No a few scenes before where he scooches the table across the floor and it squeaks and scratches making noise all the way across. It's just incredibly classic slap stick that is unsurpassed.
Pulling that chair across the floor with that godawful squeak, like nails on a chalkboard, to take his written more comfortably. He goes, You wanna get down on this?
I heard there was a cut scene where Jay actually aced the exam because he was completely right about the target range and moving the table to make writing the test easier showed he was willing to think outside of the box to better complete his tasks.
Most misunderstood scene, immediately after Rip Torn asks Tommy Lee if he sure, and K says that he managed to ourrun a alien - Wills antics didmt win him any points
Except the line right before that is Zed saying “He’s got a real problem with authority, doesn’t he?” And he still trusts Kay with the hire, meaning he clearly agrees with his judgment, and Kay argues on his behalf, meaning he clearly performed better than the other applicants. Remember: Kay is looking for his replacement, and he gave up his entire life to work with the MIB. He’s not going to hire some jackass he doesn’t feel is a good fit.
If K has to argue on his behalf how he is also better than the other applicants?? It certainly shows us the audience that Will is better (e.g. thinks differently and stands out) but I believe the point is in text if Kay wasn't keen on him then there is no way Will passed the tests
Imagine actually hating MiB 2&3. They were so damn good, especially 2. It had some great callbacks to the original, and Johnny Knoxville's character stole the show.
Next you're going to try to tell me that you don't like Home Alone 2, either.
I watched 3 at a really shady cinema and there were just four of us in the hall. The one guy running the place also was the one who sold us tickets, and he just cut out a big chunk in the middle because it was mostly talk and no action and he thought it was boring. Unhinged. For years I thought the movie was just super weird, until I streamed it and it actually made sense.
3 was just a meme. An excuse to cast current famed actors into an "iconic" franchise. Except it was not a franchise. It was not like you were going to McDonald's to get a revamped MIB Happy Meal toy... 15 years after the previous movie.
It was a fine example of flailing Hollywood struggling to pump out something that would snag revenue. I said flailing, not failing. But who knows, maybe it is also failing. I don't know.
You thought MIB 2 was better than 3? I never saw "International", but I've heard it's by far the worst of the bunch. And IMO Matrix 2 and 3 are a fantastic 2-3 hour movie spread across 4+ hours.
I hated the overabundance of CGI that looked terrible, following a film that pulled off some amazing practical effects shots. Same reason I disliked the recent Hobbit series.
Alien - atmospheric and tense thriller set in an original sci-fi setting with a lovely pinch of intrigue. Aliens - generic action shooter that happens to be set in space.
I agree with both this scene and @OP, they're a tie for me. One for showing how intelligent J is, and the other for showing how wise K is. One of the best buddy cop movies ever IMHO.
Yeah, but totally wrong about the flat earth thing. Columbus didn't discover the Earth is round, that was done almost 2,000 years before him. All he did was miscalculate the size to make the crossing to Asia seem possible. EVERYONE who thought about such things and read books knew the Earth was round 500 years ago. In fact there are undoubtedly more flat earthers today than there were then.
Come on dude, don't play semantics. It is obvious from context that what everyone means is that the earth is a sphere. When people say the earth is round, they don't mean its a disc. Is it more grammatically correct to say sphere? Yes. Does that matter? Not really. Language is not always about being grammatically correct, context matters.
I mean, I'm not going to take everything everyone says at full face value. I give some leeway for not being 100% accurate as long as the larger point doesn't demand it and it isn't an intentional or extreme falsehood.
Maybe Eratosthenes tried to prove this some 4,200 years ago in Egypt and Sagan tried the same roughly 40 years ago in the Western world, but still… education can always help to break down stories of the past and write new histories for the future
Eratosthenes was about 2200 years ago. But he was the head librarian at the Great Library in Alexandria, and it is very probable that he found a record of the test having been done, and was, himself, recreating it (as Sagan would do much later on).
As far as I know, the evidence is circumstantial, but relies on both his access to the Library, and the fact that the measurements, as they were described, were not accurate to Eratosthenes time but an earlier era (changed due to axial precession).
The entire point of this test was to detect if someone was capable of challenging their instincts when presented with something not what it seems. All those army guys who shot the aliens and not the girl get neuralyzed after this. Jay is, in essence, the only one who got the test right.
The entire point was that it's a dumb comedy bit. Shooting a girl holding books is stupid and everyone knows it, but when they all go "yeah good job" it's funny because our expectation of rationality got subverted. Acting like it's really this thoughtful test and oh my did it ever reveal something about this deep character is buffoonish.
And since the job is all about policing and PROTECTING the Aliens that are legally allowed on Earth, it's important to have police that won't automatically shoot them in a confusing situation.
It's like if American police went through a screening test at a live fire range where the various minorities¹ were all innocent bystanders (that black teenager had a phone in his hand) and it turned out the white guy target was a domestic terrorist.
¹And a blonde Australian woman yoga instructor....
Hekatombe
CanITroubleYouForAWarmGlassOfSHUTTHEHELLUP
...it was a good shot though, right?
Raecracy123abc
No a few scenes before where he scooches the table across the floor and it squeaks and scratches making noise all the way across. It's just incredibly classic slap stick that is unsurpassed.
jlcurtiss
Or, do I owe little Tiffany an apology?
Iblamemyparentstoo
Fuck will smith
IronDruid
P Diddy did
SavageMyStarAnise
Pulling that chair across the floor with that godawful squeak, like nails on a chalkboard, to take his written more comfortably. He goes, You wanna get down on this?
Audasity
i mean, as long as youre not planning on hosting an intergalactic kegger
baldpope
eh, Zed...
YoureGonnaNeedABodyBag
"I'd appreciate it if you'd ease up off my ass about it."
Imadudefromokc
3Davideo
Xenophobia test disguised as an accuracy test, just like the lateral-thinking test disguised as a scholastic test.
jayman0123
@op there is software far easier to use than a video screen ripper to get videos from youtube. try https://www.4kdownload.com/-54
kimberlyalajmi
This is my Absolute favorite scene!! I'm so glad someone else thinks so, too!
TheRicM
R.I.P. Rip Torn, what a great actor and great name
scottad
My ex-wife was in a movie with him, and he was apparently drunk the whole time.
DaveSamsonite
He was known for that
TheRicM
I didn't know that, thanks for the information
LuIu
That...yeah, that tracks.
InHarmsWay
I heard there was a cut scene where Jay actually aced the exam because he was completely right about the target range and moving the table to make writing the test easier showed he was willing to think outside of the box to better complete his tasks.
Feralkyn
I always assumed that was the conclusion anyway! So not sure the scene is needed, but woulda been cool to see
toyrobot
I think the scenes with David Cross in the second movie are amazing.
IronDruid
What second movie?
gsmdo
If you can dodge a wrench…
IronDruid
I'm saying when the time comes you wont need to
deicider78
CoastalDuck
Fuck that sneaky lil beotch, Tiffany.
RenaissanceFaireMan
So she's a very smart 8 year old...
AranaDiscoteca
A very smart 8-year-old understands algebra.
moaihead
you left off the best part, "or do I got to apologize to little Tiffany here"
TheWorldIsATollFreeToilet
Where are the walking edgar gifs in the comments???
otish
Can't see this scene the same ever since I watched the pitch meeting about this movie
Coerulea
“Or do I owe Miss Tiffany an apology?”
WoodORama
Always shoot the Balchinian.
MelodyLightfoot
OnFridaysWeWearBeskar
Best scene?
Start at the opening credits.. then to the closing credits. It's all one scene and it's perfect.
TeDmund
Most misunderstood scene, immediately after Rip Torn asks Tommy Lee if he sure, and K says that he managed to ourrun a alien - Wills antics didmt win him any points
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Except the line right before that is Zed saying “He’s got a real problem with authority, doesn’t he?” And he still trusts Kay with the hire, meaning he clearly agrees with his judgment, and Kay argues on his behalf, meaning he clearly performed better than the other applicants. Remember: Kay is looking for his replacement, and he gave up his entire life to work with the MIB. He’s not going to hire some jackass he doesn’t feel is a good fit.
TeDmund
If K has to argue on his behalf how he is also better than the other applicants?? It certainly shows us the audience that Will is better (e.g. thinks differently and stands out) but I believe the point is in text if Kay wasn't keen on him then there is no way Will passed the tests
mike13815
Real threat here is the folks that don't know how video files work and just screen record things instead.
GenshiV
I'm really glad they never made any sequels because this movie was awesome and they would have just fucked it up if they tried again.
doobiero
Give em a minute
PotOfJam
Eh, the third was good, Josh Brolin did a really good young Tommy Lee Jones
MechKelly
2 was good and 3 was ok. The reboot though. Thor, Valkyrie, and Liam freaking Neeson. It should have been amazing. But alas.
yertIe
Hi! I'm Johnny Knoxville, and welcome to MIB.
Badgerbadgerson3
Except they did make sequels, and they were both great. Glad there wasn't a reboot, though.
Samja192
Oh you're tempting fate here.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Will Smith acting like Will Smith. His movies are shit. He tries to act thug. He is so fake.
anonymous
Imagine actually hating MiB 2&3. They were so damn good, especially 2. It had some great callbacks to the original, and Johnny Knoxville's character stole the show.
Next you're going to try to tell me that you don't like Home Alone 2, either.
Sigge1981
Rosario Dawson, though. And Lara Flynn Boyle
nonickname23
Talented actresses. Glad they weren't in any attempt at a sequel.
ZeroLyfe
RichardPotato
Oya
Midgarmerc
I've always heard the 2nd was disappointing but the 3rd was quite good. Luckily they never made another.
whadyameanthatnamestaken
I really liked Fast & Furious. (chef’s kiss)
I sure am glad they stopped there.
FacelessAce
I actually liked the not-sequels that didn't happen. I'm probably in the minority, but still.
kittyclawz
There are dozens of us!
battery1979
All hail J, All hail J, Ooooh J, can you seeeeee.
ShadeMeadowsArt
Aside from M.I.B 2, I loved all other MIB movies~
anonymous
What don't you like about MiB 2? It's better than the original!
ShadeMeadowsArt
I like a lot of the designs!
MIB's aliens are awesome!
Ninjainslippers
Yep, they really nailed it, just like the simpsons ending on season 10.
Ultratoxic
Oh hush, they weren't that bad.
GenshiV
They weren't, but it's always a fun joke to make when the first movie is the best of the bunch!
apneax3n0n
3 has ita moments. The Stolen car above all
ArchMagos
I love the movies, and cartoon, but it fucked me up when I realized they aren't space cops, or space CIA or Space FBI. They're Space ICE.
RevolutionOnHerLips
I love when it rains because Rosario Dawson is sad!
delecti
Hey now, 2 wasn't terrible, and 3 was quite good. Neither as good as the original, but still entertaining enough.
ckmnstr
I watched 3 at a really shady cinema and there were just four of us in the hall. The one guy running the place also was the one who sold us tickets, and he just cut out a big chunk in the middle because it was mostly talk and no action and he thought it was boring. Unhinged. For years I thought the movie was just super weird, until I streamed it and it actually made sense.
pianostacatto
3 was just a meme. An excuse to cast current famed actors into an "iconic" franchise. Except it was not a franchise. It was not like you were going to McDonald's to get a revamped MIB Happy Meal toy... 15 years after the previous movie.
It was a fine example of flailing Hollywood struggling to pump out something that would snag revenue. I said flailing, not failing. But who knows, maybe it is also failing. I don't know.
ShiieetttttPedddrrrooooo
You're probably thinking MIB international, not MIB 3
jammer909
Matrix 2 was terrible. 3 has half-good; specifically the half without Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity.
The first 2 MIB movies were good. Let's forget any more exist.
delecti
You thought MIB 2 was better than 3? I never saw "International", but I've heard it's by far the worst of the bunch.
And IMO Matrix 2 and 3 are a fantastic 2-3 hour movie spread across 4+ hours.
NCPBullet
2 was terrible. 3 was good though
apneax3n0n
You think i stole this car?
tazedconfused
I hate the fact I paid money to see that movie in theatre.
NotACanadian
I liked 3.
Tkm1999
3 was really good. Just weird that they called it three and never made a two.
MuchSwagManyDank
Ok, #2 wasnt a terrible movie. It's a better sequel than most
Hangonthere
I liked them #shrug#
Meltemi
Oh? They did make a sequel. It just wasn't a movie.
kojenk
Everything the sequel should have been. She was great in the show too
IronDruid
That was a really good show
Kazooski
Awesome show.
mrputter
Huh. How did I manage to completely miss the existence of this?
mikeatike
It was good. But probably cost too much to animate this well, so it didn't last long.
FriendlyNeighborhoodGrammarPerson
I remember really liking this show but it's as if any and all plot was neuralized right out of my brain.
Clayman8
This and the Godzilla show were two shows where the animation/visual style was insanely cool
TheflyPrince
It's all on YouTube last time I checked.
Pseudosim
Wait wut.
Clayman8
Cartoon show, back from the late 90s iirc. Short lived but super cool
sme2812
Just like The Matrix, another perfect sequel-less movie.
geekykeycap
https://xkcd.com/566/
hangalefthalfpastnowhere
There's always an xkcd.
Zeboku
I like all the matrix movies, I don't understand the hate 😢
MageEpic
I hated the overabundance of CGI that looked terrible, following a film that pulled off some amazing practical effects shots. Same reason I disliked the recent Hobbit series.
Zeboku
I don't think the CGI in the matrix sequels were that bad, but I'm 100% with you on the Hobbit
EdmundandHarald365
And Alien. And Jaws.
BORGALOOGIE
What about Terminator?
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
Another like Alien & Aliens. I thought Terminator 2 was great… *shrug*
bridgebrain
Aliens gets a pass, because it's the same movie in a different genre. The rest don't exist though
EdmundandHarald365
Aliens is just generic action that happens to be set in space. It's quite dull, like the vast majority of James Cameron's films.
kojenk
It only seems that way because it was novel at the time and then everyone aftwards forever copied it's elements and formulas
Aesonique
And Highlander.
sturm24
Mmmm..Aliens 2 was kinda cool.
EdmundandHarald365
Alien - atmospheric and tense thriller set in an original sci-fi setting with a lovely pinch of intrigue.
Aliens - generic action shooter that happens to be set in space.
Phazoner
Man you got a chance to stop being wrong.
Btw for whoever reads this, Romulus is good too, not Alien or Aliens good, but IMHO easy third place.
BORGALOOGIE
Respectfully disagree; I appreciate this one and the sentiment involved.
Rubyrose99
I agree with both this scene and @OP, they're a tie for me. One for showing how intelligent J is, and the other for showing how wise K is. One of the best buddy cop movies ever IMHO.
AnonsAndMinions
I just wish I didn't have live evidence every fucking day that he was pure wisdom on the first bit.
CelestialSea
Yeah, but totally wrong about the flat earth thing. Columbus didn't discover the Earth is round, that was done almost 2,000 years before him. All he did was miscalculate the size to make the crossing to Asia seem possible. EVERYONE who thought about such things and read books knew the Earth was round 500 years ago. In fact there are undoubtedly more flat earthers today than there were then.
Heavenissize17socks
(this one IS the first one!)
& MIB3 -slapped!
AstarothMagus
To be fair, most of humanity has known the earth is not flat for far longer than 500 years.
CelestialSea
People recognized it almost 2,500 years ago, possibly earlier.
Dannyalcatraz
It’s a nice echo of Gene Wilder’s speech in Blazing Saddles.
BORGALOOGIE
What did you expect?
ClockworkRepairDroid
Mary, my daughter? You got to remember these are simple town folk. You know.
seitanicverses
Morons!
NappaTheFriendlyGhost
The person is smart people are dumb part is something I've been quoting since I was a kid. It is pure wisdom.
KrondorMocker
Trump / Brexit spring to mind
Wolfshead009
Except the middle one isn't true. Plenty of people knew that the world was round and some even had a pretty good idea of the size.
BadderBob
Round and flat are not mutually exclusive.
AstarothMagus
Come on dude, don't play semantics. It is obvious from context that what everyone means is that the earth is a sphere. When people say the earth is round, they don't mean its a disc. Is it more grammatically correct to say sphere? Yes. Does that matter? Not really. Language is not always about being grammatically correct, context matters.
BadderBob
It does when you are on the spectrum. #JustAspieThings
KlatnYelox
The historical accuracy of the claim is irrelevant to the analogy, given the plethora of things that people "knew" 5000 years ago.
Like, knowing that illness is caused by Bad Air just doesn't flow off the tongue as well as "the earth was flat"
fluffMlemGod
Refer back to “a person is smart. People are stupid”
heyimjephph
Yeah, seems wolfshead009 completely missed the point
idiotsonfire
Eratosthenes discovered the circumference of the earth within a 1% margin of error, I believe.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
There's still people that "know" the world is flat.
Wolfshead009
Sadly, all too true. :(
Badprenup
I mean, I'm not going to take everything everyone says at full face value. I give some leeway for not being 100% accurate as long as the larger point doesn't demand it and it isn't an intentional or extreme falsehood.
BORGALOOGIE
Maybe Eratosthenes tried to prove this some 4,200 years ago in Egypt and Sagan tried the same roughly 40 years ago in the Western world, but still… education can always help to break down stories of the past and write new histories for the future
DukeDarkwood
Eratosthenes was about 2200 years ago. But he was the head librarian at the Great Library in Alexandria, and it is very probable that he found a record of the test having been done, and was, himself, recreating it (as Sagan would do much later on).
As far as I know, the evidence is circumstantial, but relies on both his access to the Library, and the fact that the measurements, as they were described, were not accurate to Eratosthenes time but an earlier era (changed due to axial precession).
BORGALOOGIE
This sounds like witchcraft buggery to me… BURN HIM!
HandoB4Javert
"People that make it acceptable"
sabrinadiesatdawn
It is entirely possible that, in the last 5000 years, right now is the time in which the most people believe the world is flat.
Wolfos
How else would it fit on the turtle?
LivingDeadX
Respectfully disagree. It just that what flat-Earthers there are out there have found the internet, and then they made themselves everyone’s problem.
Joedog624
Percent of people, no. Overall number of people, plausible.
amb1021
There are way more people now than 5000 years ago, so in pure numbers this could totally be correct.
Clockworkdancerobot
More forethought and situational awareness than any regular police officer.
freakdiablo
When everything is nuts, the normal becomes abnormal.
squirreltactics
That's the test...
UserNameCorrupted
That’s why no one asked questions when he left the force unexpectedly.
gablestout
Or does he owe her an apology?
LooseyGooseyBrett
But he shot the little girl.
blainetog
Those books were way too advanced for her. Something funky was going on.
gablestout
She was up to something, @LooseyGooseyBrett, and to be honest I'd appreciate it if you'd ease up off his back about it.
GratingBobShrillPants
Or do I owe her an apology?
UnattendedDeviant
She wasn't what she seemed...is the lesson here, I think.
gablestout
Or does he owe her an apology?
UnattendedDeviant
Naah. He was right. That's why he got the job.
Clockworkdancerobot
In Cryptid terms they are usually called skinwalkers. the girl that skin belonged to is long dead.
laserfork
In human terms she's called precocious; the girl that skin belonged to was just shot.
SunBrolem
The entire point of this test was to detect if someone was capable of challenging their instincts when presented with something not what it seems. All those army guys who shot the aliens and not the girl get neuralyzed after this. Jay is, in essence, the only one who got the test right.
laserfork
The entire point was that it's a dumb comedy bit. Shooting a girl holding books is stupid and everyone knows it, but when they all go "yeah good job" it's funny because our expectation of rationality got subverted. Acting like it's really this thoughtful test and oh my did it ever reveal something about this deep character is buffoonish.
casbott
And since the job is all about policing and PROTECTING the Aliens that are legally allowed on Earth, it's important to have police that won't automatically shoot them in a confusing situation.
It's like if American police went through a screening test at a live fire range where the various minorities¹ were all innocent bystanders (that black teenager had a phone in his hand) and it turned out the white guy target was a domestic terrorist.
¹And a blonde Australian woman yoga instructor....