maximilianfragglebottom
76770
3781
50
Nov 20, 2020 9:11 PM
maximilianfragglebottom
76770
3781
50
FollowTheBlueFrog
Also um I said no. Not once not twice but now 3 times. No means no!
1CheekyMF
Fuck politeness. Stay sexy don't get murdered. Trust your gut, its uneasy for reason
Superchief86
"No, I don't take drinks from strangers because they're probably trying to drug and then rape me."
getridofTheSeaword
“No.” Is a complete sentence.
CMDRKrikos
In the wise words of Karen and Georgia. Fuck Politeness
BurnieCinders
It's not a gift, it's business, they think they're buying your time, because that's how they think it works.
Raeke
Fuck politeness. I’ve been roofied. You don’t owe anyone anything and you should always protect yourself over some rando’s feelings.
RetiredLaserMan
How many times do we have to tell Trump no before he accepts it?
Blimymyhat
Always carry a opossum in your purse so you say "I didn't want a drink so I'm giving it to Carl" And no, the creep cannot pet Carl.
AWildPandaAppears
A cat would slap that drink off the table and lick their butthole to assert dominance. Follow cat social norms.
enchanted49643
Almost happened to me. I refused alcoholic drink guy toffered to get me a soda went to the other side of bar to get it. I did not drink it.
rijstewafels
I guess this is a lesson for girls
Balarezok2
If a woman is being creepy and aggressive then it goes for guys too. But it’s a much more common problem for women
maximilianfragglebottom
or anyone who gets aggressively hit on
FistingBabyYoda
I was brought up in a cult and I believed that offering someone a drink was the right way to approach a woman. I didn't know any better.
ImJustHereToRepostPosts
And offering a drink is great! Just be respectful and let her order it herself if she wants it.
Callistan
Offering to buy a drink is a perfectly fine way to approach a woman. It's only a problem if she says no and you keep hassling her.
VinnieJonesDiary
As a man I can only think of one time when I was really on the receiving end of that, & it was fucking horrible, being pinned down by social
VinnieJonesDiary
Pressure to put up with treatment that was making me really uncomfortable. I felt dirty & like I'd done something wrong. I can only hope
VinnieJonesDiary
I've never done that to someone else.
amyvolume
1/3 Worked an event. Creepy guy joins as coworkers +1. Offers to buy my drinks, “No.” Bill comes, he forcibly takes it (I’m working) & pays.
amyvolume
2/3 Let’s me know how costly it was (it would have been free for me BECAUSE I WAS WORKING) & follows me out to my work vehicle, trying to
amyvolume
3/3 “keep the night going.” - NO. Coworker: “you should be nicer to him, he likes you”. No. Call me a bitch, prude, whatever. No means no.
FartPoweredPogoStick
But I DESERVE reciprocation! I have 5 good guy points for bringing you a drink!
flamecranium
Fuck politeness.
Raeke
SSDGM
sarcasticstephie
Look. Listen. Look snd listen.
WehWehWeh
Also it's probably got roofies in it. This is what I'm thinking when I'm out, if my eyes haven't always been on a drink, it's been drugged.
WehWehWeh
Mastered the put-my-hand-over-my-glass manoeuvre if I have to look away from it
Raeke
I ordered my own drink and got drugged by the bartender. He went and made it at the other end of the bar with his back turned
WehWehWeh
There's really no safety is there, it's shite.
funkystay
I offered a dude a drink (i'm a dude) at a bar once and he said "no, but I appreciate it." I said "had to try" and smiled and walked away.
funkystay
My friend told me to keep trying, but I could tell he wasn't interested. At all. Why waste my time at that point. Plus harassment is totally
funkystay
out of character for me. But my friend kept calling me "chicken". He was an ass. This was years ago.
BanananaNotToScale
Nice job catching the signals, screw that ‘friend’, that’s not cool to pressure you.
leodavinci1
Yep. No obligation to anyone who does an unasked favor.
thewalkinged
This is a weird metaphor. Why aren't you teaching the lad that if a girl says no thanks to a drink, she doesn't want the fucking drink. Fuck
Rheios
IMO, its self evident and most of us who aren't in our clingy attraction stage realize, and the bad people who should follow it never would
ropetopus
It's from a book about setting limits and saying no generally, not about being assaulted
Weregerbil2
Nobody's gonna buy a book about how they are the problem, but they might buy one about how to deal with problem people and realize its them.
upsidedownyhead
There are two lessons. This is only one perspective. The other is don't hassle people, right?
mothernature94
Because when people try to teach it, other people get mad and go, "you're saying all lads are rapists!" So this is how it has to be taught.
thewalkinged
And you should act accordingly and not rape her.
Dagordae
Because that’s not the subject of the book. That’s a different book. This book is how to avoid and counter said manipulations.
rhmrcScifiBandit
"No" is a complete sentence
ZombieDK
Serial killers also rely on people's politeness to outweigh the voice in their head telling them to run
SashaTheBlackCat
A guy from my parent's church asked my sister out. My sister said no and my mom said she should go out with him cause 1/?
SashaTheBlackCat
You never know, you might like him and to just accept the date. My sister didn't like him, and this guy would keep coming up to talk 2/?
SashaTheBlackCat
To her and my sister hated it and my mom kept pushing her to go out with him (in my mom's eyes he was a nice Catholic boy). 3/?
SashaTheBlackCat
I'd have to explain to my mom over and over that if she accepted when she had no desire to then this guy would think he could just 4/?
SashaTheBlackCat
Wear her down and she'd eventually cave and that's so awful and creepy. My mom just would not get it. 5/?
SashaTheBlackCat
I would always stand up for my sister because if she didn't want to do it, then that's what mattered. 6/?
Foisted
“I said I didn’t want a drink, why’d you get me one?”
Foisted
Idc how rude I sound, shit like that is just authoritarian behaviour disguised as chivalry
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Honestly, anything that looks like chivalry has me suspicious immediately. Very questionable set of values there.
Fuckme721
Honestly, I agree. If someone says no to an offer, it's rude to keep being a pushy bastard about the offer.
MyleKeville
Yeah Grandma, fuck off with that delicious food.
DisgruntledFerret
Hahaha. "Now I know you didn't want anything for your birthday, but I still wanted to give you this card with 20--" Pow! Down goes Nana.
RevolutionOnHerLips
I know this is a joke but setting boundaries with family members is also important to your well being. Sometimes that does involve food.
GalacticOverlord
This. It's bad enough we're socialized to tolerate bs from strangers, but it is ingrained since birth to tolerate family. I finally had 1/?
GalacticOverlord
to put my foot down with my mother after an entire childhood filled with abuse that hopped right over into adulthood. I can't tell you 2/?
GalacticOverlord
how often people justified their abuse with "Respect your mother/father!", even though they were patently aware that both parents were 3/?
GalacticOverlord
scummy and mentally unhinged. Even when it's obvious that relatives are abusive, we're judged by total outsiders that demand that we 4/?
sumocat2
So hard to meet people by offering drinks except if you buying shots for everyone.
nomorestarsinthesky
Not really, you just ask if they want one. If they decline, just accept it and introduce yourself. Either way, you initiate a conversation.
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Honestly, if you want to meet people, walk your dog outside of the bar.
Hismomoness
If your gonna go so far as to walk your dog, just go to the park instead
nomorestarsinthesky
Confirmed, dogs are people magnets
DontDoWhatDonaldDontDoes
Just dont hand a girl a drink, bring them to the bar and offer to buy whatever they want
TheUseriestName
This also means you have a few moments to chat while it's being made, and she can watch it being made too. Flawless! (Sorta)
Hismomoness
Unfortunately there are still bartenders willing to slip something in a drink for the right price :(
RevolutionOnHerLips
In that scenario unless you're refusing all drinks from the bar, I'm not sure what else you can do.
worktolivemylife
I’ve been drugged before,my friend was there though,but my naive brain took a year to realise I was drugged. Remember one drink then nothing
Raeke
Same! Two drinks then nothing. Drugged by the bartender. Dude got fired but never prosecuted. I was young and stupid and wanted it over
worktolivemylife
Fuck those guys that think this is ok! Glad you had friends too
Raeke
Agreed! Like, if you have to literally incapacitate someone to get laid you’re already doing something wrong and you can’t argue otherwise
Onsvaltti
What a cunt, I hope he gets his teeth crushed. It's not your fault.
Raeke
Luckily I was with friends and they just took me home, and I was friends with the bar manager so he was 100% fired. Could have ended /1
Raeke
VERY differently though /2
happyrabbitzz
Or "No, get the fuck away from me."
NutellaElephant
And another incel is born.
Jackofslayers
“I DONT KNOW YOU SIR!”
CompletelyOrdinaryBystander
Initiate unsolicited dick pic protocols. Relate with other nice guys on 4chan when complete.
happyrabbitzz
Kehy
Send horse dicks in reply
IamTOOOLDforThisShite
But ... that's not what the rom-coms showed me to do ...
Ynigmatyk
As an innocent man just looking for love. Don't use that as a 1st resort please.
cadesama
Take the first no as an answer.
ZoidbergIsGreat
1st resort? No, that would be excessive. 3rd attempt and now asking me to drink something I haven't seen poured? Fuck yourself with a cactus
ZoidbergIsGreat
Not you specifically of course... I do understand that it's hard to make an attempt to ask a lady out
LadyKatie
Oh don’t worry. Because as a woman just trying to live... it would be unsafe for me.
rayvn
It was her third time declining in the above situation. A 'fuck off' is appropriate.
Ynigmatyk
But I was only making an (apparently unwanted) suggestion for the 1st response personally id take one no and leave her alone
Dagordae
In the given scenario it’s the 3rd resort. If she has already refused you twice, fuck off. And that’s pushing it, the rule is one refusal is
Dagordae
Enough. We aren’t playing by fairy rules here, you are not owed 3 chances.
BlacknCrimsonRose
I'm pretty sure that was meant as a final "stop". If you're innocent trying to talk, would you keep pushing a drink or try something else?
RevolutionOnHerLips
The drink isn't the point, tho. Let's say you work up the nerve to ask someone on a date. They say no. Later, you ask again. They say no.
RevolutionOnHerLips
They shouldn't have to keep telling you no. Respect people's boundaries.
MrStealYourGiF
Don't worry about being rude, worry about being roofied.
rowanmc
True but also sad :(.
BrovoFoxtrot
When I realized this wasn’t about getting roofied I was shocked
DidItForScience
Someone roofied my friend's drink once. She had a couple sips of her first drink and couldn't really even stand. I ended up carrying 1/2
DidItForScience
her out of the rave and drove her back to a friend's place in her car. 2/2
freakdiablo
Even as a guy, first thought was "soda can still be roofied..." Screw coming off as rude, better to be safe than sorry.
goodbyepants
I knew a guy that got roofied. He barely got away.
IsThisUsernameRelevant
Foisted
“Nah, I’m alright. You drink it, I insist.” ...”Yes, go on. Right now.”
RhamnusiaThePaladin
I just take the drink to the nearest sink and pour it out. Then crush and trash the cup.
Onsvaltti
I forgot that not all drinks are served in glasses, and home parties are a thing. :D "YOU DESTROYED GLASS?" Oh it was a plastic cup...
Coolmikefromcanada
pour it on his shoes and say "i said no drinks"
Cinsay
Also worried guys take a firm no as an excuse to call you rude and get angry, pushy, and dangerous.
Cinsay
But I’d still say no.
Appollon
Then you can be glad you didn't say yes to a guy like that.
nanabroccolifart
Fuck politeness.
Sarahbutnottherealsarah
I drank a girl mates drink she left unattended for 5 mins one night. 2nd drink of the night and I don't remember the rest of the night.
zenoxomega
A couple years back, I was at a bar. I was a little broke at the time and I saw an abandoned drink and asked the bartender about it
zenoxomega
She told me a girl left it there, so I asked if I could have it. She didnt know is anything was done to it but I didnt care
zenoxomega
I was there to get absurdly fucked up, as I wasnt in a good place. Being a large man who was in relatively good health. I downed it
zenoxomega
I only had 3 drinks but as hank hill do. I'll tell you what! I was fucking trashed and shit faced after 40 minutes. Something was in it 100%
zenoxomega
I told the bartender, told my coworkers who were drinking with me. Then walked the 2 blocks to my apartment,
DickDastardly404
Also if you are still concerned about being rude, its not an either/ or. You can say, at that point, something along the lines of “hey, 1/2
DickDastardly404
I understand you’re just trying to be nice, but I already said ‘no thanks’, so i need you to stop.” The point being, its okay to 1.5/2
DickDastardly404
Explain yourself. Of course, you don’t NEED to explain yourself, but if you find confrontation difficult, it is possible to maintain 1.75/2
DickDastardly404
Your ground, AND not be rude. Ofc at the same time some people are pushy enough that they only get it when you ARE rude... idk read the room
wabitgirl
Women don't take to explaining themselves because they are often a) contradicted and ignored or b) attacked for having the audacity
JumalautaPerkele
I got roofied on accident, I think. Brought drinks for my group. One of the drinks looked girly... that was my drink and it was roofied.
kmikl
Happened to me when I was out one time with my ex. I found out who did it and
DrPizzazz
MinnesotaMathew
dudes get roofied too... dude.
MrStealYourGiF
Damn!
JumalautaPerkele
It was a blur after that drink. Lucky I was with group of friends that looked after me. They knew something was wrong and got me home.
JumalautaPerkele
Obviously they missed their target... I think. Or I was the target. Still a shitty thing to do.
Onsvaltti
Hyvä ettei käynyt mitään :/ kukahan sen teki. Joku ulkopuolinen vai teidän porukasta? Vittu mitä paskaa.
FlatPlutoSociety
I got roofied on purpose I think. I'm a guy. I was out with three girls. I think the idea was to remove me and isolate the girls. It sucked.
ThatOneGuyFromTv
Same thing happened to me, but as far as I know I was actually the target.
FlatPlutoSociety
Oof. I hope you were okay by the end of the night.
ThatOneGuyFromTv
Not great if I'm honest, I remember most of it, I just couldn't do anything about it. It's a disgusting feeling.
theredacted
If they have one roofie they probably have access to as much as they want. Might as well roofie anyone in your way lol
ThatOneGuyFromTv
I know this is a joke, but please don't roofie people.
akspartankiiier
How did it feel? I have a fantasy of being drugged (with people I’m safe with, not some randoms)
spaceystacey
I was lucky to have friends with me that found me in the toilet vomiting and called my parents for a ride. Confusion, delirium, exhaustion
ekzeko
From talking with people who have gone through it, the panic of not knowing what is happenning and what might happen is far worse than-
ekzeko
any potential fetishistic benefit you could gain from feeling powerless. It's the common trend with those secret garden fantasies, in -
ekzeko
reality, being truly powerles (No safe word kind of paradigms) truly ruins the rest. But I mean, I ain't been ruffied so...
NimbleDickCrabb
This guy gets it
sexytangerine
Lol
akspartankiiier
FlatPlutoSociety
Pretty bad. Like getting WAY drunker than I expected all at once. And with a vicious headache in the morning.
akspartankiiier
Ouchie mamacita. I’m sorry that happened
spaceystacey
True. That headache was as bad as one of my migraines
KillerTofu615
for me, confusion, delirium, dizziness, blacked out for a while. Woke up with a girl I've never met riding me.
akspartankiiier
Oaf. I’m sorry that happened.
HolyCowDoNotEat
Yikes
KillerTofu615
Yeah.. was super weird. I was in the military at the time so having to report that I'd been drugged freaking sucked too.
CritterrCatcher
I drank the drink and blacked out 100%, woke up the next day with my face, palms, and knees covered in scrapes and remember nothing
akspartankiiier
Ouch! I’m sorry that happened.
CritterrCatcher
The only time I have ever “blacked out”
JumalautaPerkele
Yeah, wasn't same as being drunk. Friend told me I was easy to lead around. Thankfully it was my friend and not someone else.