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He has moved to Google+
Rexli78
We would like to congratulate information for winning the Info-war.
hottubpubes
He speaks the truth you sheep! My frog has been making passes at me non stop.... when will you open your eyes?!
XaviersSnakeArm
Thelrishlnquistion
FitzChevalric
y0crazy
https://youtu.be/uWd6XgBVIcg Just dropping this here
Twtmoose
Looking like a turd burrito.
Dysomnia
trollprozac
He was (is?) a troll and a bad comedian in my opinion. Why people get so worked up about most of his stuff is beyond me.
Traja01
I think people get worked up about it because other people believe it and get worked up enough to discharge a rifle in a pizza shop.
Discoduck
He incites and reinforces extreme emotions/ bogus beliefs that can easily lead to violence from the unstable people who buy into his BS.
hasoneconleche
He’s an embarrassment to conservatives like myself because he truly believes his own BS. He’s only good for a few laughs at his expense.
Discoduck
Bill Maher may not be as bad as Jones, but I cringe to my bones whenever I watch his show & realize he represents "the left" to many people.
Iseeairplanesalldaylong
On the Apple App store Infowars app has skyrocketed to #3 today. The ban may have had the opposite effect by giving him publicity.
jrolson311
He isn't banned from Apple then is he!? Or Android!? Or Google!? In other news Feinstein hired a Chinese spy for 20 years..... Wut!?
Iseeairplanesalldaylong
Who said he was banned from Apple? Not I. I said "the ban." You made a false logic connection.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
The image in this post says he was banned from Apple.
Etw2
This is 100% what I was thinking, great publicity guys lol
InvisibilityON
Where am I supposed to go to get a burly beet-man angrily warning me of things that never happened now?
kakivara
The president still has a Twitter account.
InvisibilityON
Haha. True.
iamjackscompletelackofcompassion
how this fuckin asshole can do this with a straight face is totally beyond me
kakivara
Piles and piles and piles of cash. And cocaine.
jjtallmantx
He is on Gab now which is kinda like Pluto
IhaveTP4Bunghole
As more and more people's accounts get completely deleted, more people will flock to Gab and Minds
Registeredfordeuce
Is that bill hicks ?
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
itxtalone
What ? I must Have missed this, anyone explain?
PiggyWobbles
alex jones finally, rightfully, banned from social media for one of the 800000 reasons the rest of us would be. They decided his nonsense >
PiggyWobbles
< was more damaging to their brands than his followers were worth in $, and so he was finally banned... years too late
jrolson311
Yet Farakhan with his 500k followers regularly calls for the genocide of an entire race. Wtf!
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Sandy Hook parents sued him for defamation because he claims Sandy Hook event wasn't real, was a false flag/psyop (that was ban trigger)
nstone11
Alex jones banned from youtube, itunes, facebook all within a day. Perhaps more? This is from memory
jrolson311
He's not though, this is Fake News. He's trending on ios and android and still streaming on youtube.
PressureWashington
...another "conspiracy" for him to talk about
cuntsicle
Im just gonna miss the collab videos of the dumb shit he says. God those were funny
thenipplebandit
Have you seen super deluxes remix of him? That was legendary.
GGCrono
And nothing of value was lost.
TheDude86
I wasn't against kicking off this loon off these sites but it was still kinda sketchy how they all did it within 12 hours
Jrhoney
Bingo. He said for a long time that the MSM was working together and this makes that statement look true
WildBluntHickok
How would they kick him off for committing crimes BEFORE he did them?
CyborgScribe
Howso? Once one big site makes a move the others will want to jump on the bandwagon for exposure. Business moves.
SushiVillain
I mean it takes maybe a few minutes to delete an account. All you do is go to settings and you're gone. Same for them likely.
PatchMaster
You realize the irony of implying conspiracy in this situation, right?
Lionskull
just because something is a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not true.
WildBluntHickok
Not like they can react before he commits crimes.
PiggyWobbles
ah yes, the secret conspiracy among them to kick a rule breaking, conspiracy and violence promoting lunatic off of their platform years late
Cereaza
Sketchy as in .. you think Obama and Clinton did it? Or perhaps it's parallel thinking? What's Sketch!?
jrolson311
Bilderberg
sceh1337
why do you think it's sketchy? maybe enough paying customers said they'd leave otherwise. or was that the sketchy part? genuine question.
ChaseBergeron
I mean facebook did it at 3am local time... so... sketchy
sceh1337
well yeah. who knows where that came from though? might have been noon wherever the decision was made.
ChaseBergeron
Local time: within facebooks headquarters. My actual guess is that is when they run updates to the server being the least traffic atthathour
sceh1337
I understood. Just saying the decision was not necessarily made inside the headquarters. maybe the guys/girls deciding this were in >
bearhill2
It is almost as if they paid attention to what their competitors do...
aflarge
They're not even trying to hide the coordination.
bikemerc
also 3 months before an election
keebs63
More like "oh this other company had the balls to do something about him so we should too so we don't end up looking like we tolerate him"
aflarge
That, uhh.. doesn't really make it better.
BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMushroom
its not coordination, the media was pressuring all of them to do it so as soon as one breaks rank they all do it, 1/2
BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMushroom
especially because it was apple first. --- evidence that the media was the pressure behind it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbM1kTKmaGA
BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMushroom
tim pool is a top notch independant journalist, he won awards for his coverage of occupy WS, hes very trustworthy imo
palmo
What's coordinated about seeing one company make a decision and having others follow suit? It's not like they had to do much to take him off
RocketRodster
In capitalism corporations should compete. This would be an example of price leadership.
palmo
There is no price is just dropping dead crazy weight
aflarge
Acting in unison towards a common goal?
palmo
They didn't work with each other to do that they all decided to do the same thing on their separate platforms.
aldashin
The only common goals are PR and profit.
WherePoetryComesToDie
There's no conspiracy. They saw one company make a move, and didn't want to be the last one left holding the "nutjob Alex Jones" bag.
aflarge
That just means they're spineless cowards.
WherePoetryComesToDie
I mean, I don't expect bravery or other human emotions from large profit-driven businesses, but you do you.
aflarge
If your standards are just replicating what other people do, you have no principles(or you're doing a great impression of those who don't)
WherePoetryComesToDie
I also don't expect principles from large profit-driven corporations. Nice when they have them, unsurprising when they don't.
RocketRodster
Full disclosure: I have TDS. The above coordination is called price leadership. It's an example that demonstrates that capitalism is an :1
RocketRodster
Illusion in many markets in the western world. Oligopolies gain monopolistic pricing power by tacitly agreeing not to compete. This is 2
RocketRodster
Facilitated by the fact that the same people sit on multiple boards. Don't trust Alex Jones and don't trust corporations.
aflarge
And I know, it's not a violation of the 1A, but I don't see the 1A as the justification for free speech, only it's protection from the state
aflarge
Oh, I'd trust him as far as I can throw him. It's more of a "I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it"
aflarge
There, they will fester and grow, until you get a REAL problem instead of trollbait and memes.
aflarge
You can't censor ideas you don't like, you can only push them to where they can't be monitored or regulated by common decency.
50ShadesofCovfefe
How will we get new Alex Jones memes now???
spammer206
Also... like they have a website and a podcast. Everything else was just additional 3rd party distribution. Doesn't stop them or anything.
kakivara
How about not making new Alex Jones memes at all, for any reason?
im100percentnagger
Snail mail
palmo
He has his own bullshit
LapisSea
minds.com ?
DrWhosYourDaddy
He has a website and app
ZombieJonSnow
Yeah hell still be just as big as he always has been. Maybe more so due to the exclusivity of his jabber.
ExecutorHideo
And he shouts at people with a Megaphone at random parks until hes asked to stop.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Free speech! I also heard he only bathes fortnightly and hung rudely up on his mother onetime.
AmHumanNotLizardMan
But if apple and google have shunned him, surely his apps are gone from their stores too? Or maybe they missed those?
frostybox
this kind of idiot doesn't go away so easily. He will continue to burn brightly like the thousand polished turds he is.
AnythingMuchShorter
In other words, a turd this big will not just go away in one flush.
DuckPlanetKing
Need a poop knife for that one.
turdpanther
this will probably just give him more publicity he is now a martyr
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Which is exactly the way it should be. Controversial or not, legal grey area or not, he should have a voice just like everyone else.
BolenArrow
Yea was going to say exactly this. Its freedom of speech, and they are going to lose more support than they gain for this...
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Fedotia
Nope, defamation, sueing Newtown parents for 100k, and calls for violence should get his mic confiscated.
Astarael1
He thinks I am inhuman because I am transgender. He believes MY voice will destroy the country so if he loses his i cant care much.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
So what? Just because you disagree with him, or he degrades you and you take it personal doesn't mean he shoudl be silenced!!
Astarael1
I find it hard to care for his rights when he thinks I should lose my own. Plus he knew the rules. He knew the policies for those sites.
Jiehfeng
As much as I disagree with him, this. But freedom of speech is just a fairytail, anyone who thinks it exists is foolish.
Jusmar
2. That said, censorship on any level limits our perspectives.
Jusmar
Freedom of speech is a governmental right, not a societal one. Companies and people can censor as much as they want.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
People can't censor each other, no. Companies can censor speech on their property, but thats it. 1/2
Jiehfeng
Even that my friend, doesn't exist the way you think. I know a guy who was taken to jail unfairly for talking shit about the government.
MrPhuckett
Yup! I wish more people knew he admitted in court that he is “in character” and it’s “just an act” for info wars. He does it to sell crap.
javer80
Supplements! This all came from hokey-ass supplements that he modeled for! I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Astarael1
Hate speech is hate speech. Doesnt matter if he does it for money or not. If he breaks policy he deserves to be kicked off those sites.
nateglen350
Everyone does, if they break policy
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Who gets to define hate speech? Those who are offended by it?
GeneralNuclear
The hell did he managed to get on spotify?
IhaveTP4Bunghole
Ask Antifa
GrandProtectorDark
Podcasts
TheGreatSteinhoff
But...the memes. Where are we gonna get our Alex Jones memes ?
SadToSay
As painful as it will be to not get new easy source material personifying raving stupidity I'm willing to let it go.
GrandProtectorDark
His personal Infowars website is still up
OldTownPhantom
Take old pictures, reception them with new bullshit. Just like we do with Albert Einstein!
kakivara
No one needs Alex Jones memes, ever, for any situation. There's no reason to call attention to him.
equityforpunks
If people think this is going to help, I have bad news for you. Infact, this will just agitate more people who follow these kinda lunatics.
newsguycraigevans
Whatever you say, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain.
TimeFoDat
Well it is removing several sources of income from him which is a different type of benefit depending on how he spends his money.
equityforpunks
I am not talking about him, but his followers.
TimeFoDat
Well you said "going to help" and I am just saying that it may help in some way even if it doesn't in the way people assume.
jrntn
We can't have those poor, poor, innocent assholes be agitated, now can we?
HiddenHitlerCrouchingStalin
Imagine being so 1stWorld that you tell people censoring opinions you dont like is a good idea.
equityforpunks
Well, if you enjoy Trump, please, stick your head more into ground.
PiggyWobbles
sorry, I disagree. Theres no reason at all for anyone to give alex jones a platform voluntarily.
marsgoose
I think we fucked up as a society when we jumped on all social media and tech companies because it was convenient when they first started
marsgoose
now they get to control the content most people see. This was a shit test, he is unpopular with most of right/conservatives/libertarians
marsgoose
so they are just checking how much backlash will they get with the least popular outlet.
marsgoose
And yes they are private companies, but this was done for political reasons, and it just promotes culture of censorship.
PiggyWobbles
when social media companies are censoring legitimate political positions, and not racist tirades/conspiracies, I'll be worried
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Wait, you mean if you silence people off widely-used private platforms, they don't just disappear?
equityforpunks
No. I mean that people who are drawn into this kinda stuff AJ spits out won't go extinct, but infact get even more organized.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Exactly, I was being sarcastic. Yes, more like hail hydra with action like this for the true infowars believers out there.
definitelynotaspider
looks like he finally lost the war against info
LarvaLamp
Underrated comment of the week right here
InsanoFlexYourHero
LiteralVampirePotBellyGoblins
Chocolat
MatrimBloodyCauthon
You're a good spider.
SuperfluousHelium
jrolson311
Not quite. His app is soaring on Android and Apple, and he is still streaming on youtube.
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Broody2131
Jesus christ
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
Amazing comment, but legitimately, as crazy and ridiculous as he is, does he need to be censored?
36roentgen
Although what he says is ridiculous and bad, it shouldn't be removed to preserve the power of free speech.
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
That's what I'm saying. Yt, twitter, facebook, they're all so big as to constitute public forums. So this is censorship. And it's wrong.
Raguleader
Given that he is slandering innocent people (parents of murdered school kids) by claiming them to be part of some conspiracy?
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
I'm not advocating slander be protected. But his inane autistic screeching should be.
Raguleader
Unfortunately, never the twain shall be separated in his case.
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
In addition, if being blocked by Trump violates your personal rights, this definitely violates his personal rights. Just sayin'
xeno426
That's only because Trump was using his personal account for official POTUS posts, plus how "blocked" vs "ignore" works on Twitter. (1)
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
I think you should be careful what you advocate. The barrel of this gun could swing your way. Safety first.
Traja01
If a left-wing equivalent of Alex Jones gets banned for engaging in the same activity, that would be right and proper.
xeno426
I am careful. This is what the courts decided as well, which you may want to read up on.
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Traja01
You should let people know this when you first meet them so they know to disregard your opinion about things.
BabySharkEtc
toddthewee
you forgot the /s
sturmhauke
If by "honest" you mean "batshit fucking crazy", it's one of the best since Time Cube.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Batshit fucking crazy or not, it doesn't warrant silencing him on those platforms. Plenty of batshit crazy voices remain published there.
homoerection
Sure it does. He broke the rules, so, consequences. It’s not hard to understand
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Right. "The Rules" were broken.
LordofGoats
Most of those other voices don't have followers who then stalk/threaten people the voice targets, like parents of Sandy Hook victims.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Why is he being held responsible for what people who watch his bullshit choose to do in the real world?
sturmhauke
He can still set up his own web server and spew his shit from there. YouTube etc. are not obligated to host hate speech.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
But they are obligated to host others hate speech, and not his? Double standards much?
TheDeanofLean
I'm pretty sure he had been losing the entire time
Carrera26
Oh, his campaign has had some mighty victories lately.
TheFartingUnicorn
Such as?
ditobaon
*crickets
Carrera26
The personal recognition and support of the President of the United States.
Carrera26
I think he's a friggin loon, just saying he's been a very successful loon of late
Carrera26
More than doubling YouTube subscribers since just October of last year.
quade
Good.
unclemeat70
Be careful what you wish for...
drhotdog
https://imgur.com/vB9B5
GeneralNuclear
That is indeed a good thing.
PutaLittleSpittleOnIt
Censorship is great isn't it?!? Right?
PutaLittleSpittleOnIt
Haha only -32. You kiddo's are losing your touch. Looks like I've got to up my troll game.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Quit being hysterical
WinstonSmith101
If ‘censorship’ is stopping people from lying and stirring up hatred. Great.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Its not censorship, its companies making the decision to remove a person for breaking certain policies that they’ve set
KonaDarbles
quade
This gif is mine now
quade
Apple isn't the government. This isn't censorship, this is capitalism and market economy at work.
unclemeat70
Its censorship
OneHundredPercentIce
It's only censorship if the government does it?
PutaLittleSpittleOnIt
It's bait bro
boogablend
Having opinions is pretty radical these days, especially if its the "wrong" opinion and god forbid you want to voice it
XAMANDER
Yeah, there's so many people jailed and beaten for having an opinion. It's terrible.
boogablend
Amen!
Rengii
Knack 2 was actually good.
moon2A
*gasp*
voltlunok
Get out of here Dunkey! You have videos to make!
Machinistjesus
Why hasn't that stupid racist Asian chick been booted yet
squirrelfury
Tricia Takanawa?
Machinistjesus
Yes she's out if control
DamnedAustin
Why are you incapable of talking about the topic at hand?
MichaelAndersen88
You mean the New York Times Asian woman?
kevinallover
Tila Tequila?
IamwhatIamandthatsallIam
Her name is Naomi Wu, and what they did to her is so wrong.
Machinistjesus
Yes
equityforpunks
That asian woman put a chinese maker woman in danger by not respecting their contract on what she was allowed to say in her interview piece.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Because it was satire. If you cared to get context, that was obvious.
Machinistjesus
Ah fuck me
Bastion97
Ok.
MadMupp
Isn't Alex Jones satire? Remember his court case?
squirrelfury
There's words and then there's actions. A satirist would probably recognize the damage being done and stop.
equityforpunks
Where as I am fine with her tweets she sure had crossed the line with them. More problematic is her journalistic ethic w/ that Chinese maker
SomeMayCallMeTimmmmm
Why are you fine with them?
muhvitus
There was no context half of the time. And again, had it been about non-whites, the ”its satire” wouldnt fly at all
Svartlebee
"Satire". She was covering her ass.
equityforpunks
Considering how "context doesn't matter" people have gotten nowadays she should've been fired, which I don't agree on anyone's case. 1/2
equityforpunks
2/2 Considering how many ppl have been fired over similar stuff (e.g James Gunn) this will backfire and just cause more polarization & anger
6KidsInATrenchcoat
Friendly reminder to everyone voicing opinions here: calling people names is the worst way to get them to listen to your argument.
CreateYourOwnNormality
Very well said, cunt.
RPCharImages
Found the Australian!
GivOsEnSocialistiskKalmarUnion
Okay, names
homoerection
Fuck you you fucking fuck. Sorry, I’m just hungry.
BarryAllensSole
"Why are you so cranky" - best way to make a calm person angry.
fluffysstuff
As if calling Cons. "nazis" for the last 2 years hasn't been a prime explanation for why political discourse is in it's present state
ISavePrettyGirlsInMyFavorites
Right wingers have been calling liberals “commies” for literally decades. Pot, meet kettle.
fluffysstuff
Antifa draws rhetoric from communists. Retard, meet reality.
ISavePrettyGirlsInMyFavorites
If you’re against antifa, then you’re pro-fascist. That’s simple logic. Get your head out of your gaping asshole
fluffysstuff
"They call themselves anti-fascist, so they must be against fascism!" Holy fuck bro, your galaxy brain is amazing. How you do dat?
fluffysstuff
And left wingers have been calling republicans "Repugs" (cute play on "Republican" and "repugnant"). What's your point?
Traja01
But if they aren't or won't listen anyway, you have nothing to lose.
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Traja01
Sure, and if you're really talking to them, that makes sense. I'm just saying, sometimes, it's fine to insult people.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Thank you. Many posters on Imgur and elsewhere forget this nugget of knowledge. Others are reading.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
The deleted comment was "There is always an audience"
aflarge
I wonder if "GO PUNCH A NAZI! ALSO TRUST ME TO TELL YOU WHO THE NAZIS ARE, DON'T ASK THEM" counts as glorifying violence? Ah, probably not.
skyshadow
Nazis -> NsDAp == NationalSOZIALISTISCHE Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Why is everyone forgetting this nuance.
GrandProtectorDark
Highlighting socialism only because you can't distinguish it from communism isn't gonna help.
skyshadow
Communism is the culmination of socialism, and I don't want either of them.
skyshadow
For all I care they are the same thing, but only the one can be applied in real life.
Discoduck
What about whataboutism?
aflarge
If you hold your enemy to a higher standard than you hold your allies, you are tacitly endorsing them as superior. To be clear, I'm not...
aflarge
..saying they are necessarily better than you, just that judging them on a harsher curve is an argument for that sentiment.
aflarge
It's why we don't hold children to adult standards. They're still learning how to be people, and shouldn't be judged the same as adults.
kakivara
Who exactly are you quoting there? Anyone? Did anyone say that? No? OK, thanks for your input.
RedDwarfIV
Its not a quote. Its a joke quote, based on Antifascist Aktion's penchent for punching people who are not nazis.
newsguycraigevans
Please, tell us more about how you like to defend Nazis by blaming everything on organizations that oppose Nazis.
RedDwarfIV
They rose to power in Weimar Germany through political violence and intimidation. Making those illegitimate tactics protects us from nazis.
LiterallyHitlersLeftNut
RedDwarfIV
But you are literally Hitler's left nut!
LiterallyHitlersLeftNut
RedDwarfIV
So, following the logic backwards... I don't like you? Sorry mate.
LiterallyHitlersLeftNut
Leithoa
It doesn't. Punching white supremacists (they would piss their Doc Martins if they met a real Nazi) is the new Omaha beach.
Leithoa
To clarify, I'm saying neo 'nazis' would piss their boots. Doc martins are the favored brand of boots for 'boots & braces' types.
datma
Nazi's are the ones with swastikas, easy to identify without help. Stupid comment.
The13thDude
And they’re the ones yelling racist shit while wearing that stuff, so no, not hard at all to tell
aflarge
If only those were the only people getting accused of being Nazis, I still wouldn't agree with the violence, but it'd be better, at least.
PiggyWobbles
I absolutely guarantee if I went on facebook and directed people to punch a particular individual or group, I would be banned.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
"Figure of Speech" defense could be used depending on context of the commentary in question.
Xannos
Not if they were a straight white upper class male with right leaning views
PiggyWobbles
Go start a "murder Steve Mnuchin" facebook group, and let me know how long it takes to be banned/visited by the FBI
skyshadow
Excuse me, white males are protected group by facebook's policy for about half a year now.
jrntn
The nazis getting punched are self-proclaimed ones.
imnotryan
Really? Dozens (probably more) videos of antifa going around in masks just punching people for wearing fire department shirts and shit.
JumperX
Nope. Jeremy Hambly was attacked at a convention by some #PunchNazis lunatic. This is becoming more common.
aflarge
If you don't understand your enemy, you'll never get the better of them. Calling every racist a Nazi destroys the meaning of the word "Nazi"
PersonalityFire
Nazism isn't just a political party that did some awful shit, it's the worldview that certain races "belong" and others don't.
aflarge
That's just racism. Nazis and Racists are fucking assholes, but they are NOT synonyms.
PersonalityFire
Racism is not selfsame with Nazism, no, but self-proclaimed racists can absolutely be described as Nazis.
PersonalityFire
Here, read this: https://twitter.com/yonatanzunger/status/922202212457070592?lang=en
aflarge
Lol even richard spencer isn't a Nazi. he's a white nationalist.. do you just lump everyone you don't like into "homogeneous assholes"
jrntn
I do lump people who advocate the genocide of entire ethnic groups together, yes. Sue me.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Yep, with Nazi's being the most recent example in modern recorded history to reference, hence calling other similar people the same.
jrntn
Also, Richard Spencer coining the term "alt-right" to avoid the social stigma of calling himself a neo-nazi isn't a move we have to accept
jrntn
Richard Spencer has proclaimed a wish to exterminate the black race, so the specific nonclemanture he chooses is less important
aflarge
That's not a Nazi. He's definitely a fucking asshole, but to call every racist a Nazi destroys the meaning of the word in colloquial use.
jrntn
Not every racist is called a nazi, by anyone. Just the ones it's accurate for.
aflarge
Which ultimately HELPS the Nazis, because now when people shout it at them, it's reasonable to assume someone's exaggerating.
VoidofLostKnowledge
I disagree with the politics of Che and Marx, I don't physically assault the students I see wearing their apparel. That's barbaric.
jrntn
Of course not. People who wear Che merchandise are usually ignorant to his massacres and aren't actively advocating repeating them
jrntn
American neonazis, however, are routinely murdering people. So, you know, these things are different.
VoidofLostKnowledge
We've had terrorist attacks a plenty in the UK, I'm not hunting down Muslims. How's that for a better comparison.
The13thDude
The USA went to war against the Nazis. If you want to dress up as a traitor don’t get angry when people want to beat your ass. People died
LiterallyHitlersLeftNut
People died, that’s like saying it rains. People die every second, there are 7.4 billion people in this space rock, 60 million is 0.008%
LiterallyHitlersLeftNut
Of our population at the current moment. I’m not making light of the number, but Stalin said it best, “ One death is a tragedy, one million1
LiterallyHitlersLeftNut
Is a statistic.”
The13thDude
You’re scary.
skyshadow
It's funny how Americans of the time didn't call them nazis. Fritzs, Jerries, Germans, were how they were called before 1970's.
WildBluntHickok
Not true. They also called the Japanese "Japinazis" sometimes.
The13thDude
Not exactly pc when you take into account that nearly half of white America is genetically German. Had to change their last names after WW1
aflarge
Yeah. That's why it's so disrespectful to call every racist or dissident a Nazi. You are using the corpses of the dead as political tools.
aflarge
But go ahead and keep crying Nazi and then act surprised when nobody takes it seriously any more. Make your bed and sleep in it.
aflarge
If you don't care about the accuracy of your accusations, I hope you receive nothing but the same from your enemies. You'll have earned it.
WildBluntHickok
I had some racist call me out on using the phrase KKK like that. "The KKK actually KILL people over their beliefs. I don't."
aflarge
I mean the comeback to that is easy enough, "I wasn't calling you a murderer, I was calling you a racist piece of shit."
maximilianfragglebottom
when folks are out there doing HH salutes and screaming about Evil Jews, I don't care what they call themselves, I'm swinging
aflarge
Then I guess Congratulations, you're striving to be worse for our society than the Nazis. I'm not sure you should be proud of that.
maximilianfragglebottom
My grandparents went through the actual Holocaust and you don't know what you're talking about.
aflarge
Yeah, and were even a shadow of that, I'd agree they were the threat. However, it's those like you who advocate for political violence.
aflarge
The "Nazis" aren't even going out and punching their enemies. You're actively trying to be worse than they are. Mean words are not violence.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
"Mean words are not violence." - Good luck convincing the Instagram generation of that fact.
PlantainSuperNova
Remember when a neo nazi literally plowed his car through a crowd of people?
jrntn
It probably does. It's just that nobody says that. "trust me to tell you who the nazis are, don't ask them" is the opposite of what happens
aflarge
The most famous one was richard spencer, and he's not a nazi, he's a white nationalist. Nazi doesn't just mean "racist asshole".
LarvaLamp
Thank you! This current wave of blanket labels to groups you don't like is infuriating
aflarge
I like how people downvote me, most likely because they think I'm defending him. I called him a racist asshole; I just want people...
aflarge
hating him for what he actually is. Have your opinions, but actually check them against fucking reality every once and a while, Jesus.
Hugses
First you silence the people who disagree with you that no one really cares about. The kooks. The crazies. The unpopular weirdos. Then 1/2
WildBluntHickok
Nice strawman you got there.
PiggyWobbles
ah yes, because telling a lunatic to go find another street corner to yell on is the equivalent of a vast authoritarian conspiracy
marsgoose
But just one lunatic and leave the rest because said lunatic happens to have opposing political views.
PiggyWobbles
Feel free to point out all of the other lunatics promoting conspiracy theories about dead kids/sex slaves/pedophiles/jews
VeryMoistTowelettes
Or maybe it stops at people who both harass, and have their followers harass, the parents of dead elementary schoolers
marsgoose
But they didn't ban him for that, they were OK with that, they banned him now when he became politically effective.
SankariSuomi
He's never been politically effective.
VeryMoistTowelettes
When did he become politically effective?
marsgoose
When the whole trump thing started happening
marsgoose
nobody cared for him for almost 2 decades even when he did shitty things and said batshit crazy stuff, but now they do
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Not likely to stop anything, if at all. More likely to encourage more deviant behavior unfortunately.
Hugses
once you establish that the people will allow you to silence others, you go after the intellectuals that disagree with you, 2/3
obijan
"Intellectuals". This guy claimed the NASA had secret child raping moon bases and inter-dimensional ships.
GrandProtectorDark
As far as the child slaves are disgusting, A functional mars colonie would be interesting(from a technologioe standpoint)
Trickstan
She wasn’t saying he is an intellectual. She was saying he’s a kook. The intellectuals are next
Hugses
each man or woman silenced slowly less and less radical until every person who utters a word you disagree with is silenced. Until you 3/4
unclemeat70
Just check the UK
TimeFoDat
What happened to #4?
LarvaLamp
It was silenced
Hugses
find disagreement and dissenters within your own group and silence them, too. Until you can silence anyone who dares disagree with you. 4/5
CardboardStomach
Quite a slippery slope you're riding there.
Hugses
This is what silencing one will start. Right now, they see what we will allow. And I don't like it, not one iota. 5/5
skorve
Legitimately - what would you have happen? Would you have the government force platforms to accept him?
borgmaster
However this wasnt just some kook. This was a guy that actively propagated and created hate for his own profit.
Traja01
1) this isn't government censorship but an issue of private association, 2) slippery slope arguments are logically fallacious.
FuckMeThenYou
So i am oppressed for not having a show on Fox news?
Onyxstorm
I wonder if the snowflakes realize that they're on the side the Nazis etc would have been on. They are just a new form of it.
DickPicEnthusiast
Quit your bullshit! He has not been silenced, he can go out on the street and scream his incoherent rambling at whomever will listen. 1/?
TatersWhatsTatersPrecious
In before some idiot screams free speech where it doesn't even apply
SlightlyBlackerTactleNeck
Because suppression is the right thing to do
DoYouGuysNotHavePhones
FrEe SpEeCh
somerandomtwat
not not covered by free speech laws in the US but that does not mean people dont not have a right to criticises them for bias/hypocrisy/
somerandomtwat
being arbitrary
tehmatser
Does anyone else think that this is giving him a little too much press though?
lDanielHolm
The principle is still there and banning him serves no purpose. It gives him "street cred" for lack of a better term. Better to let him talk
lDanielHolm
and watch him drive himself into the ground as the trainwreck he is.
polarpurple
Exactly! Just like with cakes.
HoneyBadgerSC05
FREE SPEE- oh..
WinstonSmith101
Up to speed now?
Leithoa
Free speech is a principle, not just what's in the 1A. Just because "they're not the gov't & can do what they want" doesn't make it right
lokitoki81
They are companies and can ban whoever. BUT they are now publishers and NOT a platform anymore so its gonna bite them in the ass now.
zvodd
It has been suggested that as these behemonth platforms have dominated the landscape, maybe they need to be similairly regulated.
skyshadow
It can't be done. Zucc is correct in saying social media is all or nothing game.
aflarge
The First Amendment is not the definition of free speech, it's our protection of free speech from the state. It's an important distinction.
muffinsat4am
These privatised companies can host who they want, but it would be hypocritical to claim they are bastions of free speech.
skyshadow
They can also hire who they want but when far left activists insisted to hire more of them nobody complained.
marsgoose
Sure it applies, all these companies do not support free speech. They are not legally bound by 1st amendment but they are still dicks.
GrandProtectorDark
Being a new channel doesn't protect you from getting banned on a third party social media site. You wreck havoc in someone elses house
GrandProtectorDark
and then get pissed for being kicked out
isthatgoodicanttell
free speech always applies, it has nothing to do with any law its a principle.
JapAnus
This guy gets it
WinstonSmith101
And yet you can get sacked for exercising that principle. Grow up.
TimeFoDat
Obviously he's talking about misplaced comments about the legal protections of the first amendment. Or at least it should be obvious.
boogablend
Isn't it the worst when someone gets a platform to discuss an opinion people dont like?
Horsenippleking
If he only cited his shit as opinions it might be different but he presents his nonsense as fact and endangers people
WinstonSmith101
Where exactly was the ‘discussion’ this chap offered exactly? I’ll wait...
boogablend
He has people on his show to have debates with all the time lol and has forums and accepts calls from irate democrats like every day lol
WinstonSmith101
Poor excuse for debate, that...
boogablend
How is that not debate ya damned limie
bosskcradossk
You cant yell "Bomb" in an airport and you cant spread false information and pass it off like facts for years on public platform. womp
DownvotedDaily
You mean like CNN? Granted they dont cover too many lizard people sightings. Plenty of false information though. womp
Mindshard
Well the second part is wrong, you can, you just get made president as punishment.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
YouTube is not a public platform, it is privately owned. YouTube does allow all kinds of false information; why no also Alex Jones?
MFuzzySmock
Because of exactly what you just said; they are a private corporation. As such, the first amendment does not protect him here.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
No, I mean "Why not allow Alex Jones?" when they publish other equally asinine bullshitters - not "Why is this not a free speech issue?"
CakesArePrettyGood
They can punch people so why cant i
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
More like, that platform supports and promotes 90% of other people's opinions, and information (false or not) so why not mine?
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drunkbs
That doesn't have anything to do with CNN, he's doing that all on his own.
boogablend
According to cnn
dontslamthefuckingdoor
"Making him out to be Hitler"? By doing what, reporting on his actual actions? Or is that all "fake news"?
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somerandomtwat
this is such of poor comic. the maker does not seem to know what free speech means and also makes up a straw man no one is arguing for
WildBluntHickok
You might want to read the rest of the replies. This is exactly what some of these idiots are arguing for.
somerandomtwat
ive not seen many if any
LoudBirb
Free Speech as a concept and "the right to Free Speech as defined by the 1st amendment" are two different things. Comic addresses the latter
somerandomtwat
exactly but no one ever talks about the amendment one when they talk about issues like this. so that comic is a straw man
somerandomtwat
and every time i see it posted in the comments (like here) it used to try and say that the concept of free speech bullshit and
FreelanceSpermDonor
As a conservative I can honestly say this man is a fruitcake and embarrassment.Sadly it lets strangers paint me with the same brush as him.
TheBlueMuppet
Your frogs arent gay, so we are suspicious.
FreelanceSpermDonor
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/44432480/i-believe-youre-a-gay-fish.jpg
obijan
Glad to hear, but... how do you square that with the fact that he was supported by your favorite anointed orange?
MrJacobMan
A lot of conservatives voted Gary Johnson. But most voted Trump simply bc they thought he was better than Hillary. I still agree he is.
obijan
In what? Corruption? Incompetence? Racism? It's the racism, isn't it?
Carrera26
I am not a conservative, though I respect that they have a separate viewpoint. Sad to see the radicalization
BolenArrow
They do you a favor when they do. You immediately know they are a blind dipshit who has barely dipped a toe into understanding your side.
WildBluntHickok
Don't worry, most of us know he's Extreme Right Wing rather than just Right Wing.
jsktrogdor
You do that to yourself. You apply a label to yourself that bundles you together with the 80% of Republicans who think Trump is Jesus.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Trump is about as deranged and has 87% republican support. Why shouldn’t we paint you with that brush? Seems to fit.
FreelanceSpermDonor
Gee, three posts ago you wrote "And you deserve to eat a bullet" to someone you disagreed with. Yup, it's the Trumpists that are deranged.
jsktrogdor
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1024467940257738752 Yes, it's the Trumpists that are deranged.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I mean did you see what the dude wrote? And yes, yes they are.
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worldsokayestspeler
Im not saying they have no right, but it's just bad moral behavior. If you dont like someone's opinion, argue it dont suppress
WildBluntHickok
Incitement to riot is illegal. This isn't any different.
Dokramuh
It's not about his opinions. It's about breaking ToS.
Mindshard
So if I started using racial slurs in every reply and saying we should take down all the blacks, Imgur mods should let me go and debate it?
Cheknya
Choked on my water. +1
TehGrimReaper
Why should they continue to let him use the platform they pay for, especially with someone that can't be expected to debate in good faith?
Squossifrage
Would you still be saying that if your child had been murdered and you couldn't visit his grave and had to constantly move because —
Cheknya
Please, please be joking. Fuck.
Squossifrage
Joking? I can guarantee you that Noah Pozner's parents aren't laughing, nor are the five other families suing Jones over this.
Cheknya
After reading more about it I'm deeply saddened that this isn't a joke. Fuck Alex Jones.
Squossifrage
— someone kept posting videos saying that your child never existed and that you were some sort of “deep state operative” and enough people —
Squossifrage
— believed him to ensure that you can never go out in public and can never live in the same place for long before they find out where you —
Squossifrage
— live and start sending you threats and staking out your house? Because that's what Alex Jones did to parents of Sandy Hook victims.
FuckMeThenYou
This isn’t suppression anymore than me not having my own program on Fox news is oppression of me...
Facepaints
How so? Anyone can create a YouTube, Facebook, Twitter account. It is suppression by targeting a single voice that you don’t like.
FuckMeThenYou
No they can't all those sites have an active policy on who they allows to use their platforms
WildBluntHickok
I guarentee you that if someone put up a channel saying everyone should kill the blacks the channel would be taken down.
FuckMeThenYou
And Fox is suppression by not having non extremist rightwing opinions?
skyshadow
Fox is a publisher, YT, FB, Twitter are platforms though they act far more like a publisher at this point.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Not American here. Isn't the amendment for free speech only applicable to the Government VS Citizen?
Leithoa
Free speech is a principle that happens to be written in US law. It is legal for NGOs to censor, but it breaks the principle.
WildBluntHickok
No it doesn't. If a homeless guy starts ranting about the lizard people in Dairy Queen they can call the cops to have him removed.
Leithoa
Horrible analogy. Alex Jones has no impact on other users to enjoyment their time on these sites. If you don't look for it you don't see it.
Dokramuh
It is.
Mindshard
It's only non-americans that seem to understand this...
somerandomtwat
i dont think many people struggle with the law on it but a lot of people dont seem to understand that just because something
somerandomtwat
is within the confines of the law does not make it not shitty behaviour
marsgoose
We have bunch of strawman that don't understand this.
somerandomtwat
yea i dont think ive seen many if any people argue that stuff like this is illegal yet so many people seem to use it as a straw man to doge
somerandomtwat
the real question of is it a shitty action for them to do this
swatz
Technically yes, but people forget about that part. You can actually get ticketed in some areas for vulgar language. The problem is that <
swatz
>the schools aren't teaching it correctly anymore. My daughter was cramming for the test, and all she really had to know was the main <
swatz
>thing each amendment was for, not really any specifics. When I started quizzing her on more, she was said "I don't need that for the test"<
swatz
>While I know that's just a kid reaction, that's kind of how the classroom worked too. So I had to explain to her, exactly what you said.
MrDeadsr
Problem is that he is spreading fake news. And social media is supposed to stop fake news.
LarvaLamp
Social media is supposed to facilitate communication. Nothing more, nothing less.
schlummi
Facebook is under pressure bc fake news, russian propaganda etc. On these sites extreme views can also band together and form echo chambers.
schlummi
People can motivate each other, radicalize each other (see sovereign citizens or similar movements), so these sites are used as propaganda
somerandomtwat
yes the amendment only covers that but being pro free speech means not silencing other people when they talk to
WildBluntHickok
Inciting a riot is against the law. How is this any different?
somerandomtwat
how is it the same?
WildBluntHickok
He convinced his loony followers that Sandy Hook never happened and all the grieving families are actors. That's why he got kicked off.
somerandomtwat
other people that want ot listen using platforms that allow them to. its not illegal (and it should not be) but its shitty behaviour to be
somerandomtwat
sure
isthatgoodicanttell
Free speech is a universal human right which origin can not be traced back to a law
Imademyselfsquirtle
I'm talking about the amendment, stay on topic. I am not talking about human rights. Government vs Citizen.
LarvaLamp
There's no such thing as universal human rights unless they are put down as laws.
isthatgoodicanttell
I agree theres no such thing as universal rights but if you need someone else to tell you whats ethical you prolly dont care for free speech
LarvaLamp
What's ethical to you may not be to me, and vice versa. Laws are at least written down
TimeFoDat
Yes but that has nothing to do with people misunderstanding how the U.S. Constitution works & where/how it applies to people.
isthatgoodicanttell
Dont really see anyone misunderstanding that, dont worry I know those who have never had an original thought don't value free speech highly.
TimeFoDat
It's really not even a violation of the idea of free speech. These are commercial platforms—no one took away this guy's soap box.
TimeFoDat
Not in these comments (yet) but that's what people are referring to. It's a very popular argument that people use with these situations.
TimeFoDat
A private company fires someone & people say it's a "violation" of the 1st amendment. It's just a private entity cultivating their brand.
marsgoose
I think that's kind of a strawman, i find that people do understand the law applies only to the government, and are just upset because
TimeFoDat
In-person I have literally watched someone decry that a firing was "unconstitutional" so I'm going off my own anecdote. I assume it varies.
marsgoose
private companies are not applying free speech principle on their platform/
purdhapley
These are companies, not government institutions. They can ban who they like. They’re not stopping him from being on other platforms.
skyshadow
First the communists infiltrate companies because "they can help", and then they tell everyone private companies can do what they want.
skyshadow
If you support this then great job comrade, keep doing what you're doing. Otherwise you're being manipulated and are only worsening issue.
lokitoki81
They are publishers and NOT a platform if they monitor/regulate the content. Its means problem as they are now responsible for all content
polarpurple
Who they want to Ban, and who they want to bake cakes for.
IAmDeathAndIAmNotFunAtParties
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IAmDeathAndIAmNotFunAtParties
ᴛʜᴇsᴇ ᴛᴇʀᴍs, ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏᴍᴘᴀɴʏ ɪs ɴᴏᴛ ᴏʙʟɪɢᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sᴇʀᴠᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ᴀɴʏᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ʜᴀs ᴇᴠᴇʀʏ ʀɪɢʜᴛ ᴛᴏ ʀᴇᴛʀᴀᴄᴛ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ sᴇʀᴠɪᴄᴇs.
AurikNecal
There is some arguement in that these places are the modern public squares, and so are protected by first amendment.
AurikNecal
It still must go through the court system however.
SalmonPieBaron
Free speech is a more than a law, but a principle. Not to mention the hypocrisy in your comments. Do you think the same about
Mindshard
You have freedom of speech from government suppression, not private. Being allowed to say whatever you want without consequence is insane.
SalmonPieBaron
Whatever within the confines of legality, of which he stayed in. Also, the consequence should be the opinion of the public, not the blatant
Mindshard
Racism, attempting to incite violence and harassment are not legal. You've never heard him talk about Jews I assume.
SalmonPieBaron
Use of quasi-monoply.
DaOllieGSauce
It is neither law nor principle but a constitutionally guaranteed right. Constitutional rights are the contract between the government 1/?
somerandomtwat
no its all 3 of those. free speech law/constitutional right exist and are very good but the idea of free speech as a principle still exists
DaOllieGSauce
in terms of the arguments I am addressing, it is a conversation about the constitutional right. No law was made about his speech and the 1/
DaOllieGSauce
and it’s people. It protects speech. Not the platform or microphone. Eg, no one is stopping Alex Jones from speaking or saying whatever 2/?
DaOllieGSauce
he wants. He is not entitled to the use of a platform or microphone to make said speech. He can still make videos, audio recordings, and 3/?
SalmonPieBaron
People refusing services to gay people ? They're not stopping them from using other services.
Crowfeather1
Bacaus a bakery or a bakery chain does have a monopoly on bakerys.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Tyranny of the majority. They are ok with it because it silences only the speech they happen to disagree with.
schlummi
It's not about what someone is, it's about what you do. You don't get banned for being gay, but Youtube would ban you for posting gay porn.
IllegalDuckling
Yeah, fuck that dude. If he doesn't want my money I'll just go buy from someone else.
OwlFarm
That's discrimination based on sexual orientation. AJ has been banned for repeatedly violating TOS agreements.
SalmonPieBaron
Oh please. TOS are mostly bullshit and are made to justify "screw you, we'll do what we want". Nothing he did was illegal.
TheBlackWindHowls
Depends, are the gay people calling mass shootings of schoolchildren government conspiracies?
SalmonPieBaron
Depends, are these actions illegal ? No. Then it is no reason to deny services.
Mindshard
No, but Alex taught me that they're turning frogs gay which is just as bad!
Mindshard
That's different, it's called discrimination. If they just refuse to serve you without saying why that is 100% their right.
polarpurple
The word "discrimination" applies to both cases equally... and both are completely legal.
SalmonPieBaron
Fun fact : it's not illegal to refuse service over sexual orientation. What will you say now ?
anarchyrodeo
Can't even have curse words on TV but gayfrogs mcnaziface getting booted from youtube is a "free speech violation"
borgmaster
Im a advocate of free speech but what he did went beyond that. This guy propagated and created hate and paranoia for the sake of profit.
Leithoa
When did Infowars promote nazi ideologies?
babycheesehead
Doesn’t the FCC monitor network tv and issue fines for certain curse words?
AttackOfTheSpaceBat
In which decade do you live in?
uzerok
Technically you're free to create your own TV channel. But if you're on someone else's channel their right to free speech supersedes yours.
Jambersome
You can say quite a bit on prime time tv. Fuck is still not allowed. Everything else is, pretty much.
GrandProtectorDark
German tv allows curse words. Suck it America
definitelyNotTheIRS
American tv does too, no idea what that dude is talking about
captainikag
I mean Cartoon Network won't let you say "fuck my sloppy cunt" on it
definitelyNotTheIRS
You're right, the children's network does have a few rules about that
voltlunok
Man, you should see what Japan allows kids shows to do. Ask me how the first Kaixa died in Kamen Rider Faiz. It's not pretty.
bleblebla
In germany you go to jail for reporting facts about migrants, soo, at least you can curse... yet
GrandProtectorDark
Depends on if you mean actual unbaised facts, or hatespeech anti immigration "facts"
Callito
Noone goes to jail for reporting facts about immigrants in Germany. Lies like this just spread more hate .
Hatsunn
Do you actually believe that?
bleblebla
Censorship in germany is on another lever 5000eur or jail time for 'hate speach' is the law, and it can be writing facts about muslim crimes
Callito
1. There is no thing as hate speech in german law. 2. There is a Paragraph for " Volksverhetzung" (1/2)
schlummi
Do you really believe this? Maybe watch less nazi propaganda. Every newspaper prints facts about muslims crimes without getting into trouble
ISavePrettyGirlsInMyFavorites
zvodd
Wait does AJ advocate violence? I thought his whole shtich was to sell you fear and then actually SELL you various products claiming protect
CaptainInvictus
One could argue peddling unfounded conspiracies about the evils being done by his targets that must be stopped is inciting violence itself.
thalass
orangorilla
More thunderous applause.
whatwhonow
It's super weird how Conservatives love the free market right until the point it inconveniences them. Wait, no, not weird... Predictable!!
FractalPrism
just like the reaction sarah palin got after her "map with target icons for her political rivals" and "would be a shame" comments, right?
Datmurdaa
The unintended consequence of this is that now Alex Jones can have the appearance of being vindicated by the censorship.
whatwhonow
Hes been claiming that for years already. So literally nothing has changed.
Datmurdaa
Getting rid of Alex Jones isn't going to get rid of his followers. This shut down on multiple platforms over night is all the proof they...
Datmurdaa
Need to bolster their crazy opinions
whatwhonow
They don't actually care about or even want proof, though. Like I said, nothing has changed.
thedownlowe
SilvanOrion
Need to dot this to show someone later.
parallaxHero
thespunkygiraffes
I'm confused, what violence was he promoting?
skorve
"[Mueller is] a demon I will take down, or I'll die trying. So that's it." He talks about demons acting physically in our world, so people
skorve
who follow him could definitely take this literally and see it as a call to action.
ThyDevilsAdvocate
Here here
mrtaylorreece2
YouTube doesn't have to respect your freedom of speech
DaMummy
You're sounding a lot like the people wanting to silence people like Kaepernick because the NFL is a private company.
lowEntertainment576
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TheAsterite
You cant discriminate against the physically or mentally ill though
ilikegarlicbread
How has he influenced his followers to do physical harm? All i saw was a couple videos of infowars owning liberals on the street in debate.
Snooj
Yay for Capitalism!
geiokami
It’s bullshit. I’ve never seen him/infowars call for violence but I have seen BLM call for the murder of whites.... they don’t get removed
ISavePrettyGirlsInMyFavorites
Well if you didn’t see it, then it must have never happened.....
geiokami
I didn’t say it didn’t happen but the fact that BLM does the same thing but is praised for it is bullshit
LlamaLingo
3. It's a capitalist choice to raise the price heavily on a monopolized drug. Does that make it right?
TheDerkus
The idea behind that point is those who oppose the deplatforming tend to be capitalist - not that capitalism is 'good' or 'bad'.
HiddenHitlerCrouchingStalin
''He influenced his followers to do harm meanwhile I have no issue with ANTIFA or BAMN or even a times journo telling white people to die''
whatwhonow
And where did OP say they were ok with those things, again?
SoylentR
Classic whataboutism
HiddenHitlerCrouchingStalin
Classic Doublespeak. Have you tried using arguments lately?
SoylentR
Have you tried reading what was posted or were you too exhausted from the mental gymnastics?
HiddenHitlerCrouchingStalin
Did you present an argument? Yes or no?
ILoveMeAGoodTime
This was entirely constitutional and these companies have every right to do it; however, they’re trying to have their cake and eat it too 2)
ILoveMeAGoodTime
They should start being judged as publishers and not open platforms if they’re going to start censoring opinions. Again, they have the 3)
ILoveMeAGoodTime
Right to do what they did but they are NOT an open platform and it’s important to acknowledge that. The more that they regulate their 4)
ILoveMeAGoodTime
Platform, the more legally responsible they are for the content on the platform.
Shanata
By your logic they have never been an open platform. There have always been things that cannot be posted on these websites.
ijoinedtoolate
Theres no problem with negarogers creating his own platform and doing his own thing. Business should able to deny service
AnonOmis1000
Whos downvoting this? IIRC he already streams his shit on his own website.
Madethisusernameforonereason
People who disagree with free speech and think violence is an acceptable answer, like the Pope.
GodEmperorOfImgur
... nega-rogers. I love that, yes. He's basically the opposite of Mr. Rogers.
VagrantDust
Isn't that whole idea being challenged in our courts right now with the gay wedding cake case? They're claiming the same thing.
idontcare99099
Sooooo.... bakeries should be able to deny clients based on sexuality?
bingebammer
Sexuality, religion, race, disabilities are certain protected classes of people. You can ban someone for being an asshole, not for being gay
idontcare99099
Found the person that doesn’t believe in equality!
ijoinedtoolate
Sensible
Dathieflord
Everyone is claiming the calls to violence but no one is quoting. I dont follow infowars. What did they say?
CapitalNick
Inciting violence would be the better phrase.
Solarrays
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/08/the-lasting-trauma-of-alex-joness-lies/566573/
GokuBeatsSuperMan
Totally prepared for hate here, but that’s not inviting violence. Inviting violence is directly calling people to act violently.
GokuBeatsSuperMan
What Alex Jones did was spread lies and those lies made people believe violence was justified, but that’s still not inviting violence.
GokuBeatsSuperMan
This happens frequently, some news outlet will post a fake story and people will get up in arms and do horrible things. Still not illegal.
Solarrays
his shitty lies motivated shittier people to act against sandy hook victims, gun nuts sent death threats for the "hoax".
Solarrays
Oh, not just sent threats, but actively stalked and doxxed to the point of moving several times. All because of lies.
Goryofa
He gestured that Mueller should be shot by one of his viewers. That's the most recent and final straw, I believe.
MIKEtheGuyDude
Should be =/= shoot him because I said.
Goryofa
Pretty baffling you made it all the way to the send button thinking this was a good point.
Withallduerespect
PizzaGate is a good example.Basically said that Hillary was running a child sex dungeon out of a restaurant & some dude showed up with guns.
thiscommentwillselfdestruct
Did Alex jones instruct people to arm themselves and go confront this pizza place?
spammer206
I don't remember all the details but you can just google Pizzagate and decide for yourself.
thiscommentwillselfdestruct
I already know. The answer is no, he did not instruct anyone to do that.
robofist194
No.
Dionysus187
https://people.com/crime/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawsuit-hearing/
thiscommentwillselfdestruct
Again, he did not instruct anyone to make threats or harass anyone.
GElliot
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distortedlens
I'm leaving a comment only because I can't favourite your comment
petruzzia112
This is a heaping pile of shit. All of this is opinionated and not based on true facts. If people get offended, stop reading or listening!
gorillaClutch
Yeah the stuff jones was spouting and encouraging his followers to do is the perfect example of "yelling fire in a crowded theater"
HalfOpenSkies
Stop using the fire example, it was used to justify censorship in WW1.
Traja01
Hi, I'm a lawyer and I hate Alex Jones and everything he stands for. His speech would receive 1st amen protection. But it's irrelevant.
CairoLen
No one is preventing him from speaking, or jailing him for his words. He still has his website.
Traja01
Yea I know, I'm not disagreeing with that. His speech is protected, but 1st amen protections are irrelevant to this situation.
ISavePrettyGirlsInMyFavorites
Including the incitement clause? Because he urged his followers to go after Sandy Hook parents
Traja01
Including the incitement doctrine. I can find the opinion if the wiki doesn't do it for you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hess_v._Indiana
Traja01
Regardless, though, I'm not sure why we're talking about whether his speech does/doesn't receive 1st amen protection. It's irrelevant.
daguq
And yet you have the Cheeto-in-Chief using Twitter to threaten entire countries with violence.
thalass
I also think he should be removed for the same reason. His personal account if not the official POTUS one
datma
Such an embarrassment.
Tovarish1013
Lololol. Would be hillarious if Twitter banned him.
skyshadow
Oh no, threating with violence, but sending unlimited drone strikes is fine now?
deathbymonkeys
You are an idiot
labmonkey4life
Did they say something incorrect?
NoFudge
How qbout "cheeto-in-chief"? Since when is it ok to mock peoples appearances. Also, all presidents have threatened other violent governments
deathbymonkeys
I did not call them an idiot due to the cheeto-in-chief comment. I actually find it amusing. Thus proving their idiocy.
labmonkey4life
True, it's not OK to mock people's appearance. However, and I realize this doesn't technically work as a legitimate argument, Trump mocks
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
Twitter will never remove that gold mine. They'd sooner petition for the pres. nuke button be moved next to the retweet.
Madethisusernameforonereason
Twitter will never dump him. He makes them too much money. Is even possible he single handedly saved their bottom line.
MichaelHames
He literally brings them at least an estimated 2 billion dollars in revenue
faqurug
Yet he brought peace to 2 countries at war...
daguq
What's that? Which countries did he bring peace to?
faqurug
I know CNN probably didn't tell you this since it makes Trump look good, but have you heard about North and South Korea?
daguq
http://www.foxnews.com/category/world/conflicts/north-korea.html
Chainhealer
Twitter hasn't removed Jones either.
bingebammer
There's a continuing shit storm from the alt right getting 24h banned every time they spam their racist shit on Twitter. Funny af
Traja01
#2 is irrelevant to this whole thing, and in any event Jones' statements would not qualify under the Brandenburg test.
whatwhonow
Actually they would. But thanks for playing!
Traja01
No, they wouldn't, at least not any statements I've seen from him.
whatwhonow
Yes, they would.
Traja01
Well this is productive. I'm just going to go on with my day and you can continue to be wrong. Have fun.
AstroTibs
This is true. But it makes people stumble in their moral crusade so they're going to downvote and ignore you.
MrJaunty
The First Amendment isn't even in question here. All it does is protect from government censorship. It has nothing to do with businesses.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Thank you! I was about to mentn this as well since AJ wqs removed from private entities, not by the government
JakefromStateFarmTx
Do you think this is in the same category as telling NFL players they can’t kneel during the national anthem? business telling an employee?
DarthLabradoodle
1/* Not quite. The players are employees. They have certain rights under law and contract as employees. I don't know the law or their
DarthLabradoodle
2/* contracts cover the kneeling or not. Platform users are product, not employees. Alex Jones was taken off the shelf at Google, etc
DarthLabradoodle
3/* Google, etc. are within their legal rights to do so. When vast monopolies exercise their legal rights in a way that violates social
DavidBrooker
That gets complicated inasmuch as the President is weighing in on it, it becomes a 1st Ammendment issue. If it were just the NFL, they'd 1/2
DavidBrooker
have some right to be draconian, backwards idiots. 2/2
trubblebot
I disagree with the NFL's decision, never claimed they violated 1st amendment rights. I exercise my disapproval by not watching NFL games.
Tairu8
Essentially yes. I personally think the NFL SHOULD let them do it as it’s not harming anyone or advocating harming anyone but as a business
Tairu8
they’re allowed to tell their employees not to engage in actions that hurt the company’s image, which the kneeling eventually did.
beep0boop
On the other hand, comments from the president indicated that some sort of retribution would happen if the NFL did not act to suppress the
CliffWestern
That is not a perfect analogy from a legal standpoint but setting that aside. Yes and I am capable of exercising my speech to disapprove 1
CliffWestern
of the NFL. 2
apercent
Yeah the businesses have the power to do anything they want, and silence anyone they please. It's right here in the Constitution
MrJaunty
If Americans took the time to actually learn theur laws and regulations, there'd be a lot less confusion in the country.
GPLink
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences
driverAnimal
Tell that to the football players taking a knee ...
CliffWestern
I missed the part where the government came in an punished the NFL
wadatahmydamie
https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2018/05/30/donald-trump-and-the-nfl a government official used his position to bully the NFL.
driverAnimal
I meant what can and cannot be said or done at work , fuckwit
CliffWestern
Your argument is still stupid. Anything can be said. Business can respond. So can fans. Welcome to a free society snowflake.
wadatahmydamie
The government intervened in this case. https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2018/05/30/donald-trump-and-the-nfl
wadatahmydamie
I see you know you’re wrong, but you’ve got nothing of value to say.
RecurringNightmare
well it should matter here, because those big corporations control communication today, so you should be able to use them without having to>
RecurringNightmare
>forgo some of your human rights by having to accept their stupid terms of service...i mean, alex jones is a fuckign asshole, but they only>
RecurringNightmare
>banned him because of public pressure...normally their standpoint is quite idiotic...if someone denies the holocaust thats okay...but if i>
RecurringNightmare
>call such a person names i get banned because insults are forbidden...their terms of service are just idiotic...<<<
ISavePrettyGirlsInMyFavorites
Tell that to the fuckwits saying that this is against he first amendment.
Zegot
as expected they don't actually know what they are talking about. just screaming emotionally.
Cheknya
Arguing with those people isn't worth it.
FireElemental
I'd tell them to read the First Amendment but the key work there is "read".
DarthLabradoodle
1/* The first amendment limits the government. Free speech is a (previously) broadly held social value. They are restricting free speech in
DarthLabradoodle
their businesses. Don't like it? Talk to your representatives about breaking up the monopolies at Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc.
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Those businesses still promote equally asinine bullshit from plenty of other voices, why pick on Alex Jones?
MrJaunty
If Americans took the time to actually learn their laws and regulations, there'd be a lot less confusion in the country.
BecauseRonCadillacIsFrickinEpic
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Shame America has such a shitty education system, though that's probably by design at this point
ctzn07
what law? much like any store or restaurant, website hosts can kick any customer out that is disturbing their business.
NikitaTokmakov
Because 2 gay frogs wanted to buy a cake from a small business owner
LaforgeMRA
BecauseRonCadillacIsFrickinEpic
Again, how prophetic are the Simpsons...
Rryyt
So then it's okay to ban black people from fox news? Is it okay for countries to ban people because they are gay?
Iseeairplanesalldaylong
Well its a good thing that would never apply to baking a wedding cake.
Traja01
Different things are different. Weird, right?
GoatTickler
No, first amendment protects your right to free speech from everyone.
TheDeanofLean
Lol you have Google, you should know better
MeloszKoz
It does NOT protect you from getting banned for promoting hate/violence from private establishments. He won't be punished for things 1/2
MeloszKoz
he's said by the law and no rights were infringed upon by a private organization deciding to ban him from their platforms for his conduct.
TheAccursedHamster
Oh hey, another dude who doesbt understand what freedom of speech is.
GoatTickler
You can't use force to stop anyone from speaking without infringing on their rights. That doesn't mean you have to provide a platform.