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t4d3jkVillain
I'm wrong
SoupForMyFamily
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
(1/2) It is almost as if Lucas was making it up as he went along, and Lea would have wound up with Luke or Lando if Harrison hadn't signed
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
(2/2) up for movie number three.
servingmytimeinusersub
Disjointed Canon. Starwars was a manual car with an amateur driver. Star trek is the smooth automatic.
Ryushikaze
No. It is not. It is a series of cars, some of which run very well, some of which are moving by virtue of exploding.
TouchMyInfection
S3E8 stretching with Troi and Dr. Crusher. That is all.
Donaldbain
Troi and Crusher, legs spread wide.
Duraxis
Which emotion is “daughter” again? They aren’t mind readers, and even if they were, she didn’t know either
Afewflowers
She was better as a gargoyle
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
MrNardtastic
My angel of the night
astrangehop
Demona?
natabus
Why would an Empath 'detect' that someone is their daughter, when that someone doesn't know it? Empathy isn't 23 and Me.
GrimNyrah
True. He should have been able to tell that she was force sensitive though.
tcpolecat7
JackIsLacking
How was the storm trooper supposed to know that was his daughter? He's just a soldier....
Jamerperson
I don't know if I should save this to my star trek folder or my star wars folder
StingrayV2
I imagined her using the voice impression she was making in the real episode. https://youtu.be/73sgRKrbRas
gtotherizzle
I mean she was only half Betazed.....
ilhares
Right, which is why she was an empath, and not a telepath.
DavidBrooker
Half Betazoid. Betazed is the planet.
smegheadenergy
gtotherizzle
I kept going back and forth....neither looked correct
SpeedBeetle
Troi can do whatever she wants.
als12ReactionCat
Including me.
AndrewS816
Again...
Schmaron
Merdock
Might just be me, but I've never heard anything about Troi being a shit empath and plenty about Vader not sensing his daughter.
DatDarthCaedus
There's mostly just a lot of memes about how she often states/senses the obvious, making her power often be a bit redundant and useless.
bleggs
Maybe he didn't want Palpatine to know he had kids? IDK I haven't read any of the extend universe shit
DatDarthCaedus
It's more just that there's absolutely no way he could possibly sense that she was his daughter, as that's just not how the Force works.
RealScienceMan
That's because Anakin was a sith lord but didn't attain the rank of master.
GWJYonder
I thought he was on the Jedi council?
darkhalfbreed
R/woosh
fdoyl001
Pretty sure you just got whooshed, actually
RedAppleSoda
Swashbuckler101
And stolen!
CapnAndy
Do we give her shit for being a bad empath, or for being a redundant one? Yes, you sense aggression, very good, they're charging phasers
YouTubeRed
It could be worse, at least shes not ghost humper beverly
Eldibs
As long as she keeps her mom off the ship, it's fine.
TheDogEnd
I don't have as big a problem with her being a terrible empath as much as her being a terrible councilor. I mean, I know the writers 1/
TheDogEnd
didn't really know what to do with her character, so they either wrote her in scripts badly or barely mentioned her at all but still... 2/2
Shaows
I'm sure that Troi could recognize her kid if it was taken from her at birth and hidden in some random spot in the galaxy for 21 years. /s
Shaows
Luke was with Leia for 9 months, and they're force sensitive twins. Why couldn't they figure out that they were making out with their twin?
irvingb01
Is there anything canonical that says they*were* making out? Maybe they got a sort of blurry "No, not a good thing" feeling like Marty's >>
irvingb01
mother when they were almost making out in that car.
MurderousCoat
Because that's not how the force works? Seriously it's not omnipotence. In untrained individuals it does jack shit 'cept make one seem lucky
GreatPhoenix
Pretty sure that's why it happened. They felt a connection to each other and mistook it for something else
Pokegeologist
Alabameraan.
mako925
spontaneous9
Counselor Cleavage has a point. Or two.
DamascusFire
I mean Star Wars holds up mostly to nostalgia
Myrealnameisunusual
I disagree. It looks dated but the visuals and music are still on point. And the story was awesome and the extended universe into ESB 1/2
Myrealnameisunusual
Was just mind blowing. IMHO episode 4 stands the test of time as a work of love and genius.
xizar
Grabbed Harmy's despecialized and planned to spot check the download to make sure it took and damned but if I didn't just watch it all. It
xizar
still holds up 45 years later.
BenjyX55
I detect high levels of salt from the other vessel.
reineseele
To be fair that Vader was/is in constant pain a bit inside that suit. That can distract you a bit. ^^'
ItsTwoRaccooooons
I know that if I was in constant pain I'd use choking a bitch as an outlet
INeverWaitForIt
Plus he "knew" his kids didn't survive his little oopsie with Padme. In fact, he may have been told or suspect that Palpatine drained her
INeverWaitForIt
life (and his kids') to save him. That's some Super Star Destroyer levels of guild and repression going on there.
BoboTheIceMan
He spent less time around Luke, and knew he was his kid, and knew when he was on the transport.
BoboTheIceMan
Plus after not being around the old codger for like 18ish years, knew when Obi-Wan was on the death star. Naa, not buying it.
Imallupinthebenz
I thought it was the Emperor that spilled the beans on Luke being a Skywalker to Vader...
DuckedInTheHead
*blinks* ... You didn't watch every movie did you? You're wrong.
PhloydPhan
Troi was essential, otherwise how would we know the scheming alien-of-the-week cackling and rubbing his hand together was hiding something?
SomeGrayFox
And without her who would we have to crash the ship?
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
yo spoilers wtf
SpamYarBlockers
“I sense he’s hiding something” could be a great Troi supercut video
SkamanSam
In olden plays, there was often a person on the side of the stage saying shit about whats going on so ppl don't get lost. That's Troy.
NCPBullet
God damn it now tng is just space Scooby-Doo. That's ruined
irvingb01
If they'd just had her preface her what-I'm-sensing statements with "Just the obvious," the character would've gotten a lot more fan respect
yalczero
I always felt Troi would have been better as an ambassdor instead of a ships counselor.
MeowWoof
"Dianna, take the helm and get us out of orbit" (Troy takes the helm and immediately crashes into the planet)
irvingb01
Well it *is* out of orbit...
jimplaysgames10
I think the massive antimatter explosion happening just to the rear of the saucer section had something more to do with it
wightexile
Twice though. Twice she was piloting the Enterprise and twice it crashed! I like her as a character but not as a pilot
jimplaysgames10
When was the other time?
wightexile
Wasn't she at the helm during the ramming in Nemesis?
MeowWoof
Nemesis (she was ordered to that time)
DavidBrooker
"Empath" isn't Troi's job. Ships councilor is Troi's job. And honestly, she isn't that great at it. Genuinely, Guinan was the best 1/2
Amanda55andcows
Like HR, she was councilor for reasons other than what you think are important. Notice how she kept Ryker distracted, not leading a mutiny.
tracereading
*counselor
1337cat
Troi in Star Trek Voyager did a great job
redditmcredditface
She really should have addressed how much Geordi was overworking himself. Delegate man you may end up falling for a fictional girl. oh wait.
MisuseOfLiterally
haha yeah. Laforge wasnt always in his right mind
Jamerperson
Yeah. For a counselor, I didn't understand why they had her on the bridge. Unless that crew was a flying case study.
TheCrankyCow
The sensing things from hundreds of km away looked useful in theory, if villains in ST were good at hiding plans.
MisuseOfLiterally
Bc she's a main character. Same reason the bridge crew goes on away mission, and why they're also the ones doing the physical tasks around/1
MisuseOfLiterally
the ship. Its a starship holding hundreds of people with 10 people actually working
JerzeeTomato
As a huge TNG fan, yeah she was pretty useless... but at least she didn't f* a ghost.
ButtProblems
You can say fuck, it's okay, no one is going to tell your parents
shdo2199
hey, be erly blew up a borg ship, she can fuck any ghost she wants!
nakedasajaybird
It was genetic, she had to.
DukeDarkwood
She was raped in her sleep by a ball of light once. And kept the baby. For, like, a week.
AnythingMuchShorter
"I keep dreaming of kidnapped through a wormhole, I think it's real" Troi: (knowing stuff like that happens a lot) "it's probably stress."
2074red2074
We don't know what she deals with. Maybe she gets dozens of people complaining about weird sci-fi shit every day and it usually is stress.
ReginaKasteen
Sure, but what are the odds of *two* wormhole kidnapping aliens attacking the same ship?
ThomasThundersword
depends, is it a Q episode?
DavidBrooker
councilor on the Enterprise-D and Troi just read from the manual. Her abilities as an empath were fine, if not useful to the crew and 2/3
StanielRonathan
Troi's powers tended to be the impetus for whatever weird shit was happens more often than they helped solve the conflict of the episode
StanielRonathan
but to be fair, when they were helpful they tended to be framed as invaluable. But on the flip side, yeah we rarely see her actually-
StanielRonathan
doing her official job as the ship's councilor, but that also means don't have a clear image of how good she is at being one, at not-
StanielRonathan
compared to how much we got to see Crusher and Pulaski being doctors with incredibly sassy bedside manner
DavidBrooker
its mission. But she *didn't* use it in her professional role and that's a bit of an oversight. 3/3
whataboutsmee
There's literally an entire episode about her losing her empath powers and not being able to council properly anymore (in her eyes)...
PTKrieg
Troi: required to report you if you say anything too crazy. Guinan: pours you a glass of actual scotch while you admit to anything.
Ronin42
Complaining to Troi about work is like talking to HR about work. They want them to trust them but know you shouldn't really
jackal12345
To be fair to Vader all the jedi sucked ass at sensing things, were in constant proximity to palpatine and had no idea
amoeba15
Also, he was told he killed a pregnant Padme, so he never knew twins were born. Also didn't know she was having twins. He figured out Luke,1
amoeba15
but wouldn't have realized immediately there was a daughter
darkhalfbreed
I thought palpatine told him about Luke and Leia
kingoftheironislands
Palps told Vader about Luke, the son of Anakin Skywalker in ESB, but neither knew about Leia being related at that point
PimpinKen
Leia also wasn't very strong in the force. Luke got the force and Leia got the looks, sass, and brains.
ReginaKasteen
Palpatine just put all his points in lying. It's pretty much his greatest skill.
Kittynomnoms
Also for like two whole movies we hear about how the Dark Side is clouding everything and it's hard to sense anything.
ReginaKasteen
That's how good he is at lying, he gets the Force to lie for him!
stevanot
That was always funny to me. "We can't detect the Dark Side. It is clouded by too much Dark side!"
QuietSilence
This is actually a thing I do as a DM in this one game. You can't use Sense Evil when you're actively surrounded by evil.
stevanot
Nice. You know, I've never tried the Sensing Evil thing. Probably coz' there is always one player who plays edgy assassins or somesuch...
Apeofdeath
CptRobotNinja
Yyyyyyoink
StunttheRunt
Oultnil
This is the kind of Borg I can... get behind.
Arbitro95
When and where are these from?
CafeNervosa
Yes, and yes
DeepFriedAndSanctified
2364 AD. Space...the final frontier.
Zephrman
filben7
She has done full frontal several times IIRC.
xeno426
RLM talked about it one time as well when they watched one of the B-movies she was in.
irvingb01
She was topless fighting a duel (w/ swords) with Faye Dunaway in "The Wicked Lady" (1983). I don't know what the other cases are.
MacClay
Blind Date.
irvingb01
Ah, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086978/ , not the 1987 "Blind Date" w/ Bruce Willis & Kim Basinger (but this one does have Kirstie Alley).
MeowWoof
Unpleasant scene in one of the Death Wish movies
DMSledge
Hollywood is a toxic cesspool. She has talked about how saying no was not an option she had.
Lun4ticH1gh
It's enough to make you question whether ANY sexy stuff on screen in hollywood happens in a way that's healthy/good for the actresses.
OctopusSummoner
There have been a couple movies where the crew had to be in their underwear as well, which sucks for the crew but makes the actress feel ok?
irvingb01
Did any of that happen to her after she had TNG in her resume?
DMSledge
I'm not sure, but some things that happened on Star Trek were not okay. She has done some interviews and talked about things during cons.
Shaows
HoochIsCrazzy
As George Lucas postulated, there are no bras in space.
bonodono1350
That scene was watched MANY times
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Lurch1911
irvingb01
Okay, I *know* I've seen every episode but this isn't registering... is it from the "Insurrection" or "Nemisis" movies? ("Insurrection" >>
rakas90
Season 6, episode 3; Man of the People. The Enterprise transports an ambassador who uses Troi as a conduit for his negative emotions.
irvingb01
Oh, I did see that one; it was just so bland that I didn't remember anything about it, not even this.
Quebeker
Not a movie. Troi is under some influence or something
irvingb01
just looked bad from the promos so I never bothered with it, & after that it was easy to skip "Nemesis" too.)
mrsdowneyjr
I liked nemesis
Shaows
Nemesis is good, all of the even numbered pre-Abrams Star Trek movies are the good ones.
irvingb01
I'll get to it someday, thanks.
LoyalToTheEnd
TurboSloth112
Shaows
SoupForMyFamily
PaintedSlate
SoupForMyFamily
take a meme leave a meme
PaintedSlate
Seotasr7
SoupForMyFamily
Seotasr7
TheSi1entSloth