Considering how many priests are arrested for sexual assault each year I would much prefer a fake christian to a real one. I understand lying to get ahead. I do not understand a deity forgiving someone for raping a child. All gods are burning in hell, I think it is time the devout start looking to goddesses for guidance.
Lying about being Christian so that other people lying about being Christian will continue to support him. Who are the optics for exactly when no one actually believes it? If he was just honest and said he doesn't give a fuck about that person and he'd do it again if he had the opportunity, the exact same people who bought the "god's forgiveness" bullshit would still be on his side because none of it is about God or forgiveness for any of them.
Either he is so abusive and horrible that the thought of dying in one of the most horrific-possible ways was still considered better than to live in the same world as he is, or he had her killed.
I think regardless of which one it was, he should probably be removed from power and go to jail... for life.
just an assumption, i feel like if you're a scummy politician having someone killed, you probably want it to look like an accident? falling out of windows, drowning, tripping down the stairs, etc. self-immolation is typically reserved for statement-making as i understand it
There's security footage that shows she was alone - https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/autopsy-tony-gonzales-santos-aviles-blood-alcohol-21941078.php "Video from a home security system shows that Santos-Aviles was alone in her backyard when she ignited herself. She tried to extinguish the flames by rolling on the ground and then crawled to a faucet and poured water on herself with a garden house, police reports say."
"She then walked through parts of her home, leaving a trail of blood and burned skin in a bedroom and hallway before she collapsed on the front porch, where first responders found her shortly after 9:30 p.m. on Sept. 13"
Based on what? Why would she immolate herself? Did someone credible witness watch her douse herself in gasoline and then light herself on fire while saying, "This is my choice!"?
By self immolation? Women typically choose less violent means of suicide like overdose. Burning yourself to death has got to be about the most violent means of suicide imaginable
That isn't how it works. You don't need to hear back from God to know you have been forgiven. You just need to ask and you receive it. Literally how it works.
It's the best. Why being a conservative is so awesome. You can rape kids and just ask and all is forgiven. If people give you shit for raping kids you just point out how they are just godless demons that hate Jesus.
I don't know if he's a Catholic, but Catholics believe that Catholic priests have the power to convey God's forgiveness. I don't know how many Hail Mary's you have to say to atone for driving your subordinate to suicide by being a sex pest, but I'm sure they have a precedent.
I'm sure they've got a spreadsheet somewhere to cross-reference any sin with its appropriate penance. And being the Catholic church, their knowledge of sexually related sins should certainly be extensive.
So, as a Catholic, the Sacrament of Reconciliation requires a few things. One, you have to be sincere. Two, you have to admit to those you have wronged and make it right, to the best of your ability. Three, you have to work diligently to not sin that way again.
The fun thing is, you can't con an All Knowing God. You can lie to people, sure, but God knows if you're sincere, and he'll judge you when your time comes.
They [the Repuglican Party] have LOTS of precedents. I need to join the Repuglican Party, so I can get God's phone number. But, assuming there is a God, It knows when you're 'apology' is just for show.
Trimule
Announces that he will not run for re-election but, of course, refuses to do the honorable thing and resign depriving the party of his vote.
Nanntuckett
Imagine someone else using this. “I killed 10 people but god forgave me, so I’m good now”
MeeseOnABeam
im not religious, does this count as taking the lord's name in vain?
bourbonandbaddecisions
Strange. God wanted me to tell you to get fucked Tony.
rubypilgrim
I just asked God if this was true. God sat down and said "Meow!" That means "fuck no, he's lying again."
landisfloatingrock
T&F. (stands for a petroleum base product and chicken down)
Orlandonuts
Future Newsmax anchor
jonnnney
Considering how many priests are arrested for sexual assault each year I would much prefer a fake christian to a real one. I understand lying to get ahead. I do not understand a deity forgiving someone for raping a child. All gods are burning in hell, I think it is time the devout start looking to goddesses for guidance.
doctorId
Lying about being Christian so that other people lying about being Christian will continue to support him. Who are the optics for exactly when no one actually believes it? If he was just honest and said he doesn't give a fuck about that person and he'd do it again if he had the opportunity, the exact same people who bought the "god's forgiveness" bullshit would still be on his side because none of it is about God or forgiveness for any of them.
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
Your gods love is not unconditional.
Hatlled
Their god doesn't love. Period.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Someone who talks to god is religious.
Someone who god talks to is insane.
duktayp
He since dropped his re-election bid https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/us/politics/tony-gonzales-resigns.html
TheImgurWarsMadeMe
Feeling better about it doesn't mean God forgave you, it just means you really shouldn't be allowed to walk around free.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
whatatool.
AskAnAngryjew
God responded through an email account: TrustmeImreallygod@aol.com. Check your spam box people!
CallMeMcGyver
"I've asked god to forgive me, which he has..." ...uh, no... Show us the signed affidavit where he states this. Otherwise it was most likely murder.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Either he is so abusive and horrible that the thought of dying in one of the most horrific-possible ways was still considered better than to live in the same world as he is, or he had her killed.
I think regardless of which one it was, he should probably be removed from power and go to jail... for life.
MeeseOnABeam
just an assumption, i feel like if you're a scummy politician having someone killed, you probably want it to look like an accident? falling out of windows, drowning, tripping down the stairs, etc. self-immolation is typically reserved for statement-making as i understand it
Ana5ta51a
Did she really "burn herself to death?"
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
Being evil and saying God forgave you just sounds like you worship an evil god to me.
Hatlled
Their god is completely evil. As are they.
reichstein
Chances are pretty good than he's some form of Christian, which would mean that he does indeed follow an evil god.
ThatRaccoonGuy
There's no hell to punish your enemies for you. Hate and punish them now.
Swiggy1957
If only his priest could have disclosed Tony's confessional booth stories...
anonanonsnake
I have yet to hear of a single woman burn herself to death over an affair with a pushy boss. I have heard many tales of murder though
TacoFox
And god says no...
ZaphodBbx
"...which He has." -- Prove it asshole, go have a conversation with 'Him'...
ATLandNerdy
I just asked God, and she told me that was a lie.
gronzilla
I just asked God, and he told me that was a lie.
pancreas
keep in mind, biblical god is kind of an asshole
onemightyandstrong
I actually have the inside track with the Big Guy. He says Tony is getting thrust down to hell for his many sins.
dixxienormus
I have not forgiven this Creep - GOD.
DJOldguy
Burned herself, you say? Interesting
roughingupthesuspect
Ima take that as BS since I doubt you prayed, and if you did "God" likely didn't respond...
Defcon2
the repubes will accept this.
Helixninja333
And given how much the entire republican party lies, I firmly believe it was a murder.
vilikke
There's security footage that shows she was alone - https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/autopsy-tony-gonzales-santos-aviles-blood-alcohol-21941078.php "Video from a home security system shows that Santos-Aviles was alone in her backyard when she ignited herself. She tried to extinguish the flames by rolling on the ground and then crawled to a faucet and poured water on herself with a garden house, police reports say."
vilikke
"She then walked through parts of her home, leaving a trail of blood and burned skin in a bedroom and hallway before she collapsed on the front porch, where first responders found her shortly after 9:30 p.m. on Sept. 13"
famtifa
Wow. Hard to think that thought.
famtifa
I said hard to UNTHINK that thought damn autocorrect
famtifa
*Now I do too
pancreas
yeah i was going to say, most suicidal people wouldn't pick something so painful
FaeVikingPrincess
People only set themselves on fire as a form of extreme protest, not as a suicide or cry for help.
mrthewhitee
Guess it depends on how you define murder. I don't think he had her killed but by reports it sounds like he likely drove her to suicide.
BHPaperstacks
Based on what? Why would she immolate herself? Did someone credible witness watch her douse herself in gasoline and then light herself on fire while saying, "This is my choice!"?
Cthulhuonabike
By self immolation? Women typically choose less violent means of suicide like overdose. Burning yourself to death has got to be about the most violent means of suicide imaginable
Wolfshead009
Depends on how you define "murder". Is it having directly caused her death or is it merely driving her to death?
Sebastopol140
Tony talks to God and God answers. Amazing. Ask him for the powerball numbers next time, asshole.
KaylRawr
This is the argument destiny tries to make, when God is the ultimate, how does 2 people with differencing answers from God resolve an issue.
BellsTheorem
That isn't how it works. You don't need to hear back from God to know you have been forgiven. You just need to ask and you receive it. Literally how it works.
Commit sin > Ask for forgiveness > Repeat
Sebastopol140
What an awesome concept. Do all the awful shit you want but ask God topardon you and it's ok. Yeah that's a concept of justice.
BellsTheorem
It's the best. Why being a conservative is so awesome. You can rape kids and just ask and all is forgiven. If people give you shit for raping kids you just point out how they are just godless demons that hate Jesus.
MeowWoof
I don't know if he's a Catholic, but Catholics believe that Catholic priests have the power to convey God's forgiveness. I don't know how many Hail Mary's you have to say to atone for driving your subordinate to suicide by being a sex pest, but I'm sure they have a precedent.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Yes, the priest goes on “sick-leave”
Neednoggle
I'm sure they've got a spreadsheet somewhere to cross-reference any sin with its appropriate penance. And being the Catholic church, their knowledge of sexually related sins should certainly be extensive.
LuminoZero
So, as a Catholic, the Sacrament of Reconciliation requires a few things. One, you have to be sincere. Two, you have to admit to those you have wronged and make it right, to the best of your ability. Three, you have to work diligently to not sin that way again.
The fun thing is, you can't con an All Knowing God. You can lie to people, sure, but God knows if you're sincere, and he'll judge you when your time comes.
Now, saying God has forgiven him? Blasphemous.
urusername2
They [the Repuglican Party] have LOTS of precedents. I need to join the Repuglican Party, so I can get God's phone number. But, assuming there is a God, It knows when you're 'apology' is just for show.
famtifa
When they meet Jesus he may have some strong words for these types
MeowWoof
People always forget that when they ask "What would Jesus do?" that overturning tables and whipping some bastards is a possible outcome.
Sebastopol140
Tables be flying!
urusername2
Words? Like he had with the vendors at the synagogue? More like his 'belt', like my dad used to do to me when I was acting like a Repuglican.