Dec 15, 2017 11:04 PM
eternalspotlessofthesunshinemind
98601
2047
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Shit aint looking good yo. Thoughts and prayers
miahtSuperVillain
Only 25% of the population cares
YesWithAQuestionMark
Parties aren't actually that powerful. See the GOP's abject failure to stop Trump in the primary. The issue is polarization.
ImOldGreggAndIDrinkBaileysFromAShoe
Ive heard credit goes to Newt Gingrich when he started talking to cameras on the house floor when no one else was around.
reallyoldsandwich
I love parties
epoke
The Nixon presidency. Next question.
OldManOx
When the parties decided the other side had absolutely nothing to offer.
busted88
It hasn't, Republicans flipped to vote against Moore in Alabama and Trump turned traditional Democrat states to him. What are you seeing?
Aaronspark777
the sad part is when a non-pedo barely won against a pedo. Should be a very clear vote when one of the candidates is a pedo.
ItsAGameOfSchlongs
Personally i prefer PsyTrance
Solaralyn
Omg I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought of Country music!
nosoupforoldmen
Are you talking about music mixes or politics?
DickTipPapercut
Thoughts and prayers are soooo helpful...
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Actually, they can be, god(s) not important.
GregEstes33
Media’s fault. We are all about the same and we don’t hate one another.
Crosseyedcockatoo
‘‘Twas when we forgot that the parties aren’t sports teams, and that politicians don’t often believe in what they say.
thanksmonica
Y'all need to interact with more people.
dazedNconfuzed
When you teamed up with others to deny me my rights.
rouverius
I blame Wayne's World
ifthatsaveiledcriticismaboutmeiwonthearitandiwontrespondtoit
That's funny because I blame Republicans almost entirely.
v
I wish I could give this more upvotes, truly.
Always been like that
azazyel
1981
hiImyourcat
The day some one brought vodka instead of whiskey. Only one potatoe alcohol in this country!
rodrigosanchez
what the fuck is potatoe whiskey?
MatrimBloodyCauthon
It's over when we let this become the norm. Fight back. That includes Net Neutrality, don't be fooled by any new provider "plan." Say no.
Putting on a Democrat, Republican, or third party hat doesn’t mean you agree with what someone else wearing the same hat says. Labels lie.
It means you are in favor of identifying with the core beliefs, though.
Username relevant :D
fearandloathinginmichigan
Party!!!! Wooooo!! (Takes shirt off, cracks budweiser)........ I know nothing of politics. :'(
TheBigBastard
When I was a child it started. From Reagan on up it has never stopped.
JustAnotherImgurHuman
i came to party!
THExPILLOx
Idk but was disheartened when I first voted because there was an option to vote all Republicans or all Democrats. No names, just party
AshleyFosf8
That made me disappointed too
nclu
I know someone that puts the party before her pope
Janusha
MOST states dont even bother. They just go with what they always did. American democracy is a farce, a joke.
skolyr
That's because it's a Democratic Republic. We elect the people that make the decisions. Just like...
Americans always hide behind being a "republic" when their shitty democracy is questioned. No. You just have a shitty democratic process.
Yes, I'm hiding with a comparison to the corruption of the Galactic Republic. It's a Democratic Republic, which allows for shenanigans.
Haha allows for shenanigans. The incompetence has reached apocalyptic levels, dude. Youre way past shenanigans
LowFucntioningSociopath
Decades ago.
SirBrendan
One party is free-market capitalists who believe in free trade and minimal social support. The other is the same but also dislikes gays.
Zreen
1791.
USGovernment
I like you.
MurderBear628
That's a bingo.
Murrdogg
http://reparrishcomics.com/post/99951875483/hee-hee-hee-hoo-hoo-hoo-written-by-zach-hanson
chaoschampion
DizzyStupid
Too soon...
MalinorTheMagnificent
I'm guessing 1924... That's when this photo was taken....
leroy666
Dixie-crats?
DrArbitrary
Good thing we ditched the dixiecrats. I wonder what party Strom Thurmond and all his buddies ended up in.
itsprobablysarcastic
kkk was and is Democrats. formed after the civil war to oppose the Republican party's aims at creating political equality for blacks
tanebou
Is no one bother to read the guy's username? Are you all just going to take that bait?
“is”? are you really that dense? “was”. certainly, but them days are long, long gone.
tobs3n89
uhum. look at who condemns the kkk now and who isn't. do the same with blacks. but you will surely find a way to make republicans look good.
lucymax
You seem to ignore the major political shift that occurred in the 1960s. The KKK enthusiastically supported Trump in 2016.
MetaSomma
That's because Democrat and Republican basically meant the opposite then that they do now. Democrat =/= Liberal, Rep. =/= Conservative
TheBlackWindHowls
That's because it doesn't feed into their narrative that Democrats are everything reprehensible in the world.
TheMaestro66
Fucking thank you. Republicans love to throw out these insults AT THEMSELVES, and it pisses me off that they blame dems for their own shit.
AnalFistingPornstarLegendWolverine
Was, not is. Somewhere along the lines a polar shift in ideology occurred and now Dems are WAY less racist than Reps and their base.
MadDrDrillBit
the "big flip" is a myth dems tell themselves, but the big wigs in the party haven't changed, examples? every awful city, look who runs it.
LiBearington
Don't bring up Democrat vote farms, they don't like the implication of minorities exist to vote blue.
George Wallace and his candidacy pretty much ended the reign. of the Dixiecrats.
thanatos777
Yeah, it was DEFINITELY the candidate who prosecuted KKK members for bombing a black church who was closer to the KKK than the one who 1/2
said that our country's best times was pre-Civil War. Uh-huh. 2/2
The only people creating division is the media, they're feeding you a constant stream of all the bad. Go outside, talk to your neighbors.
But the people in the red hats are scary
The world isn't as divided as you think.
AreaOfEffect
It's -2 out, fuck that. If the country burns, maybe it'll be like fall again up here.
CalifDave
That this accurate statement and positive recommendation has received this many downvotes is and indication of the truth herein.
That, sir, is bullshit! You don't remember the trumpet encouraging his minions to beat up protesters. STEVE BANNON!
innagaddavidababy
How is the media getting the politicians to say all that decisive stuff?
PaintedSlate
"The only people creating division is the media" is horrendously wrong. It's even an explicit party strategy since the 90s.
Look, guys, this is a fact. If you think it is only the media, you are unequivocally wrong.
MelanieHovis
fair point that politicians follow media for popularity which equals votes-But your right that politicians don’t HAVE to say decisive stuff
MegaMetal
this, times 1000
Vaanhalen
100% correct. Theyre training you to see race first, be suspicious of everyone not your color or gender, all to sell newspapers/airtime
Would you say the parties could do a better job of not feeding into that narrative though?
Yes they COULD! Doesn’t mean they have to be blamed for acting they way they do, but yes they COULD!
heyguysimtom
The parties feed off of their constituency. The constituency watches the news
Arsikere
it's a viscous cycle
Ew
No, I don't think the parties are really good at anything anymore. They get voted for, then collect government salary for nothing.
Yeah true, all it has become is a constant dogfight to have or maintain power, with not a lot of thought to actual governance
Ninjafromnorway
Completely agree. Every new bill (exceot a few) over the past few decades as been only set forth to spite the other party itseems like
Nah. You can’t just blame the media.
I don’t think he/she “just” blames them. But no doubt they have a heavy influence. The vast majority of its members work in it 1/2
specifically to influence. 2/2
Well, they said “the only people” causing divisions are the media.
And THAT is certainly not the case.
thefrompleman
Whilst I appreciate you are trying to see the light, you are coming scarily close to having lost democracy, just 5 people voted on an 1/2
issue that affects pretty much the entire country, even going so far as to affect other countries as well 2/2
The internet was fine before net neutrality. The free market will insure it is fine after it.
downvoteacct
Say that when your internet starts getting bundled like Cable TV and you have to pay top tier for accessing sites that cost you nothing now.
I'm not quite sure you understand net neutrality if you think this will in any way be beneficial to the free market.
Repealing net neutrality only allows the monopolistic ISPs greater control over the internet, blocking or throttling whatever they like, 1/?
charging consumers more to access certain websites, charging companies and individuals more to have their site on the "fast lane" 2/?
with no limitations imposed they could charge whatever they liked, and for a lot of people, they rely on the internet for an income 3/?
[deleted]
Net neutrality is a difficult topic, it encourages oligopoly. It keeps it very difficult or new isps to build a structure due to local law
That's straight bullshit. The only thing preventing new isps are the existing ones that squash them. I've watched several die that way
Ewraith
No, it doesn't. What stops local ISPs are Comcast at&t and Verizon. NN=all data is equal. Stop parroting provably false talking points.
So you just brought up the oligopies as a defense against oligopies.
No, I didn't. You're reading comprehension is lacking.
HiddenSanity
You stated the government is allowing the Oligopolies, but it's the snowball effect keeping the big companies big. Regulate them.
JustTheMostLiberal
Lol. "It's the big companies that stop the small ones" "Nope, it's the big companies that are stopping them." Fucking gold.
CoBr2
I’ve talked to my friends, worse, I’ve seen their facebooks. It’s not just the media.
It is the Media, to the extent that one can tell when a post parrots the absolute crap the Media invents.
I think the point is that the only way to overcome such an all encompassing polarization of ideals is to connect more with ppl around us 1/2
And learn to be comfortable with people who are different than you, and that humans disagreeing is ok. Let’s find a way to handle disagreein
There's a reason they're still my friends, but nonetheless, I'm occasionally shocked at some of their views.
I think that is perfect. You have friendly relationships with people who shock you. And it’s ok if you shock them too. Nothing to fix.
Agreed. However I don't seem to be able to comprehend Trump lovers. Like, I reject them instinctually. I'm weak :/
Lol they probably reject you too, I found learning about myself had almost by accident helped me understand those I instinctually reject.
larryrathbun
About 20 years ago is what it feels like.
freezingpilot
Citizens United ruling probably. Or when the racist half of the USA lost it's collective mind in 2008 when Obama won the election.
Bananasareagovconspiracy
Newt Gingrich seemed to crank it up a few notches and then refused to ever take his giant head home.
51CorgisInABar
Reagan actually
AvatarTommyBee
My thought, too.
happybread
Gingrich
Party leader control over committees began with him and his bullshit contract for america
Occasionalfunnycomment
I blame Newt Gingrich because party was always important but vote counting used to be a thing then it became strictly party lines or else
Aligatorlog
Lines up with the fall of sov Union. We don’t have an enemy to band together against.
ViolentVibrator
The lobbyists grabbed hold around that time
tacoflavoredkisses
That's right. It's more harsh core than most people understand.
J0765
Try 50
Tavix202
Bullshit. Its been this way since Jackson.
PizzaStation
Yeah, partisanship is relatively new.
DeviatedPrevert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_shutdowns_of_1995%E2%80%931996
ahumblemotherfuckerwithabigassdick
Dot
SheWolf04
Thank you for that source!
xxbiohazrdxx
right around when Reagan literally worked to keep American citizens hostages until he won an election
That's some interesting revisionist history in more than one aspect.
FnordGallop
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bird-conspiracies-october-surprises-20170620-story.html It's a succinct, accurate summary.
Notme68
Reagan, and more so his helpers (Rumsfeld, Carl Rove, et al.) really secured the Republican some because it's Republican mentality. 1
He's the one who started making "liberal" into an actual curse word insult. They also started using insults 2
as actual debate tactics. There beginnings of securing poor/rural/southern voters through false outrage.
proletariatblues
And it's not even party loyalty at this point, it's hatred for the other side. Do Republicans LIKE the state of the GOP right now??
nemisys
Both parties want to spend your money and tell you what to do.
SergeantWea
I've identified as republican for as long as I can remember and I really feel ashamed of my party.I believe in the values detest the leader
Hybris51129
Haven't been happy with the GOP in since 2004 yet when election time comes I still have to choose who'll potentially screw me over the least
Kappa043
Fuck no, that's why the President won. Everyone hates the GOP and how it stands for nothing. It's time for National Socialism- a Third Way.
AGuyWithAMusicDegree
A third way... like a third Reich?
thomar524
You’re a fucking idiot.
I certainly can't stand the Democratic leadership
channelranger
The dem leadership only annoys me with with its incompetence at getting elected.
No shit. That Al Franken crap was bullshit.
As unfortunate as that was, it was required to be able to take on Moore in Al. Otherwise Jones would not have won.
It's sad, but electoral math means gaining Alabama senate seat, while maintaining a democratic seat in Mn. Franken got hosed for politics.
miahtSuperVillain
Only 25% of the population cares
YesWithAQuestionMark
Parties aren't actually that powerful. See the GOP's abject failure to stop Trump in the primary. The issue is polarization.
ImOldGreggAndIDrinkBaileysFromAShoe
Ive heard credit goes to Newt Gingrich when he started talking to cameras on the house floor when no one else was around.
reallyoldsandwich
I love parties
epoke
The Nixon presidency. Next question.
OldManOx
When the parties decided the other side had absolutely nothing to offer.
busted88
It hasn't, Republicans flipped to vote against Moore in Alabama and Trump turned traditional Democrat states to him. What are you seeing?
Aaronspark777
the sad part is when a non-pedo barely won against a pedo. Should be a very clear vote when one of the candidates is a pedo.
ItsAGameOfSchlongs
Personally i prefer PsyTrance
Solaralyn
Omg I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought of Country music!
nosoupforoldmen
Are you talking about music mixes or politics?
DickTipPapercut
Thoughts and prayers are soooo helpful...
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Actually, they can be, god(s) not important.
GregEstes33
Media’s fault. We are all about the same and we don’t hate one another.
Crosseyedcockatoo
‘‘Twas when we forgot that the parties aren’t sports teams, and that politicians don’t often believe in what they say.
thanksmonica
Y'all need to interact with more people.
dazedNconfuzed
When you teamed up with others to deny me my rights.
rouverius
I blame Wayne's World
ifthatsaveiledcriticismaboutmeiwonthearitandiwontrespondtoit
That's funny because I blame Republicans almost entirely.
rouverius
ifthatsaveiledcriticismaboutmeiwonthearitandiwontrespondtoit
I wish I could give this more upvotes, truly.
thanksmonica
Always been like that
azazyel
1981
hiImyourcat
The day some one brought vodka instead of whiskey. Only one potatoe alcohol in this country!
rodrigosanchez
what the fuck is potatoe whiskey?
MatrimBloodyCauthon
It's over when we let this become the norm. Fight back. That includes Net Neutrality, don't be fooled by any new provider "plan." Say no.
Crosseyedcockatoo
Putting on a Democrat, Republican, or third party hat doesn’t mean you agree with what someone else wearing the same hat says. Labels lie.
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
It means you are in favor of identifying with the core beliefs, though.
Crosseyedcockatoo
Username relevant :D
fearandloathinginmichigan
Party!!!! Wooooo!! (Takes shirt off, cracks budweiser)........ I know nothing of politics. :'(
TheBigBastard
When I was a child it started. From Reagan on up it has never stopped.
JustAnotherImgurHuman
THExPILLOx
Idk but was disheartened when I first voted because there was an option to vote all Republicans or all Democrats. No names, just party
AshleyFosf8
That made me disappointed too
nclu
I know someone that puts the party before her pope
Janusha
MOST states dont even bother. They just go with what they always did. American democracy is a farce, a joke.
skolyr
That's because it's a Democratic Republic. We elect the people that make the decisions. Just like...
Janusha
Americans always hide behind being a "republic" when their shitty democracy is questioned. No. You just have a shitty democratic process.
skolyr
Yes, I'm hiding with a comparison to the corruption of the Galactic Republic. It's a Democratic Republic, which allows for shenanigans.
Janusha
Haha allows for shenanigans. The incompetence has reached apocalyptic levels, dude. Youre way past shenanigans
LowFucntioningSociopath
Decades ago.
SirBrendan
One party is free-market capitalists who believe in free trade and minimal social support. The other is the same but also dislikes gays.
Zreen
1791.
USGovernment
I like you.
MurderBear628
That's a bingo.
Murrdogg
http://reparrishcomics.com/post/99951875483/hee-hee-hee-hoo-hoo-hoo-written-by-zach-hanson
chaoschampion
DizzyStupid
Too soon...
MalinorTheMagnificent
I'm guessing 1924... That's when this photo was taken....
leroy666
Dixie-crats?
DrArbitrary
Good thing we ditched the dixiecrats. I wonder what party Strom Thurmond and all his buddies ended up in.
itsprobablysarcastic
kkk was and is Democrats. formed after the civil war to oppose the Republican party's aims at creating political equality for blacks
tanebou
Is no one bother to read the guy's username? Are you all just going to take that bait?
leroy666
“is”? are you really that dense? “was”. certainly, but them days are long, long gone.
tobs3n89
uhum. look at who condemns the kkk now and who isn't. do the same with blacks. but you will surely find a way to make republicans look good.
lucymax
You seem to ignore the major political shift that occurred in the 1960s. The KKK enthusiastically supported Trump in 2016.
MetaSomma
That's because Democrat and Republican basically meant the opposite then that they do now. Democrat =/= Liberal, Rep. =/= Conservative
TheBlackWindHowls
That's because it doesn't feed into their narrative that Democrats are everything reprehensible in the world.
TheMaestro66
Fucking thank you. Republicans love to throw out these insults AT THEMSELVES, and it pisses me off that they blame dems for their own shit.
AnalFistingPornstarLegendWolverine
Was, not is. Somewhere along the lines a polar shift in ideology occurred and now Dems are WAY less racist than Reps and their base.
MadDrDrillBit
the "big flip" is a myth dems tell themselves, but the big wigs in the party haven't changed, examples? every awful city, look who runs it.
LiBearington
Don't bring up Democrat vote farms, they don't like the implication of minorities exist to vote blue.
leroy666
George Wallace and his candidacy pretty much ended the reign. of the Dixiecrats.
thanatos777
Yeah, it was DEFINITELY the candidate who prosecuted KKK members for bombing a black church who was closer to the KKK than the one who 1/2
thanatos777
said that our country's best times was pre-Civil War. Uh-huh. 2/2
LiBearington
The only people creating division is the media, they're feeding you a constant stream of all the bad. Go outside, talk to your neighbors.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
But the people in the red hats are scary
LiBearington
The world isn't as divided as you think.
AreaOfEffect
It's -2 out, fuck that. If the country burns, maybe it'll be like fall again up here.
CalifDave
That this accurate statement and positive recommendation has received this many downvotes is and indication of the truth herein.
leroy666
That, sir, is bullshit! You don't remember the trumpet encouraging his minions to beat up protesters. STEVE BANNON!
innagaddavidababy
How is the media getting the politicians to say all that decisive stuff?
PaintedSlate
"The only people creating division is the media" is horrendously wrong. It's even an explicit party strategy since the 90s.
PaintedSlate
Look, guys, this is a fact. If you think it is only the media, you are unequivocally wrong.
MelanieHovis
fair point that politicians follow media for popularity which equals votes-But your right that politicians don’t HAVE to say decisive stuff
MegaMetal
this, times 1000
Vaanhalen
100% correct. Theyre training you to see race first, be suspicious of everyone not your color or gender, all to sell newspapers/airtime
eternalspotlessofthesunshinemind
Would you say the parties could do a better job of not feeding into that narrative though?
MelanieHovis
Yes they COULD! Doesn’t mean they have to be blamed for acting they way they do, but yes they COULD!
heyguysimtom
The parties feed off of their constituency. The constituency watches the news
Arsikere
it's a viscous cycle
MetaSomma
Ew
LiBearington
No, I don't think the parties are really good at anything anymore. They get voted for, then collect government salary for nothing.
eternalspotlessofthesunshinemind
Yeah true, all it has become is a constant dogfight to have or maintain power, with not a lot of thought to actual governance
Ninjafromnorway
Completely agree. Every new bill (exceot a few) over the past few decades as been only set forth to spite the other party itseems like
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Nah. You can’t just blame the media.
CalifDave
I don’t think he/she “just” blames them. But no doubt they have a heavy influence. The vast majority of its members work in it 1/2
CalifDave
specifically to influence. 2/2
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Well, they said “the only people” causing divisions are the media.
CalifDave
And THAT is certainly not the case.
thefrompleman
Whilst I appreciate you are trying to see the light, you are coming scarily close to having lost democracy, just 5 people voted on an 1/2
thefrompleman
issue that affects pretty much the entire country, even going so far as to affect other countries as well 2/2
LiBearington
The internet was fine before net neutrality. The free market will insure it is fine after it.
downvoteacct
Say that when your internet starts getting bundled like Cable TV and you have to pay top tier for accessing sites that cost you nothing now.
thefrompleman
I'm not quite sure you understand net neutrality if you think this will in any way be beneficial to the free market.
thefrompleman
Repealing net neutrality only allows the monopolistic ISPs greater control over the internet, blocking or throttling whatever they like, 1/?
thefrompleman
charging consumers more to access certain websites, charging companies and individuals more to have their site on the "fast lane" 2/?
thefrompleman
with no limitations imposed they could charge whatever they liked, and for a lot of people, they rely on the internet for an income 3/?
[deleted]
[deleted]
LiBearington
Net neutrality is a difficult topic, it encourages oligopoly. It keeps it very difficult or new isps to build a structure due to local law
MetaSomma
That's straight bullshit. The only thing preventing new isps are the existing ones that squash them. I've watched several die that way
Ewraith
No, it doesn't. What stops local ISPs are Comcast at&t and Verizon. NN=all data is equal. Stop parroting provably false talking points.
LiBearington
So you just brought up the oligopies as a defense against oligopies.
Ewraith
No, I didn't. You're reading comprehension is lacking.
HiddenSanity
You stated the government is allowing the Oligopolies, but it's the snowball effect keeping the big companies big. Regulate them.
JustTheMostLiberal
Lol. "It's the big companies that stop the small ones" "Nope, it's the big companies that are stopping them." Fucking gold.
CoBr2
I’ve talked to my friends, worse, I’ve seen their facebooks. It’s not just the media.
CalifDave
It is the Media, to the extent that one can tell when a post parrots the absolute crap the Media invents.
MelanieHovis
I think the point is that the only way to overcome such an all encompassing polarization of ideals is to connect more with ppl around us 1/2
MelanieHovis
And learn to be comfortable with people who are different than you, and that humans disagreeing is ok. Let’s find a way to handle disagreein
CoBr2
There's a reason they're still my friends, but nonetheless, I'm occasionally shocked at some of their views.
MelanieHovis
I think that is perfect. You have friendly relationships with people who shock you. And it’s ok if you shock them too. Nothing to fix.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
Agreed. However I don't seem to be able to comprehend Trump lovers. Like, I reject them instinctually. I'm weak :/
MelanieHovis
Lol they probably reject you too, I found learning about myself had almost by accident helped me understand those I instinctually reject.
larryrathbun
About 20 years ago is what it feels like.
freezingpilot
Citizens United ruling probably. Or when the racist half of the USA lost it's collective mind in 2008 when Obama won the election.
Bananasareagovconspiracy
Newt Gingrich seemed to crank it up a few notches and then refused to ever take his giant head home.
51CorgisInABar
Reagan actually
AvatarTommyBee
My thought, too.
happybread
Gingrich
happybread
Party leader control over committees began with him and his bullshit contract for america
Occasionalfunnycomment
I blame Newt Gingrich because party was always important but vote counting used to be a thing then it became strictly party lines or else
Aligatorlog
Lines up with the fall of sov Union. We don’t have an enemy to band together against.
ViolentVibrator
The lobbyists grabbed hold around that time
tacoflavoredkisses
That's right. It's more harsh core than most people understand.
J0765
Try 50
Tavix202
Bullshit. Its been this way since Jackson.
PizzaStation
Yeah, partisanship is relatively new.
DeviatedPrevert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_shutdowns_of_1995%E2%80%931996
ahumblemotherfuckerwithabigassdick
Dot
SheWolf04
Thank you for that source!
xxbiohazrdxx
right around when Reagan literally worked to keep American citizens hostages until he won an election
PizzaStation
That's some interesting revisionist history in more than one aspect.
FnordGallop
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bird-conspiracies-october-surprises-20170620-story.html It's a succinct, accurate summary.
Notme68
Reagan, and more so his helpers (Rumsfeld, Carl Rove, et al.) really secured the Republican some because it's Republican mentality. 1
Notme68
He's the one who started making "liberal" into an actual curse word insult. They also started using insults 2
Notme68
as actual debate tactics. There beginnings of securing poor/rural/southern voters through false outrage.
proletariatblues
And it's not even party loyalty at this point, it's hatred for the other side. Do Republicans LIKE the state of the GOP right now??
nemisys
Both parties want to spend your money and tell you what to do.
SergeantWea
I've identified as republican for as long as I can remember and I really feel ashamed of my party.I believe in the values detest the leader
Hybris51129
Haven't been happy with the GOP in since 2004 yet when election time comes I still have to choose who'll potentially screw me over the least
Kappa043
Fuck no, that's why the President won. Everyone hates the GOP and how it stands for nothing. It's time for National Socialism- a Third Way.
AGuyWithAMusicDegree
A third way... like a third Reich?
thomar524
You’re a fucking idiot.
proletariatblues
I certainly can't stand the Democratic leadership
channelranger
The dem leadership only annoys me with with its incompetence at getting elected.
Notme68
No shit. That Al Franken crap was bullshit.
freezingpilot
As unfortunate as that was, it was required to be able to take on Moore in Al. Otherwise Jones would not have won.
freezingpilot
It's sad, but electoral math means gaining Alabama senate seat, while maintaining a democratic seat in Mn. Franken got hosed for politics.