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morninggloryshade777
Yep. I refused to allow my kid to take on insane debt. Worked tail off, makes 6 figures at a lg intl co. Free tuition for all sb the fix.
justadude41123
Why does this particular idiot get a bullhorn?
updootyourpootsnoot
I remember taking out student loans, it was either do that or quit school - i was 18-19, had no idea what i was signing - TOTALLY fair
tomharringtonair1
Its a different guy.
Tychodin
I can hear his tweets in his voice. Help
AutoFox
My parents had me sign the shit when I was 18. I was technically an adult, but I had no real concept of what it all meant.
AreYouABadPerson
lil' ben's entire career and existence is fundraised by his father. Right down to his ads on facebook being paid for by him. He was
AreYouABadPerson
astroturfed into existence by daddy and has had his entire career dictated for him. It's an extra layer of pathetic for that fuck.
hanmerhack
Ben Shapiro: a dog-wistle in a bad haircut
cbale2000
I mean, to be fair, Shapiro isn't hurting for money, and loan forgiveness is generally an automatic process based on some government program
mitsua
Going to college doesn't garauntee you'll land a high paying job and be able to afford the loans.
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mitsua
Going for a certain degree doesn't garauntee you'll find a job in that field though. In my experience the majority end up different
GhostBoodakaGB
It’s not actually him, I don’t like Ben Shapiro but I don’t support how quickly Imgur spreads false information. It’s a different person
faab64
Ben Shapiro, the most stupid hypocrite of the far right who worship him because he talks fast about things they don't know.
isaidsomethingcool
We were told if we go to college, we’ll get a high-paying job to be able to pay off the loan. Fuck off, Ben
Nanuek
Only people who are born with money should have opportunity. Got it
AghorSaintSoundsCoolToMe
It's a hard nut to crack, but apparently Darwin's theory is still at work, even for humans despite all the angels and welfare theorists yet
basiccricket8444
Darwin's theory was never meant to be implemented on the individual level but species level. It also solely deals with reproduction
AghorSaintSoundsCoolToMe
That's the whole point, we've reproduced like crazy despite being a sizeable territory conscious species, and now nature is suffering.
Flames99Fuse
Evolution is all about survival odds in current environment. The environment we've created makes life harder for those without wealth.
ErudiousRex
Yet we love to defend our favorite wealthy people when they whine about rich people problems.
ConstantBitRate
Flip it. You made a risky loan and lost, you should just take the loss and move on. But we already know that banks/lenders rely on bailouts>
ConstantBitRate
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_credit_crisis_of_1772-1773
therealamericanpie
Oh my god, fuck that guy what the fuck ffffff
callingcwordsthecword
Not so controversial: he's a cunt
Jace99
Won’t a lot of Republicans’ kids benefit from this too? Maybe their kids should turn down the money to prove they’re not total hypocrites.
jrntn
Man, I remember the days, a few years back, when imgur was all "actually Ben Shapiro is one of the reasonable ones. His arguments are solid"
jrntn
And let me just say how FUCKING relieved I was when imgur finally, FINALLY turned on his nazi ass
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jrntn
It worked for Netanyahu
WhiteTrashPrivilege
Fuck Ben Shapiro. Cunt.
search4bigfoot
Your brain isn't even fully developed until your mid 20s. These loans are intended to prey on naïve children with big dreams.
kaminekochan
Unregulated capitalism is what forces people to sell themselves. People are being preyed upon for profit now literally before they’re born.
search4bigfoot
We could easily make college dirt cheap or free like other countries. Instead it got turned into yet another predatory lending scam.
IMCastorTroy
"But I COULD have paid that loan off." - Ben "I've never met a pussy I couldn't dry up" Shapiro
JohnnyBravo40
Exactly. So he should pay it off. Why does someone who can pay it off get forgiven? Like wtf. And if he couldnt then, he can now. So pay up
WeSurvived45
Is this true? I want it to be true. Ben Shapiro is a complete douche and so are his followers.
Rainbowdaesh
A douche is actually capable of making vaginas wet though.
cbale2000
TBH, it was probably a federal COVID "Paycheck Protection" loan, which ALL businesses had forgiven as long as they used it in certain ways.
cbale2000
While they framed those as "loans", that was basically only an enforcement mechanism to ensure the "free money" got to the employees.
kaitco1984
Right? I’d like to know if this is accurate.
PoorBoyChevelle
https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/ben-shapiro-4983988403
VitaminJay
Wierd way for Benny to say 'you were born poor, fuck you for trying to better yourself, stay in your fucking hole, Poors!'.
mikeatike
And also, "I was born rich, so I deserve handouts. Also please send me foot pics."
VitaminJay
Mike here gets it.
VitaminJay
...unlike Benny. :D
mistermixelpix
Even worse, it's blaming the teenager instead of the bank that gave a six figure high interest rate loan to a 17yo with no job.
VitaminJay
Here's a hot one; Less bombs, more food, spend that money on lifting everyone.
countbassy
Yep
Jace99
Maybe Benny should insist Republicans pay off the 7.8T in debt they racked up while the orange turd was in office then.
VitaminJay
Well, he's paid by them, so no. He won't do that...
digsdugs
An expensive degree isn’t the anecdote to being born “poor.” Trades are in high demand right now and, as a former tradesman turned…1/
digsdugs
…turned small businessman, many of my friends have become “wealthy” on their trade / small business- even starting from nothing. 2/2
VitaminJay
Any education is good. Trade schools aren't free, either. I want you to go into the F/Aid office and they say 'cool, got it covered.'.
countbassy
I joined the IBEW 37 years ago. Free training. Dropped out of college. I have no regrets
VitaminJay
I was a Teamster for 10 years, my grandpa was over the moon when he heard I joined.
countbassy
Building America
mondeca
Placing all the blame on the student. As if predatory lending practices don't exist.
PoorBoyChevelle
Bank won't give you a loan for a tangible asset like a house if you have low credit, but will give a jobless teen a huge loan, no collateral
fractalsphere
He should've applied that logic here, too. But he was all about wall street & hedge fund manager bailouts
fractalsphere
And those folks had more than enough money to pay back their stretch loans.
HankScorpioCEOofGlobexCorporation
Turns out this is actually a different Ben Shapiro. https://twitter.com/retnap/status/1562180319150841856?s=20&t=5yR-fatHfLGfftnWzo8C9g
MyHarryPotterHasHogwarts
What? How many Ben Shapiro's are there???
YouAreTheInsultMaster
One too many
wmzer0mw1
Ya thats what I read too. Also, Scorpio is the best Simpsons character<3
VenomSnek
Imho, best character and episode of the Simpsons
WeSurvived45
We live in a third-world country. Healthcare for profit. University unaffordable. Guns everywhere. Greatest country on earth my fat ass.
tacticalbark
And my flat ass too
Blackfinity
I think the term you're looking for is "banana republic." Or maybe "shithole."
Lisekmaly
Seems like you know where to start and whats your goal, now comes the hard part: getting to that goal. Best of luck USA.
SarcasticComment
"if you don't like it leave." "that takes money and I live in a hellscape."
Hurch
Don't forget privatized "correction facilities". The same people who decide whether or not you get out are the ones paid to keep you there.
Crowlands
And it's Legalized Slavery.
Cloudraker
Third world actually has nothing to do with a countries economic capability and everything to do with political alignment during cold war.
Crowlands
In the 1300s, "Nice" meant "foolish, ignorant, frivolous, senseless". Words evolve.
Cloudraker
Yeah, they do. But in this case third world was never actually intended as derogatory.
AbstractArtemis
But it is now. I think that's what they're saying
Cloudraker
Yes, and I do grasp that. I guess my point would have been better made by simply stating that not every one looks at it in the newer, more
INeverReadTheTOS
The hypocrisy is on purpose. It's the point. Conservative ideology is literally built on different rulesets for different groups.
Cthulhuchooseyou
Which is why we call it out and the people doing it every single time. Can't work in the shadows if there's a spotlight on your ass.
YourMomWasHere
Right-wing politics: where hierarchy is the dogma.
crapybarra
Ol' Ben's gonna be in a world of shock when he finds out which people his friends the neo-nazi's are gonna wanna shitcan first...
suiseiseki
All Conservatives Are Bastards
ALG0RIDDUM
there's money in being a professional asshole
GiddyJack
Yes. You get to feel good about doing bad things yourself because you’re punishing others for doing said bad things - canceling it out.
NEUOLDMAN
Exactly, and calling them out is next to useless because they have no morality or shame. They just lie, project, deflect.
Sechran
Nah, it's not on purpose - it's just incidental. They just do whatever is more convenient for them, and if it's contradictory, so what?
Sechran
The benefits of the inconsistency are more desirable and useful than ideological coherence. It's self-centered pathological pragmatism.
theshinobi23
I partially agree, but if it was just to give themselves benefits, they wouldn't need to persecute others so harshly. The discrimination is
theshinobi23
Completely on purpose, to keep their poor followers focused on the wrong enemy, and the hypocrisy is built-in.
thekeyofe
JustAPlaceHolderUntilICanThinkOfABetterOne
as much as I dislike the guy, https://twitter.com/jap106x/status/1562400864144433152 looks like it's a different Ben Shapiro.
MadCat221
Ingroups and Outgroups. The law protects but does not bind the Ingroup, and the law binds but does not protect the Outgroup. That's why>
MadCat221
>they're all having shitfits over the Feds paying Mar-a-lago a visit.
AwesomeName
And they always think that selling out their neighbor will ensure they'll be in the in-group.
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Because they're fucking terrible people.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
1) I know a number of people like him. They're not evil, they're just sheltered, and their failure is their unwillingness to challenge their
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2) own worldview. But I can't even get too angry at them for that, because it's a universal human failure. Nobody wants to do it.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Except that's bullshit. Many, many people do it. Some just don't want to, or are brainwashed not to. Both of the latter need to stop.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
1) People who challenge their own worldviews are people to whom life has given reasons to do so. The trouble with people like Ben is that...
JohnnyLawlessEsq
2) they are rarely given those reasons.
DocWats
You can't. I can. Fuck these people. Let's not act like Shapiro isn't doing this shit for his base. He's willfully malicious. Don't coddle
JohnnyLawlessEsq
What base? He's not a politician. He's a professional mouth. You're doing it, too; refusing to rethink your view of someone you've never met
ABillionDucks
You think Ben Shapiro is sheltered?
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Yes, I do. How else could someone that smart be so far up his own ass?
ABillionDucks
Because it pays
idiotcube
Sheltered AND evil!
TheEvenPrez
Yep. It’s the group that insists companies don’t have to serve lgbtq customers then gets mad at minority safe spaces.
CrossEyedPigeonToed
Just a heads up, this sentence doesn't make sense.
TheEvenPrez
The tldr is conservatives didn’t want to make a gay wedding cake, but flip out when private companies have representation for being “woke”
DocWats
Nah it reads correctly. Maybe missing a comma before then but that's it
HeirElfSquire
"NIMBY" -GoP
TheMouseOfMadness
"NIMBY and NIYBY either!" - gop
HeirElfSquire
George Carlin still applies...sigh
CoqRoq
What is a NIMBY?
straymutt117
Not in my backyard
CoqRoq
As in "I don't want this anywhere near me"?
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DonkeyGoat
So if you can't afford to go to school, don't?
AwesomeName
Always remember: it was illegal to teach negroes to read.
parkway
and now you hate flipping burgers and want more money? Should have gone to school, you idiot.
jimmythehat1
There’s a reason why zip code you’re born into is a strong predictor of future success.
Chalybos
Yep, ignorant voters and an uneducated work force providing cheap labor. “Conservative” paradise.
RustyRedbeard
I think that's the short and skinny of it. No offence, Shapiro.
joe6paques
And if you can’t afford a house, don’t take out a loan to buy one.
cbale2000
Houses act as collateral and build value, degrees offer no collateral and the value (but not cost) depends entirely on the field of study.
MultiOfPersonality
And if you can't afford a Dr, just die you filthy stinking poors! /s
INeverReadTheTOS
That's literally the GOP's goal, yes. A world where only the 1% are allowed an education.
KrampusCopia
Don't forget this is how college started. Only super wealthy ppl could go. Only recently did us poors get the opportunity to go to college.
DonkeyGoat
But...but... they don't even use it
RednapxpandeR
cbale2000
It's more, "If you can't afford to go to school AND the degree you're trying to get won't earn you enough to pay back the loan, then don't."
urboyevan2
You seriously defending Shapiro? Because he’s a fucking idiot.
cbale2000
I mean, this is a common argument, regardless of the conservative you talk to.
cbale2000
IE, don't spend $100K+ on a liberal arts degree that qualifies you to be, at best, a barista.
parkway
Some wild wacky example known to be a mega stretch, to try to prove a point. What year is this?
Frederf
what a tired Limbaugh era lie
cbale2000
https://www.edsmart.org/most-useless-degrees/
cbale2000
https://www.forbes.com/pictures/fgek45hg/the-least-valuable-college-majors/?sh=26d21c9555ec
cbale2000
https://www.businessinsider.com/least-valuable-college-majors-2018-9#9-mass-media-2
TXWhackamole9
Except that, for instance, a music degree lends nicely to learn programming, particularly composition. 1/
cbale2000
Sure, by a music DEGREE does not help you get a programming job. Knowing music may make you a better programmer, but no degree is required.
cbale2000
You can get private music lessons for a fraction of the cost of what a music degree would be.
TXWhackamole9
And are these salaries jobs in the major field or just generally? The methodology is lacking here and different by article.
cbale2000
The Business Insider article cites data from the US Census Bureau and considers average income and unemployment for a given field. The...