Found Machineguns, cleaned them.

May 12, 2016 12:02 PM

BlueskydragonFX

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During a relic hunting trip in the Dutch city called Nijmegen I stumbled across the remnants of an old airstrip served during World War 2 as a Hawker Typhoon base and in the last year of the war a base for the Gloster Meteor jets. Now it's all just forest, not seeing any landing strips or signs it been an airbase. The only way you could tell it was a former airstrip was that the area around the strip. Old farms/buildings used metal runway plates for fencing off their property. In the forest it self had some runway laying around. Lucky I managed to find an old map on the internet about the runway and taxi lanes so I place it over a Google Maps screenshot. I had my treasure map. So my best guess was to start looking on the taxi lanes since the original runway has been turned into a several soccer fields and 60's/70's housing. Had a buddy of mine with me which is basically my relic hunting partner. So we started to look around with our metal detectors. Found some small stuff like bullet casings, parts of ammo crates and fuse covers for Typhoon rockets. Suddenly my partner came up on me and showed me some handcuffs he found. Looked very old, seen them in war movies, looked ww2 dated. so we were getting near the right spot. My detector made a big beep sound and upon digging we saw the clothing of a .30 cal US browning ammo belt popping up. was in a bad condition and was falling apart in my hands. But 2 meters next to it we had another big beep aprox 50 cm wide and a meter or so long. What could this have been? we started digging and around 30 cm digging it started to show something rusty in all kinds weird shapes. I knew it was a weapon. Maybe a aircraft weapon since it was a airbase and we were digging near one of the taxi lanes. centimeter by centimeter I carefully removed dirt and roots. saw leather getting visible. Then I knew it. This must be a mg42. And yes it was one, in a super condition aswell. but to my surprise there was another gun laying next to it. When I got that one out I saw it was a beautiful preserved mg15. It's inner works still showing shiny blueish metal. Me and my partner were so happy that day. WOW find of a life time.

The next day we went back to the location with great expectations. So we started around the location we found the machine guns and not 5 meters further we had a similar sized beep emitting from the metal detector. Could this be? We started digging and yup we as the same shape showing up as the last time. NO WAY! Yes way! We found another mg42 and again it had an other machine gun laying next to it. It was a Browning but not your standard .30 cal. This was a Browning made to fire .303 British, designed for the British Bomber turrets like the Lancaster/Halifax Bomber or for attack fighters like the Hurricane. And last not least the godly earth yielded a spare MG42 barrel still in it's casing. I just couldn't believe my eyes what we dug up in those 2 days.

Found some spare weapon parts of a 20MM Hispano Suiza cannon which was standard armament for the Hawker Typhoons.

Cleaned them with just water and a soft brush.

Well preserved inner workings of the mg15.

Aim sight of the mg42, note the little eagle near the number 20.

Belt feeding mechanism of the mg42.

Here I had them cleaned more but this time with a metal brush. Looks much cleaner.

Still has it's serial on it.

Had a mg drum laying around and decided to add it to the mg42. Looks nice.

Time made a big root grew through the bipod.

Time to clean it. Like I did with pistols. I used electrolysis to clean the machineguns. When they came out they still had rust inside of the inner parts like screws and such so I grabbed WD40, a rubber hammer and a heating torch and started to loosen up the screws by expanding the metal around the screws with heat and then spraying the screws with WD40. The lose parts went back into the bucket for another round of electrolysis treatment and then came out brand new.

Almost brand new firing mechanism of the mg15.

The result was amazing. With the electrolysis reaction turning some of the rust into carbon filling most of the gaps and giving the weapon and black look. I used WD40 again and burned it into the metal with a heating torch. I can still use everything on this one only since it's missing a big part of the handle of the bolt so cocking it is very hard do.

Still haven't cleaned one part of the inner mechanism but I might keep it that way. Reminds me of in what condition I found it.

considering they were laying in the dirt for 60+ years, they're in amazing condition. Congrats.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

Best I can do is 5 dollars I have a business to run here.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Can you run the serialnumbers to find out the historie of these guns?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As someone who restores guns as a hobby, I am erect. But this may have hurt some historical data, being unearthed by amateurs.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Put... Put your bullets in it...

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You ruined the patina. I can only give you $50. Final offer.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Sorry Archeologists:I support a world where you can go and search for treasure and cool stuff and keep it. You want to catalogue it...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Then go and do it first. This isn't so old it has essential historical value, it's putting magic into a life- here and now.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tip: Submerge in vinegar for 24hrs to remove rust & scale

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Phosphoric acid will clean it up faster than acetic acid

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Omg you are calling these relics?! We still use them in the Danish army xD

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

"I had a mg drum lying about" don't we all??

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damn, the Germans are really good at building shit to last.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

When I was a kid, my dog dug up an unexploded artillery shell from under our garage. The army came and detonated it.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Where was that?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

very cool. however, "it's" = "it is". "its" = possession. how old are we that we don't know this still?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Maybe english isn't OP's first language. It's not a big deal if you're still able to discern what they were trying to convey.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

We teach language for a reason

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

So what are the laws regarding finding weapons or old relics? Finders keepers? What?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Whats next? "Hey guys a found a fucking tank, and took a brush and wd40 to it"

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Well, I do know a couple laying around. Was blocking the road back in ww2, been pushed into the lake next to the road. None seems to care.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

what kind?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shermans. Got blown up on a road in "no mans land" with both sides of the road had lakes so yeah they had to push them from the road.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There's a guy in Harth that will fix that up for you

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The MG42 was called "Hitler Saw" or "Bone Saw"

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 6

A Variant is still in use by the German army today "mg3"

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was called "hitler's buzzsaw"

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Listening to the "buzz saw" is frightening compared to the M60 or even M249

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Haven't seen an OP pull through in a while. It just....feels good.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

@OP, what will you ultimately end up doing with these? In US, legally, they would likely have to be destroyed.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why would they? It's a historical piece.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The ATF made up of souless bureaucrats with no understanding of things like "historical significance" or "sentimental value".

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The ATF can go suck on a fat dick lol. You don't destroy historical objects because it's a gun.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Apparently you do if it is, or ever has been, a machine gun.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That makes no sense though I've seen people live fire old WWII Thompson's and BAR's. Along with old Browning machine guns.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can thank Rep. William J. Hughes (D-N.J.) for that. He wrote the amendment that made it law in 1986.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Figured it was a D in both senses of the word lol.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an archaeology student, please tell me you did an ARCHIS melding for at least the location. So much information is lost by (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 5

true. But is this really relevant? It is not even 100 years old and the location seems to be well known. Serious question.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

From the war, but that does not mean that everything can be dug up by anybody. Especially amateurs can cause valuable data to be lost.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

when posting long replies, post as reply to the previous part of the post. that way it doesn't get lost or out of order

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

In the Netherlands we are now considering the second world war as archaeology as well. Nijmegen is well known as a site (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Upvoting for fellow Dutchie and for creating new hopes and possibilities (since i go hiking near old abandoned airstrips as well)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Being a gun nerd and history nerd I just had 13.2 organs in my brain

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Which organs? How did they get there?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

"THESE BELONG IN A MUSEUM"

10 years ago | Likes 86 Dislikes 7

they get stolen, are destroyed, and also end up sold or in someone who works there's private colleections trust me..i know first hand.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

why? the austrian army still uses the MG42. old habbits....

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

a lot of smaller museums will close down....where do u think all that stuff goes? its better off in a private collection sometimes

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

no they don't. Museum curators are corrupt. over 90% of things donated to museums are stuffed in a backroom and never displayed

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

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10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Ok so that didn't work

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

?noredirect

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

Yes! Haha

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

so do you Dr. Jones.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I turned my phone to look down the sights of the second to last picture...

10 years ago | Likes 91 Dislikes 1

Turn your phone on imgur... gonna have a bad time

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I went back up to the second to last picture to see if it worked...

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

I laughed at this Cuz I did it then saw I wasn't the only one...

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

What was it?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How Could I Forget The Second To Last!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

sweet !!... out of curiosity. How would a find like this fall under gun laws/ registration in your neck of the woods?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

In the US it's a $200 tax stamp that you register for, however the average cost of a full auto firearm is around $14k+ plus visits from ATF

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Really? So if an AR15 or similar costs $2500, there is $14,000 in licences and fees? Curious, please clarify:)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

3 - That date means that there are roughly 182,619 automatic weapons that a regular US citizen may own legally, which means prices are high

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

he means that an the weapons usually cost that much by themselves. I think.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes, seems like that's the answer- thanks!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 - Any full auto firearm made after May 19th, 1986 is illegal to own unless you're a dealer, anything before is fine and legal to own

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

5 - if you have a FFL and SOT you may own and make new automatic weapons so the AR15 would be fair game, also newer guns which are cheaper

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Right, I understand: high price due to limited numbers of pre '86 gear. Is the serial on the bolt/ receiver/ furniture? Because...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you modified your pre 86 M16 with new barrels, stock, and other modern parts does it stay legal?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

4 - a quick search at gunbroker shows a transferable (legal pre-1986) Colt M16A1 at $18k

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Detectorpilots not registering their finds. They also tend to take finds out of context, effectively destroying archaeoligical info (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 6

It's world war 2 items. All the state archeologist I've been talking to have no interests in them. Also the (amateur archeologists) 1/3

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

do report items from time to time, like through a local news paper. Then the state archeologists rush for the location and claim it. 2/3

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

So far I have only seen them digging at places where buildings being build and where amateurs like us have reported a site of interest.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Also we report explosives so they can be disposed off. Couple years ago found 3 500 pounders duds 1 meter underneath a Yoga spot.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I don't say that amateur archaeologists aren't valuable to the cause. Many professional digs are done with the help of amateurs, and (1/3)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Exactly what archaeological information was lost by unearthing extremely common weapons from ~75 years ago? Not exactly Roman artifacts.

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 9

That's the point, we'll never know :/

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

Some of them even dig through bones/old unmarked graves and steal dogtags, which makes it impossible to identify the corpses...

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

you wouldnt know a machine gun wasnt from roman times?

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

@OP if the new regulations for firearm deactivation pass in the EU these will be HIGHLY illegal keep them safe and hidden for your interests

10 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 6

forget EU regs, In the Netherlands they are already extremely illegal

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Are you saying replica, decommissioned or guns that simply can never be fired are illegal in the Netherlands?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i doubt they have been properly deactivated to the point that the gov would allow. Even so they would be taken away as not gotten legallt

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Agree on both counts. In the USA, these wouldn't be considered decommissioned, either.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Depending on your state/county, most police even if searching your house for criminal reasons would just say nice mantle piece

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've been hearing about this so, what are they exactly? Why would guns such as these, guns that are clearly not usable, be illegal?

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

That's how the new regulation defines a firearm as deactivated IIRC

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Barrels must be plugged with welds at both ends and filled with concrete, bolt must be cut in half, all moving parts welded stationary

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

That is really sad.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is that why there was a post on here not too long ago about some guy finding WWII weaponry in literally perfect condition and destroying it?

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Correct, holding on to such materials (without having them properly catalogued and disabled) is a crime in the EU from what I can tell, sad.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

if you replace the firing mechanism or just clean it up very well, and the barrel with a brand new barrel, it would be usable. (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

the firing pin and belt fed ammo system can be cleaned via electrolysis and still work just fine. then just buying ammo. boom usable mg42.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I honestly don't think you'd have a working one at even that point, the fatigue on the receiver after all those years rusting is immense

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My buddy has a finish M39 Mosin Nagant that he bought a few years back, thing was in almost perfect condition, parts barely worn

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

After being on Imgur for awhile I am starting to believe there are guns buried everywhere.

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Trust me. We'll need them for the Statue Wars.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Guns buried everywhere, and old safes behind every wall.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was just thinking the same thing.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I live in Aachen Germany and it's quite common that you find old rusty grenades from Ww2 in gardens or fields

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Borderlands franchise is your game.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I usually bury my guns with the people I... Wait, never mind.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

And slutty women.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We were in Bosnia (02-03) a farmer brought us a MG42 he found in the woods by his house, plus some grenades. Stuff was all over lol

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In 1st grade the playground at my school I found a heavily rusted full blown Rambo knife and a pistol, handed them to the art teacher.

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Then I ran home because Animaniacs was coming on...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

sure ya did

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There might even be one... *reaches behind your ear*

10 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

"Stop it Dad"

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What's wrong son, don't like the.. caliber of my jokes?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I just just think your jokes are kind of hollow andi dont understand the point you are making

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Free to any good scavenger. Only dropped once!

10 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 1

For sale: Child's shoes. Never worn.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

French gun?

10 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

Especially in Europe. Wonder why?

10 years ago | Likes 504 Dislikes 1

Autofellatio?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Gun Flu epidemic of '39

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Maybe it's that long vacation they took

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"We were invited! Punch was served!!! Check with Poland!"

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I VILL HEAR NO MORE INSINUATIONS ABOUT ZE CHERMAN PEOPLE. NOTHZING BAD HAPPENED!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Must have been a hunting trip.

10 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

don't for get the communal showers

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10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

He hasn't been home in a few days...

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Oh yeah, the wars....

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Everyone has 12

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must of fallen from the sky

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

That 20mm Hispano cannon probably did.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Must "have"

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Some guy actually found remains of an old Luger in Germany. It was on the front page yesterday.

10 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

It was a Walther p38 Same OP as well

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I might be wrong, but I think it was a Walther P38, not a Luger P08, the Walther not quite as valuable.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yep, it was a Walther

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I found it in usersub

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

A link will earn someone an updoot!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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For the lazy

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh. That's not a luger. Walther P38?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's in this post's description.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's kind of crazy but this used to be norm for warfare. During the Battle of Verdun, between 40-60 MILLION artillery shells were fired. (1)

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Dan Carlin has a podcast ep about this battle. So sick. www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-53-blueprint-for-armageddon-iv

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I LOVE HIS STUFF AND IRONICALLY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT ON THIS SITE WOW

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(2) That is roughly 63 shells per casualty.

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Jesus... Were stormtroopers manning those guns?

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

We both know with storm troopers there would be no casualties.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Would they be getter off not aiming at their target?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Eh, sometimes shooting is not solely to hit someone

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, you stop an advance and are able to deprive the enemy of sleep.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

@OP This is awesome, depending on your location geographically, you should apply for a historical collector license to keep them legally :)

10 years ago | Likes 235 Dislikes 3

lol he can absolutely keep them legally, the receiver only needs cut in half if its functioning. ATF does not want those guns..

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually keeping ww2 items is totally legal. Only things that aren't are weapons and explosives. You need a license for that.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So these machineguns aren't considered as weapons?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They are and you need a licence.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Uh... You need a license for that? If it's not firing-worth, it's not a weapon, so why?

10 years ago | Likes 96 Dislikes 7

Theyre in europe. They pretty much have the opposite of US gun laws.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Hell, man, some governments you can get into deep shit for having spent brass without a permit, like in Washington DC....

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Some governments are really strict about it. Even stuff that can't work anymore.

10 years ago | Likes 68 Dislikes 0

There should be some documentation that the firearm is actually inoperable. Piece of chamber chopped off, pin welded in the barrel...

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

They count as archeological artefacts and everyone is really strict on those because of the black market being what it is

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Some countries got really strict rules for weapons. Maybe they need to be demilitarized (drilling holes into the barrel etc).

10 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

If it is only drilling holes into the barrel and receiver, it might be intact enough to mount into a really cool display piece. If it

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

needs to involve cutting the piece up that would be really unfortunate as it wouldn't even be fit to be a historical artifact anymore...

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

In US the ATF would require the receiver be torch-cut into 3 pieces (if I remember correctly) doesn't matter that it already doesn't work

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

yep, as an NFA collector I can confirm, and that breaks my heart...

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Online and suddenly there are crude to expert copies everywhere. If few people have licenses, its theoretically easy to see who shared info

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because if you have machining experience you just need measurements off the weapon and you can make a copy. People can share the info 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

If you have equipment and skills, you don't need a prototype to make a weapon.All you need is material.So some machinery is controlled here.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If you want an exact copy of a machine gun, you need specific dimensions of internal parts, you can't just guess and have a working one

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Really depends, where i live even owning a trigger system or a barrel itself is very illegal without the correct permission

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

I see. And we have the idea of "expertise when unsure", so if the thing can not be used to fire live ammo - it's not a gun, thus no problems

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Pretty similar to our rules actually, but our goverment says that if you have a barrel or a trigger you can build the rest to make it fire..

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You can build barrels and triggers pretty easily on standard shop equipment as well but we probably shouldn't let them know that lest they >

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That thing can probably still fire

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Lol, doubt it

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

no, it cannot, all the tiny parts of the firing mechanism are far too rusted to work properly, and the barrel would be insanely pitted (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It may not fire "properly," but it's likely to be able to go "bang." All that requires is a spring and a pin.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

from all the rust, and would not fire properly causing the bullet to get lodged in the barrel, if another is fired behind it....

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

the barrel will split, fragment, or completely explode causing injury. very bad idea to even attempt to fire it.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Most countries have rules about what constitutes a deactivated weapon, and I these wouldn't meet them in many places.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Welded firing mechanisms or filled barrels being methods I've seen before.

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