do is google 'islamophobic violence' and you will find it.
and progressives are the ones living in bubbles
CallmeJack02
attacker is male, reference, to red, the colour of the republican party, i wonder who made this and for what agenda
ClumsyArcher
Not gonna lie, I sat here for a few seconds trying to figure out what the hell "Igno Red" meant
DNDCat
My next Dungeons and dragon character name! Taking that.
BenSnow97
Fire red (latin)
beigephillip
I totally did not do the same thing.
JohnnyDeformed
Seems like you are igno rent.
Aymbaut
Or: things that barely happen ever
SteakNazisMustDie
Seen it happen on a bus but to Japanese exchange students.
well now you know what to do if it does, to help fellow americans
viper1483
Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean it doesnt exist -- The Santa Clause
RosieODonnellsface
Shut up he lives in a monoracial suburb if he doesn't see it it doesn't affect him
[deleted]
Ok that's one
azazyel
Not that's 4 and there are a lot more. Shit some people brought a severed pigs head to a Middle Easter convention.
Rasdwatrium
So here it's "That's one" but when a small group of angry people burns a flag it's "all of them" or what?
BillyYumYum2by2
I don't see people condescending Muslims to their face, but they do talk to me (white girl) to mock them. That happens frequently
I used to ignore things that I thought were wrong and "harmless" because I thought we were on the right track. I plan on challenging it now
their minds. But it at least gives me hope that they'll eventually look back on it. ..I hope...
I'm right there with you. It used to be "oh, just ignore them and move on". Now I actively tell them I disagree. It doesn't usually change 1
itmightbeamemorableday
Except she wasn't allowed to watch that movie because of it's eastern influences... d'oh (it's a joke, calm down).
It's a joke, but normalizing casual Islamophobia emboldens people who will harass others. Be considerate, jokes can be harmful too.
Alighieri2000
Fuckin chill man. If every joke about something bad was 'normalizing', humor would just be bland nothingness with nothing challenging at all
Conjure me an explanation for how anything is challenged in that joke
DarkNinja2462
you mean...western
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Okay so how about a white man getting yelled at for holding a confederate flag peacefully, the same standards? Thought so.
WRONG!!!!! A Confederate flag isn't a religious garment. Different standard.
Okay so it is fine to do the same is what you're saying? Just because it isn't religious.
It's a flag strongly associated with hate groups in the united states
And your religious garb is associated with hate groups outside of the United States. Your point is moot. Freedom of religion and freedom of
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!
speech are one in the same. You defend both equally regardless of your personal opinion.
Not the same and limited in both. That's why it's a crime to use your freedom of speech threaten someone and why Rastas cant use cannabis.
LooseyGooseyBrett
I thought imgur was against establishing a safe space
You seriously take issue with defending someone against Islamophobia because of stupid notions about whether people deserve safe spaces?
Doodirt
Yes
well duh, safe spaces are dumb and that's the most important thing ever /s
why?
People bitch all the time about people needing to face the real world and not hide in a safe space, this is no different.
dashers
* any persecution, irrespective of race, religion or gender.
thissuperglueworksjustfine
Thank you
hikarimono
It's okay if you're president though
wanderingian
1-While all of the other responses are true, the comic was originally drawn by a Muslim French citizen and drawings from her own experience
She encourages people to use the tactic to defuse the situation for aggressive hateful behavior against any group.
Sauce:http://www.themarysue.com/bystanders-harassment-guide/
theimgurappsucksballs
Here here
Zreen
* or sexual orientation, political stance, or favorite movies debate
Strongdislikedthat
Unless it's 50 Shades
LordOkamii
Unless it's 50 shades.
DanGessnercomedy
I’ve gone 247 days since the last mention of 50 Shades. And now I have to start over again. Thanks..
Tamaska
Let's not go to far.. some movies are shit any everyone knows it
SandpaperCock
but then there are those movies that are so shit they go full circle into stupid campy awesomeness.
lostconfusedandeasilydistractedheylookapenny
(coughavatar the last airbender moviecough0
(cough it's getting a sequel cough)
ohmygodwhy
QysteinWibe
yeah suuure... what would most likely happen if I, a guy sat next to and touched a muslim woman on the bus..
RickHalcyon
Totally right! Guess there's no way for dudes to help. Definitely can't adapt yourself to a situation, right? Reminds me: (1/2)
(2/2) Can we get infographics for if the Muslim isn't sitting? If I touch a gay, but only to try to help, do I still get AIDS?
PickingAUsernameIsTooMuchCommitment
Why on earth do you think you have to touch them?
Then don't touch her. I don't want you touching me on the bus either.
miltonwadd
Ask her permission first. Speak over the abuser & ask if she's OK. Ask if you can sit w/ her. Or simply position yourself between her &
Shistosomiasis
like potato chip guy in subway
namiasdf
If you feel that you have to touch a person to make them comfortable, you might wanna check yourself.
wrecklaw
I think maybe it's just so they realize you're talking to them instead of someone else maybe? But I understand where you're coming from.
..the jerk. Most people like that will back down simply because their target is no longer isolated.
I once got yelled at for picking up and handing a wallet to a muslim woman in front of me at the cashier line.
PFDR95
By the woman?
PolarHailStorm
You need to go read some roastme posts mate. They give you untold levels of insult-ammunition you can use on fuckwits like that.
Why would you pick up someone's wallet? Had she walked away without it?
She had her hands full, and the wallet fell on the floor behind her
valen00
Because it was on the ground I'm presuming? If I see somebody drop their wallet I'll pick it up and give it to them as well
I assumed it was on the counter. I tend to put mine there when I'm paying. If someone picked it up I'd be pretty pissed.
I don't think I've ever seen anybody do that. (put a wallet on a counter) wallet goes from pocket to hand and back to pocket
dubone99
I hate when Igno rants.
ggwhorea
10/10 would do this.
YuriThunderBalls
HAHA I want to see you pull this trick in the middle east
dirtydiperface
What about Portland OR 5/26/2017 ?
FlamboyantGaySamurai
5: explode the bus
FizzleBurger
I prefer the "tell the asshole to fuck off" approach.
dalivision
and then......BOOM!!!!........
tardis63
That's exactly the kind of casual Islamophobia that empowers people to be violent toward Muslims
scootermcgruter
Brought to you by the same crowd who thinks people don't deserve safe spaces...imgur is so bipolar
JudgeVegas
Any advice on what to when I see a group of teenagers being rowdy and spitting on the driver?
Marjoskan
Scream like a banshee and propel yourself into them like the fist of God.
schopier
This is my general advice to anyone that comes to me with issues.
SingleNiceFedoraWearingClassyGuycautiondonotfriendzone
In my experience, bullies only ever stopped when I fought back. Just my experience, though.
sammichm
With my payslip this month I had a leaflet about "how to spot radicalism". Good old Slough
BayazTheBenevolent
I might tell the guy harrassing you to fuck off. I will not become your friend though, fuck that you're still a stranger on a bus.
SecretPeter
Username relevance for ZeAngryGerman
housepet
This makes me so happy. I was starting to drown in the increasingly thinly veiled racism around here.
PoopFrosting
"thinly"
tardis63
"veiled"
promere
Yeah, except this is wrong. Clearly the right thing to do is get between them and EAT SNACKS. SNACKMAN!!!
TravNel
Heard on the news a brown guy was walking around, some whites in a pickup painted in Confederate flag told him to go back home.
Appel99
I'll tell the jackass to stfu.
tardis63
No, it's important to deescalate the situation. Escalating can put you and others in danger
zelmagustar
I live in south Fl. Where there's a decent amount of muslims. I've never seen someone being publicly harassed.
Popelbremse
I like Igno red.
ManufacturedMannequin
Favorite crayola color. Brings back fond memories of childhood
ThePowerOf42
Americans should keep this, i guess you gonna need it in the coming 4 years
OliviaEyy
Fuck off. I haven't met one person that's said "thank GOD Trump was elected. Now I can stop being nice to women and darkies."
TheAmericanOstrich
Ah you mean like everyone in the KKK and the Neo Nazi party that just had all of their views vindicated? Cool.
OfficialBenderRodriguez
I feel like I would do none of these things, and just start yelling at the guy
electrette
That works for some people. But it's not always safe to do. It can escalate to a more dangerous situation.
SgtThunderfistMD
But if I'm a dude I can't do the last part and put my hand on her shoulder right?
twowaymeter
Well I mean you could always just think about it. You obviously suspect the answer is no.
PoopFrosting
because that's the important thing to take from this
SgtThunderfistMD
Actually I was really asking... But yeah, being a dick works too.
RedroverRedrover
Honestly it depends. I'm a woman, I could see how if a guy did an act this kind, essentially rescuing me from humiliation, and sort of /1
RedroverRedrover
put his arm around me protectively and steered me away from the attacker, I wouldn't be bothered at all. /2
IamTonyStark
This does not happen.
weedtittiesandkitties
WRONG!!!
RedroverRedrover
Not to you, probably.
csophieb
Yes. It does. I'm not even going to give sources, all you need to do is google 'islamophobic violence' and you will find it.
PoopFrosting
and progressives are the ones living in bubbles
CallmeJack02
attacker is male, reference, to red, the colour of the republican party, i wonder who made this and for what agenda
SecretPeter
ClumsyArcher
Not gonna lie, I sat here for a few seconds trying to figure out what the hell "Igno Red" meant
DNDCat
My next Dungeons and dragon character name! Taking that.
BenSnow97
Fire red (latin)
beigephillip
I totally did not do the same thing.
JohnnyDeformed
Seems like you are igno rent.
Aymbaut
Or: things that barely happen ever
SteakNazisMustDie
Seen it happen on a bus but to Japanese exchange students.
PoopFrosting
well now you know what to do if it does, to help fellow americans
weedtittiesandkitties
WRONG!!!
viper1483
Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean it doesnt exist -- The Santa Clause
RosieODonnellsface
Shut up he lives in a monoracial suburb if he doesn't see it it doesn't affect him
[deleted]
[deleted]
Aymbaut
Ok that's one
azazyel
Not that's 4 and there are a lot more. Shit some people brought a severed pigs head to a Middle Easter convention.
Rasdwatrium
So here it's "That's one" but when a small group of angry people burns a flag it's "all of them" or what?
BillyYumYum2by2
I don't see people condescending Muslims to their face, but they do talk to me (white girl) to mock them. That happens frequently
tardis63
I used to ignore things that I thought were wrong and "harmless" because I thought we were on the right track. I plan on challenging it now
BillyYumYum2by2
their minds. But it at least gives me hope that they'll eventually look back on it. ..I hope...
BillyYumYum2by2
I'm right there with you. It used to be "oh, just ignore them and move on". Now I actively tell them I disagree. It doesn't usually change 1
itmightbeamemorableday
Except she wasn't allowed to watch that movie because of it's eastern influences... d'oh (it's a joke, calm down).
tardis63
It's a joke, but normalizing casual Islamophobia emboldens people who will harass others. Be considerate, jokes can be harmful too.
Alighieri2000
Fuckin chill man. If every joke about something bad was 'normalizing', humor would just be bland nothingness with nothing challenging at all
tardis63
Conjure me an explanation for how anything is challenged in that joke
DarkNinja2462
you mean...western
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Okay so how about a white man getting yelled at for holding a confederate flag peacefully, the same standards? Thought so.
weedtittiesandkitties
WRONG!!!!! A Confederate flag isn't a religious garment. Different standard.
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Okay so it is fine to do the same is what you're saying? Just because it isn't religious.
weedtittiesandkitties
It's a flag strongly associated with hate groups in the united states
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
And your religious garb is associated with hate groups outside of the United States. Your point is moot. Freedom of religion and freedom of
weedtittiesandkitties
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
speech are one in the same. You defend both equally regardless of your personal opinion.
weedtittiesandkitties
Not the same and limited in both. That's why it's a crime to use your freedom of speech threaten someone and why Rastas cant use cannabis.
LooseyGooseyBrett
I thought imgur was against establishing a safe space
csophieb
You seriously take issue with defending someone against Islamophobia because of stupid notions about whether people deserve safe spaces?
Doodirt
Yes
PoopFrosting
well duh, safe spaces are dumb and that's the most important thing ever /s
LooseyGooseyBrett
Yes
csophieb
why?
LooseyGooseyBrett
People bitch all the time about people needing to face the real world and not hide in a safe space, this is no different.
dashers
* any persecution, irrespective of race, religion or gender.
thissuperglueworksjustfine
Thank you
hikarimono
It's okay if you're president though
wanderingian
1-While all of the other responses are true, the comic was originally drawn by a Muslim French citizen and drawings from her own experience
wanderingian
She encourages people to use the tactic to defuse the situation for aggressive hateful behavior against any group.
wanderingian
Sauce:http://www.themarysue.com/bystanders-harassment-guide/
theimgurappsucksballs
Here here
Zreen
* or sexual orientation, political stance, or favorite movies debate
Strongdislikedthat
Unless it's 50 Shades
LordOkamii
Unless it's 50 shades.
DanGessnercomedy
I’ve gone 247 days since the last mention of 50 Shades. And now I have to start over again. Thanks..
Tamaska
Let's not go to far.. some movies are shit any everyone knows it
SandpaperCock
but then there are those movies that are so shit they go full circle into stupid campy awesomeness.
lostconfusedandeasilydistractedheylookapenny
(coughavatar the last airbender moviecough0
Zreen
(cough it's getting a sequel cough)
lostconfusedandeasilydistractedheylookapenny
ohmygodwhy
QysteinWibe
yeah suuure... what would most likely happen if I, a guy sat next to and touched a muslim woman on the bus..
RickHalcyon
Totally right! Guess there's no way for dudes to help. Definitely can't adapt yourself to a situation, right? Reminds me: (1/2)
RickHalcyon
(2/2) Can we get infographics for if the Muslim isn't sitting? If I touch a gay, but only to try to help, do I still get AIDS?
PickingAUsernameIsTooMuchCommitment
Why on earth do you think you have to touch them?
twowaymeter
Then don't touch her. I don't want you touching me on the bus either.
miltonwadd
Ask her permission first. Speak over the abuser & ask if she's OK. Ask if you can sit w/ her. Or simply position yourself between her &
Shistosomiasis
like potato chip guy in subway
namiasdf
If you feel that you have to touch a person to make them comfortable, you might wanna check yourself.
wrecklaw
I think maybe it's just so they realize you're talking to them instead of someone else maybe? But I understand where you're coming from.
miltonwadd
..the jerk. Most people like that will back down simply because their target is no longer isolated.
QysteinWibe
I once got yelled at for picking up and handing a wallet to a muslim woman in front of me at the cashier line.
PFDR95
By the woman?
PolarHailStorm
You need to go read some roastme posts mate. They give you untold levels of insult-ammunition you can use on fuckwits like that.
RedroverRedrover
Why would you pick up someone's wallet? Had she walked away without it?
QysteinWibe
She had her hands full, and the wallet fell on the floor behind her
valen00
Because it was on the ground I'm presuming? If I see somebody drop their wallet I'll pick it up and give it to them as well
RedroverRedrover
I assumed it was on the counter. I tend to put mine there when I'm paying. If someone picked it up I'd be pretty pissed.
valen00
I don't think I've ever seen anybody do that. (put a wallet on a counter) wallet goes from pocket to hand and back to pocket