Background Information on Cherrywood Apartments Rainbow Flag Dispute

Dec 5, 2016 4:40 AM

RainbowGirl2016

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TL;DR

This is the issue I'm facing. What follows is a rundown of all the facts as I understand them.

My Lease

The relevant information from my lease: "Resident is not permitted to attach or hang any item to building in any area adjacent to your apartment by means of screws, nails or fasteners. This includes, but is not limited to, flags, bamboo screens, hanging plants, wind chimes, bicycle hooks, hanging decorations, strings of lights, etc." There is NOTHING in the lease about ANY exceptions to this rule.

Halloween 2016

Here is my unit as it was on Halloween. I had these decorations up for most of the month with zero complaints.

My Unit

After the election I chose to place a single clean rainbow flag on my porch.

12/1/16 - Violation Letter

I received a letter saying I had violated the lease terms prohibiting "Hanging plants, chimes, decorations, lights".

Email to landlords

I emailed my landlords photographs & descriptions of several other units that were (and are) violating the same rule as me.

Highlights of my conversation at the office

This is a summary of this exchange based on my best memory of what occured.

Email sent to landlord

Having been told that the office allows "seasonal decor", I ask for a description of the policy.

Letter from Resident Services

Letter admits to an "exception" for "festive decorations for a limited time-period around the winter holidays", thus admitting that they are enforcing the rules unequally and not in line with the lease.

Response email

My response to the letter, explaining that I had been told it was all holidays, and wanted to get clarification. Winter holidays only? I also called "Dan" and asked for clarification on the policy, and he said he would "get back to" me. (As of 12/4 @9pm he has not, if he does I'll update this)

Temporary Fix

To keep in line with what they have told me in writing is their exception (which I still maintain is an unlawful and unfair application of the lease terms as stated), I use tinsel & safety pins to turn my flag into a "happy holidays" sign.

New Decoration for Porch

I checked my lease multiple times & checked many of my neighbors porches & concluded that well-maintained potted plants are allowed, so I put out a nice new potted aloe plant, complete with rainbow stripes & a pink triangle.

Second email to management

During this time I also collected dozens of photographs of noncompliant units. I am choosing not to post them here because I do not actually care about my neighbor's minor display violations and don't want anyone bothering them. I simply have them to hold as evidence that my neighbors have been allowed lease-violating decor for some time without consequence.

Rainbow lights added

Don't worry, I intend to keep rainbow-ing it up every way I can get away with!

Your apartment decorations are relentlessly gay.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

May i suggest rainbow curtains?

9 years ago | Likes 205 Dislikes 10

This should be good as long as there's nothing in your lease saying windows must display white curtains/blinds (I know mine says that whomp)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

a flag pole wouldnt breach the original rules would it?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Just bought some! Forgot to get a curtain rod though, so that'll be tomorrow's project.

9 years ago | Likes 99 Dislikes 5

Even better for gay pride than a curtain rod: get Curt and Rod!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A rainbow pot with an assortment of flowers arranged to make a rainbow.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Don't forget a rainbow wreath! Oh, and maybe a rainbow doormat?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Further suggestion: A Grinch trying to take your flag away. Seasonal AND sends a message!

9 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 2

Bonus points if you paste your apartment manager's face onto it.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Honestly I kinda understand the apartment people not wanting political decorations... around here it may cause you to be graffitied.

9 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 14

One could argue that Christmas decorations are equally political, if less commonly hated.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 16

Discrimination or no, sounds like a sure-fire way to be hated by everyone if you're turning on another neighbor to make your case.

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 12

You don't need permission to take pictures of people or things that are in public. My bet is that one of her neighbors complained.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

The rule specifies that they type of fastener is crucial to the rule. As written, you can keep the flag if you tie it up w/o screws/hooks.

9 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 8

Right? Take some string and just tie a knot around the railing

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

@op

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Op could use a big ass wood working clamp to hang the flag like a normal pole but not violate their rules.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Unfortunately, prettymuch anything you use to attach it would count as a "fastener," though, so it would still violate.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

what about pinning it under a potted plant on the balcony?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I can't imagine someone calling that a fastener; I like it

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

SUCCESS! fear not @op our semantics just might save the day

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastener "Rope ... are not generally categorized as fasteners..."

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

3 words: Rainbow. Christmas. Tree.

9 years ago | Likes 1412 Dislikes 12

Blasphemy

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

Rainbow of Christmas Trees. Rainbow of Dancing Christmas Trees. Also Elves/Garden Gnomes. dressed in every color.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

isn't that a song ?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Oh the management is surely going to *love* that!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

santa in a rainbow rhong. I dare ya

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

what is this faggot tree? (is this meme dead?)

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

after all, a tree is just a bundle of sticks

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Do it @OP

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Please be more careful with your personal information. There's kind of a lot left in these images, and it doesn't look intentional.

9 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 8

Thanks. My full name I know is there, it's on my facebook post & very out of the bag. I did go through and redact unit numbers.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

As a person who has gone through someone stalking me on the Internet into real life always be careful of your real name and where you live 1

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's too easy to get information on someone's whereabouts from those pieces of information. Just want you to be safe op. Take care.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I like you. Good advice.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I like you. Good advice.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Okay, as fast as this is racking up views you were right, redacted my surname too.

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 3

Just so you know, you missed a surname on the end of one of those emails.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

FYI, your last name is still present in the 11th or so image

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

If I was your downstairs neighbor, I'd ask nicely to hike the flag up a bit so it doesn't hang off the balcony by a sliver. But I'm neurotic

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

The downstairs and upstairs are both hers I believe.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh, then no harm no foul

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You were able to hang Halloween decor with no problems. It seems the flag being permanent is the issue. I don't think this is discrimination

9 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 12

Move it around each month and you should be fine, then. If it's not obviously 'permanent'.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 7

Agree, and it seems the likely outcome will be they ban decorations entirely so OP will have proven a point but at a sucky cost to everyone

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

You're not allowed to hang up flags. Either get permission from your landlord, or take down the flag. It's not rocket surgery.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

*Sigh. I get why you're doing what you're doing. Younger me cheers for you. Old ass me thinks, it's not worth the headache/trouble. 1/

9 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 13

Yea old me got downvoted.. Why all the hassle over a flag.. It feels like trolling to me

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

So cheers to you. But I would recommend you stay out of trouble and just look for new arrangements for the future. Good luck.

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 7

I agree. Your decor is terrible and cheezy. Your neighbor's is fine.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

In this case, OP is truly a fag

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Time to step up your game:

9 years ago | Likes 1091 Dislikes 9

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9 years ago (deleted Dec 6, 2016 5:09 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Nice

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Put up rainbow Christmas lights. They can't do anything about that.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Woops, commented before opening the remaining images. My bad.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You've got to be kiddin me....

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Gotta love the popping vein

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

"it's beginning to look a lot like..."

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The guy who designed those lights knew exactly what he was doing.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's beginning to look a lot like Dickmas.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Clever, but wrong type of gay. OP's username is rainbowGIRL

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

That type of gay has entire boxes full of dicks under the bed.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Good point. I withdrawal my theory

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The need a strand of Christmas Tacos.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

hey, the ladies use phallic devices too...just not organic ones.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

GMO ones ?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He will RISE to the occasion.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Nice

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jingle balls, jingle balls ….

9 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

Oh, he will RISE to the occasion.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago (deleted Dec 6, 2016 5:09 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Nice

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What seasonings did you use?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I just made a food of myself at the office, quite a loud involuntary guffaw... YES this would be awesome

9 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 0

Nice

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Soo... were you tasty food? :P

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I was delicious.... I love Irish cuisine... :)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I thought canabalism was crowned pain?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am not a food... *facepalm* I made a FOOL of myself I mean...

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

Nice

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Reminds me of "soak it in wood"

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm not calling you a liar but did you say food on purpose? D: Your name is food and you called yourself food

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

made a food of yourself. name checks out

9 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

I never even realised that lol

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This post is beautiful.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

YOU'RE beautiful. Wait, I don't think I know how this is supposed to work.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There isn't any persecution here. Op broke the rules and is being a crybaby. Your freedom of speech is not bring infringed upon

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 11

They didn't break the rules. Pay attention

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 12

OP did break the rules, but the point is everyone else is breaking the rules too, but only OP is being told to take their flag down.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your rainbow flag somehow destroys other people's living experience but that many lights at night is cool? Nah. That's discrimination.

9 years ago | Likes 207 Dislikes 40

How about a jolly rogers flag? A big American flag? It's not a discrimination issue, they don't want permanent fixtures.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

If there are allowing other (I'll say it) super obnoxious displays to be left up and only upholding their policy on this one then yes it is.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

*They're (I am so ashamed)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Does it matter at all, that op violated rules of the lease she signed?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

If the rule is determined to be discriminatory against a protected class, it's not valid. I don't think op will win this one, though.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Discrimination is perfectly legal as long at it is t against a protected class: religion, sex, marital status, race, age... sexual 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 8

orientation might not be on that list. I can't remember if it is or not. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 5

Depends on the state. She's in California. We're blue all the way and discrimination is not okay like it is in around 28 states.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Depends on the city and or state.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

To be fair OP tries to pass management off as homophobic, but their position is quite clear. Seasonal decorations are ok, not circumstantial

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 22

It didn't say that in the lease. They made that up when OP complained. Fact is, all of these are against the lease, they targeted OP for /1

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

her decorations but no one else, and then when she complained they created a rule out of thin air to let the others keep theirs. It's /2

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

still not in the lease and no one was informed of a lease change. /3

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Yeah, be an adult about it.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

More than likely it is another tenant pressuring management to act this way.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'd move.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Driving the gay tenant out of their home is exactly what management (& likely whoever complained) wants. Moving = they win.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

They win what? There is no specific anti-gay clause mentioned here. Simply that the lease allows for seasonal decorum.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Right, because homophobes are gonna put it in writing. The lease actually made no exception for season decor; the landlord just made that 1/

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

exactly. they dont force you to live there, If you dont like their (somewhat vauge) rules then move somewhere else, they dont have to change

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 8

ah you're pro discrimination. Nice to be able to know. Don't like being hassled for being yourself? MOVE!!!!

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

if "Being myself" is going to violate a rule that, although not originally stated, is now a rule, then i guess I would have to.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

There's a world of difference between "vague rules" and Management changing their minds to discriminate.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

But dishonest bigoted fucks will never admit it, hiding their animus behind "durr, the rules, you must follow them"

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They don't have to change, but they are limited by laws on tenant rights provided by law, and by the terms of lease.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

While true, would they not be able to change the agreement come time to renew to reflect these changes? and im sure those laws would (1/2)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Protect them from having the lease broken on grounds of being / supporting the gay community. and while its a gay flag, it's still a flag

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Key there is "come time to renew", not "as convenient".

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Their position is to change policy when confronted with something they 'forgot.' Put things in the lease if you intend to enforce them.

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 4

How so? Section(i) says no flags. She signed the lease. Managment said nothing about her rainbow lights. Unbelievable.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

It also says no lights, or other decorations, and yet others are allowed those. Did you even look at the post?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

If the rules don't apply to everyone then it is discriminatory.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Honestly makes sense from what I'm seeing... Officially hanging decorations aren't allowed but they allow exceptions for holidays.

9 years ago | Likes 73 Dislikes 23

Just tell them every day is rainbow appreciation day and be done with it.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

There is no mention of the exception in the lease and they have yet to produce the document defining those exceptions.

9 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 15

They don't have to mention exceptions in the lease. And they produced a series of written communications outlining the policy.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 20

If it's not listed as an exception, it can be fought against. Since there is nothing in the lease that says 'temporary seasonal holiday 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Decorations are exception" she technically can fight against it. Both are in violation to the written lease.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Right? It needs to be in the lease

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I mean if they'd only allow an American flag on the 4th of July I'm not sure why they'd allow any other random flags...

9 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 5

The lease is the contract she's bound to. The lease says nothing against flags any time of year so her flag is ok.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

It clearly says no flag in their TA

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

This is a fair point, but it's not formally stated in the leasing agreement. Which is what she asked for.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 4

Right Christmas lights are seasonal but your flag is not. You are not completely right here. Not about hatred or prejudice though.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 7

But it doesn't say in her lease that seasonal lights are permitted. It looks like they just pulled that rule out of their ass.Did I misread?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

A majority of apartment complexes have the same rule. Your analysis is correct. It sucks for her, but it isn't persecution in the least.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I'm gonna get shouted at for this, but you are kind of directly in violation of some clearly stated rules so idk why you're upset

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 13

They aren't, though.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 13

This makes it pretty clear that they are. No discrimination, just a simple violation of rules.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Except they aren't violating the rules. The only thing close is (i), which specifies HOW things can be hung up. Not what.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

1. Nothing allowed on the balcony 2. Only seasonal festive decorations allowed. She's violating both. This says nothing about how it's hung.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Reread it. (i) is incredibly clear.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All this fuss over another flag nobody would care, gay pride flag and Imgur loses their minds. I bet OP is popular with their neighbors.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Really? I'd be pretty annoyed if everyone was allowed to break the rules except me.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 8

Rule I'm talking about is seasonal decoration. Neighbors are clearly within the rules; she was not until the tinsel modification.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

She was also allowed to break the rules for Halloween, so she wasn't singled out - only the non-seasonal decor was.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Its great to know how many armchair lawyers are on Imgur.

9 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 12

This is the internet, almost everyone's an armchair lawyer or keyboard warrior.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a real lawyer, I would like one of these armchairs, please. Also, @OP, I'm a CA lawyer. PM me if you end up needing real help.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

That armchair is clearly in violation of Statute 37364-A18.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Except that the relevant paragraph of subsection A was struck down as unconstitutional in Allen vs The Armchair Alliance of America for 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Infringing on religious freedoms 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A joke about the constitutionality of armchair laws, and you don't say anything about the right to bare arms? I am disappoint.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dunno about bare arms, but we have a right to chaired arms. http://www.urban75.org/photos/england/images/chichester-39.jpg

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Section(f): No Flags. Do I think its ridiculous? Yes. But it was in the contract.

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 8

... section f is about using asbestos contractors.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Correct my mistake. Section (i). Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Section (i) stipulates they cannot hang them by means of screws, nails, and fasteners. If they use safety pins or adhesive, they're fine.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

States no flags.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Op signed a contract. I assume op read the contract. Contract clearly states nothing can be hung from outside of apartment. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Hang the flag in your window. This is simply op trying to make an issue out of a clearly stated rule that she doesn't like.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

not damage the property in any way, and does not violate the rules.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Outside of the apartment "by screws, nails, and fasteners." It is designed to protect from damage. Safety pinning the flag to itself does 1/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I get it, but don't be a dick and ruin Christmas decorations for everyone else. That's the quickest way to have everyone hate you..

9 years ago | Likes 57 Dislikes 23

Management has 2 legal options Enforce for all (no christmas decorations) or enforce for none (flag is okay) OP can't control which.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 5

Slow clap*

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I agree wholeheartedly.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

hopefully they update when decorations get banned for everyone and someone takes a bat to their stuff.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Op is being sensitive about this for no reason other than to claim persecution

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 22

Claiming persecution when you are actually being persecuted is fine, dude.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Fine, I hope her neighbors fly their rebel flags next door or is that not ok? What are the rules on hypocrisy?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

Why would that be a problem? o_o

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

ur transparency of anti-LGBT is loud and clear fucktard. shes facing actual discrimination, and rules not applying equally. u that slow?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Claiming persecution when you are actually being persecuted is fine, dude.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

That would be because OP is legit being persecuted, being singled out for enforcement on JUST their flag. For reasons.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 6

It isn't her building. She signed a lease that has provisions in it specifically for this. She should've read her lease. She is in the wrong

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

She may be in the wrong, yes, but if the rule are the rules, they are there for everyone. Not just her.

9 years ago | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

She may be in the wrong, yes, but if the rule are the rules, they are there for everyone. Not just her.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Landlord here, we don't allow flags cuz they bleed onto the building

9 years ago | Likes 144 Dislikes 17

That is your right as the property owner !! That is america not this fascist SJW bs

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Unfortunately her landlords should have responded with that. Their response thus far shows discrimination :/

9 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 4

@LordNoodles, I think the point is less "I can't fly my flag" and more "I can't but others can, and only because mgmt doesn't like it".

9 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 2

I think it's a little bit of both, Management said they couldn't fly American flags unless it was certain days too. Just decorate rainbow

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

That shouldn't be an issue with nylon flags, which OP's appears to be

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Probably, but it's that no flags are allowed for mine, even nylons. Idk about their lease

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And Christmas lights are a fire hazard. What's your point?

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

As I don't have a personal problem with the flag, flags are obnoxious, doesn't matter the content. Landlord should be able to have control

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

A thousand lights is much more obnoxious than one flag.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

They have control of the contents of the lease. But once signed, it's a two way agreement.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

You just make comprehensive leases. Mines a few pages longer than normal but spells everything out.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I have it on good authority that "these colors don't run". /murrca

9 years ago | Likes 164 Dislikes 4

Yeah they just bleed

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 6

I wrote bleed you stupid twatbadger of a phone

9 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 3

the term "run" is also applicable when referencing the displacement of clothing dye. bruh.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Thanks captain

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don't know what happened here. But it definitely made me smile.

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Indeed :D

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't know what happens sometimes, it autocorrects stuff when I click "send" and it wrote "bored"'instead of "bleed" but now shows "bleed"

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Tons of rentals have policy about hanging flags off balconies & in windows. Owners feel it looks trashy. It's not discrimination, he would

9 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 16

If you don't apply the policy equally to all tenants, it's obvious discrimination. Sucks that these homophobic managers hold the keys.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 9

My landlords think that any balcony decor is trashy... but this year they have a balcony decorating contest. *facepalm*

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because it does look trashy IMPO ;)

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

Have been told to remove a USA/state flag as well. Unless it's up for a holiday. If it were pride week, there wouldn't have been a problem

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 15

My thoughts as well

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 9

My thoughts as well

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

If the OP hadn't found other clear violations of those rules, that argument would fly. They can't single out that flag alone.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

But they showed other examples not acted upon. Singling out their decoration could be used as evidence of discrimination.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

the other examples were all seasonal were they not?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

That could simply mean no one reported the flag. Could be one crotchety anti gay in the apartment, but that's not the rental's fault.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is civil disobedience done right OP.

9 years ago | Likes 344 Dislikes 29

What? Your very confused.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Their very confused what?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

About this being civil disobedience.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Civil disobedience would be to the government, this is just annoying land lords

9 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 9

Ensuring your freedom of expression is not infringed counts as civil disobedience under most definitions.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 8

a clause like this in a lease. The issue here is that it's being selectively enforced by homophobes. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Agreed. In my head I'd file discrimination about expression under the same category but good point that they're legally separate.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

That's the thing. Freedom of expression protects you from the government, not your landlord.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

This isn't a freedom of expression issue. It's a lease violation issue. OP ***IS*** in violation of the lease. It ***IS*** legal to have 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

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9 years ago (deleted Dec 5, 2016 7:57 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Read the second half of my reply.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We'll while fine she is in violation...so is her neighbours. Yet they are trying to justify it. So it is discrimination in some degree

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yes it is. But this has fuck all to do with freedom of expression. Don't turn it into something it's not

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

they may have modified the contract by waiving their right to enforce certain violations. depends on your state law and their actions.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

He would have to have such change in writing.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He would have to have such change in writing.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

depends on the state. in many states, leases can be made orally. you can't increase the formal burdens (require a writing) from the law.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fair point. However, most non-slum lords put the provision in the lease themself as it benifits them to do so. Slum lords don't, because it

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

benifits them to not do so.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

everybody puts what benefits them in the contracts they write. doesn't mean the provision is enforceable, or not subsequently changed. (1/2)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

While I sympathize; you signed a lease. "But others break the rules" is no excuse. This is a poor choice of battlefield.

9 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 40

Nah fam

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 8

Actually, selective enforcement IS a defense. If they don't routinely enforce contract violations, they are null.

9 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 18

At this point I guess Op is ok to be punished, as long as everyone else is also getting punished.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

guess whose tires getting slashed

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

No one's, because that wood be illegal.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Selective enforcement is the definition of discrimination. Either the rules matter or they dont.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I was the VP of our HOA, ran into a situation where our lawyer told us we had no case because the rule was previously and knowingly broken

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Not at all. Of course do as your told, but also hold management accountable for not enforcing the same rules for everyone.

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 5

@OP signed a lease that should be enforced equally or not at all.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 6

I think hardline was the poorest choice.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And he isn't violating the terms of the lease, unless he attached the flag using "screws, nails or fasteners"

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not taking sides, But some places want clean/normal house/select paint colors etc, having any brightly colored item could violate that. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 7

virtually all of those places though allow for holiday exceptions for specific popular holidays. I dont see you "winning" this in any way2/3

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 4

Then they should have put that in the lease. They didn't do that, only specifying a ban on decorations based on the type of fastener.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Yeah, but they could have meant "any way of attaching it". So long as the ban is enforced equally on all, the courts give them a wide berth.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The end will be when the policy is updated with more specific words and you are still forced to comply. This may have nothing to do with 3/4

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

The end will be when the policy is updated with more specific words and you are still forced to comply. This may have nothing to do with 3/4

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

They cannot update the policy and force her to comply. She signed a contract. Until it is time to renew the lease, she is under those terms.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Im a realtor, and can tell you for a fact that an HOA can and often do change/update the rules. They usually have to get approval by 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

those that lives there/whoever is on the membership board(which may not include the homeowners/renters), Regardless renters are virtually2/3

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

the LGBT flag and the fact that its brightly colored and non standard house decor. Try putting up another non LGBT bright flag instead 4/5

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

to see if they act the same. Also causing a problem thats not important may make things worse for you/a target. Not sure its worth it5/5 @OP

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

I think the issue is important to her. Wouldn't have gone to all the trouble if she didn't care about it.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Your complex managers are a bunch of dicks.

9 years ago | Likes 802 Dislikes 53

A bundle in fact

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

celebrate the holidays? i.e. if this was about a sports fan flag or misc decor or something would anyone give a shit? 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

you are missing an obvious point: was it a sport flag, it would not have been objected, in the slightest. It was objected because it's gay.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

That remains to be seen... why make blind speculations

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Really? wow.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Excellent counter-argument

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I thought being a colossal dick was a prerequisite to becoming an apartment manager anywhere... no?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

They all must have complexes or something

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I thought being a colossal dick was a prerequisite to becoming an apartment manager anywhere... no?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Okay I'll go ahead and be "that guy"... it's their complex and maybe they don't want it to appear tacky, but want to allow people to 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I thought being a colossal dick was a prerequisite to becoming an apartment manager anywhere... no?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

They don't want permanent fixtures only seasonal decorations. Simple, any flag regardless of symbology. Unless it's for pride week.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

I thought being a colossal dick was a prerequisite to becoming an apartment manager anywhere... no?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

I would assume "Christian" neighbors are behind this.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I think they are fags

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 6

That was gayyyyy

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

This. Probably Harley fags, just not gay harley fags

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

@op

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

lol, and I my comment gets removed when I said that OP was one

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It could also be the neighbours who are complaining like they're dicks...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why because they ask that she abide by the rules ofvthe lease that she signed?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that she is being held to a different standard because of the aversion to the meaning of the flag.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

I don't think you read past the first couple of sentences. Contract states no flags. Op hangs flag. Op tries to compare flag to holiday 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Decorations. Op states managment approves holiday decorations for approved holidays. Op hangs rainbow lights during holiday and is not 2/3

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Hasseled. Op hangs flag during unapproved times in violation of rules, op is hasseled. Flag has no holiday signifigance.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wrong. OP is being antagonistic and immature. If you want to piss people off, just be a fuckwit and irritate all your neighbors like OP.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

A lot of complex managers kinda need to be dicks because a small percentage of people really fuck it up for the rest.

9 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 3

Those rainbow flags though. Really a detriment to society right there.

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 3

You gotta take a stand. Today it's fruity flags, tomorrow pandemonium and frogs raining from the sky.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

What's next, bestiality flags? Cause if you can marry a dude you can probably marry a dog, or something

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

99.9% of complex managers are dicks.

9 years ago | Likes 182 Dislikes 4

Can confirm.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

True. To be honest though its because 99.9% of people in complexes are dicks that sap all joy from living.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Mine is great! Text monthly to insure there are no issues with my apartment

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Also property managment, all happiness and faith has been drained out of me from my residents

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Anyone ever leave behind anything awful?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've had a lot of real gross apartments, but the most interesting was a meth lab

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:33 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I am a property manager. Can confirm am a dick.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

What's the worst shit you've found left behind?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

99% of renters are dicks too tho

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

99.9% of dicks are complex managers.

9 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 2

Hey if my dick is a complex manager it needs to start paying "rent".

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

99.9% of dick managers are complex

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, not even close. 99.99% of dicks are retail customers though.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hey! I am not a complex manager!

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Guilt Complex... manager? Kidding. Thank for not being a dick?

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

You're the 0.1%

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yay!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm a "complex manager" (property manager in the UK). It's difficult to keep everyone happy but the lease is binding. No exceptions.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

It sure seems that the point of this post is that there *are* exceptions. @OP is complaining not about rules but about uneven enforcement.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I am fully against these complex managers. Clear abuse of power.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago (deleted Jul 24, 2019 11:35 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

If they follow the lease correctly and equally it's fine. Shit like what's above however should be met with bamboo sprouts under the nails.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Can't have those. Says so in the lease.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He doesn't force you to live in his complex.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

You know who *else* didn't force people to live in his complex?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It states with nails, screws, or fasteners. Just tie it by the ends.

9 years ago | Likes 290 Dislikes 7

Yeah, just use those wall hangers that you can pull the tab to release when you're through.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That was my thought too, check this out @OP

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

this is what i was thinking, the language is clearly banning hanging decorations so as to not damage property.

9 years ago | Likes 114 Dislikes 1

Yup. There's not even anything to dispute over as there is no comma before they state the nails, etc. meaning it only refers to that.

9 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 1

@OP this right here^ they are just inforcing that line as to prevent damage to the property.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Spring clamps are your friend. They are like nipple clamps, but for wood and stuff.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Additional option is to get new window curtains that hang inside your rental but visible from the outside.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is how I read it as well. I would argue that as long as you don't use any of those you're in compliance.

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

Also, they must have used some sort of nails or screws to hang those lights....

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago (deleted Jan 3, 2017 3:30 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Did you just assume 'he' is a he? Maybe it identifies as an attack helicopter.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

or mount it so that it hangs off something that is placed on your balcony and does not touch the balcony railings or wherever they prohibit

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

This is a good idea. Cheap bookcase or something with the flag attached.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Clearly state no flags. Not sure what about that is so hard to understand.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 8

Same line also states "string of lights" and "hanging decorations" which are clearly being ignored, op and neighbours are in the wrong tho.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It states that you cannot use nails, screws, or fasteners to put them up. The items themselves are not banned. The damaging methods are.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Safety pins OP. Just hang it and pin it to itself through the gaps in the balcony rail. They can't say you are attaching it to the apartment

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It doesn't say anything about epoxy.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"fastener" epoxy counts

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

they could use those sticky wall hangers. no damage to the wall, and not banned by what is stated.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Those would count as "fasteners," so they'd still be banned. Using the flag itself eliminates any extra "fastener," so is probably the best

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

eeehm, i suppose that is probably what would be said.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ties are technically fasteners. There's no real argument this is in compliance; the point is nobody else is either, and management lets them

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Fasteners aren't ties. Fasteners have a definite technical meaning in this context.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They meant tie it by its own ends. No additional fasteners, just the flag itself.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastener "Items like a rope ... are not generally categorized as fasteners"

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

tying it would be considered fastening. However, a flag-stand (or patio umbrella stand) is perfectly within these guidelines.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastener "Items like a rope ... are not generally categorized as fasteners"

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Based on Websters definitions of fasten and that contracts are in writers favor, attaching it with anything will likely be a loosing battle.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

but in the same part it says it includes flags, since this is a flag it is already a banned item or am i reading it wrong?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It states that you cannot use nails, screws, or fasteners to put them up. The items themselves are not banned. The damaging methods are.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Through your selective cropping, we can all see your full name, city, apartment building, and number. Take care and properly crop them.

9 years ago | Likes 2650 Dislikes 24

@op Maybe check popehat.com . It's managed by an attorney that specializes in 1st amendment issues, and sometimes summons local help to 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

... assist people in the form of like-minded attorneys, many time pro-bono, specially when it'd be costly to sue. They might be interested.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Some of y'all look to hard at things.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sorry for my reading comprehension. v

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Username in full effect, I like

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

This kind of thing should be told in a private message.

9 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 5

Time to send a glitter bomb to her place.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

You're username doesn't disappoint.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

*your

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

I hope the last name checks out...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure the apartment number doesn't need to be redacted. I think I'd find yours pretty quickly.

9 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

Why, what could possibly give it away?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It's by far the most fabulous.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It's the only one without Xmas decorations

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

*gasp!* Oh my word you're right!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Take care 'and' properly stop being triggered.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Found the doucher. v

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Doucher doesn't sound sfw; but thank you for sharing a link I won't click on :)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

It's a gif ya dip. v

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

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9 years ago (deleted Dec 5, 2016 8:09 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Lets people more easily harass and threaten you if they know where you live, your name and all that

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Plenty of people share things here that theyd prefer not be publicly associated with them. Relationship issues, fetishes, mental health, etc

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Username doesn't check out.

9 years ago | Likes 120 Dislikes 4

A comment isn't a reply.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 9

There's replies to his comment.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

+1 because I love Workaholics

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Maybe t of LGBTQ?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I didn't have room for a comment and a gif. My apologies. v

9 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

Hehe. Hi.. ... .... I'll let myself out....

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

But thank you for noting that my apartment number was visible, I thought I'd redacted all of those. They've now all been covered.

9 years ago | Likes 855 Dislikes 9

Disappointed in you OP. You are reinforcing the stereotype of LGBT being overly sensitive. Your aggressive and bigoted responses to Mgt (1)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

were petty and you were the one being prejudice... Thankfully not all LGBT are like you, and some actually use reason > emotion... (2)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Which is respectable, unlike your immature behavior here... hopefully you get it at some point.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

So that's a "No" to the surprise Imgur party then?

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Your full name's still up in #10 on the signature of the email

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Your last name can also be seen in one of the emails you sent, given that you blocked it out before, i doubt you want it

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Whoa. Username checks out

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

In Texas u can hang pretty much anything in ur balcony.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

in texas does it really matter if it's allowed? who'd dare try to take down someone elses flag in texas

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Somebody is probably going to be getting free pizza soon :P

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I would also like to point out that your full name is visible in the response email toward the end.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

H.H your name is still up there

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OP is fucking awesome.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hah gayyy

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your name is in the signature of one of your emails #10.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To be honest you've given enough images to no longer need an apt. number.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Seriously, how hard could it be to find the apartment with the rainbow flag?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm not even talking about the rainbow flag. There's plenty of surroundings.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There are bad peoples on the interwebs. Just want you to be safe. People on this site stupidly froth at the mouth over "SJW types."

9 years ago | Likes 189 Dislikes 11

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9 years ago (deleted Dec 5, 2016 11:51 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Can't speak for everyone but I think we hate people playing the victim. This isn't fucking playing around tho.

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 5

I've seen people labeled an SJW and attacked for it on this site for a hell of a lot less than LGBTQ equality issues.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

How is this any "SJW types" though ? I loathe snowflakes but never once did I think OP is a sjw because it was a well mannered response.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 6

Because to many, anybody who argues anything pro-gay is OBVIOUSLY an SJW. Otherwise you'd just go along with whatever causes less problems.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Exactly. I have the thing tattooed on my arm so I don't agree its SJW. This site would call LGBTQ equality SJW though.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

This is a case of legitimate grievance where OP has tangibly been discriminated against. There is nothing "SJW" about this.

9 years ago | Likes 89 Dislikes 5

I think his/her point is that folks stupid enough to go harass someone probably can't tell SJWness from 'just being a person'.

9 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 4

I can imagine there are people like that, and I don't like them either. "SJW" should not be used so broadly as to have no meaning.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I've seen people labeled an SJW and attacked for it on this site for a hell of a lot less than LGBTQ equality issues.

9 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 4

Which is pretty stupid. Some people would call me an SJW for being a classical liberal. I know they've done it to others.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I have yet to see a workaholics gif in this sting of replies and feel as if I've been robbed of Adam Blake and ders... and maybe Kyle

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I know my full name & city is there, it's been shared more than a hundred times on facebook, so I figure that's out of the bag.

9 years ago | Likes 513 Dislikes 11

I'm also in San Jose, small world. Keep fighting the good fight!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I know where those apartments are!! Another fellow San Jose imgur user! How exciting! :D

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I got two images in and said to myself "Put a snowflake on the flag." Not disappointed with Happy Holidays. +1, @OP

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm proud of you, HH. Fuck them and their dumbass arbitrary rules.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Do you have a link to the fb post? I would share that!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Facebook search Holly Horner San Jose and it's all there.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

were coming for you

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So you already prepared your inbox? He! Hehe ... hehehe

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hahaha, mate, I got to the end and that rainbow light wall is fucking top! Talk about bants. Keep it going, maybe get some of the lads in?

9 years ago | Likes 127 Dislikes 3

Ummm what?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Lol spot the aussie

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I'm English.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

gg

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How the fuck did you type in an accent?!

9 years ago | Likes 82 Dislikes 0

Right lol

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was wondering the same thing! Ha!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's what I want to know.-.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sounds like a kiwi

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm English.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Regional diction and colloquialisms not local to regions without that accent.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Aye, that it is mate. I'm American!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have you never seen Scottish Twitter?

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

Scottish twitter is my most favourite thing.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes but now I have someone to answer my question

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

'course we 'ave ye fuckin' weapon

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0