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My wife got taken to the hospital for thoughts of suicide two days ago, and she’s doing ok and she can get out tomorrow around 8 pm per their 72 hour clause. We are living with her Spawn Point (mother) and her SP has a habit of going nuts every few years, switching to a personality called Ellen (Ellen used to beat her kids with metal yard sticks and throw lit matches into the kids rooms saying “if you won’t clean up I’ll burn the room off the building” and caused fire damage to clothes and shit) and Ellen is out and being abusive, enough so it caused my wife to collapse like that. Ellen doesn’t care either she thinks she’s a saint.
Our credit is meh but not good enough to get a house loan. We have a prior eviction from two (this October three) years ago and it stays on your record for 7 years apparently, so no housing place will take us. I’ve looked into second chance housing links and most seem to be scams. Ellen is t going to change since she’s “full of righteous anger” and she’s gonna possible cause the wife to relapse again.
We have two small kids (2 and 4) and they are confused as to where mommy “is hiding” and they wouldn’t understand why she’s not here (I told the older one she’s at a hospital coz her mom mad her super sad). Oh and since the wife is a school bus driver she possibly lost her job due to this hospital stay.
I almost don’t have the will to live myself anymore. I don’t know what to do. We trying DCH (a state run tri county housing place) but her words were “since you’re already with family we can’t do much”...
I have no outlet to vent. Ellen is acting like a victim for mentally abusing her daughter. I’ve never said this before but, I can’t even.
I just can’t. Sorry for the bitching but it’s equal to me screaming into the void and I had to relieve pressure somehow.
Edit: I forgot she has an Imgur account coz she was hoping to take advantage of free pizza and groceries and I don’t know if she knows my username. Should I delete this post?
Another edit: talked with the wife, she’s in good spirits and feels bad for “talking stupid and getting taken”. I assured her it wasn’t stupid and we will reduce her stress. We will tackle this situation as a team and despite two years of no luck, we will find a place coz we have to.
Yet another edit: thank all of you for the support and the encouragement. Uphill battle both ways ensuing but it is what it is. I’m trying to remain neutral so that I can keep a roof over the heads of the kids.
Update: whilst Ellen is still being herself she finally realized how people were perceiving her and she’s done a 180 back to being nice. We found a place, a modular home in fact. The only way we managed to get it was having stimulus stuff come our way, or we woulda been knee deep still. We’re waiting just days to be free and to be home again after 3 years. Then today my cars engine died....were hoping it’s not as bad as it sounds. Never a dull moment.
iCurse
Look into forced admission for her mom, someone like that shouldn't be without treatment. Also get your kids out by any means necessary.
GrandPubabofMoldistan
Social workers at the hospital might be able to help
DemogorgonDog
Be careful with her having an Imgur @OP. She may get suspicious. Please stay safe and give a listen to the helpful folks on here. <3
AllieRiot
I hope you can find the help you need. 302 looks like a good option? Hang in there and tell us if you need something.
ShutTheFrontDoors
I honestly have no suggestions and no way to help — here’s an upvote so someone who can might see it.
MegatronPewPew
I appreciate it believe me
sparkletempt
Get this guy to FP so someone can maybe help out
MegatronPewPew
Ty
maelennfromterokkareu
Wish I could hug you. I wish you luck and strength and a bit of happiness dammit.
MegatronPewPew
Thank you, vibe appreciated
BulgogiBolognese
Not sure but maybe some women's shelter could help to at least get your wife and kids to safety 1/
BulgogiBolognese
Might not be ideal as you might have to look somewhere else but they might point you towards other resources
IamGiraffeDiver
Sounds like shitty country you're living in. Hope things will get better for your family.
kroetoj
@op can't do much for you 'cept the imaginary points. Think of the kids. They will get you through and through you'll get.
Cassiopeia1023
Have you thought about exploring getting your wife's mother help? If you can, record her dangerous behavior and use it as documentation
Cassiopeia1023
If she lashes out verbally or physically, file abuse claims and have the proof ready
Shadowmantress
I think PA is a two party consent state. :/ So any recordings taken without her consent can't be used in court. CA's the same way.
NVGoddesscottage
If it’s warm enough for the kids, buy a big ole tent and live in a camp ground. It’s earthy, lots of energizing ions from the trees to heal
OneLetter
Idk where you’re located, but honestly packing up and moving to somewhere with a low cost of living might be the best solution 1/2
OneLetter
2/3 low income states (Like KY) you can buy houses for less than $80K in decent condition. Almost anyone can get approved and with cost of
OneLetter
3/3 living being so low you can work basically anywhere to keep food on the table.
NightfallEverdark
Evil suggestion: seek a conservatoreship over Ellen, make her prove she is not crazy (harder than it sounds), take her house.
GoldenStandardGarbage
Dude, goddamn- to the FP with you so we can find some more resources
MegatronPewPew
I’d appreciate it coz I’ve done all the sleuthing I can and I can’t find a way out of this hell
browncoatsunite
In some states dialing 2-1-1 will connect you with state resources. I hope things get better for you and your family.
MegatronPewPew
I’ll take a look
DurendaI
I'm sure 'Ellen' has meds. It'd be a shame if they unexpectedly disagreed with her heart still beating, as she'd be mourned by many. /s
DurendaI
(but fr, I hope imgur has some kinda social worker angel roaming 'round here)
The72ndRaven
The SP is the one who needs to be involuntarily admitted. She is projecting all sorts of narcissistic shit on your wife. 1/2
The72ndRaven
I also truly feel that the SP needs to be excised from your lives. For better or worse. She is holding y'all back.
CrispyTatorTot
Long term stay motel would be better than staying with mentqlly unstable Ellen. Ugh.
MadeThisAccountToAnswerQuestions
Hey OP, sometimes we just need to scream into the void to feel better. Imgur ain't a bad place to do that either. I hope things get better.
MegatronPewPew
Thank you
PocketCleric
The void doesnt scream bacj, but sometimes we upvote you
GoldenStandardGarbage
Or upvote the vote out of everything for traction
GoldenStandardGarbage
Went with vote instead of hell but I like it either way
daromander
Lock SP up. Call the cops on her when she does something crazy. That way she will be the one in the hospital & might get the help she needs
ExquisiteConundrum
And get evidence so she doesn't try to play the victim again. Have a welfare check called in. Especially with small children in the house.
MegatronPewPew
I’m looking into trying to 302 her
422000
Have the kids be somewhere safe, then intentionally egg SP on and call the cops/psych services. She needs to be evaluated and medicated.
minipancho94
you need to my dude. shes a clear and present danger to others if not herself. she tried to set her fucking house on fire ffs.
Shadowmantress
Hey man, please try to give us update, if it's okay. We're rooting for ya here, and we want to make sure you're okay. DID with 1/
Shadowmantress
a destructive alter is hell for a lot of people. Dunno if that's her official diagnosis, just assuming. Regardless, top priority is 2/
Shadowmantress
removing a toxic person from the household. I'm glad your wife is doing better; just try to make sure the place she comes back to is safe.
bobalooba28
Stay strong for your kids, it’ll get better. You have to be their roll model so they grow up strong. Praying for you
MegatronPewPew
I am their hero I reckon
GoldenStandardGarbage
You fuckin bet.
GrimblGrombl
Try finding an apartment from a private owner, rather than a managed apartment complex. They're going to be more willing to work with you.
MegatronPewPew
Been trying, same song and dance so far with the private renters
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
211. The United Way. They are super knowledgeable about area resources and programs and can help connect you. Good luck!
MegatronPewPew
I’ll take a look ty
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
Hospitals often have social workers too. That’s a good resource!
JohnDanks
You're not broken. Not yet... Just passed 1 year after my wife's suicide. Never saw it coming. Do what ever you can to prevent the worst...
JohnDanks
If that dark day does come to pass, you know you did everything in your power to save her. Ignorance is the worst type of guilt. @op
MegatronPewPew
I didn’t have someone commit suicide on me but I was driving my car 8 years ago two days before my birthday and a drunk hit us, killing my
MegatronPewPew
Good friend directly behind where I sat. I watched him bleed out. The drunk wasn’t even phased that he killed someone. I understand what you
MegatronPewPew
May have went through just not to the same degree and I empathize my friend
LakrisalLover
Would ut be possible to move to a state with better unemplyment benefits, healthcare and affordable housing?
muranolamp
Yes, like Nordic countries, for a start? In here *no one* with small children will be left without their own flat, no matter what.
apatchworkquilt
Bro, keep looking. I got an extremely cheap (if shitty) apartment for one week of work for rent after months of being homeless and hopeless
apatchworkquilt
Granted I've always been too poor to even have bad credit, but I just kept asking around and got hooked up since I appeared reliable
apatchworkquilt
Don't have kids, so kinda hard to try to suggest solutions, but I'm sure there's an out. Don't give up.
MegatronPewPew
I can’t give up, no choice for their sake, ty for the encouragement
IamtheJubster
Check out FMLA for her job. Might just save it.
LifeIsHardAsOneThirdOfASmore
This!! @op
MegatronPewPew
I’ll take a look. Ty
Lostdeway
Look into homeless shelters or shelters for abuse victims. It might be better than the current situation
SquirrelWithATophat
In the US shelters for abuse victims typically only accept women and children (as long as the child isn't a male above a certain age).
MegatronPewPew
Yea
MegatronPewPew
I don’t want to lose my kids and if I did that I would (in PA here anyway). If I lost my kids I would lose the only reason I still breathe.
Gonz000
@OP stay strong
MegatronPewPew
Ty
AlwaysFokenSavage
Ellen would have accidentally died falling down the stairs if she lived at my house. Im almost certain of it.
nclu
I went through hell when my ex's abuse put our kid through a series of hospitalizations. I don't have any solutions, but feel free to DM me
MegatronPewPew
Ty
Naeve9
The abuse victims shelter in my town let's you keep your kids with you. Can't hurt to call 211 and see what's around
indigoaura74
You as a parent/husband need to be the rock for your family and make difficult decisions that would benefit your wife and kids the most.
indigoaura74
Ask yourself “Who or what is the main problem and what can I do about it?”
MegatronPewPew
Already know the main issue, just lost on how to deal with it. A lot of comments have me doing research right now
Ouul
Homeless and abuse shelters often have counselors for just the kind of situation your family is in and can work with you on emergency 1/2
Ouul
housing or accommodation. Check the ones in your local area to see what counseling options they have available.
HighNight
In PA, you do have access to a free attorney in domestic disputes- reach out to your courthouse/women's shelter for resources.
MrJimmyRustles
Any other family or friends that y'all could crash with until you get back on your feet?
MegatronPewPew
Unfortunately nope. If we didn’t have kids we’d have places we could go, can’t coz of them (too loud, not safe enough, have their own kids
MegatronPewPew
Etc)
EkitaiHebi
Man id offer you the 3 spare rooms i have if i werent a ocean away... best of luck m8 y'all will pull through
wtforero
Try community hope, they helped my brother and I when he suddenly lost his apartment. Paid the deposit and 2 months rent, made all the/1
MegatronPewPew
I’ll look into it tt
wtforero
Difference for us.
ISnoggedMadamedePompadour
Op look for rent by owner there are alot of owners put there that don't do credit/background checks especially near military bases
bonnyparker
Losing your job because of sick days? Jesus, aren't usa citizens elegible to go to canada as fugitives by now?
NotCthulhu
Has the travel ban between the US and all non-pandemic-ravaged countries been lifted yet?
ExquisiteConundrum
Immigrants. Not fugitives lol. But its fucking hard unless you have family there.
Appollon
I think he means refugees.
bonnyparker
Thank you that's it
bonnyparker
Is it only "fugitives" if you run from the authorities?
ExquisiteConundrum
Thats the word!
LifeIsHardAsOneThirdOfASmore
My boss came to my hospital room on the cardiac floor, after a heart attack, took my laptop, phone, and fired me for missing work.
Appollon
I think that's illegal.
LifeIsHardAsOneThirdOfASmore
Unfortunately it’s not.