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#funny #denmark #prison
May 23, 2021 7:32 AM
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#funny #denmark #prison
Mannananan
Is this going to be posted on Imgur everyday until the end of time?
EveryTimeIfartaFairyDies
These are better than most apartments in my home town.
Etherealvalentine
I just want to live in a place with a window
Silnt39
He must be American cause that is the only way most of us will be able to ever retire
flexstar
A bad business model for private jail companies: if the prisoners are rehabilitated in the prison, they will not come back!
izzi7713
Lol I'm watching a French show, and dude goes to prison. I think- wtf I would def not mind living there. Like a lil studio apartment
notmyrealface
Prison is about redemption and solving the mental and world problems that lead to committing a crime. In the US it's only about punishment.
vLX42
How it looks in reality one of the newer prisons in Denmark. But it has room service :)
Spaceorbisgaming
I would move to Denmark just so I can go to it's prisons. Damn that looks nice.
notmyrealface
In Finland some are allowed to leave for day jobs or school. https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo
jdthechamp
How fast is the WiFi?
tarataqa
ultra fast, but it's prison so they never ever tell you the password.?
JollyJokzr
How about dying in the climate wars?
or0b0ur0s
Of course, the point of a humane prison is to SHORTEN the stay, so it wouldn't work out quite like we Americans might think, anyhow...
hattbillies3
my aunts ex robbed a store when they broke up cuz he was so desperate to be taken care of. He would be so happy in Denmark.
tidepool
Frame me for murder in Denmark mfers I’m ready for this punishment.
betterave
I’ve paid to stay in hostels that weren’t half this nice.
tabunuf
We are preparing people to go back to society as contributing members, and help to get them out of crime
Xerxes4242
But then how would we turn first time offenders into hardened lifetime criminals?
heyletsbefriends
Meanwhile in USA: HavE fUn GeTtin rAPeD iN pRIsOn
JollyJokzr
Maybe the Danish make their prisons like this to attract cute Americans
LiquidSodium
i mean if theyre gentle.........at first
Subtilico
No matter how luxurious your cell is, you still can't go out when you want to.
bassbooksonline5
That's the point. Being convicted of certain crimes does mean you lose your freedom but you shouldn't have to lose your humanity or dignity
Subtilico
True, by far most sentences are temporary, so you have to keep in mind in what state you release people back into society.
nonameidea2
And that is the punishment. So seems spot on
Subtilico
Yes, but in this post it is presented as a luxury hotel. It's not...
tarataqa
"Outside is overrated." --every Imgurian ever.
dilllan
I CAN NOT shit in a public restroom. I was in (America) in suicide watch, in jail, for 4 days and did not shit. We were allowed 2 squares
dilllan
of toilet paper a day.
sparkletempt
Millenials can finally afford a place on their own, what do I need to commit to get in?
Karlsson95
Tax fraud usually works best.
BeardedSkyDaddy
It’s nice but I feel like US prisoners would trash it out in a day “oh curtains? Let me wipe my ass with those”
tarataqa
fooken lowlifes!
morphis
people that aren't in prison also do that.
jonseyjones10
I agree, it would take some time for prisoners to adjust to being treated like actual humans. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try
DanaConti5
That’s because prison is also America’s largest mental institution.
RationalViking
In Scandinavia, even prisoners are considered people deserving of respect. I guess that's just one of the evils of Socialism :p
donorkort
Denmark isn't a socialist country, though.
RationalViking
Are you sure we're using the same definition of socialism? Because it most defensive is, like most Scandinavian countries.
donorkort
Det er sgu en journalistisk stramning at påstå, at Danmark - eller nogen af de skandinaviske lande, for den sags skyld - er socialistiske.
SpringXChicken
thepromisedLAN
Prison is for reform not solely punishment. These types of setups tend to have a much higher rate of recidivism
allthenamesaregone
I presume you mean lower?
thepromisedLAN
I did
SirJamesMonster42
Prison is for housing the poor, mentally ill, and developmentally disabled. Getting slave labor is one of the many perks.
szepasszony
That's the reality in the US, but not how it *should* be
certainlynotaserialkiller
funny how people downvote the actual reality of american capitalism
SirJamesMonster42
All I can say is that I agree w George Carlin. Americans keep voting for the same type of people and believe the propaganda.
HappyLittleIdiot
Why wouldn't they? To me it doesn't seem like anything that would deserve praise or celebration, after all.
certainlynotaserialkiller
considering its porbalby the same people that scream "'MURICANUMBERONE!!!1!!1!!!" it does make them slightly uncomfortable
GNiko
*lower
thepromisedLAN
Yes, I have speeding thoughts and sometimes things get twisted a bit Haha
RiskIt4ABiscuit
https://academic.oup.com/aler/article-abstract/13/1/103/183298
nefleb
interesting, thanks for sharing
jnmjnmjnm
That uses a dataset from one country, so it is likely the same approach to rehabilitation is there regardless of “grade” of prison….
thepromisedLAN
Even though I would think otherwise, I do not currently have proof of that so I cannot at this time say your are wrong despite inclinations
fuckiloveboobsthough
I like the idea of rehabilitation in prison, a lot of people commit crimes in desperation, showing them that life can be better and giving1/
NotRightNeverWrong
Yeah but there is no rehabbing a murderer or child rapist.
fuckiloveboobsthough
them the skills and the mindset to make their lives better is what it should be about. But it shouldn't stop there 2/
fuckiloveboobsthough
as the biggest trouble convicts face is securing a long-time job after they get out. Probation is good, but they should also get counsel 3/
fuckiloveboobsthough
and help from the labour office, get a list of employers, who are hiring ex-convicts. Get help if they want to get an education, etc. 4/4
NomDeImguerre
Yes. Which we also have, and it boggles our mind why you don't.
IWasACatAllAlong
Except you won't have a pc, laptop or a phone. Which is kinda a deal breaker.
Jandegrote
You say that the prison near me has a ps5 you can rent for a few euro per week.
Karlsson95
Most places you actually do get a TV and access to a computer. Sometimes even a fully equipped kitchen.
IWasACatAllAlong
But do you get internet thooouuugh.
Karlsson95
The computers usually have it I think. But I can’t say for sure. WiFi seems unlikely but not impossible!
titaniumsnail
The internet is usually very limited. Mostly access to educational stuff. No porn and such.
MartinSandberg
You get a phone, pc and tv, i'm from Denmark and have been in prison for 3 years
SpaceWarrior3000
What'd you do?
MartinSandberg
Stole some cars and sold som Guns and som other stuff, but nothing violent, i just had grabby hands and sold the stuff i stole
SpaceWarrior3000
Interesting! Tak for svaret :)
MartinSandberg
Det var så lidt ??
DidaChikDumaChum
I love how comments on post like this are mostly pro more rehab oriented and more humane prisons, but when theres a post about arresting 1/2
GreenTeaParty
That's because people rarely take the emotional time to fully connect and justify their morality, and it shows.
DidaChikDumaChum
someone people dont like, it's all wishes for 50 year sentences, wishing for prison rape and general vengefulness. 2/2
SmugandFurry
I guess a lot depends on the crime and the person.
parkway
Us Americans use our prison system as part of our identity. That's why.
soul34ter
well... this is confronting.
htapoicoS
Imgurians:
POChinaski
It's almost like different people say different things.
NotNotDeadpool
It's called doubble standards.
PieMasterOfTheRealm
Yeah but....are some of those people politicians who spend their lives in lavish luxury whilst they keep everyone else in misery?
looseasamoose
It's pretty common for people to be steaming hypocrites. The solution is to understand why.
MegaDeuce
Nice username btw. That reminds me, need to try and find some Keflex...
Hekatombe
DanaConti5
Are they the same screen names?
gherman417
You’re saying everything on here is spun to be political and exists in an echo chamber? No way. Hadn’t noticed that.
nonameidea2
Thats us people wishing that. Here it is european people explaining the concept
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
The people want both…at the same time.?♀️
or0b0ur0s
IDK about anyone else, but I want the guy who took the weed trimmer from my shed to get some therapy & assistance. I want Mitch McConnell >
or0b0ur0s
and Donald Trump to be strung up in Gitmo by their testicles and slowly flayed alive for about 30 years, if possible.
PointsAreForB1tches
I just got a boner thinking about that.
k98kurz
Politics are toxic nonsense and have no place in a discussion about what a moral society does with criminals.
catrov
Amen.
or0b0ur0s
That wa a commentary on the way society defines who is a criminal, vs. who has actually harmed their fellow man & society.
MagpieChristine
I like to imagine that it's entirely different groups of people making those comments. But I'm probably not as correct as I'd like to be.
fennecbutt
Yup imgur is a good representation of human nature. Illogical and inconsistent
Denim777
hey im a *looks at hand* homan. this offends me.
happywalker
sure, sure you are :-P
JokeDestroyer
Almost like there's a shitload of people here with wildly different views and opinions.
HarbourMistress
There is also a strong tendency to follow the prevalent opinion - sheep like.
EngorgedPhallus
It floors me that there are people that don't get this. They seem to legitimately think imgur is like a singular entity.
SomethingTittyWitty
We Are Legion!
htapoicoS
I think this is actually very often the same people...
mcoulter876
Exactly. Prison is for rehabilitation.
Rifneno
Because the type of crimes heinous enough to get attention in a global site are extraordinary outliers. I mean I think Imgur is a bunch of
Rifneno
hypocritical piss stains in A LOT of cases, but this isn't one of them. If the topic was a rando arrested for drugs, they'd promote rehab,
fuckthisfuckingshit
I'll treated puppies call for capital punishment for sure.
Rifneno
it's just that the type we end up discussing are genuinely evil fucks who torture small animals for fun.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
That is a slippery slope. Laws exist as it is, beyond that is vigilantism
Pentjotal
Not in the state, otherwise why would some cops keep drugs, or posititive drugs kit and plant evidence ?
SJohnson23
Well, yeah. We’re generally fine with people selling us weed or understanding the problems of addicts. We don’t like rapists.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
That just means you believe in different criminal laws, not in more humane prisons.
SJohnson23
If those 2.3m were all rapists, killers and people who talk at the theatre, we’d be fine. It’s not though, is it?
rowanblaze
The Special Hell.
WithCheese
Not defending rapists at all, but dont you think they should also get rehabilitation to learn from their errors? Could prevent future crimes
PieAndPunch
A lot of them are just irreversibly broken man. It's a hard question of what to do with them at that point
gherman417
They should. While their in jail. For forever. The recidivism rates are insane on sex crimes in particular.
Danteet
You might not feel that way if you got raped.
SmoogleGot
Yes. Rapists, Murderers and Pedos don’t deserve rehab, they deserve punishment
SJohnson23
Absolutely. Few people are irredeemable.
PieAndPunch
*Few people that commit petty crimes are irredeemable. Rape and murder are a bit different. There's something biologically broken there.
Twinklepot
Treating people humanely. Their punishment is loss of freedom, that is all.
AgamemnonsMemes
BUt what about the dehumanization?
DrPhillipMahmoufWifarts
GNious
Worth noting: It's a correctional system, not a penal/punitive system. it's in society's interest that they exit as functional humans
Truntelunte
And rehabilitation too.
anerdwithaknife
I think it's humane and right, BUT it does shine a very bad light on other parts of society when law abiding people live much worse.
anerdwithaknife
Doesn't mean prisoners should suffer, but it skews a lot of incentives and sense of fairness. The solution is to fix what's broken though.
Th1ng
I am not sure you want to punish them at all but rather reform them
parabolic000
We should want to reform criminal offenders...but the general reaction from a lot of Americans is basically the old standard--
parabolic000
puritanical radical Calvinist Protestant mortification and penance: some bullshit about how harsh punishments deter and redirect.
Jonesso
sometimes it's just a part time thing in Scandinavia you keep going to work you just have to come to the prison after to serve your sentence
supraman2turbo
Im American its an upgrade. I aint got a lot of freedom and my government sucks
jetflight
And if, say, it's some dude that kidnapped, raped, and murdered children... Well then that is not enough by any metric.
KoalaOnTheJuice
For Denmark, punishment isn't really the point. It's about helping the criminal be a better person so they don't do it again.
sturmhauke
Most inmates are not that far gone.
jetflight
Yes. But those that are get the same luxury resort treatment.
LoquaciousDude
If the purpose of locking people up is to keep society safe from them, then there is no reason for ill treatment
sturmhauke
I'd rather a few true monsters are comfortably locked up than a bunch of lesser criminals are treated like garbage.
NomDeImguerre
It's not even about punishment. That's what I've never gotten about the American 'justice' system. Convicts are still citizens, and a gov...
NomDeImguerre
government should never punish its citizens. Incarceration is about keeping the general public safe, until the convict can be rehabilitated.
NomDeImguerre
Incarceration serves also as a deterrent for would be crimes, but it's effect is extremely limited. As such, our max incarceration is 25y.
sturmhauke
I've heard people refer to juvenile inmates as worthless trash. It's a disgusting attitude.
Iblamemyparents
In the US prisoners have become a commodity, for profit enterprise
50m31AW
The 13th ammendment does say slavery is banned "...except as punishment for crime..." after all. US prison is intentional slavery
Iblamemyparents
I'm more referring to the privatization of prisons
legalisegaymarijuana
The point of Danish prisons is not to punish people, it's the help them. Crazy idea.
Hammerwell
Any permanent success percentages in comparison to others?
GrandProtectorDark
Extremely low reoffending rate
Neotic357
We have a 29% recidivism rate over 2 years, compared to 36% in the US. Norway and Iceland have better rates, with similar philosophies to DK
Hammerwell
Thanks.
Neotic357
Trying to prevent crime using fear of punishment, only works until people are confident they will not be caught and/or desperate enough.
Neotic357
It also will not teach convicts *how* to live a life without crime; A lot of criminals just don't see other ways to survive.
ZippidyDooDa
A point is remove the desperation factor - e.g. help people get a decent job etc. also much cheaper for the society
MustntSleep
Some people who have never been to jail underestimate the experience of being trapped in a room with no escape. You might feel trapped at
MustntSleep
work, in a social situation, etc., but you still retain the option of getting up and leaving. It's at least possible. There's something
MustntSleep
special about being physically trapped in a room by the state and you're not allowed to leave, no matter how badly you might want to lol
GrandProtectorDark
One of my relatives had to stay home for 2 weeks due to a covid case in her workplace (the relative was negative tho). Even that was already
GrandProtectorDark
Hell for her. So i can imagine how much worse actual prison can be
gryphonflight81
I've never been to prison, thank God, because I have been in a psychiatric ward and it's the same principle for a much shorter time
gryphonflight81
And that was honestly really difficult to handle, knowing I would be getting out sooner rather than later.
Foxsayy
It is disturbing how many people simply want anyone who committed any crime to rot away.
MapleSyrupMafia
Depends on the crime... the guy with the knife that got arrested after trying to kidnap a kid was a repeat offender... This kind of people >
MapleSyrupMafia
can rot in jail and denied humane treatment...
semanticsamsquamtch
Extremely so and more commonplace than makes one comfortable.
HeywouldJablowme
It drives me nuts. Like it doesn't accomplish anything. Just stick them in a freezer for 10 years and then what?
samssquatch
I don’t want people to even go to prison but they have to learn how their crimes ruined other peoples lives I don’t know how you’d do it
MapleSyrupMafia
Some people will never learn tho... a dude got arrested after trying to kidnap a kid, he's a repeat offender. An old man was released from >
MapleSyrupMafia
jail for murdering his wife/gf like 30 years ago since they said he wasn't a threat to society. He killed another one....
NomDeImguerre
Because punishment is not rehabilitation. Lock a person up and do nothing, he comes out the same, if not worse.
NomDeImguerre
Why? And how is that accomplished through ruining their lives?
NomDeImguerre
I'll assume you believe learning how they ruined o her people's lives" will lead to them not doing crimes. So, punishment would lead to...
NomDeImguerre
.. rehabilitation. Research shows it doesn't, but especially not if you've alienated them from support structure & limit their econ prospec
R0meo04
Not far form here, police found an old man with over 30 dismembered and buried girls in his house? What would you do?
Foxsayy
Notice how I said "committed any crime." Psychopathic murder is far different from theft or drug use, for instance.
nonameidea2
Put him in prison for life. He will never endanger another person and will never be free to decide how to life,but he still can get a
nonameidea2
Clean, nice room. *live
BadabingBadaboomWasAlreadyInUse
Yes thank you. And also provide the man with some therapy of sorts
sparkletempt
I think it hugely depends on the crime. You stole bananas? Reform. You are a mass murderer or child rapist? Rot away
Jatenffxiv
If by reform you mean helping them find a good job ok. Most people who steal food do so because they need it to survive.
SarahDancePainter
THANK YOU. I want people to be well and stop hurting me, but if they can’t/won’t help get better, then I still want them to stop hurting me.
Foxsayy
I think it's obvious there's gradations of severity. Some should be locked away for life. Most can be rehabilitated.
gryphonflight81
Sad truth, many child rapists don't even get as much time as someone arrested for large amounts of marijuana.
Vorrilian
Well obviously, that seems totally reasonable. Green plant bad, didn't you know?
fennecbutt
Child rape is worse than a single murder? ?
gryphonflight81
Intent holds some weight here as well, and generally speaking a child rapist will have more than one victim.
LordNergal
It's the Victim-Offender cycle. A murder victim typically doesn't go around murdering other people, but child rape victims are prone to 1/
LordNergal
ending up offenders themselves. It's part of why psychological treatment of the victims is massively important. 2/2
KoalaOnTheJuice
Worth noting: The reoffending rate in Denmark is among the lowest in the world. Half that of the US.
GnomeDeGuerre
An example of a system that attempts to give "freedom from X" AND "freedom to X".
PunnyTiger
that's because the US makes it impossible for an ex-con to get a job, so their only option is more crime or starvation
MapleSyrupMafia
I'd be curious to know what the rate would be in the US if you removed all the shit cops planting drugs and arresting people for no reason.
DorfFortress
I'd be curious to know the rate if the US had better minimum wage and free medical support as well as better cops
PapiChuloNumeroUno
Rehabilitation into a productive member of society, not punishing and locking up as a means of revenge.
DangleMcNubbins
Yea, well...FREEDOM
comacomacomacomachameleon
the stats are skewed because Denmark is full of Danish people
Antrazit
Well there might be a multitude of reasons behind this, so we don’t really knowing it’s because of the luxurious jails. Prolly though.
KoalaOnTheJuice
Yeah. Think the message behind the 'luxurious' jails is "You're worth the time. We want to look after you. Will you look after yourself?"
Antrazit
Yea I understand that I’m just sayin there are many factors at work here so it’s way oversimplified to say it’s because their jail system is
Antrazit
Better. I don’t doubt it is, but Denmark also has a great social system, is super rich, not as dense a population...
KaraokeLemur
That's probably because conviction != branding for life here. Even the background check for jobs basically checks if you've committed >
Sakkura
Well, the list the employer gets ("straffeattest") isn't specific. But they're only allowed to ask for that list if it's strictly relevant.
Sakkura
And convictions etc. will only be listed for a limited period (2-5 years).
KaraokeLemur
crimes relevant to your position. Eg. financial crimes when applying to a job at a bank
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
It's also because the US system is predatory. All of our systems that interact with the poor are designed to keep people poor.
Niddhoggyr
The USA's Judicial system is not meant to rehabilitate. Never has been.
BraveStrawberry
Nah, in the US you’re branded for life too. If you’re a felon, good luck getting *any* job let alone one that’s relevant to your crime.
KaraokeLemur
Exactly. The "!=" was supposed to mean "does not equal". And "here" was not USA, I was replying to someone complimenting Denmark.
ligmabolz
Walgreens won't hire people with a record . Starting pay is about $10 an hour
Swoogeeh
It's like that everywhere. At least here in Sweden, your criminal record is available to the public and having an entry on said record does
Swoogeeh
Affect your chances of getting employment in certain sectors. That said, with a high quality of life, fair salaries and a good salary to
Swoogeeh
Cost of living ratio, as well as multiple social nets to prevent you from ending up on the streets, you never run out of chances at
Sakkura
Available to the public? As in, I could just go in and see whatever crimes you committed? Surely that's not true, would violate GDPR.
Swoogeeh
Correct, whilst it is true that you may only extract your own criminal record, as someone answered - employers may ask for them, however
tinydog
The US has 7147 detention facilities housing 2.3 million inmates. Denmark has 45 facilities housing 4227 inmates.
ochermes28
Here’s one reason: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/denmark-population/
OptimusPantry
For anyone else who wondered, that's 322 inmates per American facility to Denmark's 94.
rupinord
This makes a difference of 3000 prisoners (US) to 90 (Den)
Rowsus
Or ....... the US 70 people per 10,000 of population in detention facilities, Denmark has 7.
HK47Statement
HK47Statement
To be clear not condoning my countries prison system
djzapz
That is significantly more useful.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
That tells us two things: 1. The US cramps way too many inmates into a single prison, and 2. the US incarcerates an insane amount of people.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
What it doesn't tell us is a good reason why prison inmates shouldn't live in humane conditions.
Subtilico
Denmark doesn't use slave labour as a business model.
gherman417
Not anymore, at least — https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_slave_trade
Xedi22
And I don’t think has as many folks using prison as way to eat or get medical treatment....
GnomeDeGuerre
US should hire DK to manage the 5 states with the most prisoners, a 100 years lease or such?
CyborgScribe
Donkey Kong?
GnomeDeGuerre
Correct.
HiiroRin
This.
fuckiloveboobsthough
Taking into account how much $ US prisons make vs Denmark, US prisoners should live in way better conditions than in Denmark
jekath
Danish healthcare also costs way less. And, of course, is available to all. Just like in first world countries like Rwanda.
mosquitosareevil
I agere that as a society it's a finanicial loss when locking people up. However the companies running the prisons can earn a high profit
mosquitosareevil
Not that I will ever agree with a setup where companies carn earn a profit locking people up
HappyLittleIdiot
Have you considered that maybe the prisons make money precisely by cutting costs from everything involving prisoner wellbeing?
fuckiloveboobsthough
More money, yes
tabunuf
Prisons don't make money ever! It's a cost to the country no matter how you put it!
Xedi22
The companies that service prisons, or buy the the slave labor for cheap “Made in USA” labels make bank though...that’s the “industry”.
tabunuf
Yep, I get that, paid by your tax money, with an incentive to get more criminals
Xedi22
Yeeeeeep. Lots of perverse profit/funding motive in US even-not-private prisons, policing and general law.
AngelCenturion
Mass incarceration in the US is a multi billion $ industry
tabunuf
Yes.. And who pays these multi billion bills?
Antrelius
You a numpty? Do you not understand how the US prison system works?
tabunuf
Not fully, but enough to see that the design of it is broken badly
GnomeDeGuerre
Do you understand that prisoners do work without getting the value of their effort?
tabunuf
If they were out in society as functioning members, society would be getting the value.. Instead, they are unable to really help the economy
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
You poor sweet innocent Child
tabunuf
Can we remove the "poor" from that sentence? ?
Feenstar21
There are also 320 million more people living in the US.
jackmiton
I can see you weren't burdened with an abundance of schooling so please go google what 'per capita' means
semanticsamsquamtch
This. I grow weary of people comparing the US to tiny, largely homogenous Northern European countries. It lacks perspective.
Articate
It really doesn’t. You only need a thousand convicts for it to be statistically representative that Denmark’s model works better.
AManisNotACamel
It sure does! My perspective on the USA prison thing, is it’s a shit hole who incarcerates people for profit.
semanticsamsquamtch
It truly is but if America were less of a melting pot of culture and more of an inclusive, accepting community, it wouldn't have to be.
jackmiton
Feel free to compare crime/incarceration rates to places like Australia ect which are just as diverse
JesuisThor
Thankfully human rights and ideologies of freedom are scalable
GrandProtectorDark
More people is irrelevant
dmitriid
Try all of the EU. 500 million people. And still, less crime, fewer prisoners, no mass shootings...
semanticsamsquamtch
I would try it, because that is a fair comparison by proportion. Quantity of incarceration was the subject used, not the morality of it.
dmitriid
Yup. Quantity of incarceration is lower in the EU
MattScifiBandit
I've seen you say "largely homogenous" a few times now. This a new dogwhistle for "mostly white." Because that is how it reads.
semanticsamsquamtch
We're talking about Denmark here. If we were talking about Ethopia, I would still say largely homogenous. Dont project your racist ideology.
MattScifiBandit
So what you're saying is mixing races causes problems? Hmmmmm?
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
That's precisely what he means and it's complete BS. There is no "largely homogenous" European country. We do have black and brown ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
citizens. But we don't treat them like shit (by and large) or keep them impoverished, & we don't hire homicidal klansmen as police officers.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Contrary to your racist delusions, we do have black and brown people over here in our tiny European countries. What we don't have are ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
KKK thugs in uniforms who shoot unarmed black kids. A lot of crime in America is by design, just like your frightening poverty level ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
and the fact that it disproportionately affects people of color is by design. And then you point at these disenfranchised, ghettoized ...
semanticsamsquamtch
Idealism aside, country size and a largely homogenous culture are significant factors to acknowledge when considering incarceration.
nerdasaursaysrawr
There have been studies on this. Here’s one example. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2578082?seq=1
dmitriid
Country size as in: 500 million people with open borders. Try again.
semanticsamsquamtch
Which country do you have in mind in your lambast?
dmitriid
The EU is 500 million people. Open borders. Guess where Denmark is. The rest if the EU also has significantly lower rate of incarceration.
semanticsamsquamtch
Still not initial point. If someone had compared entire EU to the US, I would have nothing to say. But comparison made was with Denmark only
MyVerySmarterUserName
Cant compare the EU to the US in this case. Makes no sense. Multiple countries each with long and rich history vs 200yo + single country..
GrandProtectorDark
Homogenous culture = translation : im a racist and I blame non whites for all crime problems
semanticsamsquamtch
Im sorry your Critical Race Theory class taught you that, but you are a fool and a racist. Cant even understand basic demographics.
GrandProtectorDark
Idiot
semanticsamsquamtch
Drone
CyborgScribe
Yeah a few comments later he directly blamed "the multicultural US"
SubtleOrc
Homogeneous culture.. yes if only everyone was white and blonde in America huh? Jesus Fucking Christ you have no idea
semanticsamsquamtch
Racist
semanticsamsquamtch
Didnt say it was right, things are the way they are. Typical Twitter repsonse, everything is Nazi. Move along and gain some perspective.
lankyscribbler
I see their point; when cops automatically (wrongly) assume 50% of the population are criminals, of course it spikes the incarceration rate.
semanticsamsquamtch
Thanks, nice to see some people with common sense on here instead of the rampamt Tumblr ragers.
giordanom
"homogeneous culture" is just racist code for "it's cause they don't have black people."
semanticsamsquamtch
Ha there are other countries with a majority of brown or darked skinned people. Is it racist to call them homogenous or are you the racist?
BobusMaximus
US country size should be an advantage. Services are cheaper with scale, more opportunities to specialise.
semanticsamsquamtch
But the eternally divisive state of the multicultural US hardly allows for that. Its far from ideal, but remains the situation.
BobusMaximus
How so?
semanticsamsquamtch
Its difficult for a nation to find common ground when their ideals and morals vary drastically. Hence, my mention of a homogenous state.
dmitriid
Compared to the EU the US is *extremely* homogeneous.
semanticsamsquamtch
I disagree, especially when considering culture. There is a huge gap by the very nature of the US that built it as well, immigration.
MyVerySmarterUserName
The EU is a group of countries, the US is one country...
BobusMaximus
Extremely is an exaggerations. Both a very diverse
HK47Statement
Uhm.. what the fuck are you basing that on? The US is extremely diverse much more so than Europe