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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-senate/wikileaks-likely-knew-it-helped-russian-intelligence-in-2016-senate-report-says-idUSKCN25E1US
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/18/manafort-worked-with-russian-intel-officer-who-may-have-been-involved-in-dnc-hack-senate-panel-says-397597
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/bipartisan-senate-report-describes-2016-trump-campaign-eager-accept-help-n1237002
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/18/bipartisan-senate-report-describes-2016-trump-campaign-eager-to-accept-help-from-foreign-power.html
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/18/this-is-what-collusion-looks-like-gop-led-senate-report-far-more-devastating-than-mueller-probe/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/senate-made-criminal-referral-trump-jr-bannon-kushner-two-others-n1237155
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/08/rohrabacher-russia-putin-2016/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/30/george-papadopoulos-timeline-trump-campaign-adviser-russia-links
Putin was not dumb enough to send actual Russian government officials to meet with Trump's team (which would be obvious collusion), instead he sent non-government Russian nationals with Kremlin links who acted as intermediaries, this is a "cover your ass" move. after knowing this, if your thought process is "well they couldnt prosecute Trump for meeting with non-government people, so the Trump admin is not suspicious at all and im not worried and this is a nothingburger" then you're just being partisan and willfully obtuse, risking national security to advance your own domestic goals
TheThirstyMoose
And absolutely nothing will happen as a result...
EdwardEH
The first 15 pages of the report are very juicy. I haven't thoroughly perused the remaining 940.pages yet.
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
May they rot behind bars
BlowOnItAndStickItIn
I showed my super racist, maga loving, mom excerpts of the senate report pdf. She said it was fake news drummed up by the dems. Ffs
Jace99
Trump or America. There is no middle ground. He’s guilty of espionage at the very least. If you’re with him, you are anti-America. Traitors
ScuseMeWhileIWhipThisOut
#TRE45ON
WhyWeDoThis
Does it matter? They will roam free and common person has to struggle for everything. An organized crime syndicate and police r same people
Nlchacon
Collusion col·lu·sion
/kəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat deceive others.
jjjack007
And you right, the really frighting thing is , 40% of Americans are not only single digit IQ idiot, but real KKK potential !
NateintheNorth
Sounds like exactly what it was.
Jace99
We still don’t know what he said to Putin in their private meeting, but we can assume espionage at the least otherwise why no note taker?
xmaneds
@TheGhostofElizabethShue
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Yup. You’d think it’d please me but it doesn’t. They successfully kicked the can all the way to election.
gmcsorley365
And...Nothing will happen
Caramster
BUT HEY, DRAIN THE SWAMP! MAGA2020 WOOOO!!
big12rich
Now can he be impeached
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
Well he's actually already impeached, he just wasn't removed from office.
londonosierra2000
Could it be that republicans are waking up to the way they got played? No, they're to proud to admit they're dumb.
squintish
It's not that they're proud, they just care for nothing but staying in power at all cost. They don't even like Trump but they are willing ->
squintish
to put us all through this pain to benefit themselves. Their next move will be to wreck what's left of the economy as they are voted out.
Jonnymarre
That bi-partisan committee hates Trump!
TheGIFingtree
StarscreamAndHutch
This is great and all. So what’s going to happen? Nothing as long as turtle is the senate.
EggFooYung
Vote him out on 3 November, fire Bill Barr 20 January, and file charges 21 January.
StarscreamAndHutch
StarscreamAndHutch
We have to survive whatever fucking mess he makes between nov 3 and Jan 20. He will start wwiii with Iran to fuck those libs.
GnomeDeGuerre
Make that a drum beat. "File charges jan. 21!!"
Kirj4v4
I'm usually an optimist, but I feel like so much can happen between now and then...
UnculturedPotato
KenjiKando
There it is. Honestly, this should just come standard for all investigations these days.
isgoodname
It’s infuriating. Will any of the GOP take a stand? Are any of them brave enough to fight for our country against an obviously hostile enemy
orangeyougladididntsaypoop
so like, what will actually happen with this?
NightlyReaper
Nothing.
orangeyougladididntsaypoop
exactly my point. Nothing will be done, even though this twat should be in jail. if anything is done, it is too late
Justaguy85
And then what? Outcry and condemnation gets you nowhere.
GnomeDeGuerre
Vote and write, file charges jan. 21.
mardukkur
And then vote.
ConstantBitRate
Been voting for 30 years... "just one party all giving the same gifts" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIXwRztIyqE
Bojovnik84
Yay. We sat on it and did nothing until we knew he was going to lose for sure. All of them need to go.
DriverIRQnotlessOrEqual
Trump could openly say he’s a despot and had Russian help and nothing would happen since he owns the Senate and Judicial system
Camelspotting
The spineless cowards don't even want him.
ApplebeesOfficial
Its ok though, I heard he learned his lesson
Harryteeters
It never fuckin ends with this guy
Neoeon
Consistency is his one virtue.
Commentsaboutyourusername
I thought it would teeter out but no. He harrys on day by day
NursePaulFlowers
So what happens
eion85
We vote
zobPilot
Nothing, same as all the other times.
ImgursLibertarian
If you vote for Trump or Biden? Same thing. Status quo. Vote Jo Jorgensen.
idiosamatik
ew
BlueberryQuickjet
Probably several more years of investigations and trying to convict various people of various crimes. Lots depend on November results.
PhiAlphaFuckMachine
Nothing until you vote him out of office.
imakeeper
Democrats seem very confident about the upcoming election, but remember that no incumbent president has lost an election since 1992. VOTE!!!
Scaramucci
No president has turned his administration into this shitshow before, in the entire US history. I don't think historical precedence is ->
Scaramucci
->enough to predict what's going to happen. This is uncharted territory. I don't think he'll get reelected but I might be wrong.
imakeeper
The vast majority of people didn't think he would get elected in 2016 either.
SwagicalYololord
Recent polls only have Biden up 4% over Trump meaning if you take margin of error into account, Trump could actually be up 2%! V O T E!
Neoeon
Smell that? Smells like high treason.
tinyfootprints
It has smelled that way since Day 1. Nothing's going to happen about it, though. :/
xmaneds
well, technically he WAS impeached.
tinyfootprints
True. And, sadly, that amounted to a big fat nothing. The Senate really dropped the ball on that one.
glitterdemon
No no, that’s teen spirit. It looks like high treason.
amoeba15
Hey, stay away from my collection of 90s deodorant brands.
Doomgriever
GeneralBrandIroh
The Nirvana this guy
VinnieJonesDiary
It's weird, all those trump supporters are very quiet right now. Give it a day before they figure out how to dismiss this.
BojackHorsemeat
No fan of Trump, but reading through this... Ugh, it's not nearly the story it's made out to be. No one has actually been convicted of /1
BojackHorsemeat
doing any Russia Russia Russia things, even here the charge and conviction are basically for perjury only. Which is a bit weird.
Camelspotting
Fuck off with this BS.
CaldariBob
I'M NO FAn OF TrumP, bUT...
BojackHorsemeat
This sentiment is common in actual left wing media. Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone is particularly good on it.
VinnieJonesDiary
"No fan of trump" you say that but all your comments attack the left and support trump and his regime.
BojackHorsemeat
No, I attack Democrats. They are not left, they are right. Trump is extreme right.
BojackHorsemeat
I strongly support universal healthcare, jobs guarantee, high taxes. I just try and be rational in critiquing Trump.
BojackHorsemeat
Not *everything* he does is the end of the world. He gets flack even for positive things like killing the TPP.
VinnieJonesDiary
Well at least we agree on something. You are still supporting trump though.
BojackHorsemeat
Attacking Dems is not supporting Trump, at least not when you see them as only marginally better.
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
Doesn't matter to his supporters
HsuDoNihm
Doesn't matter to his *treasonous supporters.
Jarjarthejedi
Well, yeah. What do they care if Trump colludes with Russia. He stands against their greatest enemy after all, fellow Americans!
Jarjarthejedi
Hornsoup
Best part is comments show his people read opinion as fact. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-russia-collusion-senate-gregg-jarrett
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
If anything it just shows "they are right". The only solution is to vote him out of office, not to try and convince the 'unconvincables'.
Gababu
or you know, they're traitors too for willingly supporting one? who are we talking about? oh yea the actual traitors proved by history.
UmmonPrime
doesn't matter to the senate either
GigiDundas
But it's their report, I'm deeply confused.
DarkRedCape
Senate is GOP controlled. They had the chance to remove him after his impeachment, they didn’t. And won’t this time if it comes to it.
puffyjacket69
I sent a link and screen shots of this republican report to my mom. She said "you cent believe everything you read on the internet".
puffyjacket69
Then she sent me links to her friends Facebook pages claiming Biden was Satan.
wylkyn
Even more reason to vote for him. An archangel for president, even a fallen one, would be massive! Mess with the USA, go straight to Hell.
theirarefourlights
Our parents keep succumbing to every danger on the internet they told us about when we were kids. Scams, conspiracies, propaganda....
spiceass9000
“It’s a fake news hoax” “it’s liberal agenda attacking an honest guy” “there’s no actual evidence” help me with the rest guys
thereitis101
Nailed it
Scaramucci
I've tried to debate them and every single time I prove to them there was collusion their argument becomes "he wasn't impeached for it so ->
Scaramucci
->that means there was no collusion". They're completely delusional and unwilling to listen to reason.
spiceass9000
Yup. I’m not even bringing this new stuff coming back up to friends and family that are supporters. Not even worth it
Metalbawkses
But he was impeached. The Senate just decided to ignore it
Scaramucci
Yes, but for a different scandal. But, see, they have different excuses for that one. They always move the goalposts.
PerthAussieMike
Sounds like treason to me.
Commentsaboutyourusername
Even Mike from Perth can see the obvious all the way from Down Unda
AvocadoHouse
No no... trump is an undercover agent and has now found a loophole that he will close after his 5th term in office. Duh
kingbudo101
bold you to assume he could even live long enough to last two terms
kingbudo101
Nah Its not treason. Treason is described very specifically as aiding a hostile nation while at war with said nation. Far too many people
kingbudo101
incorrectly think treason is just anything that goes against the best interests of the country, it is not.
METROlD
I want to see him go to jail SOOO BAD. I wish that was an option in the voting booths. Oooh lookie! They have a guillotine option! ch-check!
Bystandr
He has plenty of other crimes he is guilty of. Like violating the constitution by hobbling USPS where people in rural areas are at risk of
Bystandr
not getting their meds because they cant afford UPS/FedEx etc etc. Get him and his swamp buddies in a RICO suit and throw away the key.
cepacolusmaximus
JimmiRustler
Good thing for trump American won't ever hold him accountable
TurtIeproof
He already publicly said two acts of treason: siding with Russia over US intelligence agencies and he revealed the location of our nuke subs
lovingspace
I say we arrest them without delay, try them, jail them for a very long time, and run a 2020 election with a decent republican candidate.
arthurdent
Decent republican candidates don't exist
Eleshar24
Disgusting. Who would want to dig out McCain from his grave? You should be ashamed.
TerryCrews
I call dibs on the left tibia!
Zappit
I don’t think Mitt wants to do it again.
lovingspace
Oh he would. He would.
JStengah
It's treason in the way most people use it, but legally we have be at war with the enemy being aided to be treason. Charging Trump with
JStengah
treason would be seen as declaring war on Russia.
LetumComplexo
For civilians* military law is different IIRC.
JStengah
Not that I know of. It has more laws about aiding an enemy, but treason is the same. The last conviction for treason in the US was in 1952.
johneventually1
Well he's broken a few laws, I think that's fairly evident
PangolinBan
It's not, not according to the Constitution which (very narrowly) defines treason for the US. Doesn't mean it's not bad or illegal, just 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 not treason specifically.
Retrikaethan
they are aiding russia in their attempts to fuck with the usa. i would call that treason as it hits both parts of its legal definition.
PangolinBan
Not until Russia is officially declared an enemy of the USA, it doesn't.
ACSwineburne
Exactly, this is just your good ol' garden variety sedition... which is just treason, but without the war.
PangolinBan
Pretty much. Russia's not officially an enemy of the US, so it doesn't count. It's only a technicality, but the law's really nothing but 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 technicalities so here we are.
rkingesd365
Nornally, but tRump is the senate.
sundaymondayhippyday
Hornsoup
SgtLuftwaffles
Time to throw his powdery orange ass down a reactor shaft
NateintheNorth
...and hope he doesn't return with a fleet of ships. If he does, we'll need a scavenger and the nephew of the guy that threw him.
GerhardRammelhausen
*grandson
SgtLuftwaffles
And ALL of the plot armour
NewtGinGrinch
Do we know what the excuse for Manafort giving them voter polling data was? This significant to me.
Miller16of16
How is polling data sensitive info when news routinely report polling data? This all hinges on Russia being behind DNC hack, for which >
Miller16of16
still no solid evidence per head of Crowdstrike, the outfit that did the forensics.
Scaramucci
IIRC the Mueller report says we don't, but I'm not sure because it's been a while. I don't know if the Senate report says otherwise.
Commentsaboutyourusername
You're a mean one Mr. Newt
Pentjotal
He own the Russian lots of $ & they used it to manipulate social media in favor of Trump
OneDoesNotSimplyCreateACleverUsername
Manafort is a Russian agent who answers to Kremlin intelligence officers.
xmaneds
oh RIGHT, THAT excuse. yes, totally normal. proceed
mardukkur
He had no excuse, but the reason was so the IRA could micro target their online disinformation efforts.
xmaneds
note to everybody: "IRA" in this context is "Internet Research Agency" which is an arm of the Kremlin to manipulate online information
ahairyHoneymonster
Thanks for that. I thought "Clinton to outlaw potatoes!" was unlikely!
CaldariBob
I have to admit, I paused for a second there.
eion85
Are they even offering excuses anymore?
NewtGinGrinch
That was awhile ago though. How does it help GOP for them to have it?
BlueberryQuickjet
It helped in the 2016l election, giving the Russians better info to use in their influence operations.
barryleaper
there is a UK connection, the guy who created the "dossier" Steele? he worked with Cambridge analytica, they also worked on brexit 1/
barryleaper
they specialise on data mining and influencing elections
NewtGinGrinch
I don't understand how it doesn't prove collusion. GOP accuses the investigation to be a staging of a coup but they are doing it.
BlueberryQuickjet
The initial investigation was argued to be baseless, and the most loyl people to Trump have continued to say that regardless of the evidence
AlabasterSexington
If he ever gave an honest answer it would probably be
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norrinraddsboard
He is indebted to a Russian oligarch who is an unofficial Russian intelligence officer.
xmaneds
Derepaska?
norrinraddsboard
xmaneds
@NorrinRaddsBoard saw you on the street, lookin' good
norrinraddsboard
A herald's gotta do what a herald's gotta do :)