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DickInAToaster
Strange comparison
Goddamnitmisterrnoodle
Escape2Fantasy
Absolutely right, that's why if you care about BLM, you need to ask your congress person to defund the police.
tegfdd77
I remember the Sandra Bland situation. Bullied into despair. It literally killed the life out of her. Cops. SMDH.
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
I agree with what they are saying, but more information is definitely needed in order to compare
LeftistCoastalElite
I believe Bland committed suicide while in police custody, which was conveniently left out to make it look like racism was the cause.
ogbiggnutz
I mean she was black. /s
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
And hung herself
MandaloreTheJust
datphone777365
Heliogabalus227
mondeca
Heliogabalus227
Hahah that’s what I hoped to avoid
zeacorzeppelin10
She is a definite flight risk but its all right because its all white
defkra6
It’s EXHAUSTING how much WRONG keeps happening.
professorspankem
Down vote this race baiting bullshit
pancreas
this site is full of people who think that 2 wrongs make a right. and they will look for any way to exacerbate the racism around here.
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
I usually would down vote you, but you are absolutely correct. This was an awful example and unrelated to compare
professorspankem
If it wasn’t true, I wouldn’t have said anything. I believe in truth no matter how hard it is to face. Many people try to twist reality
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
This is an example of that honestly
professorspankem
It’s two cherry picked extreme examples and compares them as if they are normalcy. The intent here is dishonest manipulation.
hubvgg
Williams shouldn't have been released. But Bland hung herself in her cell. Even the FBI investigated it.
AmbroseGudmaker
Sorry but not *the* police. Some places they exist to protect rich people and punish the poor. Some places they're even good.
rooik14
No *the* police as we know them were created out of two reasons. Slave Patrols and Fighting against Unions.
AmbroseGudmaker
As you know them maybe. But not everyone. Some were started with nothing but good intentions and still did shit things. Some of them try >
AmbroseGudmaker
not to do shit things. Aren't perfect, but aren't like the average American police force.
rooik14
If you're talking in the context of other country's police? Maybe, can't speak to their history. American police? the barrel isn't just 1/2
rooik14
2/2 rotten, it's the whole fucking tree.
DuxNautarum
Sandra Bland died because she killed herself. The police were assholes, but let's not act like they murdered her.
mat2705
I dont know who is Sandra Bland but let me guess.... she's black?
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Yep. Cop saw an attractive black woman, tailed her & made her nervous until he finally had an excuse to pull her over. Brutally beat her by…
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
the roadside after threatening to "light her up". There is utterly terrifying dashcam footage on YouTube. She was later killed in her cell,…
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
supposedly a suicide. It's sadly obvious what happened to her in between those two events given how attractive she was.
potatotheloaf
I agree racial injustice is a problem, but his statement doesn’t contain all the facts: 1. Bland died in a prison already known for not
potatotheloaf
Monitoring prisoners, especially those at risk for suicide, which Bland was. 2. Riley was released from jail but NOT from her charges,
potatotheloaf
She still faces court, which means she could still face prison time! She’s probably out on bail, and is basically on house arrest.
LeftistCoastalElite
Fuck off, your facts and logic are not welcome on this site.
potatotheloaf
Right, mine specifically
Inkfinger
I'm a pretty insensitive person and even i think this is fucked up
Sombike
It's like the Chewbacca defense ... IT MAKES NO SENCE!!!!
cantspellmanslaughterwithoutlaughter
Same.
EngorgedPhallus
It's simply wrong to any reasonable person.
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SensitiveShiori
ThatBasterd
Ah, so a moron.
TheGodlySka
If you know you are in the wrong, why do you continue to blame victims? Just doesnt make sense to me.
Inkfinger
...because I'm an asshole? The fuck you mean, "why"?
j00niz
This screams insecurity to me. Its okay to have feelings ya know?
cozybonfire
It's so funny to see both self-awareness and an unwillingness to change. Good luck I guess
akittenhasnoname
Article about her :(. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/07/sandra-bland-video-footage-arrest-death-police-custody-latest-news
rezpup
We all know why unless you intentionally ignore why.
jacblake
The age difference.
Ditchencat
Yes. Totally.
SoupForMyFamily
well put
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
Well this actually not a good example from the OP. She hung herself and there was a lot to this case. The officer was fired though
Darkspire
but muh fbi statistics
guiltyalias
Yeah. It wasn't dark enough that day.
grimwyrd
The answer is as plain as black and white.
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
Not in this case
pharmpham
Or she made a deal to sell out her Russian contacts?
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
She hung herself in her cell. The police officer was fired for mishandling the escalation during a traffic stop
Sandyundertones
She "hung" herself in her cell
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
There is no reason to think there was foul play
Sandyundertones
I have no reason to believe the word of cops
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
What's the motivation? She blew smoke in a cops face and he got pissed off, no reason to go kill her 3 days later. She wasn't mentally well
Onlyforthiscomment
Money!!!
GayCanadianJew
Race
NiCk1e
And race
HectoProtecto
Probably both
morelikeconsham
Both. They're like multipliers. Poor? X100 chance of being arrested. Black? X100 chance of being arrested. So a rich black guy and a poor
morelikeconsham
White guy have similar odds. A rich white guy will never go to jail.
Onlyforthiscomment
Even Less sentences for rich White women, they Are reduced by default
GrosseChung
They cycle into each other, perpetuating the class divide struggle
ThisIsTheShortestUsernameICouldFind
On the upper end yes, it keeps predominantly whites at the top. But even poor white trash gets treated better than most POC by police
latinomartino
Intersectionality!
GrosseChung
By police maybe, but overall being poor and living in america sucks for anyone
BaklavaMatatas
Was it the weather
SoupForMyFamily
Birdman2112
MandaloreTheJust
tzahtman
MandaloreTheJust
frankthetankftw
I'm stealing this. Thank you +1
AlphaVirus2g
I don't normally steal memes but this is good.
Masonrig
Cortezdelanoche
MandaloreTheJust
xJedixJuicex
Inconceivable!
gymjownz606
I hate how the truth can be so eloquently displayed yet people still deny the extent and totality of the problem.
AimlessSavant
I'd argue it is a point of ambiguity. A free it's-not-racist card. "George Floyd was CLEARLY on drugs." "That 12 y/o with a realistic
AimlessSavant
looking airsoft pistol was looking for trouble!" These stupid responses.
glenngriffon
and tucker carlson is warning that his audience might be hurt by Biden's war on white supremacists. prolly cuz he is and WS's watch him
jasonmanguy
He straight up said that the Capitol Riot was because the system, “failed them” but called BLM thugs who need to grow up. He’s human shit.
glenngriffon
now that's just not right or fair. Shit has a use in society. It can be put to good use. Tucker ain't even worth burying for fertilizer.
VolcanoHerder
I almost want to downvote you for reminding me that he exists, ick. Fuck him and his audience.
redge76
1 hour long video analysis of what happened. https://open.lbry.com/@jammer2012:a/The-Kyle-Rittenhouse-Incident-(Documentary)
GrandProtectorDark
>thinking libertarian opinions are actually valid
Shinigami4th
I hate the fact that that those people are the eexample of libertarianism
ArdentSlacker
Why? You think there's *good* examples of "as into hurting people as a republican, but weed should be legal."
Shinigami4th
Libertarian is a Wide range of ideals basically saying the government shouldn't have control over things. I.E. abortion, Religion, speech.
SoupForMyFamily
HoSlappa
oh what a surprise, the video is already taken down within an hour of you posting it.
dogwithahumanface
I love when people think they're illuminating an issue by posting an hour long rant from a libertarian.
redge76
As an European, I don't know what a libertarian is. But I've seen so much BS on this event that a 1h vid to make up my own mind worth it.
SumptuousMeat
Holy fucking shit, he's wearing nitrate gloves! SO HE WON'T LEAVE FINGERPRINTS. Never noticed that b4. Fuck this kid, hang him high.
SoupForMyFamily
schocker28
He was providing medical before he shot anyone, hence the gloves.
aggressivelysouthern
lol
SumptuousMeat
Was that before or after he murdered someone and attempted on a second?
BSwann
That was before at least 4 grown ass men tried to attack a 17yo who was running away.
MisleadTruth
iirc he went there as a medic.
SumptuousMeat
With an assault rifle. Uh-huh.
MisleadTruth
Some EMT's do carry. And given the situation he was putting himself in, I don't think bringing a rifle was that egregious. Of a decision.
fly4runner
He’s was 17 and in high school, not an EMT.
RideTheStimutacs
He was a minor. He shouldn't have been there at all, much less had a gun.
beefytrout
Republicans see nothing wrong with this.
tegfdd77
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
Well she actually killed herself though. The officer however did kinda escalate things though, but ultimately she took her own life
sleepinggreenidea
The police exist to protect the rich, and punish the poor, and LE racially profiles blacks as poor.
AimlessSavant
Considering the fact that 1860s democrats wanted to keep the free'dmen down and debt-slaved. It shouldn't suprise you that
AimlessSavant
blacks have been typecast to be poor.
SmellingMistake
Also rich people use to own black people so there is still some residue of treating them like property instead of people.
sleepinggreenidea
Certainly - and in regions where slave patrols were the precursors of police, there's still institutional memory. E.g. LE dog usage in OK.
therealbardman
The police, however, do not get to decide who gets released on bail. That is the judiciary.
sleepinggreenidea
OTOH, the prosecutor typically works hand-in-glove with the police, and they have not-insignificant influence in bail recommendations.
shyasen
What diaphanouszephyr said + police are city employees, they exist to protect the city, city executive staff & city property.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Yup. Police protect property.
sleepinggreenidea
It comes right down to their origins. In the northern US/most of Europe, they were formed by making merchant's guards municipal employees.
sleepinggreenidea
In the southern US, OTOH, the property they were "protecting" was ofc slaves...
REVENGE488
You either get capital punishment or have the capital to avoid punishment
NinjaPoopy
Yeah I'm poor white and police fuck me over all the time
dogwithahumanface
Being white doesn't mean you're not oppressed. It means your oppression isn't tied to your race. POC get fuck by police regardless of class.
sleepinggreenidea
They're more likely to, but even that isn't universal. Having said that, I've seen more than a few complaints about white privilege that
sleepinggreenidea
when you strip away the window dressing boil down to "Where's my class privilege?!?! I should have class privilege!!!" - It's very "lean in"
dogwithahumanface
Finding an exception doesn't disprove the rule. The police were established and remain an institution upholding white supremacy.
sleepinggreenidea
Bullshit. They were established as a means of upholding oligarchy. 1st police force in the US was Boston - and its forerunners were private
RealBernieSanders
Modern police were literally invented to brutalize and kill workers trying to unionize and stop deadly work conditions, long hours, low pay
RealBernieSanders
and child sweatshops. On top of that the police have largely become a safehaven for white supremacists to the point that the CIA won't work
RealBernieSanders
with local law enforcement because they simply can't be trusted.
Decitron
Don’t forget they also have origins in old slave patrols.
happenedonthursday
Imagine how full your prisons would be if white people were treated same as Black
Dmhg1
Bland killed herself. This was not her first attempt. But facts suck, huh?
fourthJumper
If you’re not ready to just blindly jump on the bashwagon in political posts then you need to leave! Facts are not welcome here
donflamingofilms9
Or protesters at the BLM matches? That are STILL in jail? Are these better examples?
LeftistCoastalElite
Yeah facts do suck on this site sometimes when it doesn't fit the narrative.
donflamingofilms9
How about kalief browder? He was arrested and held in prison without trial for 3 years because they thought he stole back pack. Better?
pancreas
what-aboutism at its finest. there are terrible examples of police injustice regardless of skin color. we shouldn't want that to be standard
pancreas
(2)so many people on this site seem to agree with Trumps quote about police "roughing them up a bit" when it fits their narrative
nonCanadianGoose
It’s likely she was released to ferret out other conspirators/buyers
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
Or made bail?
nonCanadianGoose
The bail amount could have easily been revoked or set to be impractical
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
She turned herself in and was compliant.
nonCanadianGoose
I doubt the FBI isn’t watching her and are especially interested with ppl she associates with
thiswascomplicated
White. Heavily tattooed. Catalytic converter stolen off truck. Cop criticized me/was a total dick for filing report and wasting his time.
Corrodias
What a useless department.
phukerstone
that sucks. my step mom's truck got stolen in TN, and the cops made us feel stupid for filing a report. what t'fuck else should we've done?
thiswascomplicated
I think cops cater to white people if you’re rich. Every one I’ve dealt with was a total prick and always acted like we wasted their time
phukerstone
my home town cops are decent. i'm not a fan of cops, but these guys aren't usually assholes. pretty small town though.
thiswascomplicated
I didn’t even want to deal with them about the theft but insurance needed a report for their records.
phukerstone
right? can't fucking file a claim without it.
thiswascomplicated
Exactly. It’s Texas though. Bible Belt and gun toting rich people. Then there’s “everyone else”
phukerstone
oh fuck. well then yeah, you were totally wastin their time. they prolly had illegals to harass.
kibu
So...the lady who was actually arrested for assault on an officer, and had the highest ever recorded amount of THC in her system...1/2
donflamingofilms9
Thc? Really? High levels of thc? I've been really fucking high on weed. Never thought of killing myself cuz I was really high on weed
DanaConti5
“Highest ever?”
genericanamoly
*highest ever recorded, from that officer
tegfdd77
Yeah it’s bullshit.
kibu
and later killed herself while in custody, is the same how? i mean how does assault during a stop get 'forgotten' or ignored? 2/2
OhHiMarkOhHeyLisaHiDannyHiMiUnderwearesOhHeyLisaSpooooons
To push the false narrative that the police are white supremacists who just want to kill black people
AreYouABadPerson
Not all that false a narrative when it keeps. FUCKING. HAPPENING. and they KEEP. FUCKING. GETTING AWAY WITH IT. You worthless sack of shit.
LeftistCoastalElite
So you are saying police are all white supremacists nazis looking to kill and/or harass every black person they encounter?
AreYouABadPerson
ACAB. The ones that aren't enable and support a system that lets the others be such and get away with it. When we're at the point as a
realargonwolf
Could have used a better example than Sandra Bland considering, despite the racial profiling, she wasn't attacked or killed by police.
tegfdd77
It was the last straw for her. Death in police custody should NOT happen. Too many cops have ZERO human compassion. Fuck those guys.
pancreas
all of these posts mentioning Riley Williams are based on potentially false allegations and misinformation.
pancreas
imgur gets too hyped up on emotion and doesn't pay attention to the facts. also, RIley turned herself in when they started looking for her.
DangerTrain
"She turned herself in after being found" isn't turning herself in. That's surrendering.
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
Hence why I use my username to full effect
pancreas
heh, nice
realargonwolf
She killed herself. Yes, she was in a bad mental state and wasn't given proper care, but she didn't "die for a turn signal".
ParryLost
If she was put in jail for no particularly good reason and denied proper care, then I'd say that's only one small step below killing her.
MediaBiasCheckerFanboy
Well she assaulted a police officer (PO). The wrongfully death was from not assessing her mental health after the arrest, they fired the PO.
realargonwolf
And as part of a plea deal he's agreed to never pursue a job with law enforcement again.
tpanyS
Would also be nice if people factored in the US prison system has borderline been emptied of anything but murderers thanks to COVID, (1/?)
AccountMadeJustForThis
There are states which have worked on reduction of prisoners, but that characterization is staggeringly far from the state of things.
tpanyS
Except it's not, because this isn't a reduction, this is them avoiding new introductions for intents of not needing to reduce again. (1/?)
tpanyS
This also isn't a "state" thing, her crimes are federal, meaning federal prisons, which are doing the same thing. In fact there is even(2/?)
AccountMadeJustForThis
I'll concede there absolutely is a current standing push to prioritize house arrests over imprisonment, but that's nothing to do with (1/?)
tpanyS
but honestly I've ceased having a lot of faith in the average imgur being able to form a competent thought past "ACAB" anymore. (2/2)
AnonKneeMoose
Look! A commenter with a superior tone, yet still deals in the same sweeping generalisations they’re bitching about!
tpanyS
You tell yourself whatever you need to so to feel better for riding the bandwagon circle jerk, it's sad but you do what you gotta I guess.
Rifneno
Selling classified info to the Russians should be handled like the old days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
Timmy79
Tbf the Rosenbergs were a bit harshly dealt with. But that bitch deserves whatever she gets.
Rifneno
>sell nuclear secrets to Stalin >"bit harshly dealt with" Are you fucking kidding me?
Timmy79
It wasn't that simple.
Timmy79
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg the conclusion drawn up before their trial? Seems legit
poopknifeMAN
And they were white. Im confuzed.
maximilianfragglebottom
they were Jewish. the white Christian west has never fully accepted jews.
SexuallyImpotentTyrannosaur
You write like you're recruiting for some kind of extremism.
maximilianfragglebottom
LordofSandvich
Isn't there some back and forth on this? I heard she's still awaiting trial with some serious charges on her, 20 to life
tpanyS
There's also the COVID factor that most of you all are ignoring, that has largely emptied prisons and prevents incoming for most crimes.
LordofSandvich
I figured this was the case but from the sound of it, no official reasoning was released.
tpanyS
I imagine because considering we're a year into the pandemic now it would have been common sense, but apparently not to a lot of people...
LordofSandvich
It's not the first thing you'd think of, when you're busy being mad about 100 other things.
tpanyS
Problem is people continue and frequently get mad over things based on disinformation and mob mentality. Know what mob mentality gets (1/?)
rooik14
Right, but she was released back to her mother until then. She should be sitting in jail awaiting trial.
LordofSandvich
Aye. Unless we know some solid reasons why, there's plenty of reason to complain.
mesogiria
No prior criminal history, not a violent crime, released on house arrest with GPS monitoring. That's not uncommon, especially with Covid.
rooik14
She was part of a violent coup against the United States.
mesogiria
That's not what she's been charged with, though.
rooik14
Except she is, she's being charged with crimes she committed during the violent coup. She was there and helping in those crimes.