At least the poster doesn't have the watermark. I have a copy of Okami for the Wii and Capcom sent it out to be printed with the IGN watermark on the actual game box.
Im suggesting using some 3d models made for this particular movie, or just some pre-composed scene that exists for this movie .. put the camera into that and render a still - which costs a renderfarm about 10 minutes. Better look. Better composition. Its propably cheaper then grabbing stock too
Right? Absolutely baffling move. Like you can grab the stock photo, which is what it's there for. OR grab the stock photo, use it to build an entire mesh, texture that mesh (probably with the stock photo) and then pose it in the same pose... why lmao
what is the point and what is a "pignatta" because I'm pretty sure whatever company was contracted to make this poster (which is definitely not a filmed scene) don't have "go and take fresh shots of sharks in the water" in their budget
Category error... Wilhelm Scream and Castle Thunder are stock sound effects used in everything. Blue Waffle is a lame shock search term that doesn't really affect anyone anymore.
... that doesn't really affect anyone anymore... yeah, not when you spoil the surprise /s agreed, i think google has become better at keeping people away from those gag pranks unless you really are looking for it
is the "good faith" read of the post that they weren't supposed to use publicly available stock photos but generate unique ones cause they are a big studio?
No. Stock photos are for sale, for people to use in everything (typically) marketing. They pay either a one-time high fee or a percentage if the use-case is royalty based.
You thought stock photos were all public use? No, it's a business, and industry. NOT public domain (which is why there's a Getty logo across the image--the give you a copy without the logo when you pay up).
Using stock photos for shit in the background isn't "the minimum". Do you expect every film production to create absolutely everything from scratch, every time?
It absolutly is for a cgi movie.. they render scenes like this all day ever day. Usually ine whole movie of work is thrown away. Using stock footage where then shadows dont line up is cheaper then ai
Dude do you think it's cost effective for them to go out to the ocean to take pictures of sharks just to use in the background of their poster? The fuck is wrong with you lol
This is from a movie that rendered a ocean worth of cgi fishes. Go fuck yourself with your projected "my opponent always chooses the stupidest possible explanation " gaslighting. Not everyone here is retarded and falls for this crap
It's the poster. It's a still image. You don't need to create sharks for it. This is a perfectly acceptable use of stock images. It's not like this is a famous image of a shark that everyone would recognize. Who fuckin cares
Tho, the advertisment and different posters are probably done by another company specialised on that and not done by the studio that has the 3D Assets used in the movie...
Often the posters have to be made long before the movie is completed and all the CGI and special effects have been done. They have to make their own images up, or use stock photos.
both hollywood and game aaa productions have always used publicly available libraries. Ever heard of wilhelm scream? I recognize dozens of sounds like that in productions of any size
I brought it up because someone reading this comment will recognize it. People will not recognize what I mean by "the female screams of the iron maidens in DungeonKeeper" which is a sound effect I hear in about 1/6 horror/action movies. And there's many more like that I recognize again and again, but I also wasn't particularly in the mood to look up their names or compilations on YT
Yes, that's supposed to be the artist job. If they can't even be bothered to create art for the poster, it tells you exactly what the film is going to be: copy and paste + AI slop.
People realizing that sound effects and visuals are reused between movies, games, etc. is like kids discovering Santa isn't real.
Whether you like it or not most media will use sound libraries and stock images for stuff. You just usually don't recognize them because you don't spend all your time browsing sound libraries and stock images
...Create... art?? If they want a photorealistic shark the easiest and best way is to get a good stock photo, and manipulate it in. I reaaaaally don't see what people were expecting here.
Yes, absolutely, a lot of movie posters are hand-painted or digital *art* but even then they'd be heavily using references, most likely stock like this.
No, as the guy mentioned above marketing usually has no actual connection to the people that created the art or effects in the movie. So yes, there should be no expectation of actual originality
Strong disagree, I think it says a lot about the quality of the production if they don't care about what their 3rd party contractors produce. Who you hire, and the work they produce in your behalf does actually reflect on you. Especially if you officially endorse it.
You really think highly of the movie industry that just cranks out slop day after day just to make money. They don’t care about any of that. The artist might but the companies pushing this could care less. The cheaper the better
mrthewhitee
Next your gonna tell me that trident wasn't forged by an underwater blacksmith and isn't fully battle quality.
DYSBcero
Shoulda went with adorkastock stock photos
WiiShaker
At least the poster doesn't have the watermark. I have a copy of Okami for the Wii and Capcom sent it out to be printed with the IGN watermark on the actual game box.
IceWeaselX
It bugs me that he said they "cropped it onto their poster."
hyptosis
Yeah that made me more angry than anything else he said, i bet he says 'pan the camera' all the time for everything other than panning a camera.
GreenFox
They'll just use AI next time. Problem Solved ™
Rustsavit
Next you'll tell me this photo wasn't taken underwater.
PicassoCT
They cheap out so hard on the CGI studios, the artists regularly go bankrupt- so it would be "in the budget" to have several cgi posters rendered?
mastrocj
Are you suggesting they should have someone draw a realistic shark from scratch rather than just use a photo of an actual shark?
PicassoCT
Im suggesting using some 3d models made for this particular movie, or just some pre-composed scene that exists for this movie .. put the camera into that and render a still - which costs a renderfarm about 10 minutes. Better look. Better composition. Its propably cheaper then grabbing stock too
Feralkyn
Right? Absolutely baffling move. Like you can grab the stock photo, which is what it's there for. OR grab the stock photo, use it to build an entire mesh, texture that mesh (probably with the stock photo) and then pose it in the same pose... why lmao
Etereo
That is not the point you dumb pignatta
gnomedeplume
what is the point and what is a "pignatta"
because I'm pretty sure whatever company was contracted to make this poster (which is definitely not a filmed scene) don't have "go and take fresh shots of sharks in the water" in their budget
CatSparkleBreaker
practical effects only, you better drown for your art!
DdCno1
IIRC, there was an '80s action movie that included a real unplanned scene of a stuntman getting mauled by a shark.
CatSparkleBreaker
Now THAT'S showbusiness!
TheMoonBnuuy
Nobody tell him about the Wilhelm Scream or Castle Thunder
comadose
No way, whats next? The fact that tropes exist?
rabidpenguine
Or Blue Waffle
TCooley79
Or meatspin or lemon party
TheMoonBnuuy
Category error... Wilhelm Scream and Castle Thunder are stock sound effects used in everything.
Blue Waffle is a lame shock search term that doesn't really affect anyone anymore.
rabidpenguine
... that doesn't really affect anyone anymore...
yeah, not when you spoil the surprise /s
agreed, i think google has become better at keeping people away from those gag pranks unless you really are looking for it
cyno01
Nah, the corporations got that one.
TheMoonBnuuy
those are actually really tasty
taez555
Wait till he finds out Jason Mamoa can't actually breathe underwater.
DownUpUpDown
Is that your hypotheses or do you have actual proof?
unremarkableasterisk
Not with that attitude, he can't.
emu314159127001
Jason Momoa never lived in the pegasus galaxy either:(
JurgenWindcallerz
Uhhhhm proof????
BADASSartoo
https://i.imgur.com/5pvBwEc
Infinias
He can't?!??
Sh1tMovieGroup
*citation needed..
Clayman8
Its Jason Momoa... what scares me is that he probably can actually.
BoltActionGearbox
He's from Hawaii, of course he can
Sebastopol140
azazyel
Someone at an event asked him if he was going to learn to swim, he was like Dude, I'm from Hawaii, I can swim
charliechaplinslookalike
That’s like asking a Canadian if they can skate
Fendeezy
To be fair, can't assume everyone from Hawaii knows how to swim.
omgzwtfs
Not true. Anyone can breathe underwater for the rest of their life
JurgenWindcallerz
Akchually…
ClutterMonkey
True. A gram of uranium contains 20,000,000 calories. More than enough for the rest of your life.
TheAmazingBlahaj
Jinxer13
is the "good faith" read of the post that they weren't supposed to use publicly available stock photos but generate unique ones cause they are a big studio?
KommanderKayriel
No. First guy's a fucking idiot.
Etereo
Yes.
NotASpeckOfCereal
No. Stock photos are for sale, for people to use in everything (typically) marketing. They pay either a one-time high fee or a percentage if the use-case is royalty based.
You thought stock photos were all public use? No, it's a business, and industry. NOT public domain (which is why there's a Getty logo across the image--the give you a copy without the logo when you pay up).
rfur
That would be my hope for a big studio or franchise. Go create art, not stoop to the minimum
locksmith9
"Damn girl, you stupid!"
whatsisname
Using stock photos for shit in the background isn't "the minimum". Do you expect every film production to create absolutely everything from scratch, every time?
PicassoCT
It absolutly is for a cgi movie.. they render scenes like this all day ever day. Usually ine whole movie of work is thrown away. Using stock footage where then shadows dont line up is cheaper then ai
barrocoyote
Dude do you think it's cost effective for them to go out to the ocean to take pictures of sharks just to use in the background of their poster? The fuck is wrong with you lol
PicassoCT
This is from a movie that rendered a ocean worth of cgi fishes. Go fuck yourself with your projected "my opponent always chooses the stupidest possible explanation " gaslighting. Not everyone here is retarded and falls for this crap
barrocoyote
It's the poster. It's a still image. You don't need to create sharks for it. This is a perfectly acceptable use of stock images. It's not like this is a famous image of a shark that everyone would recognize. Who fuckin cares
Treiskaideka
Tho, the advertisment and different posters are probably done by another company specialised on that and not done by the studio that has the 3D Assets used in the movie...
CarlBassett
Often the posters have to be made long before the movie is completed and all the CGI and special effects have been done. They have to make their own images up, or use stock photos.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
That's the real good faith version of this, yeah. Marketing doesn't tend to be internal for any of these things, and that includes posters.
dreikommavierzehn
both hollywood and game aaa productions have always used publicly available libraries. Ever heard of wilhelm scream? I recognize dozens of sounds like that in productions of any size
Arbitrarynamehere
That's a poor example since it's kind of a meme.
I agree with your point though
dreikommavierzehn
I brought it up because someone reading this comment will recognize it.
People will not recognize what I mean by "the female screams of the iron maidens in DungeonKeeper" which is a sound effect I hear in about 1/6 horror/action movies. And there's many more like that I recognize again and again, but I also wasn't particularly in the mood to look up their names or compilations on YT
HeresYourSauce
It's only a meme because of how widely it was used in major pictures
Arbitrarynamehere
Yeah its meaning changed over time. No one uses it in the way suggested anymore
DarthFutuza
Yes, that's supposed to be the artist job. If they can't even be bothered to create art for the poster, it tells you exactly what the film is going to be: copy and paste + AI slop.
comadose
Im not sure you know what artificial intelligence means.
cambam3000
People realizing that sound effects and visuals are reused between movies, games, etc. is like kids discovering Santa isn't real.
Whether you like it or not most media will use sound libraries and stock images for stuff. You just usually don't recognize them because you don't spend all your time browsing sound libraries and stock images
Feralkyn
...Create... art?? If they want a photorealistic shark the easiest and best way is to get a good stock photo, and manipulate it in. I reaaaaally don't see what people were expecting here.
Yes, absolutely, a lot of movie posters are hand-painted or digital *art* but even then they'd be heavily using references, most likely stock like this.
jb96387
No, as the guy mentioned above marketing usually has no actual connection to the people that created the art or effects in the movie. So yes, there should be no expectation of actual originality
DarthFutuza
Strong disagree, I think it says a lot about the quality of the production if they don't care about what their 3rd party contractors produce. Who you hire, and the work they produce in your behalf does actually reflect on you. Especially if you officially endorse it.
comadose
I agree with you
jb96387
You really think highly of the movie industry that just cranks out slop day after day just to make money. They don’t care about any of that. The artist might but the companies pushing this could care less. The cheaper the better
PicassoCT
Churning out static background renders has to be cheaper