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Join the coalition to protect Net Neutrality. Doesn't matter what your views are, we all lose if current protections are scrapped. Wake up and understand there will be no America to hack when 10 mbps cost $2199.99 a month
How will we know if theres moon colonies of slave children when my wifi is always down to "maintenance"? How willI we know what kind of porn Ted Cruz likes on twitter?
November 22nd is the next date when Congress will vote on a bill that can destroy or save free speech forever
Contact your representatives and let them know you stand with Net Neutrality
https://www.battleforthenet.com/#join
I dare you to share, post or link this movement to one other person each day. FCC and Congress wants us to forget but we still have the power to choose. Say something everyday.
This is the most blatant example of Regulatory Capture where a company buys into an agency and outnumber or out rank other employees. But the great thing about democracy is that public officials dont hold life terms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
Check who your local rep is and see if they stand with American consumers or Chairman Pai.
They can throttle your porn, censor your business, override our constitution but we're still customers with a vote. How much is freedom worth to you?
#teaminternet #freedom #america
jolietjane
You could've voted for the candidate who was pro-net neutrality,
Bystandr
Those who want to use nazi style authoritarianism in the name of regulation or security. Repulsive.
UltraBooster
So is this just something we will havevto fight 6 times a year until we are dead??
GreenRaspberriesLouLouBear
Anti trust law are the better solution to hold ISP's accountable.
Hrafna55
So glad I don't have to suffer US ISPs.
AmericanDreaming
Theyll starting buying yours when they finish ours. They already try to buy it from your gov
Geckuro
DOWN WITH THIS KINDA THING!!! >:[
MyBigMouth
Bad news for Americans, great news for the one who has to re-write the National Anthem without using the word "free".
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
And the pledge.
vurcease
I'm so over this shit. It never ends.
MaxMinutiae
The worst part is the internet is so integral to daily life these days, we can’t even boycott them.
EminentLine
I tried to call. Got hung up on. Net neutrality is never gonna happen. Get ready to live without using the internet for a long time.
AmericanDreaming
At least tweet and share what wonderful rep of yours hung up so we can know
SendMePicturesOfYourDog
Right! You can't represent if you don't listen to the people
digitalist1
I hope that if they actually manage to kill net nutrality will reverse the decision in a year after they figure out not having it stifles 1/
digitalist1
Buisnesses 2/2
missaroo
The problem is people in congress no longer listen to the peoples opinion. They listen to the companies paying them.
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
"no longer"?? when did they ever listen??
UnassumingAscotCap
I've contacted my reps over and over. They don't care, they're paid out already, and they keep coming back because people are stupid
AmericanDreaming
Well just be sure to keep them in mind when you look at your bills. Tell your friends and fam!
MrStrawberry209
Meennn, the US is so fucking fucked
Lamech777
HARDWIRED TO SELF DE-STRUCT! *DRUMS*
AmericanDreaming
Oh you're gonna feel it too trust me
TCGView
I wrote both reps here in Texas. They politely told me to go fuck myself because they love money.
hurrytheshitup
Really?
TCGView
Yes, really. The sent these overly long letters that pretty much said they were all for revoking net neutrality. So fucking stupid.
DrShrinker
Even with NN the shared monopoly is the status quo. It goes much deeper than NN.
Tunisia
Yes, but some of the harmful effects of the monopoly are mitigated.
fozzibab
Congress is in their pocket. They don't give a fuck what you want. How could you possibly think otherwise?
AmericanDreaming
Why do they keep pushing it back then? Why during the holidays and under the radar?
fozzibab
They want it to pass on the first go. They push it back because they haven't bribed enough senators to make it a sure thing yet. That's all.
Choopsha
So do they not realize if they do this it may very well crash alot of companies who do business online i.e. amazon/steam....
erischilde
They do, it's good for them. A council of 4 or 5 companies owning everything is perfect for them... No challenges.
merelyadequategooglymoogly
It's not the well-funded companies that are going to be fucked. It's the new, little guys. The innovators.
SocialMediaMakesUsLessSocial
That's pretty much what American capitalism has come to: gilded oligarchies and protectionist policies for them.
FrigginCornflakes
Amazon? Steam? Those are the behemoths, they're all set. It's small business that earn less than $2,000,000 gross revenue that will suffer
ParagonFurytheTactician
No, companies like Amazon and Steam currently thrive because ISPs have to give them fair pricing regardless of size or usage. ISPs want NN -
ParagonFurytheTactician
gone precisely so they can assrape companies like Amazon, Netflix, Steam, Microsoft etc. for more money or shut them down if they don't pay.
lysani
They want more money because those companies account for most internet traffic, which puts a strain on networks and slows everything down.
rabidCOVIDphysician
You seriously have to call.
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
what with all the good it'll do. the same people you're asking to call are the same ones who allowed trump to win by inaction.
tarataqa
I seriously called.
nanoman273
And what happened?
tarataqa
They asked me for my creditcard number and how much of a "campaign contribution" I wanted to make.
nanoman273
Haha that's great
Terminology
Just follow the example of the EU already.
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
??
Terminology
Net neutrality is a law in the EU.
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
Apples and oranges. https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/15/on-the-eus-net-neutrality-law/
Terminology
Poor article by a known anti-EU British minister. It doesn't even mention the actual law, just random and largely unfounded criticism.
AmericanDreaming
We're trying! Its hard and takes time. How about a little help friend?
Terminology
I'll send an email to some congressman. I'm already living in the EU.
AggressiveNightLight
Brexit?
Terminology
Pure idiocy.
SickOfThisCessPool
Congress doesn't give two shits what we want. They only care about how much they get from the ISP lobbyists
AmericanDreaming
They want their job again
tarataqa
I am only 1 vote.
AmericanDreaming
Infinitely more than 0. Everyone counts!
tarataqa
Except for the Electoral College when my vote against Trump was worthless.
Unspookable
Can't another company come by and charge less? Making competition and dropping prices? I think most companies would like to have a set speed
AmericanDreaming
Ideally but thats pretty impossible now. Imagine after the bill is passed
Unspookable
it always seems a bit to black and white when being Portrayed on social media.
lysani
Those companies basically own the cables and infrastructure that internet traffic goes through.
DanFendi
Comcast and their ilk literally kill them. I can't explain it in 140 characters, but the big 4 can kill anything smaller than them.
Burp69
This is why we need Google to expand its Google fiber internet.
lysani
Yeah, no. Google has been selling our info since day one. What makes you think giving them full control of everything would end well?
DrSparken
Google push hard for encryption, so they CAN'T see anything that you don't actively give them, and are consistently in favour of NN. Being1/
DrSparken
on Google Fibre won't give them any more info than they already have by you using their online services. 2/2
TheHeartofShrimplyPibbles
AtheistNotAntiTheist
TheSpectrumGuy
Stay strong little buddy
smallskillerofhambino
I'm a former Verizon AND Time Warner Cable employee. 30? Them's rookie numbers.
Zomboozles
Omg, I feel you. And I feel horrible about it. I have fought with so many supervisors to try and un-fuck someone...
smallskillerofhambino
I will give Verizon credit. Our supervisors could at least authorize a more gentle fucking. TWC not so much.
NatsukiIsMyWaifu
He's gotta pump up those numbers!
DenaliRaven
Way up!
AmericanDreaming
We're you the expert rep at the end?
smallskillerofhambino
Funny thing is that I traded tech support in to come work for a large health insurance company. I'm still fucking people!
smallskillerofhambino
Business Class Tier 3 at TWC. Internal Support Rep at Verizon.
BlueLanternBraxx
Fuck's sake, America. Leave the internet alone.
AmericanDreaming
What did you think we were saying this whole time? Its the companies!
BlueLanternBraxx
Your whole goddamn country is a company.
OlanDyurai
Fucks sake, Corporations*
BlueLanternBraxx
Your whole fucking country is a corporation.
AmericanDreaming
Corporations there. Now go hurry.
NoCreativity3
So are we just going to keep fighting this every month it comes up? They're just going to keep writing this up. Fucking bullshit. The 1)
nanyatenyaa
We could just tar and feather the head of the fcc. It would stop his bullshit and show others we had enough of this bullshit.
FamousestAnus
In all seriousness, we do need to do this, and with more than just the head of the FCC. The time for revolution is upon us. Timmay exclamati
FamousestAnus
Fucking God damn piece of shit voice text. Timmay!!!!!!!
NoCreativity3
Really wish this would happen.
NoCreativity3
Whole world will suffer if this shit gets passed.
FamousestAnus
Precisely this... They're going to keep bringing it up and pushing it through until we do forget... Then what? Who will reverse it? Fixable?
tarataqa
@OP I called my congressman. He told me to send him more money than those corporations sent him and he'll reconsider. So help me out please!
Redshadow09
I sincerely hope you are joking
mgiac
What a piece of shit congressman, lower than any form of cancer
AmericanDreaming
I have $2.47! Verizon took everything I had
TheGreyKnightsBANNED
THOSE BASTARDS!! THEY ARE STEALING OUR MONEY TO PAY CONGRESS OFF!!
sweetcarnage86
So, you are joking, right? Others seems to be unsure...
shinagami091
Guys, he’s joking. A politician wouldn’t be that stupid to say that.
TheManInTheWall
Are you being serious?
tarataqa
Are you a real Jamaican carrot?
TheManInTheWall
Nah. Im an English carrot but if i put English carrot it makes me sound nationalistic
tarataqa
So deceitful is better? lol-jk
TheManInTheWall
Lol. I guess not. Honestly the real reason was that it was a very unique name for steam
HypnoChanger
damn, you should have been recording. if you had that on tape he could lose his job for saying that.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
I may hate the politicians who vote for it, but they're evil not dumb.
HypnoChanger
Yeah, that's why you'd need a recording. that's basically admitting to blatant corruption, which would get them fired and maybe arrested. 1/
HypnoChanger
Without a recording, nobody would believe the politician would be that dumb.
ScaryScarab
You can't record people without telling them, and there's no way in hell he would have said that if he was being recorded.
Draquez1
Pressure your state to pass laws against it. If it becomes illegal in states federal wont be able to do shit.
StandardDeviant
Wrong, Internet is the definition of interstate commerce. That's all the federal government's responsibility.
SuspiciousCactus
That's not how federal law works. At. All. Lmao
AmericanDreaming
Thats probably the best idea who would it go towards?
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Your local state representative for your district and the governor.
utgort
City law < county law < state law < federal law < constitution so yes they can pass a law overriding state laws.
nanyatenyaa
The constitution says that states have the right to pass laws... and the fcc writes regulations, not laws.....
nanyatenyaa
You've oversimplified this a bit...
utgort
No I was responding to the original post that if a state passed a law the feds couldn't do anything. That outlook is very naive.
nanyatenyaa
....the fcc isn't a legislative body though.
CamelbackJack
When $1 or more is involved, the Commerce Clause always triumphs.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Like they couldn't do shit about slavery?
dragoonwraith
They only could because of Amendment XIV, and that only passed because the South was in rebellion at the time and didn't get to vote on it.
Draquez1
Equating slavery to internet usage is a bit of a stretch. What's next. Going to equate pokemon to the Armenian genocide?
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
We have the precedence that the government can override state-delegated powers, both in abolishing slavery and legalizing gay marriage.
utgort
He pointed out (correctly) that many states had legal slavery. The feds are the ones that stopped it.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
In fact, based on the latter precedence, we just need the Supreme Court to do so. That's why I'm against both decisions. Not because of the
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
policies themselves, but because by overstepping the constitutional limits, they created a precedence that the federal government does what
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
it wants.
lobbo86
You cunts are fucked.
TheDreadLordSithis
Yup
itstara333
Thanks.
emparier
So are you mate
AgolfHiller
How?
LexiaStark
If this goes through in the US, the rest of world may well follow. Companies want your money!
ParagonFurytheTactician
Without the US, most of the world's best Internet structure/support is basically gone. Companies would have to pay hundreds of millions -
FamousestAnus
Lol he thinks were important...its common over here. A lot of them also think the us is the most Advanced country also, and thats just funny
ParagonFurytheTactician
potentially billions, to move to countries with worse infrastructure, rules and support. Imagine how shit navigation would be if you had -
ParagonFurytheTactician
individually pay thousands of dollars per year for access to things like GPS and radio instead of it being regulated and free/low cost?
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
mmm, no. there are plenty of servers outside of the us already.
tarataqa
America is the majority of the Internet, you moron.
ShadyVenator
Just because we host the majority doesn't mean people in other countries can't connect to every part of it that we can...
tarataqa
But we host the majority and it will affect everyone else as well as us.
ILikeCharmanderOk
Typical American who thinks America is the whole world. The internet would do just fine without you thanks.
tarataqa
Enjoy not having Imgur then.
ILikeCharmanderOk
I'm sure I'll survive lol
tarataqa
But you're still here lol.
GenjiShimadaOfTheShimadaClan
We are not the majority but you can't deny the influence this decision would have when other contries come to something like net neutrality.
ILikeCharmanderOk
Of course. It's an important decision, both in and outside of the US, agreed. I was just responding to tarataga's egocentrist perspective.
tarataqa
I said majority. You can check my numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Websites_by_country
noobwarlock
Without Al Gore there would be no internet... Duh.
ZAPZAPMOTHAFUCKA
Because India and China don't have it? What fucking world do you live in?
tarataqa
You do the math: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Websites_by_country
tarataqa
I live in America, motherfucker!
ZAPZAPMOTHAFUCKA
And I live in Texas. That doesn't magically make it the center of the universe.
tarataqa
I meant we host the majority of websites and it will affect everyone else as well as us. The world needs full speed access to American sites