Longsword buildalong

Oct 9, 2015 2:32 AM

Carolean

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The Blade

The blade that I'm using for this project is a Hanwei/Tinker longsword blade that I ordered from Kult of Athena. It's 5160 Marquenched spring steel (meaning that the steel is quenched and tempered in a molten salt bath, as opposed to conventional oven tempering). The business end is 36" long and the tang is 12" long and a beefy 1/4'' thick. The tang is threaded, but we won't be using it for this project.

It was about $100 delivered to my door.

Another shot of the blade.

Notice the fuller- it functions much like an I-beam. It lightens the blade without an undue compromise in strength. Earlier swords had much more pronounced fullers. This blade would belong in the late medieval or early renaissance period, and is primarily geared towards thrusting, as opposed to slashing or chopping.

The pommel blank

It's a great big lug of 1018 steel. It's a piece from a hex bar, and I think it was 1.75'' in diameter.

Just another (blurry) shot of the pommel.

Pommel and guard material

The longer pieces will make the crossguard- the part of the sword that separates your opponent's blade from your hand. They're bars of 1018 steel, .75" thick. The material for the pommel and guard were ordered from Online Metals.

I ordered two of everything because I am notoriously prone to screw-ups of legendary proportions.

Beginning to fit the guard

I drilled a few holes into the bar and opened them up into a rectangular slot with some needle files so that it fits the tang.

A little more progress.

Fitting it further.

I've also done some grinding here.

More grinding.

At this point, I've stopped fitting the guard further up the tang.

The final fit of the guard to the tang will be accomplished with a big sledgehammer.

Some more grinding.

I didn't really know what I wanted to do with the crossguard at this point, so I just sort of went to town with my belt sander and files.

More grinding.

Still more grinding.

I had finally settled on a profile and cross section that I wanted to use for the guard. It fades into an octagonal cross section towards the tips of the guard. This was largely done with draw filing, as I was worried about removing too much material.

Getting there.

The guard is pretty much evened out at this point.

Not bad.

Yeah, I'm showing off.

The blade shoulders

Here, I'm beginning to cut the slot for the blade shoulders to rest in when the guard is fully seated. It creates a pleasing transition from hilt to blade when the sword is fully assembled.

Getting there.

I used a Dremel and a set of needle files for this, and it was just as much of a nerve-wracking pain in the ass as it looks.

Ready to be seated.

Guard is seated.

To do this, I clamped the blade in a padded vise and slid on the crossguard, followed by a steel pipe.

I followed the steel pipe with many blows from a colossal hammer.

This force-fitting method is how Albion assembles their swords, and how most decent swords would have been made in the olden days.

At this point, the sword made a beautiful, clear ring when tapped with a hammer. This indicates that all parts are tightly fitted and are vibrating as one unit.

Beginning work on the pommel

I buggered up one of the pommels, so I sent this one off to be bored on a lathe.

This is called a "scent stopper" pommel, so named because it resembles the cork, or "stopper", on a bottle of "scent", which is what we plebeians would call perfume.

Refining the shape

After several hours with a belt grinder, it's starting to look alright.

It was really challenging to keep all six facets even and also concentric to the hole through the center.

In this shot, the semi-completed pommel is just resting on top of the tang.

The finished pommel.

Excuse the sub-par photography- I largely work outdoors, and it's hard to see the screen of my phone when I take a picture. It's sort of a shot in the dark.

The tang has been ground to a round profile to accept the pommel.

The pommel is "keyed" to fit the tang, so that it doesn't slide around once the sword is assembled. This is done by filing the hole in the pommel to a slightly rectangular shape, so that it fits on the first half inch or so of the tang after the rounded-off section.

Notice the countersink on top. This is done so that the tang has somewhere to go during the...

Hot peen.

The tang is passed through the pommel, which is then seated in a manner similar to the guard. The protruding tang is then blasted with a torch and hammered, or "peened" into the countersink, firmly locking the pommel in place.

In the interest of full disclosure, I must confess that the crossguard came loose during this operation (wailing on things with a hammer tends to have that affect). I corrected this by fabricating two small wedges that were then pounded between the crossguard and fuller and peened with a center-punch so that they mushroomed out against the tang. Even through some test cutting and fencing drills, the guard has yet to loosen up.

It's not at all uncommon to find medieval swords that have the crossguards wedged in this manner- some swords even have bits of wood jammed under the guard.

The wooden core

I didn't get many pictures of this process as I was operating under a time constraint, but the core is comprised of four pieces of 1/4" poplar. They are arranged in such a manner that they encapsulate the tang, which is also 1/4" thick. Two pieces sit on either side of the tang, aligned with the crossguard, and then one piece is fitted atop these two, and another is fitted to the "bottom" of the assembly.

Alternatively, you can use what's called a bifurcated core, which is just two pieces with a cutout for the tang.

Hemp cord underwrap

After I'm satisfied with the grip shape, the wooden core is painted with glue and then tightly wrapped with hemp cord. This not only strengthens the grip, but also adds extra detail and definition to the leather overwrap.

Just another shot of the cord underwrap.

You can see my attempt at making a riser if you look near the guard and the pommel- that's a piece of leather lace glued onto the core. It didn't turn out very well, but it's supposed to aid in grip and generally look nice when the sword is finished.

The grip is wrapped in leather.

I fought with this for a long time before I decided to do something a little unconventional.

Most production swords (with the exception of Baltimore Knife and Sword) are wrapped with one seam in the leather, which often runs down the side of the grip. I could not, for the life of me, get the leather to behave properly to do this.

Instead, I cut a long strip of leather and spiral wrapped the grip.

To wrap the grip, I soaked my leather in warm water for a bit and then painted the hemp-covered core with wood glue, then anchored one end of the leather with superglue and wrapped it.

Next, I took the same hemp cord and tightly wrapped the entire handle again while it was still wet (leather forms when it is wet). This compresses the leather into the glue and also leaves a nice, ridged surface, which aids in grip.

Finished grip

The grip has been dyed and cleaned up a bit.

All done.

Sharpening was done with 500 grit paper backed with a scrap piece of wood. A sword shouldn't be sharpened to a knife-like edge, but rather an "appleseed" or convex edge. This is a thicker edge that is designed to shear through heavy targets (i.e. arms) without undue damage to the edge.

Just another glamour shot.

And that damn hammer has photobombed me again.

The point of balance is about 3" or so from the guard, which is about right for this kind of thrusting longsword. Feels nice and agile in the hand.

Not sure how much it weighs, as I don't have a scale that can weigh it, but I'm guessing that it's around 2.5 or 3 pounds.

One last shot.

This was my first sword that I've ever built (and first imgur post!), and I learned a lot.

I just thought that you guys might enjoy the fruits of my new hobby.

I'd love to hear some critiques or questions.

Till next time.

Front Page Edit: Wow, thanks Imgur! You guys made my day! I'm glad you all enjoyed it. I'll be sure to document the next build in the same manner.

10/10 would get stabbed by someone charging into battle.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The crossguard is a little short for how long you made the hilt, but overall fantastic work!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You have my sword. Give it back.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

10/10 would charge into battle with.

10 years ago | Likes 150 Dislikes 2

10 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 4

This guy should be Imgurs official blacksmith

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pro tip: stick them with the pointy end

10 years ago | Likes 223 Dislikes 2

Pro indeed!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Do you know how to use that thing?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29FXtcCY8C0

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is fucking amazing OP

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thank you.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Came for the tang, stayed for the hot peen.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Bro. Underrated comment.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Curse yee downvote fairy, what did this post do to you? I will avenge thee, comments!!

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

Hot peen is my grindr name.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Hah. Gaaaayyyy

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I personally feel awkward about the guard leading the opponent's sword aside, but I know guards existed that actually bend backwards so hey.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Instructions unclear. Can not screw off pommel and throw it.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

If I had a nickel for every moron who thought the fuller was to 'let the blood out'... I would be a rich man indeed.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hey OP, how much does it weight?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Somewhere around 3 pounds. I don't have a scale to measure it.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

I want to eat it

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

0/10 would not recommend

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Aragorn is moderately impressed.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Updoot for banana.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damn son. You should make and sell these. I wouldnt buy one because I'm too broke, but seriously, theyre awesome. Put this shit on etsy, yo.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Looks like a Witcher's blade. Nice.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Take me.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Lol "hot peen"

10 years ago | Likes 111 Dislikes 1

I'm sure he/she/it can get as much hot peen as he/she/it wants from anyone capable of providing said peen.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Another *sensible chuckle*

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*immature giggle*

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I hit myself in the eye with a hot peen the other day. I'm a blacksmith, and I got into a fit with my work table... And lost terribly.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Juicy pen?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a metalworker, God I can't count how many time I've heard that

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

times, god-fucking-dammit

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I bet you gave the girl an orgasm when you lost your virginity, meaning you did a great job the first time around. Beautiful!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

you going to make an Etsy store so we can buy one?

10 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

When you ship it to people you should stick it in one of those huge fake yard rocks to really top of the effect.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Can we petition for that?

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

we can try ^,^

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

TEACH ME YOUR WAYS. Where did you learn to build swords?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I read as much as I could online and thought it through as best I could and just did it.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Looks great. Is this a type XVIa blade? The quillions are a little short for my taste, but it came out really nice anyway. Great job.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I'm not very familiar with the works of Oakeshott, but it looks similar to a type XVII from what I can tell. I concur on your quillon quip

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Ah yeah, XVII looks about right. I usually go by this guide when classifying: http://www.albion-swords.com/articles/oakeshott-typology.htm

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That's actually the sketch that I was going to model this blade from- the Sempach. Aside from the hex cross section, the blade is identical.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Oh, I actually see the resemblance now. Aside from the quillions, it's very similar anyway. Ah Albion... so beautiful, so expensive.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

3 pounds?? what? I must know nothing about swords, or have the length off in my head. That seems ridiculously light.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

People are often surprised by how light medieval swords were. It is indeed four feet and still a little chunky in some dimensions.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Damn. I thought longswords were supposed to be quite heavy, really-- that one's only a foot shorter than me... 3 pounds. Goddamn.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Do a slow mo gif of you destroying a pumpkin with it. Then I'll upvote the shit out of it.

10 years ago | Likes 553 Dislikes 2

@OP yes you must do this

10 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 0

House has spoken.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

so say we all.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I always upvote Star Trek.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I would love to, but I don't have a camera other than the one on my phone.

10 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 6

Get your mom to film it. Ask her for the nicest carved pumpkin.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

just do it. without filming if you must. but do it

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

GOPRO FAM

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You, sir, have a great idea. But he should crave the pumpkin first.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

With the sword.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Eh, I'll pass on that. I don't like pumpkins.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I'm cravin that pumpkin right now!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Didn't even realize that mistake... How embarrassing

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

First yo must crave the pumpkin, BE the pumpkin.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Alright guys, I'll cobble together some kind of tripod for my iPhone and buy a pumpkin. Then I'll have to figure out how to make a .gif...

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Aw yis. OP is going to deliver.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You are so much better than we deserve.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sorry mate. Sold the sword back in October, didn't get a chance to do anything with it. Almost done with another though.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Cool! Good luck to ya m8

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Well done. If you ever want to learn how to use it, let me know.

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

a challenger appears!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I really wish there was a HEMA chapter near me, but there isn't. I can go through a drills and cut some water bottles, but that's it :(

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

You should do an informational post!

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

What exactly do you want to see in an informative post?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I guess just basic stuff in the use of this type of sword, if that's what you meant in your comment. Basic stances, strikes, and blocks?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've been working on something like that for a while. It's taking time to do filming and so on. Even blocks have 5 different types.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

HEMA?

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

HEMA! Ochs America in Florida.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

HEMA, EHMS, Espoo, Finland :) just started, so I'm still a newb...

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

HEMA! MEMAG in PA/NJ.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

HEMA! New Hampshire KdF in Nashua NH!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The fact he thinks it's mostly for thrusting and not cutting says all you need to know about him -- he has no idea how to use it.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 9

Anyone who agrees with him really has no idea how to sword fight.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

Nobody is born knowing how to use a sword, and there is incorrect information out there, case in point you think halfswording is 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

How about you dig through that post and tally up every single instance where I professed to "know how to use it"?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well you put information about how it was used, meaning you think you know how to use it.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

The fact that you think he's wrong says all I need to know about you -- you have no idea how to use it.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why do you think I am offering to teach?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I do, over a decade of sword fighting experience. You really think over half of the blade work you do isn't with the cut?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Not against late medieval armour you don't. Halfswording and using the point is the only way to reliably get past plate.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There are a few dozen ways to get past the plate. Half swording is retarded for a number of reasons, mainly that you lose range.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

He has an idea, but that's it.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sure isn't the right one.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

"retarded" HEMA shouldn't be able belittling others for their ignorance, but rather trying dispell those misconceptions through teaching.2/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is, you lose range far far too much when you do that. Far better to take your parry full length, step into it, then go half sword if you

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

really, really have to.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But if you're armoured as well, range isn't so much an issue. Unless you're assuming unarmoured against an armoured opponent.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0