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CrankyCook
Humanity is about helping those who are in need
AyeRight
I’m disabled and I’m about to be made redundant. I’m shitting myself about re-entering the job market.
Toodamagedtocare
My baby sister is disabled and yes it absofuckinglutely pisses me off. We have been dealing with it for 50 years and it is bullshit !!
codenameRadical
Having a disability is a pain in the ass. It makes work stuff hard, too. People just cannot conceive of working with me on shit.
InfiniteBirds
My brother had a medical procedure that left him wheelchair bound for about a year. It was an eye-opening, rage inducing experience.
MonkeyBuns
And it does make me angry as fuck!!! We absolutely need to vote out every incumbent and get a new crew in. Those who will work together.
grandopening
I am teaching my first Deaf student and I am so glad we have services for her! But, I’m worried about how well I’m servicing her learning.
Tezunegari
In my experience buildings accessible to the disabled are more comfortable to access for the abled as well.
RunawaySpoons
Yup. Universal design benefits everyone, disabled and nondisabled people alike.
jimmythehat1
I saw something saying they lose a lot of benefits if they marry too, and something about them not being allowed to have assets totaling ov
jimmythehat1
over $2000, or they'd lose benefits. It's like, of course, they don't have a quality of life, because you didn't let them have one
Idontcondoneit
We are all future disabled, either through age or accident, ADA construction really is for everyone.
MrStealUrMeme
I work with complex home medical equipment for people with sever disabilities. We are just one unlucky trip/fall away from being disabled
MrStealUrMeme
Its not just autoimmune disease, age, or wounded veterans. It's jumping into a shallow lake, fall down stairs, car accident, slip on ice,..
HeartsAndStars
It was really nice to attend meetings on Zoom and not have my debilitating anxiety rage so hard that I started shaking. Imma miss Zoom.
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
America trying so hard to keep 50’s America a thing.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Nope. Republicans only want to racist parts back. They don't want anything else from those days. Like taxes for the rich.
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
Hey! Don’t judge Republicans that hard! They want the sexist parts back too!
flamingflamingo
Did you know that if you keep framing your arguments this way it gets really painful to read them even if I agree with you?
AhoyHoyy
Did you know that I agree with you?
Mellamew
I fucking hate it here.
activeracer28
If humanity worked together, we could become gods. But the rich keep us fighting each other so they can have financial gains.
usersayswhat
The rich are fighting us more than each other
XplodingUnicornGlitter
Not gods, but a helluva lot better than we are now. Currently, we’re barbaric.
Zindarak1
become gods?
secretdpp
What man has wrought let no god tear asunder
aggregatenow
Man, somedays I realise the NHS really does have some cool pathways and welfare options.
RunawaySpoons
It's pretty decent at keeping people alive. (DWP less so, but still better than across the pond.) Quality of life is a problem though, the
RunawaySpoons
NHS is not so good at that for various reasons.
lonewolfmcquaid
The US is a shithole country
THEREALSTEVEHOLT
Don't know where she is, but here in Colorado they're strict as fuck on ADA requirements in new construction.
QueefMalone
Things were pretty streamlined there for a bit...for a lot of people.
cheesealtar
I agree with everything in this post but the disabled man WASNT denied food...
unkiereamus
Except telehealth was absolutely a thing before the pandemic, as was remote work. They were just expanded greatly.
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
If she lied/didn’t know enough about that, than she probably lied/doesn’t know enough about the other stuff she is talking about either.
thatgotoutofhand
Yeah, it sounds like a case of someone who couldn't bd helped and the family disagreed on goals of care. It happens a lot, and its always a
thatgotoutofhand
brutal situation to deal with
NurietaGM
And the case was way more complex & less inflammatory than what this post suggests. Docs did everything medically possible for him (1/2)
NurietaGM
(2/2) In some occasions disease progression and injuries are incompatible with life and there's nothing medicine can do.
Ihopethisisfree
Yeah would love a source on that, it’s super illegal.
LordNergal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/05/coronavirus-disability-death/ Basically? He was fucked and there was no saving him.
Ihopethisisfree
Thanks for the article, definitely not as clear cut as the tweets make it seem, not really surprising.
Flamingoid
I know a guy who's been appealing courts, for probably a decade now, to let him get his pilot's license. They're the only thing stopping him
slyvic
Is it just me or Texas seems really fucked up?
Crowlands
#3 And Republicans say universal healthcare will have death panels...
LordNergal
That one contains a bit of bullshit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/05/coronavirus-disability-death/
Crowlands
So, he was treated differently because his sister explicitly signed off on him being treated differently. Huh.
Averien
See, as someone who's disabled, this pisses me off. The assumption of single-solution, the misinformation to hyperbolize a situation 1/
Averien
that is bad enough *without* hyperbolizing it, the snarky, self-righteous condescension... it all does more to slow progress than help it.
BortSamps0n
This one individual does not represent the group as a whole her opinion on the facts is what it is and will not slow the process in any 1
BortSamps0n
Meaningful way compared to the malicious ways others act to brush disabled people under the rug and keep the issue outta public ears
Averien
Exaggeration and hyperbole does more to deter undecideds than silence. You take someone who was ignorant that there was a problem, and 1/
Averien
create someone who is certain that there isn't one, and changing a formed opinion is far harder than informing an absence of one. 2/2
StormSaxon
As someone that works in site development, any new work is designed to accommodate ADA requirements. At least in the DMV area.
StormSaxon
And it drives the direction of many projects. It's highly considered.
dudehiemer
Are these disabled people Human? Then they deserve Human rights, just like every other Terran Human. But fuck those Martian Humans.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Well, the disabled ones, at least
Vergath
Earthers always look down on dusters and skinnies
geoffreyfourmyle
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XplodingUnicornGlitter
That’s the thing. There’s a good chunk of the population that think they’re less than human. The exact mindset that the Nazis used to 1
XplodingUnicornGlitter
Further their experiments and agenda. 2/2
LiterallyAWizard
Space belongs to the Spacenoids!
PoliticalWanderer
Oh great, you had to bring the Martians into this. Now we have Martian Marines incoming.
JCBalance
Ack!
geoffreyfourmyle
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Damned Adeptus Mechanicus
GodsFoot
Go back to fucking toasters Marsy boys
Mackeroy
in that case we're revoking your access to our services, good luck effecting galactic crusades with no one to maintain your equipment, meaty
Wraid
XplodingUnicornGlitter
I work with and have worked with differently abled children, teens, and adults for years. Many people don’t realize how much the world is 1
XplodingUnicornGlitter
Catered to able bodied or atypical people. This last year really should have opened people’s eyes and it HASN’T. People should be ASHAMED.
StormWingDelta
The other issue is how do you make it so anyone can do any job without risk to their or others' safety? It can be done but they need to try.
afatrollofmyown
The other keyword is "choice" Who gets to choose?
XplodingUnicornGlitter
Try* is the keyword there.
RunawaySpoons
+1 for the sentiment, but just so you know the generally preferred term is 'disabled people' ? a lot of us rly dislike 'differently abled'.
afatrollofmyown
I used to use different-abled because I'm deaf, and a lot of the time "disabled" is conflated with "wheelchair user"
RunawaySpoons
Understandable. In terms of access (and indeed the law) deafness counts as a disability but each disabled person is free to identify however
RunawaySpoons
they wish ? A huge part of disability awareness is about trying to dispel the notion that disabled = wheelchair user, and I don't know if >
XplodingUnicornGlitter
Oh , okay. I never want to use anything offensive. I’ve had people tell me otherwise so I’m unsure. Please, be aware we are trying.
RunawaySpoons
Generally identity-first language is preferred by disabled people, but not everywhere or everyone has caught up yet. Even 'official' advice
RunawaySpoons
(usually written by nondisabled people) frequently gets it wrong still. But if individuals try, that's great! We're all learning ?
theangryjanitor
What about people suffering from mental illness?
mkd64
Suck it up. It's not a 'real' disability. /s
Aurgasmic
I almost replied with a "go fucking sit on a morning star" before I saw the '/s' because that first part irked me so much.
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
Many mental illnesses are classified as disabilities so, this applies, generally.
theangryjanitor
How?
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
What do you mean how? how are they classified? Or how it applies? If a mental problem interferes with working and doctors agree and you're -
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
- lucky, you can get it classified as a disability. It applies in that all the various stigmas and discriminations also apply to them.
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
Just differently. Different flavors of crap.
LovesToSpooge517
There are some accommodations possible if you have documented mental illness. I don’t know the full extent but they exist.
theangryjanitor
Neat.
RevolutionOnHerLips
Yep. I will probably end up requesting an ADA accommodation from my work to continue WFH. If I don't go long-term disability, anyway.
LovesToSpooge517
I hope that can work out for you!
feryooday
it is SO hard to get disability for a mental illness
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
Oh yes. It helps if your sort of mental issue has an EZ physical cause, like if you have trouble thinking because you're anemic.
OhIfIMust
It's all in your head anyway, have you never considered just not feeling that way? /s
RunawaySpoons
Well … where else would you expect a mental illness to be?! :p But just b/c it originates in someone's head doesn't make it any less real.
muffintop666
/s means sarcasm, OhIfImust was not being serious ahah
greatwyrm4512
Friend of mine checked into a hospital for mental health issue’s. His doctors called Social Security and basically said either he gets
greatwyrm4512
disability or he dies. He was going to kill himself if he left without it. Social Security gave him his disability in 16 days. I know its
greatwyrm4512
an exception and not the norm but its one way of doing it.
DeanOMiite
I worked as a job coach for individuals with disabilities for a bit and WOW the system is not set up for that population.
Dappin
I have a masters degree in psychology and a brain injury. Knowing how hard the system is, I pay an intern at $20/hr to help me navigate it.
somethingstupidandclever
Transport for ada at a major music festival. Many say its more accessible than where they live. Now that i see it i notice it everywhere.
runefjord2
I am disabled and was told by my local job-office (I dont know the english term) "if they want to hire you, they will make it accesable" 1/2
runefjord2
I now tell every new case-worker just to test if they are total idiots or not
MyCatsNameIsPotato
Is it an American thing or a world wide thing?
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Still a world wide issue. Brand new library in Calgary Canada still had accessibility issues
DeanOMiite
Couldn't tell ya. Wouldn't be surprised if it was semi global though
LastoftheLillyCreatures
german here: it's world wide. The US is in many aspects better on that front than germany (and much of europe I'd guess)
rayeofsunshine
UK is better than it used to be
RunawaySpoons
Eh, better but there's still a long way to go. The points about accommodation and accessibility are particularly true here. The benefits
RunawaySpoons
system is extremely difficult for the most vulnerable people to successfully navigate, and decisions are often wrong. However we don't >
RunawaySpoons
routinely need lawyers to get the right decision, so there's that!
Taxicat
It really, really isn’t. Jobs also like to sneak little bits into the ads to deliberately discourage people with even mild >
Taxicat
>disabilities from even applying. Stuff like “MUST be able to lift 50 lbs without accommodation” or “MUST be able to use >
NurietaGM
My job 'required' that. I am a manager in the QC department of a pharma company. I spend 6hrs in front of the PC & 2hrs walking around.
Taxicat
>audio-only phones for 5+ hours every day.”
DeanOMiite
KibaNoShirogitsu
"Must be able to stand/walk for entirety of shift" is one I hate seeing, I know some of jobs really do require it, but a ton of them don't.
StormWingDelta
To be fair depending on the job how do you make it so these people can even do the job? Not trying to be ableist but we need fixes to these
Drew442
Bringing people back to the workplace has more to do with useless managers justifying their jobs.
YourPoliticalPostBlows
AttackoftheRobotMonkeys
Covid WFH made my prior position that there was zero need for me to come into work completely validated. Slowly reeled back in and it SUCKS
GrandPubabofMoldistan
On the one hand I agree. On the other hand, if I work from home I get bugged by corporate for an extra 3-4 hours a day unpaid so
Tesseract09
"whoops, my internet dropped out"
GrandPubabofMoldistan
I do not actually have the ability to work from home and have said that I would need remote access and overtime or I will do it tomorrow
iusedtodream
Fact.
thisismysociallife
my mom went back to work within 3 days her entire office basically the entire company said "no i don't want to work in cubicles"
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
Of the dozens of managers at my place or any others, 0 is going back to ofc more than 1 day/week. All are today cool remote.
usersayswhat
And the workers below then getting the same treatment?
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
Yep. Almost all are 100% remote going fwd.
MacClay
A guy at work keeps bitching that the unit I'm in gets the stay home, despite there not being even a theoretical reason why we need to go in
XplodingUnicornGlitter
Is he a middle manager?
MacClay
He wishes. Lead Worker. Tried to justify it by saying we could help run the machines on our downtime. That isn't our job. Like at all.
FunnyItWorkedLastTime
The people who advocate for return to work (unnecessarily) probably do so because they need the ego validation more than anything.
MacClay
Pretty much. Dude is super mad that he couldn't swerve his job into a management position, keeps forgetting he isn't our boss.
Anarric
Idk, as an IT professional who is told "we have to be on site" (even though boss doesnt, different story 4 another time) People made >
Anarric
> the 9-5 commute YEARS prior to Covid, and now making them come back is like pulling teeth; Funny that the same crowd that says "nothing >"
Anarric
>"..is expected in a company, not privacy etc" are the same people who feel entitled to work from home now that they've been show they can >
Anarric
> I'm not salty tbh, I just want to be treated the equally in a profession that basically created WFH /rant
JCBalance
Thats the whole point. People commuted for years to a job they could've done from home.
Iresemblethatremark
You just described why the person you were responding to was right. It was about a manager's ego.
gradeD
I feel like it's partly that and partly being done to serve the interests of commercial real estate holders, gotta rent that office space
shoshana
Not only. A conversation via video is not as efficient as a real conversation. Especially when teaching/learning is implied.
shoshana
It has been scientifically proven.
MaverickTama
Source?
FreaksOnWheels
This was explicitly described to a friend of mine on one of the reasons she may have to go back to the office.
andwings2go
This. The powers that be aren’t going to allow trillions of dollars of commercial real estate to become worthless.
Anarric
Is this why companies are now buying up houses?
andwings2go
There needs to be more talk about this. I think solutions would even be bipartisan.
Flowerlady0
Yes. When everybody has to move back to the larger City areas to be physically at work, they will only find houses for rent.
andwings2go
That is really disturbing. They want individual home ownership to completely go away
thisismysociallife
America is moving into a nation of wage slaves and consumers our freedoms slowly drained until we are held obedient to the 1%
BluLuna
My company flat out said, "We have ten years left on the lease. We have to be in the building...but not enough parking. So 50% remote max."
philosoraptor1000
They're paying the money regardless, so why pay more for the higher utilities and maint. costs of bringing everyone back.
BluLuna
Also said we were more productive and made the most profit remote than we have before. Then said if that goes down at all, no more remote /1
BluLuna
Which honestly. If productivity/profit goes down while we're doing the hybrid thing, then that means being in the office failed so wtf.