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rhcpmuse911
I don't think a school shooter would attempt to blend in. I think he would just shoot as many as possible then kill himself
gifsaregifsnotgifs
its almost like taking away peoples rights is terrible.
NaturalProgressionGaming
The shooter wasn't even a current student at the time of the shooting... so why force regulation on the current/actual students. :x
lychgate
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echonite
Did the school provide the backpacks? That would be a colossal waste of their already limited funds.
OPsFather
rex314
And for others searching for the source: The character is "Platinum the Trinity" from the game/anime BlazBlue.
victell
More security theater
liana77
Clear backpack makers are going to be making a lot of money I guess.
DownWithYouAll
So the school feels under pressure to implement security measures fine, how come they have to come up with the most dehumanizing policies.
HitTheSackJack
I've seen someone pull an entire shotgun out of their pants... so this solves nothing.
Nilowame
Is that a shotgun in your pants? or are you unhappy to see me?
Colanah
I told hubby about the clear backpacks from my HS days (92-96) and he was BAFFLED by the idea as a 04-08er. It was to stop snack sellers.
Colanah
Funnily...there was a school sponsored snack bar afterschool, doughnut Fridays and a year after I left, vending machines. *rolls eyes*
hiddenzamek
He’s going straight to the principal with that.
phoenixsphinx
"mhhh whats the best way to save our kids from shootings?" - of course clear backpacks....
TheFlyingSheep
And metal detector! “But he came from outside with a legal gun” CLEAR BACKPACKS AND METAL DETECTORS
KurtHamster
Is.. is there any logic to this? Couldn’t you just hide a gun somewhere else? Did any shooter actually have his rifle in his backpack?
ImADoctorNotAnImgurian
Nope, The shooter wasn't a student either.
Ginkawa
iirc the shooter wasn't actually an actively attending student.
jbilly90
Great so all the girls have to show their pads and tampons thats not cool
Delathi
jbilly90
Glorious
sailorparkboy
so you are saying it's bad to trample on someone's rights?
sexysexyjesus
"let's force the kids to use clear backpacks!" - Guy who has a patent for clear backpacks probably
Fazuzu
What about the parents that went all out and got the bullet proof bags.
TheBlackWindHowls
Thank God. The textbooks will be protected.
liana77
Well, if it was college those books are damned expensive...
Sabenar
Do shooters even pretend to be normal students? I feel like most of the time they just walk in with the gun already out
UmmonPrime
kids just bring a weapon to school to "show off". We had an indecent with a grenade. It was not live, but no one but the kid knew that.
Nilowame
I think both the recent one and the Columbine shooters started outside.
TheFlyingSheep
Shhhh don’t bring logic in here. The solution is not touching the legally purchased guns that caused the shooting. It was the backpacks
DirectorBright
The purchase should have been illegal, but nobody was doing their job and enforcing the laws already in place.
disposiablewhitemail
Just like in prison.
Meooooom
We have a clear bag policy at my job, but it would do nothing. Too many employees, guards are lazy, they could easily miss something.
Meooooom
Kinda scary as a guy got arrested couple weeks ago threatening to shoot up the place after getting fired...
Grunwald
But can’t you conceal the weapon underneath clothing as well??
siedler084
Clear backpacks are just security theater granting the illusion of security without much actual security
Denamic
Shh
irlborat
Yes, millions of Americans do infact. http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html
NulHeart
Transparent clothing!! By God your a genius!!
Euronyme
Depends what kind of gun I suppose. If you're planning to shoot your school up with a 50cal browning, you're gonna need a backpack
CritterJoe
How big people get in US if there is backpack that big?
Attacker732
Full barrel can't fit, cut down barrel won't work right. Just mount the Deuce on a truck, and blast away from the parking lot. 1/2
Attacker732
2/2 At least, that's what insurgent movements do when trying to cause casualties that they can & want to claim responsibility for.
Dyslexicbirch
I had one of those blow up clear ones in the 90s
Denamic
Oh my god, they can blow up?! CALL THE POLICE! HELP!
Dyslexicbirch
They where deadly
Denamic
Sad that humans can resort to such terrorism
faab64
This is so pathetic and sad
HoneNathan
Also fake.
Delathi
Then there's this guy, trying to reduce the stigma for all the girls who now have to have clear backpacks
TargaryenLoyalist
That kid’s going places.
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just4favs
Beware the male feminist, ladies.
Ragnarok1030
I dont get this. What stigma? That girls get periods? Is that new to the world? I'm not being an asshole, I legitimately do not understand
LinkaAdoptsACouger
Do you recall being a 15 y/o girl? It’s embarrassing to them.
Delathi
“Ha! Ha! She’s on the rag!” Said the teenage boy... Should it be embarrassing? No. Is it? Yes. Kids are cruel.
Sintobus
kids are assholes
Kittynomnoms
I think it's one of those things that you would just rather not show to everyone.
Ragnarok1030
I suppose I don't fully understand because I'm a guy..but it's a natural human function. I guess I don't see what's to be embarrassed about
himynameisRi
It's like a showing off your underwear to your classmates. They know we wear them, but they really don't need to see it.
UhhhhhNick
How are you going to fit an AR15 in a backpack anyway? im confused.
irlborat
Litteraly did this experiment, even with a pistol AR15 it wouldn't fit properly. The one time it zipped up it looked lile a snake ate an AR
NulHeart
I tried it and the barrel sticks out, but if I tie a bow at the top of becomes invisible to the naked eye
UhhhhhNick
AntiCircleJerker
Clear backpacks are so pointless. It just shows that neither party is really working toward real solutions.
ottercontrol
What "real" solutions do you suggest?
CitizenDickbag
How does this policy reflect on the "parties?" Especially the one that is fighting for real, sensible gun control supported by most people?
AntiCircleJerker
Which one is fighting for real change? Because they alternate being in total control and neither ever does shit. But you buy into don't you?
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AntiCircleJerker
If you're locked into one POV and refuse to actually look at what's happening, there is no help for you. Make the effort to educate yourself
FartyMcDumpstein
"we want gun control" + "we want to arm teachers" = "both are bad". The Rs control all branches of gov't related to any practical lawmaking.
AntiCircleJerker
Anyone blind and dumb enough to think "one party is to blame while the other isn't" is part of the problem. They prey on idiots like that.
FartyMcDumpstein
Your name is laughable, considering that drawing false equivalencies between the modern D and R parties *IS* the circle jerk.
AntiCircleJerker
Keep feeding the fires of ignorance by thinking things are black and white while letting two companies disguised as parties play your ass.
FartyMcDumpstein
I'm old enough to remember the R party as being actually sane. The modern R party is off the fucking wall. False equivalency attempt #3.
WhatDoYouMeanIcantStickmyFingersthere3
The Rs control but can't pass anything without the Ds help. Not enough of either party to win a majority vote by themselves.
FartyMcDumpstein
Unless it's filled with riders, I struggle to believe the Defenders of the Second Amendment will (or even want) to pass any gun control.
WhatDoYouMeanIcantStickmyFingersthere3
I know quite a few of those defenders that do, problem is all the laws in place now dont do squat. How is adding more going to do anything?
Chaossauce
So they're punishing the students with stricter regulations in response to a shooter that was NOT a student of the school at the time?
finwolven
Gun 'advocates' would rather have kids naked in school than have anyone even whisper the words 'gun control'.
BEARofVALHALLA
It's kind of like punishing law abiding citizens by confiscating their tools because one with mental health issues went full monster
zorb33
in other words, moar STRICTER gun laws
StrykeBlayde
Alternative is actually being wise and tightening up on guns/mental health a little bit.
FartyMcDumpstein
The "mental health" argument is actually also a straw man. The mentally ill are more likely to be a victim than perpetrator of violence.
Attacker732
Not inherently, because helping those people get better is something that would help society anyways.
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Attacker732
Considering that the gun control side labels suicides as a part of gun violence, I'm inclined to disagree that it's a distraction. 1/2
LeftHandPanda
Clear back packs in the school where there's already been a shooting. It's like closing the gate after the horses have escaped
DrasticBastard
But less effective.
siedler084
Security Theater. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater
BurntToast127
Well to be fair, not all of the students are dead yet.
SirPoopyButtholeTheFirst
Yea I hate when people use this analogy incorrectly. If there's more horses in the stable who haven't escaped shut the gate...
HerpestonMcDerping
You want shot? Because that's how you get shot.
brigeMlemWrecker
Wellllll do you want more horses escaping? Maybe they all diddnt leave. Maybe there's a goat that's been trying to get in on the horse life.
Baurge
And the person who did it wasn't a current student. Obviously they need to require the community to use those backpacks.
Corrodias
Is that what this is supposed to be for? Keeping people from hiding weapons? It'd be utterly ineffective, so it's not even closing the gate.
SmashingBrickCastration
I would think it's more for a false sense of safety
LikeTotallyNotTheNSA
Its like planting a banana tree by stomping some into the ground
Kangarou
It's like putting up a sign that says "Horses, please come back".
KamSolastor
It’s ‘security theater’
NicoVII
"Horses, please don't run away."
NewtonScamander
people in the states.....WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING
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BC2k2
Annnd it's gone
santacruznp
InternetExplorer2001
Our country is only 200 something years old, we're still working out some kinks.
haitamimama
Putting a bandaid on a major wound
a4riplegic
These have been standard in Chicago for many years now, as well as metal detectors in a lot of places.
a4riplegic
The backpack of course, but probably the anime up skirt too. Not too sure on that
Placentaur
I don't know get us o out of here
alecdshope
WE DON'T KNOW! http://cuckoo.ie/assets/images/blog/LOUD_noises.png
ceasefiredammit
no idea
byohzzrd
Reacting to the "crisis of the week". Why? What'd we do last week? Do you know what we're protesting next week?
feeltheice
Demand security. Lose privacy.
HughLaurie
I live in the states and have nothing to do with what's happening in the picture. You can stop generalizing now.
CatOnTheRoof
They like anime upskirts like people anywhere. That's not the end of the world.
Imahard3atbest
Keeping our guns
irritabletom
I dunno man. I'm uneasy and confused all the time. It feels surreal.
battlepants
Attacking mental health issues with clear backpacks and bulletproof plates. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ginkawa
people like looking like they are doing things about problems. they rarely want to do anything useful. or admit that useful is hard.
bzkill
winning at being retarded without actually being retarded
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
Keeping our right to bear arms safe
WorthEveryPenny
Our conservatives are worse than your conservatives. Send ramen and prayers
Viol8or
These kids asked for more government so they're getting more government.
Viol8or
They wanted rights taken away, they just never thought it would their rights.
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slyonegambit
How im assumng we look to the rest of the world
KingOpulence
If that were an obese monkey, then yes.
ThomasThundersword
i really wish i knew. unfortunately our system is broken enough the minority vote getters can (and did) win. like them or not, that should
ThomasThundersword
2/2 not be the case.
NewtonScamander
what
ThomasThundersword
in our 2018 election trump got fewer votes then Hillary but still won (and i don't rem if she even got above 50% of the vote) but my point
BernerMuntschi
Yes, sure you want a vote based on just the total of number of votes. Until you realize your current system is actually balanced. But yeah.
ThomasThundersword
2/2 was top vote getter should win, and like trump or not, if someone didn't get the most votes they shouldn't be in charge.
BryzCB
But then candidates would only visit and campaign in the bigger states. The electoral college is fair and represents the bigger picture.
Attacker732
What you propose was something the Founders explicitly tried to avoid, to prevent the majority from having complete power over everyone.
PW28
Being led by a group of imbeciles and troglodytes.
UnremarkablyInteresting
No Homo?
Shacotricks
Hey man, troglodytes are tough, they don't deserve the hate
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
We call them Republicans.
Placentaur
Honestly I wouldn't even call some of them republicans at this point
QuantumBits
"But MY congressman isn't a troglodyte, so I'm voting for them again!" --Every American voter
leon512
parrais
As a British imgurian, I think I know how you feel.
indiscriminateasshole
Yeah, hows that gun free country treating you with gun crime and homicides? oh, and "free speech"?
ByteCooled
Explain...
NewtonScamander
as a bulgarian imgurian, nigga please, we got you beat
JohnnyricoMC
As a Belgian imgurian: 589 days without an elected government.
Somnipresent
How's that going? Does shit still get done? Do they still take your bins and keep the power on?
Anister
Represent! Wait. .. do we want to?
LuxVertas
Being slaves to liberty
kingdav9
War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength
RulesOfImgur
Liberty :the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, >
jesusSaves696969
"If one would give up liberty for security. Deserves neither" -Ben Franklin
RulesOfImgur
"using a related quote in an argument changes nothing, and quotes are often wrong" - Abraham Lincoln
jesusSaves696969
+1
RulesOfImgur
or political views. So it's not liberty at all, it's ludicrously
OodleofNoodle
Heyyyooooo!!!
wellthatsjustyouropinion
couldn't a shooter just wrap a gun up in a piece of cloth/shirt/bag within the clear bag? this feels like a thoughts & prayers solution
chrismofer
it's called security theater and it's a real problem but difficult to combat
YooserNoom
Or a "politician pays his friend way too much tax money to make clear bags" kind of situation.
smarthedragon
Exactly what i was thinking.
fordtouGh
So what you are saying is that criminals always find a way and never follow the laws?
Shoutrr
no, he's saying that instead of making it harder for the bad guys to access tools to kill, this shit does nothing to prevent that.
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
stop offending my sensibilities! -gun control advocate
coolkidwestern
That might work for a handgun but for larger guns it would be nearly impossible to cover without being obvious
HughLaurie
I thought this was just a fashion thing.
LoveIsLoveWins
It’s called tucking it in your pants if it’s a pistol still someone could walk in and shoot the front office up then move on
SoooooOriginal
New, improved thoughts and prayers! Now with less thoughts and more prayers!
goatpr0n
Please do not apply logic!
Haemaelaeinen
Nah. This is clearly the best solution to US' gun problem. Make everything see-through, even clothes! That'll teach them!
SteveTypeRs
How dare you negate the effectiveness of liberal policies.
LongoloidFartExplosion
A lack of thought solution.
jetflight
It's about as constructive as screaming "NRA DID IT!". It's to give the impression of doing something while protecting corruption.
KittensGivePaarthurnaxGas
I suggest we augment the "thoughts & prayers" solution with likes, upvotes, and sending of good vibes in America's general direction.
Dakralai
The term here is security theater. Something designed to make us FEEL safe when in reality it does next to nothing. Like the TSA.
byohzzrd
Nah. This is a knee jerk reaction, with financial and logistical issues, to appease the offended while accomplishing nothing.
DannyDLC
I mean if you can fit an ar in a bag
Cmonster9
Also carry it in a pocket or waist band.
ennuii
Unfortunately the people that enact the solutions don't understand the problem, and don't want a solution they want their beliefs validated.
heyblackwolf
Also, when the shooter came from outside of school and just entered the building without being a student at the time.
UnremarkablyInteresting
Its a quick fix solution to quieten down the simple minded parents. Same reason they go after video games all the time.
sarabearr
That’s exactly what it is
WaffleDestroyer
Many inner city schools do this and have been doing this for years.
confanity
Look, the NRA making piles of money is VERY important to certain people.
jjm152
*stops kid* Why do you have something wrapped in a shirt?
wellthatsjustyouropinion
4th amendment?
swedishpancakeswithlingonberries
Most solutions like this are, it is there to make people feel safer, not actually be much safer.
ImgurPlz
100% u r rite
BizarroIsNo1
It's referred to as security theater
Fjelliskettu
Security theater
Derangedwalrushorks
Ginkawa
yes, but one which is not any worse than that which the kids were promoting. this is just more... transparent. /yeahhhhh/
liana77
Shhh. Don't be all logical.
bobdobalita
This is exactly as effective as most gun control legislation. Meaningless. "Feel good".
AteUp
Sorry of like making something illegal and pretending that will stop it? Jenius.
irlborat
There is litterally no reasonable person who thought this was an effective solution to anything.
Warblade
The way america does everything is to over react to it in a ridiculous fashion only to slowly forget about it over time.
mineovermatter
Ffs, as an American this kisses me off so much. The knee-jerk tards we have.
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DrShrinker
I honestly can't tell if that sarcasm.
Ginkawa
thankfully though, the rifles in question are used in a statistically insignificant number of incidents.
imgurdotcommie
thats because it is.
FartyMcDumpstein
And the students know it https://twitter.com/lauren_hoggs/status/980812862162657281
Alexdgod
I don't understand why privacy rights trump gun rights?
TheFlyingSheep
I don’t understand why gun rights trump everything else
Alexdgod
they don't? Freedom of speech and religious association probably trump it in my opinion.
WaltherWater
it's complex because privacy rights find their roots in the 4th amendment but aren't specifically mentioned anywhere
WaltherWater
The best solution would be creating a new amendment specifically for privacy, but they won't b/c social media would effectively die
removekarling
Because there's a very rich group bribing and deluding some small percentage of the population and a large percentage of elected officials.
schlummi
His clothes aren't clear. Enough room to hide a pistol.
S1stemat3K
Or they could legally just open carry a gun up to the school and start shooting, not bothering with a bag at all
HerrFraeulein
Yes, but what's the alternative? Oppose the NRA and prevent children from getting murdered? You see how that's not feasible, don't you?
Attacker732
... But... The NRA & gun-owning community as a whole are ALSO against the sick murdering fucks.
HerrFraeulein
I'm not saying they are pro-murder. But against restricting access to guns, no matter who's access.
thanksmonica
That's not true at all. They've pushed for gun regulation regarding former criminals and mental health issues
Attacker732
Not true. Both are against felons and the mentally ill purchasing guns, as the system in place already is intended to prevent.
Shoutrr
no. The same people acting for the defense of the 2nd are voting against mental healthcare programs, because "mah monies!".
MichaelHames
Thank you seriously people it’s mostly just a different option on how to handle the situation
Shoutrr
how do you call an opinion based only on fabricated "facts" sponsored by weapon corporations to defend their sales ? /1
MichaelHames
Dude if haven’t noticed nearly all of the mass shootings recently have taken place I gun free zones which in effect creates a shooting1
Shoutrr
the only western country with a nra style organization are the us, it's also the highest per capita nation in crimes committed with firearms
MichaelHames
Yes but overall have a lower many of the deaths related to firearms two thirds are actually suicides which is a different issue and1
Attacker732
*opinion?
MichaelHames
Both really
Shewy92
Thoughts and prayers don't do anything, this makes it look like they are doing something, like the TSA. The TSA is just security theater.
ImNotAnOrange
TSA thought a muffin I had in my bag required special screening
thisismynamehere
.. except that if you flew internationally weekly, had a choice of 2 planes each time, and 1 hadn't been TSA-checked, which would you take?
Lindead
https://www.heritage.org/transportation/commentary/heres-how-bad-the-tsa-failing-airport-security-its-time-privatization
khora
You can test that out at SFO. They don't have TSA agents.
thisismynamehere
No security checks at all? That's what I meant, I just used the term TSA to keep with the previous comment
khora
SFO is one of two(?) airports in the US with their own security instead of TSA.
Rinnosuke
He could even hollow out a bible and put a handgun in it, literally wrap it in thoughts and prayers.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Yeah but don't thoughts and prayers counter act bad deeds.
DarthSpongebob
Or a rockhamner
lLikeTurtles
Or in a violin case.
MrCannibal
Derangedwalrushorks
Marvelous
deathy11
Exactly my thought... Keeping the bible in the backpack long enough to getting everyone knowing you carry and some day hollow it out...
coolkidwestern
Well yeah but if someone’s going to put months of work into it not much is going to stop them
SirButcher
Luckily most of the shootings don't get planned - they mostly sudden decision. Many of them several day wait would make them disappear
SirButcher
This is why the "gun everywhere and you can get one in ten minutes" is a big problem
UlrikSvensgaard
You know, it’s almost like they force gun purchases to have a week long “cool down” period for a reason
McGreed
Doesn't even have to be a bible, could just hollow out several books, and glue them together, only going to see they are fake if moved.
Rinnosuke
but then it wouldn't be wrapped in thoughts and prayers.
McGreed
But it might be wrapped in science and knowledge instead.
Rinnosuke
technically the gun itself is that
NaturalProgressionGaming
Even worse... the shooter wasn't a current student at the school. So of course, lets force new regulation on the students to prevent this...
indiscriminateasshole
Kinda like the shooter wasnt legally allowed to have the guns AND it was a gun free zone, but hey, lets force new regulations on legal owner
neufala
Not that I agree with all gun legislation, but the current has clearly failed partly because of gun lobbys hobbling it at every front.
indiscriminateasshole
The legislation isnt where the failure resides. Its the enforcement.. What good are new laws when you dont enforce current laws
waitwasthatreal
They also do bag searches, mandatory ID lanyards, cops at ever entrance, and are trying to put up fencing and gates.
GreatBig
may I have sauce please?
Naternutts
All of which will do nothing to stop an armed intruder. Walk up to the gate with a gun under your jacket and shoot your way in. Asinine.
puddlewalker
And then nobody can really get out. Stuck in the pen
ImgurPlz
So... Prison. Neat.
ElPoloDiablo
That's fucked up.
BaggersNnanners
Where are they doing this?
Thradeau
The school that had the recent shooting
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MajorLeagueFister
Because as stated, it's security theater.
NZSheeps
That sounds like shooter talk! (Seriously though, how demoralizing would that be?)
Firstscout
Thinking the same thing.
MichaelHames
They already caught a couple students one tried shooting up a school but was shot by a resource officer the other had bond and got ratted1
MichaelHames
Out by their grand mother
IntergalacticElephant
The first one you mentioned, great mills, is where I'm from and it truly surprised me that it happened there.
Reviire
Seriously? I'm sitting here in Australia and schools are just, schools. No searches, no cops. Fences and gates are mostly for animals
iamagrocerybag
The high schools in the UK have tall fences to keep the kids in, not keep people out
ImNotAnOrange
My experience with UK schools and fences were more along the lines of being there to keep shit out of peoples yard or from hitting the house
ImNotAnOrange
because when there are two buildings separated by 2 roads and 3 rows of houses that you walk between for classes keeping you in is pointless
Reviire
Yeah, the only fences I've seen in AU around schools are child chest height. High enough to sit on as a 6 foot guy.
iamagrocerybag
Was there much bunking? We had all sorts of elaborate plans to get off the school grounds. By far the most effective was to change into
thewildplum
Not as dumb as the “each classroom will now be supplied with a bucket of rocks to throw at any attacker” idea.
Derangedwalrushorks
It should be a bucket of those large ball bearings and an arsenal of slingshots. The Bart Simpson protocol.
DirectorBright
That's somehow better than this idea. At least that has a CHANCE \to actually do something.
JHawke
I wanted to post a gif of bravehearts rock throwing scene but ye.. pinterest. Fuck pinterestlike sites.
thewildplum
Makes me think it must be a NRA funded idea since ANY idea (including outfitting every teacher with a gun) sounds great next to that one.
MichaelHames
Nope but I heard since then the school switched to guns because of all the ridicule
DrArbitrary
It was. It forced the discussion to be framed in terms of equipping teachers to defend classrooms, as if that's a reasonable place to start.
ThomasThundersword
that wasn't a real one was it? like rly?
Grillparzer
It was. People are desperate to find a solution.
ThomasThundersword
oh ffs. if your going to arm teachers do it right or not at all, rocks are just... so stupid. wait, is the rock lobby pitching this shit?
cheezeweazel
Yes. http://time.com/5213930/pennsylvania-school-rocks-school-shooting/
ThomasThundersword
But hey, maybe a few rocks will!
ThomasThundersword
i hate people. also, $100 says the people supporting this are the same ppl saying a hand gun won't stop someone with an AR.