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Fanta Orange in the US vs. the UK.
UK Fanta gets its color from carrots, pumpkins, and orange fruit, while the US version gets it from dyes (red 40 and yellow 6).
Also about 3 times as much sugar in the US version versus the UK version, and the US Fanta has high fructose corn syrup while the UK version has sugar.
Also there's no orange juice in American Fanta.
TohmaytohTohmahtoh
Have had both. Prefer the UK version, wondering why the US has to go to such extremes. Then I remembered capitalism and cheap ingredients make for higher profits...
darkstarmc
That UK bottle though. Thought it was squeezed at the bottom and deformed by the user.
Svartsinn
I really took to liking Fanta when I traveled to europe as a kid and every time I've tried Fanta since it tasted like utter garbage. Could this be why?
HavetsHerren
We also have Fanta Lemon in Europe, though it's hard to find. But even better, ever heard of Orangina? (Wikipedia says yes but apparently it is also extra sweetened...)
criggie
What about Lucozade ?
Randomice
The US version is a fantasy.
HawkmanXLII
No, it's real life
qtRaven
Icanhearwhatyouresayingandtheanswerisno
Had to come back and look for this to upvote.
jfitz
It's lasted pretty well for a product invented because the Nazis weren't allowed to have Coke.
stevencloser
And now it belongs to coke. The circle of life.
jfitz
It kind of always did, it was invented by German Coke staff because importers were hit by sanctions.
Solkanarmy
african fanta is the absolute best fanta
Hammerwell
I concur. The type sold in Mauritius is really tasty.
MadamPuddifoot
ISRAEL IS A TERRORIST STATE. THEY ARE LITERALLY SHOOTING CHILDREN WITH SNIPER FIRE. TWICE. THE SAME CHILDREN ARE GETTING SHOT THROUGH THE FUCKING HEAD AND THROUGH THE FUCKING HEART.
Idsertian
Wtf, America? I thought the "Nuclear fucking Orange" jokes were just that...
cosonfused
100% natural flavor.
GnikNella
It’s because the US use color in theirs and we in the UK use colour in ours.
keillrandor
Typical behaviour, making it all about 'u' :P
GnikNella
iamthecomet
Scrolled back from four posts up just to tell you, I like you.
GnikNella
RenaissanceFaireMan
So there's no sugar in the US version...just nice healthy corn! /s
JamJarre
Does it have 3x the sugar, or do UK labels list nutrition per 100ml rather than per bottle?
m0problems
Because the UK enacted some laws about added sugar, basically every company switched to using artificial sweeteners instead. Theoretically better than sugar, but it made everything taste worse.
NicolasKevinMac
In this case, it is actually 3x the sugar. But that's a great call out for anyone who drinks imported canned beverages: sugar (and fat/etc) are often given as per 100mL rather than per can, so you have to multiply to find the full amount in the can. So next time you're enjoying that weirdly delicious Korean drink that's sweet but surprisingly low sugar... be suspicious. (This may or may not be based on personal experience...)
Hammerwell
The charm is that you can compare different products directly this way. Because anything per 100 is the percentage. 15g per 100g translates to 15% sugar.
ChloeRed
If you work it out for a 330ml can, UK fanta is just under 15g, US is 41g. So it's not _quite_ 3x, but it's getting on for it
JamJarre
That's actually insane
ChloeRed
To give a comparison - UK CocaCola, the full on original, sugar only, is just under 36g per 330ml can.
RayneOfSalt
Aussie Fanta is a combination of the USA's drink (with cane sugar instead of corn syrup) in the UK's bottle.
sketch242
Hong Kong Fanta looks just like the US's but it contains real OJ (no other fruits) and is made with real sugar. By comparison the US version tastes like they removed the tangy orange flavor and replaced it with sweetener. It's kind of gross in comparison.
AdrianDunne
The UK version has changed. They have to pay a sugar tax so in order to come in under the limit they've replaced some of the sugar with artificial sweeteners. This may actually be worse for people in the long run.
WoopDeFrickenDoo
that's interesting, I've kept seeing studies come out bashing artificial sweeteners for one reason or other and if I have to have something sweet I'll splurge on the sugar version.
dreikommavierzehn
problem about the artificial sweeteners studies is that many of them were faked in the past. Both pro and against, it's a mess.
Last thing I read was the WHO quoting a study that they neither affected health much, nor did they help with weight loss and that it's recommended to eat sugar from fruits instead
MadHat
Hmm, I think I'll order some of that
bnuihj
AgentCatherine
Red 40 f’s me up. Killer migraine.
Raileks
OliverOtter
UK Fanta sounds more like Orangina. Which we do have in the US, and it's good, but it's not Fanta.
sketch242
Correct. It's not Fanta, it's much better.
AdrianDunne
We have Orangina too. UK/Ireland Orangina tastes very different to Fanta.
Horsebatteries
Fanta is also different across Europe. Sometimes corner stores import their drinks from other countries, presumably for tax reasons, and it's kind of fun to see a bottle of Fanta that's a totally different shade of yellow. I've yet to spot anything as outrageously orange as this US shit though.
Suomijuusto89
Even Chinese Fanta tastes better and doesn't look as strange as American, we sometimes had Chinese Fanta on sale in the foreign drinks shelf when the American had run out
Quixus
The labels say it all "100% natural flavors" vs. "Made with orange juice".
Do note that natural flavor only means it is extracted from plants or animals instead of synthesized directly. The used product does not have to have anything to do with the mimicked flavor. e.g. strawberry flavor is made from fungi.
Tarkeel
As a pharmacist friend likes to point out, arsenic is also 100% natural.
Quixus
And so is ricin, to name an organic toxin. But yeah being natural does not make something inherently better.
Hammerwell
[Clostridium Botulinum enters the chat]
MisterLemons
Consumerism, baby!
Buzzwords taste better than legitimate understanding because who wants to learn that the actual criteria for "organic" is met by the vast majority of fresh and frozen edible products but nobody wants to pay to have that label slapped on their product?
Tune in next week for our skit on how the education system is holding up!
Quixus
Yeah I totally forgot that in the food industry organic is used as a quality descriptor, in German they use Bio for that.
I meant it to distinguish ricin from arsenic which is inorganic.
Oblok
I loved Fanta as a kid, but I hate that UK bottle. It screams "Let's see how much less product we can deliver by changing the bottle shape."
Sulexar
You'd think with all the shrinkflation whines usually spammed to this site more people would be calling that out.
ChloeRed
And yet the bottle size hasn't changed from 500ml, despite the change in shape.
bwittekoekover9000
i miss Orangina
phuzz00
It's still made, if you can't find it in your local shops, you can probably buy it online. (I remember being given bottles of Orangina getting off the ferry to France)
coothlesscthulhu
Anytime I fly to Ireland, first stop after the bathroom is to grab a Club Orange and/or a Fanta. Also gotta grab a bottle of Blackcurrant MiWadi for the hotel.
AdrianDunne
We have a sugar tax now (like the UK). The drinks manufacturers have started to replace some of the sugar with artificial sweeteners to get around the tax. Some of the drinks don't taste good anymore. Club is still nicer than Fanta though. Coke is one of the few drinks that hasn't changed.
MayMayz4DayzYo
Next time grab yourself some Apple Berry MiWadi. Thank me later.
coothlesscthulhu
I'll definitely give it a shot! We spent the month of May over there which used up pretty much all of our vacation time from work. Usually we only stay for a couple of weeks depending on what the family has going on, that way we can try to be there twice a year. So probably won't get to try it until early next year.
Ekibwurm
europe system: prove this item is not dangerous and you can use it. usa system: prove it's harmful and we'll stop using it.
gerf
That's a general difference in mindset. US is more "you can do that unless it's illegal" and Europe is "you can do what you're permitted to do".
Ekibwurm
more like "you can do as you wish, just prove it's not harmful first" plenty of new recipes and innovations come from europe, the mindset was: dont go mad scientist about it.
gerf
So again the onus is on the individual to show that something is permissible, rather than the government having the onus to show something is impermissible. No?
Filanwizard
also USA system, prove that changing it wont be harmful to the share price.
downrightmike
Yup and our conservative Nazis passed a law undoing the protections against having rotten cherries in frozen deserts. So fake cherry all the way please
bassaro
USB system: try flipping it over.
Ekibwurm
try again. again. no again. still no luck... again i said!
Kotarisu
usa system: prove it's harmful and we'll [have industry fund a research study to see if the alleged harm outweighs the marginal costs of changing to something else].
Ekibwurm
if you look up on how the FDA was started in the usa.... its madness... they used to put embaulming fuilds into food! espetialy milks or eggs (cant recall exactly which had it.. likely milk) and people where like... 'hey, only half the kids are making it to teen ages, guess life is real hard, we better make some more.' entire thing is fucked up. food corps where openly boasting how the usa would let them do anything, and complained they couldnt export their poison to europe back then. they even/
Ekibwurm
/started the whole 'bacterias are bad' thing if memory serves. it was payback to stop european food import to the usa... and to force the market monopoly for themselves.
Hammerwell
Same as the chicken tax later. Which started the transition to huge trucks as personal vehicles.
Hammerwell
There are a lot of cartoons of the time showing what was going on. Example:
Ekibwurm
french german tv (arte) did a documentary on this named "the club of voluntaree poisonees". the guy who started the fda had to prove stuff was bad so he had to literaly poison healthy people to prove it... with a strict protocol so they couldnt say it was something else. and despite that they still tried to bury the reports... for years. it was a fight that lasted decades.
MadamPuddifoot
ISRAEL IS A TERRORIST STATE. THEY ARE LITERALLY SHOOTING CHILDREN WITH SNIPER FIRE. TWICE. THE SAME CHILDREN ARE GETTING SHOT THROUGH THE FUCKING HEAD AND THROUGH THE FUCKING HEART.
CrisprCAS
Yeah, but the US version is actually orange, so there!
Blimjoe
GreatElkOfTheNorth
Well, if you look at the color of actual, real, orange juice…
AlexSomething
Which orange though? Orange juice is on the yellow side (as are actual oranges on the outside). You'd be hard pressed to find regular oranges (ie not blood oranges) giving such a reddish hue.
Poppypoppoppop
"100% NATURAL FLAVOR"
TiredSnowball
I find the european version tastes better; we have it in some european food stores locally. (I'm in Canada, so the common version is the same as in US.)
Mavgurian
Incoming hyperbole: Fanta is German Nazi Coke Ersatz, so makes sense that the original tastes better.
Frostycopper
When we traveled to England, my wife preferred the version on the right more too.
ChloeRed
Why my US SO came to the UK her view on Fanta "This tastes like it's been near oranges"
Suomijuusto89
sounds like finnish prepared fishsoup, Let's put the cooking pot next to the aquarium and hope that the fish swims nearby
madjo
Finally a meal even I can prepare, now all I need is an aquarium...
RubyPorto
Having had both, the American Fanta tastes better. There's nothing healthy about drinking liquid candy regardless of whether it's colored by purified carotenoids or an artificial dye.
flicman
But it's not trendy to point out failings of other countries' industries.
zutty
The UK version is "only kill half the orphans"
Gryphonosiris
I disagree, I think the European one tastes better. I say that as an American.
thisistheusernamethatneverendss
Artificial dye is definitely worse. Produced from crude oil and anything but safe. Food should be from food.
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
It doesn't matter if it's produced from crude oil. The elements that are in oil aren't inherently dangerous.
As an example, if I were to extract pure hydrogen from oil and then use that hydrogen to make water, that water wouldn't be dangerous just because the hydrogen came from oil.
I'm not saying the compounds aren't dangerous, just that them being made from crude oil isn't why they're dangerous.
AncientProverb
These people gonna boycott food when they find out some byproducts of crude oil processing can go on to facilitate creation of compounds used to fertilise/enrich the soil we grow food in.
Ecne
Red 40, Yellow 5 and Yellow 6 may contain contaminants that are known cancer-causing substances - thats why they illegal in EU
krisiteenie56
You should look up the make up of a strawberry and have your mind blown.
TheShoggothOfMosquitoCreek
Can't die of cancer if you die with diabetes, strokes, and heart attacks first.
Suomijuusto89
Like real americans?
MrFancyPanzer
One time i tried US cherry coke ve Swedish cherry coke. SW coke: Hmm, Its like Coke with a nice hint of cherry. US coke: why does it taste like fuel station bathroom cleaner?
Etherealvalentine
Same with cinnamon
bound4doom
I do not know exactly when our coke changes to be like this but I am old enough to remember going to the local drug store which still had a soda fountain and they made Cherry Coke by adding the Cherry flavoring to Coke made with real sugar. These were delicious. Nothing like the crap today in the US.
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Dude, the difference in Belgian Coke Vs Belgian Burger King Coke is huge... Belgian Coke is good while the BK Coke is the same but with 15 sugar cubes dissolved in it. Is everything American sweet af?
EpilatorAlligatorBothReduceGrowth
That means BK is doing something wrong with the ratios. Give them feedback. BK has a contract with Coke and it’s in Cokes best interest to send down a technician to work the tower and instruct them correctly. It’s also in BKs favour to get it right as more syrup use cost more money.
Copperbrat
Yeah I don't understand why american "cherry" flavoring is so awful. It's like someone dipped a cherry air freshener hanger in cough syrup.
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
In my experience, the flavor in “real” fruits in the US are a pittance compared to those that are (for me) from abroad. My favorite thing to eat in Europe and pretty much anywhere else is tomatoes. I’m always shocked by how much better they taste.
downrightmike
Because that has been engrained in us for generations. Our beer is piss because of wartime rationing to beat the Nazis. So our disgusting flavors are a result of winning the war
HsuDoNihm
How... do you know what fuel station bathroom cleaner tastes like?
AyatollahBahloni
You can smell those urinal cakes, and that's almost the same as tasting it.
HsuDoNihm
Oh man, now I wanna do a study... "Does it taste like it smells?" It'd be a hard sell, but Science!
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Coffee: no
3wattbulb
The secret ingredient is gas station bathroom cleaner
3wattbulb
And dubious definitions of what constitutes a crime
wheeeeeeeeeeee
Sinael
"sharp tennis ball"?
aguacatedeldiablo
Think "smell", not "touch".
Nuggettt
Where the ashtray one? Picked up a few that tastes likt they’d been used as an ashtray lmao
wheeeeeeeeeeee
Floral has you covered
Nuggettt
Ah i see it now, thank you!
hippocampus
I don't understand why Tin foil is closer to burnt than motherboard. Motherboard taste is the perfect amalgamation of burnt dust and metal.
DorkJedi
My grandfather worked for a diner and gas station coffee company (Cain's Coffee- now bought and corporatized by Nestle). Spent a lot of time explaining how to maintain the machines cleanliness and temperatures for good coffee- which the machines are capable of producing. That advice was ignored, and then they complain the coffee went to shit a week later. On the up side, he spent a lot of paid time on the road re-doing coffee machines. I still have a 40 year old Bunn that makes superb coffee.
wheeeeeeeeeeee
I have installed $30k-$40k espresso machines in hotels and watched them last less than 3 years due to what they do to them. Shoot, I watched a new $15k one last less than a year due to poor water (no, the water system is too expensive. We will have our guy do it...) I know the places I will go for what drinks I want. I also know a bunch of restaurants I will not eat at, but that's a different story, lol.
KawaiiTwat
I wish I could even find cherry coke in sweden. If you dont live near a big city it's really tough.
T1GWBJAH
Even in a big city it can be challenging. Never mind that Coca-Cola sweden obviously hates anyone buying the non-zero colas. I don't understand their reasoning for releasing vanilla coke and cherry coke in only 33cl cans. And usually not even proper 20 packs.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
They removed vanilla coke from the Canadian market. :( They still have cherry but I want vanilla!
Choe8
Huh I find both in my local Ica in 50cl bottles
T1GWBJAH
50cl that is regular vanilla coke and not zero?
Choe8
Ah maby I missread, might be vanilla zero havent bought or looked that closely don't really like either vanilla or cherry.
SophieClockwise
Pretty much "cherry" *anything* from the U.S. has a weird, overbearing, decidedly *non*-cherry caustic chemical flavour.
anteyeclimbaxe
Bacardi Torched Cherry Rum was fantastic when they still sold it, everything else seems to have that caustic cherry flavor instead.
DarkDuskBlade
It sucks when you grow up with that flavor and then taste real cherries. It fucks with your head; strawberries, too. Everything 'strawberry' flavored is just sugary with a hint of weird sweetness that isn't quite sugar. A real strawberry? I can not taste any sweetness in them b/c of that, I think.
HonestCommentFarmer
Cheerwine if you live in the South is a fantastic soda that doesn't taste like cherry medicine.
10thlettersauce
Its very good, wish i could get it up here
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
There's a really nice black cherry soda that I get when I see it, but I can't recall the the brand name at the moment.
bamcobra
Possibly Stewart’s
ialoneambest
Dr. Brown’s Black Cherry?
aguacatedeldiablo
I know IBC makes a black cherry soda.
Ludwigofthepotatoppl
It’s the only cherry flavor you’ll find in almost anything cherry over here. Cough syrup is the worst of all, because any cherry thing you try after that will remind you of medicine.
—an american who can’t stand said artificial cherry flavor
BranDohCalrissian
Syovere
I never had that issue with cherry but cough syrup ruined raspberry for me for decades
Init1alDee
same but grape. I can't stand grape flavoured anything, even to this day
Ludwigofthepotatoppl
What a coincidence, i hate artificial grape as well.
Uandi82muchBeer
Hammerwell
Brominated vegetable oil? It's been banned in europe since the 70s ffs.
MadamPuddifoot
ISRAEL IS A TERRORIST STATE. THEY ARE LITERALLY SHOOTING CHILDREN WITH SNIPER FIRE. TWICE. THE SAME CHILDREN ARE GETTING SHOT THROUGH THE FUCKING HEAD AND THROUGH THE FUCKING HEART. I'LL FUCKING YELL AT YOU ALL DAY ABOUT IT.
DdCno1
I wonder what on Earth it's supposed to achieve in a sugary soft-drink.
Hammerwell
It's a specialized emulsifier for citrus oils, who are lighter than water, to get them to the same density as water stopping the separation.
DdCno1
Thanks for dropping knowledge. I'm assuming there are better ways of doing this though.
slartibartfas
Ah, but are those better ways cheaper? Probably not.
FellaWithUmbrella
Red 40/E129 and Yellow 6/E110 are banned in several Euroopan countries, because they ”may have an adverse effect on activity and attention in children”.
AlmostHappy
Not banned on European level, but a warning necessary. Not sure about each individual country. https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/1778
michaeloberg
Always loved the "known to the state of California" style bullshit. You mean known to science? Known to people and just not illegal yet and so the psychopathic corporations will continue to poison people for profit?
stevencloser
The known to the state of California style bullshit is more like "okay, one study says vaccines cause autism, while 1000 say it doesn't. Better put a warning label on it."
alwaysthecheesegrater
It really means that the maker of this product doesn't care enough to test it for your safety.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Would you trust their results? Anyway it's not "testing" so much as multi-decade, multi-million dollar research, for each ingredient. And the last hard drive I bought came with a Prop 65 warning, in case I eat it.
alwaysthecheesegrater
No, the warning goes on everything that is known to have any of the "chemicals that are known to cause cancer". The idea was that the makers of these products will now test their things and be under certain limits to remove the warning. Instead, EVERYTHING has a label and no one cares (right now)
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
It means "someone suggested it might and it hasn't been disproven beyond all doubt and we can't spend the absurd amount of money it would take, so we have to stick a warning in every box".
Gaelwyn
The reason it says that is because it's required by California law for it to be labeled that way. Otherwise you'd get no label at all. That said, some of it is pretty bullshit. Like on some products containing vegetables it will be labeled because soil contains things that can be harmful.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
I bought a portable hard drive and it came with a Prop 65 warning in the box.
Gaelwyn
Maybe it gives off some fumes if it gets too hot? It's silly but at least you can be aware and look into it more if you want to know vs not having any idea something might be bad for your health.
SamaelQliphoth
Can't speak for Yellow 6, but wasn't the Red 40-hyperactivity link disproven (or put in serious doubt)? Unless I (very possibly) missed something >.>
ipFreak
My niece has a noticeable reaction when she has red 40. They avoid it as best they can.
Cindex1337
It can cause some people stomach trouble though. My wife doesn't do great with 40.
SamaelQliphoth
Fair enough. Even otherwise safe things are gonna not comport well with some people. I mean, some people are allergic to strawberries, so anything is game I suppose
AlmostHappy
Study showed a link but could not be replicated. Dyes are not banned, but to help parents avoid them anyway, there must be a warning on the label. I would worry much more about the corn syrup than the artificial coloring for my kids.
pandro
According to studies in the 90s, there was also no link between sugar intake and batshit-crazy hyperactivity. My ADHD son actually had no trouble with sugar - it was milk that sent him off the charts. (Doctors: "no, he's not allergic.")
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
> Doctors
*Imgur experts
ArchaeoEejit
My mates ma in the UK used to pick out the blue smarties before giving him the pack.
AwesomelyLonely
I remember that! Wasn't it a "scare" because the blue dye was the only one produced entirely artificially or something?
KainLamond
But what is entirely artificial, everything comes from something. Normally it just means it was spun around a lot...
pandro
in the USA in the 70s, "red dye number 2" was supposedly found to cause cancer, so red m&ms went away for years. srsly.