Feb 1, 2017 3:23 AM
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Korolev787
Not true. And the small amount of US forces in Iraq were invited to help advise against ISIL. I hate trump, too, but don't make stuff up.
Skhull
Huhu let's not go there in the first place. Derp.
Zainadin
Are you an idiot? So we leave now and everyone who died there did it for nothing?
Wollhaus
Maybe instead they'll not start to crack down on terrorism. Because that's why they're banned.
KillingTlme
Abandoning Iraq sounds like a great plan for helping terrorism.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
But...now I'll have to piss off a cartel if I wanna get my head sawed off with a knife!
BayazTheBenevolent
That's some low tier political bait, OP.
tauntology
What if I told you they are there for the US, not for Iraq?
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Why not both? Of course there wouldn't be anything to fix if it hadn't been broken first, but I don't think Iraq in its current state...
would be better off w/o US troops & contractors. If s.o. destroys a country & then attempts to fix it, it's wise to let them stay a while
CheshirePhoenix
Please, like we've ever bothered to ask permission to be in Iraq anyway.
NinjaCongo
Well you're pretty done over there anyways, aren't you?
temujin9
Does your "Grey Jedi code" say anything lying about politics for imaginary points? Is that allowed for teens who can't handle a whites load?
rockchalker73
complimentpin
Iraqi's can't come to the UK, but americans can come to iraq in tanks and with high powered rifles?
MagicMert
Pretty sure thats what iraq has wanted since America first invaded.
leavinit
Pulling out doesn't always work. #twss
RaptaGzus
That's why you suck.
imjusthereforthemoneynotyourbs
Phrasing
JuicyManFartsAgainstFeminism
TheHardestArtery
http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/New-Shirts/I-HOPE-YOUR-COUCH-PULLS-OUT-BECAUSE-I-DONT-T-SHIRT.htm
nemoe
That's what she said. (rubbing her belly with an oddly satisfactory grin)
SerialChillinSpree
The only time where having an 0 - 45 record is a good thing.
HillaryClintonsOverReaction
Isn't our military still there helping and training them?
IvanTheTesticleReturns
LOL
Humblecandy
Uhhh do you mean Iran? Because that's a whole different country entirely.
Blacklistedone
Nah, the news reports also mention Iraq wanting to reciprocate the ban. But the Iraq PM said that he wasn't going to b/c it would be stupid
windmiller4
So let me get this straight, Iran just banned Americans and there's no riots or protests? Weird
wingod
They're a bunch of xenophobes those bast ardent Iranians!
KarlderMarder
How do you know? Fox News?
TheToll
Didn't Obama withdraw all soldiers in 2011?
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
Hahahahahaha
RealebohaW
But that was more than 15 minutes ago, so everyone has forgotten.
EverSeeAnyonePutOnACondomWithACrowbar
Americans have been banned from Iraq for years... however, thanks to the military, we've been allowed to go for security purposes
UsernameAttempted
Um, no. I went there a few years ago, as a civilian.
Bricklemeyer
That's not true, it is (err, was) possible to go to Iraq with a tour group.
Finally a bipartisan consensus
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Cavalrysword
Ever wonder why the bi's are so partisan?
DukePaulAtreides
@OP Except Iraq explicitly announced they WEREN'T going to retaliate for the travel ban by doing this, so...this isn't true.
bart2pl
of course they won't they are under occupation of us forces, how could they ?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-iraq-idUSKBN15F238
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/iraq-parliament-approves-reciprocity-to-us-ban-234354
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-iraq-idUSKBN15F238 ?? Get yo' shit together, Iraq. As far as I can tell, those two>>
DrWhoTheHellAreYou
Iraq won't retaliate against President Trump's travel ban b/c it doesn't want to lose US backing in its battle against IS, Iraqi PM al-Abadi
>>lawmakers said it passed 2 days ago and the PM said today that no, they're not gonna do that
(Also, interestingly, one article has the PM saying it's not binding and another has the legislator saying it IS...did we just touch off>
>a Constitutional crisis in a *different* country?)
maelthra
The PM said -he- wouldn't retaliate. And he didn't. The Iraqi Parliament did.
CryptBeast
Parliament only recommended the ban. The PM declined. Case closed. OP is full of it.
I wasn't replying to the OP. I was replying to the comment I was replying to, which was wrong. Case closed.
He's right. The PM makes the final call, not the parliament.
No, he's not. 1) Iraq didn't announce they weren't going to retaliate. The PM announced that -he- wasn't going to retaliate. 1/2
McDonaldsSweetTea
Great... now my vacation to Iran is ruined. Guess I'll be going to Myrtle Beach again. :(
SidDelicious
Wrong- the Iraqi parliment voted to ban the U.S, but the Prime Minister said it was not going to happen becauase they need the troop support
ProjectKurtz
That's great.
Penii
OP is FAKE NEWS
To be fair, it could have been valid when OP posted it since the PM overturned the decision a day later.
If I pull out my troops will you die?
6Foot4FullOfMuscles
WRONG!! Because I do not have any facts to back up the beginning of this sentence..
Itanu
Selling alternate facts, 10 bucks a pop. Get yours today, sir.
BooBooKiTtyFunk
Also, we are US contractors that are supporting and training their military. They are paying us to be here...a lot.
nihilistdad
That describes also the tech professionals who got problems due to Trump's idiocy, link below:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/tech-sector-bosses-decry-trump-immigration-order-on-muslim-countries/
BlackwitchWizard
also...... they are not us, Summer, they are not us.
Also, the decision was made last night, by PM. He will not follow Pres Trump's lead. American's are still welcome.
JackBurtonME
Lol as are all spacemen
DivineRaptor
That's reassuring, I was worried I'd be stuck in orbit
Have fun landing there! Hope you believe in the correct deity!
doesitreallymatterintheend
In the exact correct manner if you run into ISIS.
boobcat
OMG PLEASE YES! JUST GET YOUR FUCKING MILITARY OUT OF EVERY COUNTRY BUT YOUR OWN!!!!!
handgrenade
So who cares about that "Helping to stop ISIS" thing?
DatDarthCaedus
Yes, because that totally wouldn't suck for regional stability and cause/risk massive regional wars in some places.
Krankenwagen606
Thats kind of how ISIS formed. (Not Archer's ISIS)
CoreyLee04
the caliphate was actually created in Saudi Arabia to go against the royal family but the royal family banished them to syria with funding.
AVoiceOfReason
Thanks for the clarification because I wouldn't have ever guessed.
beefstroganoff
This ISIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWjhxnVcmgg
d4mager
Always upovote Isis the band.
delpharseven
No ISIS was formed in the prisons of Iraq in the immediate aftermath of the US invasion.
Defhood
No, Hillary and Obama formed it.
worldstiniestviolin
Ok, but it was the sudden withdraw of a strong military presence and oversight that allowed them to grow to what they are.
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
It's how ISIS came to power
The moment the US bumbled into Iraq and implemented de-Ba'athification the emergence of ISIS became all but inevitable. Remember, ISIS 1/
has officially existed since Oct 13 2006. It's roots go back further, into the prisons of Abu Ghraib and Camp Bucca. The ground was 2/
prepared before the US invasion (going back to Desert Storm). This is why the world so opposed the invasion. It was clear to most of us 3/
YouWillNotLikeThis
ISIS came to power because the Syrian revolutions lost momentum. Had ASSade ben delt with early ISIS most likely wouldn't have had a vacume
*power vacume. To exspand in. Now we get to have both the shitty mass murdere ASSade and ISIS
OzmaAsimov
**power vacuum
*vacuum
gl0g
ISIS came to power due to the power vacuum the US caused in Iraq.
Isnt it funny how people extrapolate to protect the Obama administration.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034
rabidporcupines
As someone who works in oil and gas...a lot of Americans actually make a living in Iraq and Iran. Really GOOD pay too.
wellju
Yeah, killing all those civilians gets some people a really good pay now.
Flyndaran
Not all of them Halliburton investors either. ;)
Iran and US are partners in so many things and Im 99% sure no Iranian has committed terrorism in USA. The other around however, definately
stuart1965
Iraq yes. Iran not very likely.
LookingForWorkInColorado
*made
Schizamp
+1 fellow oil-and-gasshole
Janusha
OP is just fucking dumb and missed the point by a mile.
Beverlyhillscopisonrightnow
You bean. . Just like those people who made a good deal of money in the US?
Garzhuk
Welfare isn't really good money though.
Welfare is full of lazy Americans, not immigrants. Immigrants don't qualify for welfare unless they're already contributing to the economy.
Mentok
Balderdash, we need coal jobs! And milk men and ice delivery men.
Nobody NEEDS coal jobs.
ecodude
Tell that to eastern Kentucky. If you say "black lung is bad" they'll come down in you like a ton of bricks. Coal is more important thanLife
I know.... Margareth Thatcher in Britain closed down all the coal in the 80s. Fucked up alot of peoples jobs. But COAL isnt the future.
Jobs don't matter if the job isn't productive and is probably going to be the death of you.
for some people. It's absolutely insane.
Spongybunny
I do like the idea of milk men though. Who wants to go to the store every few days cause you're out of milk?
poopwindowofopportunity
My house still has a milk man door thingy. I'm in.
Just as long as it's not that creepy fucking Silk guy
Imissharambesoomuch
I like the idea of my milkman being a super harass traversing through gunfight to bring me milk
rollercostarican
there's a grocery store right next to the train station and next to my house. And a bodega down the block. Would i have to pay him extra?
Yanov
I'm genuinely not sure how milkmen stopped being a thing.
NintendoSupport
You can order groceries online. They didn't stop, they expanded the market.
scifinovelist
I think it was a price issue. Do you really want to pay a delivery charge for milk and milk alone, when you have to buy other stuff anyway?
Milkmen also used to do orange juice, yogurt etc.
DocStrangeLuv
Great, then the Iranians can continue to take over! Aweeesome.
TheGhostOfHarambe
and Iraq has a lot of Shia religious sites. 3/3
I would rather see it split up between Jordan, Syria (if they can ever restabilize) and Iran. More than half of Iraq is Shia, 2/3
Considering that Iraq was never a country before the Treaty of Sevres and is actually a mix between Arab and Iranian culture, 1/2
USA has fucked them over royally and Im talking recently, they havent attacked anyone US wasnt glad they did but you call them the bad guys
Yea they never attacked anyone. Not sure Sunnis or Syrians would agree with that
AS I SAID they havent attacked anyone the US isnt happy about. and Hezbolah is not Iran
Except for Kurds, but Kurds got it from all sides (Turkey, Iraq, Iran). And the ways in which they fought back were controversial, to say...
the least. I remember when the world was horrified by PKK terror attacks in Turkey. Now they're the good guys because they're fighting ISIS
Hezbolah takes orders directly from Iran. Including slaughtering Syrian civilians and secular rebels. Just stop. The Iranian govt is terribl
Hezbollah is currently fighting ISIS. Even al-Qaeda is fighting ISIS. And many of these groups would be in no position to fight anyone if...
Korolev787
Not true. And the small amount of US forces in Iraq were invited to help advise against ISIL. I hate trump, too, but don't make stuff up.
Skhull
Huhu let's not go there in the first place. Derp.
Zainadin
Are you an idiot? So we leave now and everyone who died there did it for nothing?
Wollhaus
Maybe instead they'll not start to crack down on terrorism. Because that's why they're banned.
KillingTlme
Abandoning Iraq sounds like a great plan for helping terrorism.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
But...now I'll have to piss off a cartel if I wanna get my head sawed off with a knife!
BayazTheBenevolent
That's some low tier political bait, OP.
tauntology
What if I told you they are there for the US, not for Iraq?
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Why not both? Of course there wouldn't be anything to fix if it hadn't been broken first, but I don't think Iraq in its current state...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
would be better off w/o US troops & contractors. If s.o. destroys a country & then attempts to fix it, it's wise to let them stay a while
CheshirePhoenix
Please, like we've ever bothered to ask permission to be in Iraq anyway.
NinjaCongo
Well you're pretty done over there anyways, aren't you?
temujin9
Does your "Grey Jedi code" say anything lying about politics for imaginary points? Is that allowed for teens who can't handle a whites load?
rockchalker73
complimentpin
Iraqi's can't come to the UK, but americans can come to iraq in tanks and with high powered rifles?
MagicMert
Pretty sure thats what iraq has wanted since America first invaded.
leavinit
Pulling out doesn't always work. #twss
RaptaGzus
That's why you suck.
imjusthereforthemoneynotyourbs
Phrasing
JuicyManFartsAgainstFeminism
TheHardestArtery
http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/New-Shirts/I-HOPE-YOUR-COUCH-PULLS-OUT-BECAUSE-I-DONT-T-SHIRT.htm
nemoe
That's what she said. (rubbing her belly with an oddly satisfactory grin)
SerialChillinSpree
The only time where having an 0 - 45 record is a good thing.
HillaryClintonsOverReaction
Isn't our military still there helping and training them?
IvanTheTesticleReturns
LOL
Humblecandy
Uhhh do you mean Iran? Because that's a whole different country entirely.
Blacklistedone
Nah, the news reports also mention Iraq wanting to reciprocate the ban. But the Iraq PM said that he wasn't going to b/c it would be stupid
windmiller4
So let me get this straight, Iran just banned Americans and there's no riots or protests? Weird
wingod
They're a bunch of xenophobes those bast ardent Iranians!
KarlderMarder
How do you know? Fox News?
TheToll
Didn't Obama withdraw all soldiers in 2011?
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
Hahahahahaha
RealebohaW
But that was more than 15 minutes ago, so everyone has forgotten.
EverSeeAnyonePutOnACondomWithACrowbar
Americans have been banned from Iraq for years... however, thanks to the military, we've been allowed to go for security purposes
UsernameAttempted
Um, no. I went there a few years ago, as a civilian.
Bricklemeyer
That's not true, it is (err, was) possible to go to Iraq with a tour group.
Greyjedi5653
Finally a bipartisan consensus
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Cavalrysword
Ever wonder why the bi's are so partisan?
DukePaulAtreides
@OP Except Iraq explicitly announced they WEREN'T going to retaliate for the travel ban by doing this, so...this isn't true.
bart2pl
of course they won't they are under occupation of us forces, how could they ?
DukePaulAtreides
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-iraq-idUSKBN15F238
Greyjedi5653
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/iraq-parliament-approves-reciprocity-to-us-ban-234354
DukePaulAtreides
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-iraq-idUSKBN15F238 ?? Get yo' shit together, Iraq. As far as I can tell, those two>>
DrWhoTheHellAreYou
Iraq won't retaliate against President Trump's travel ban b/c it doesn't want to lose US backing in its battle against IS, Iraqi PM al-Abadi
DukePaulAtreides
>>lawmakers said it passed 2 days ago and the PM said today that no, they're not gonna do that
DukePaulAtreides
(Also, interestingly, one article has the PM saying it's not binding and another has the legislator saying it IS...did we just touch off>
DukePaulAtreides
>a Constitutional crisis in a *different* country?)
maelthra
The PM said -he- wouldn't retaliate. And he didn't. The Iraqi Parliament did.
CryptBeast
Parliament only recommended the ban. The PM declined. Case closed. OP is full of it.
maelthra
I wasn't replying to the OP. I was replying to the comment I was replying to, which was wrong. Case closed.
CryptBeast
He's right. The PM makes the final call, not the parliament.
maelthra
No, he's not. 1) Iraq didn't announce they weren't going to retaliate. The PM announced that -he- wasn't going to retaliate. 1/2
McDonaldsSweetTea
Great... now my vacation to Iran is ruined. Guess I'll be going to Myrtle Beach again. :(
SidDelicious
Wrong- the Iraqi parliment voted to ban the U.S, but the Prime Minister said it was not going to happen becauase they need the troop support
ProjectKurtz
That's great.
Penii
OP is FAKE NEWS
SidDelicious
To be fair, it could have been valid when OP posted it since the PM overturned the decision a day later.
IvanTheTesticleReturns
If I pull out my troops will you die?
6Foot4FullOfMuscles
WRONG!! Because I do not have any facts to back up the beginning of this sentence..
Itanu
Selling alternate facts, 10 bucks a pop. Get yours today, sir.
BooBooKiTtyFunk
Also, we are US contractors that are supporting and training their military. They are paying us to be here...a lot.
nihilistdad
That describes also the tech professionals who got problems due to Trump's idiocy, link below:
nihilistdad
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/tech-sector-bosses-decry-trump-immigration-order-on-muslim-countries/
BlackwitchWizard
also...... they are not us, Summer, they are not us.
BooBooKiTtyFunk
Also, the decision was made last night, by PM. He will not follow Pres Trump's lead. American's are still welcome.
JackBurtonME
Lol as are all spacemen
DivineRaptor
That's reassuring, I was worried I'd be stuck in orbit
JackBurtonME
Have fun landing there! Hope you believe in the correct deity!
doesitreallymatterintheend
In the exact correct manner if you run into ISIS.
boobcat
OMG PLEASE YES! JUST GET YOUR FUCKING MILITARY OUT OF EVERY COUNTRY BUT YOUR OWN!!!!!
handgrenade
So who cares about that "Helping to stop ISIS" thing?
DatDarthCaedus
Yes, because that totally wouldn't suck for regional stability and cause/risk massive regional wars in some places.
Krankenwagen606
Thats kind of how ISIS formed. (Not Archer's ISIS)
CoreyLee04
the caliphate was actually created in Saudi Arabia to go against the royal family but the royal family banished them to syria with funding.
AVoiceOfReason
Thanks for the clarification because I wouldn't have ever guessed.
beefstroganoff
This ISIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWjhxnVcmgg
d4mager
Always upovote Isis the band.
delpharseven
No ISIS was formed in the prisons of Iraq in the immediate aftermath of the US invasion.
Defhood
No, Hillary and Obama formed it.
worldstiniestviolin
Krankenwagen606
Ok, but it was the sudden withdraw of a strong military presence and oversight that allowed them to grow to what they are.
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
It's how ISIS came to power
delpharseven
The moment the US bumbled into Iraq and implemented de-Ba'athification the emergence of ISIS became all but inevitable. Remember, ISIS 1/
delpharseven
has officially existed since Oct 13 2006. It's roots go back further, into the prisons of Abu Ghraib and Camp Bucca. The ground was 2/
delpharseven
prepared before the US invasion (going back to Desert Storm). This is why the world so opposed the invasion. It was clear to most of us 3/
YouWillNotLikeThis
ISIS came to power because the Syrian revolutions lost momentum. Had ASSade ben delt with early ISIS most likely wouldn't have had a vacume
YouWillNotLikeThis
*power vacume. To exspand in. Now we get to have both the shitty mass murdere ASSade and ISIS
OzmaAsimov
**power vacuum
OzmaAsimov
*vacuum
gl0g
ISIS came to power due to the power vacuum the US caused in Iraq.
Krankenwagen606
Isnt it funny how people extrapolate to protect the Obama administration.
YouWillNotLikeThis
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034
rabidporcupines
As someone who works in oil and gas...a lot of Americans actually make a living in Iraq and Iran. Really GOOD pay too.
wellju
Yeah, killing all those civilians gets some people a really good pay now.
Flyndaran
Not all of them Halliburton investors either. ;)
boobcat
Iran and US are partners in so many things and Im 99% sure no Iranian has committed terrorism in USA. The other around however, definately
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stuart1965
Iraq yes. Iran not very likely.
LookingForWorkInColorado
*made
Schizamp
+1 fellow oil-and-gasshole
Janusha
OP is just fucking dumb and missed the point by a mile.
Beverlyhillscopisonrightnow
You bean. . Just like those people who made a good deal of money in the US?
Garzhuk
Welfare isn't really good money though.
maelthra
Welfare is full of lazy Americans, not immigrants. Immigrants don't qualify for welfare unless they're already contributing to the economy.
Mentok
Balderdash, we need coal jobs! And milk men and ice delivery men.
Janusha
Nobody NEEDS coal jobs.
ecodude
Tell that to eastern Kentucky. If you say "black lung is bad" they'll come down in you like a ton of bricks. Coal is more important thanLife
Janusha
I know.... Margareth Thatcher in Britain closed down all the coal in the 80s. Fucked up alot of peoples jobs. But COAL isnt the future.
ecodude
Jobs don't matter if the job isn't productive and is probably going to be the death of you.
ecodude
for some people. It's absolutely insane.
Spongybunny
I do like the idea of milk men though. Who wants to go to the store every few days cause you're out of milk?
poopwindowofopportunity
My house still has a milk man door thingy. I'm in.
Mentok
Just as long as it's not that creepy fucking Silk guy
Imissharambesoomuch
I like the idea of my milkman being a super harass traversing through gunfight to bring me milk
rollercostarican
there's a grocery store right next to the train station and next to my house. And a bodega down the block. Would i have to pay him extra?
Yanov
I'm genuinely not sure how milkmen stopped being a thing.
NintendoSupport
You can order groceries online. They didn't stop, they expanded the market.
scifinovelist
I think it was a price issue. Do you really want to pay a delivery charge for milk and milk alone, when you have to buy other stuff anyway?
Yanov
Milkmen also used to do orange juice, yogurt etc.
DocStrangeLuv
Great, then the Iranians can continue to take over! Aweeesome.
TheGhostOfHarambe
and Iraq has a lot of Shia religious sites. 3/3
TheGhostOfHarambe
I would rather see it split up between Jordan, Syria (if they can ever restabilize) and Iran. More than half of Iraq is Shia, 2/3
TheGhostOfHarambe
Considering that Iraq was never a country before the Treaty of Sevres and is actually a mix between Arab and Iranian culture, 1/2
boobcat
USA has fucked them over royally and Im talking recently, they havent attacked anyone US wasnt glad they did but you call them the bad guys
DocStrangeLuv
Yea they never attacked anyone. Not sure Sunnis or Syrians would agree with that
boobcat
AS I SAID they havent attacked anyone the US isnt happy about. and Hezbolah is not Iran
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Except for Kurds, but Kurds got it from all sides (Turkey, Iraq, Iran). And the ways in which they fought back were controversial, to say...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
the least. I remember when the world was horrified by PKK terror attacks in Turkey. Now they're the good guys because they're fighting ISIS
DocStrangeLuv
Hezbolah takes orders directly from Iran. Including slaughtering Syrian civilians and secular rebels. Just stop. The Iranian govt is terribl
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Hezbollah is currently fighting ISIS. Even al-Qaeda is fighting ISIS. And many of these groups would be in no position to fight anyone if...