Jul 8, 2018 12:51 AM
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CiraEssera
I wish I knew this in college...
Evenlymade
Misunderstand? You mean are completely mislead by?
DeltaBladeX
It was posted only an hour earlier. I don't even need to scroll to see it again. -_-
Arizoniac
I find many articles on Google Scholar for free as well
RealScienceMan
Math, physics and chemistry usually end up on ww.arxiv.org
HOLAKOOO
and even harder to 'google' if the authors don't use google+ ... Why I don't use google..
Vilgashem
H... holy shit. This may legitimately change lives. It will likely change mine.
Calicoastin818
IT professional here, turning off and turning it back on solves about 90% of problems Also you wanna do this before you begin troubleshootin
Anthemius
Another thing you provably didn't know, we scientists don't usually use our Dr title.
TateMars
Scihub ????
floyd007
.ooo
Nyquilforsleepytime
That's actually very useful to know!
TwoHookersAndAnEightball
sci-hub.tw
FrogLover69
That is still small price in comparison how much are authors supposed to pay for publication...
fantasticlight
Well it is very uncommon for individuals to be subscribing to journals in the first place. They're going to be placed in libraries.
It's really rare for laymen to be reading science papers.
zampano
Not the kind of 'research' common here, but Def welcome
HULKSMASHMOUTH
So a little Social Engineering could have averted the lonely death of Aaron Schwartz? Repost for life.
katienicole007
Also, your local library might have a subscription to different scientific databases/journals and you can read them for free.
Peterowski
If they have a good budget and demand for it (well managed uni libraries), yes. My uni cancelled their subscriptions last year.
sammygold
Maybe not a public library, but if you have access to a Uni library then Yes.
Daniferd
If I can pirate music, games, or movies then there is nothing to stop me from pirating them research papers
TANEY500
But, nobody is paying $35 to read those articles
causality
Sci-Hub
Iusethewrongyourandthereintentionally
There are some new scientific journals that are crowdsourced that are trying to change that but yep thwts true
ThatGuyFromThePlaceWithTheThing
Exercise caution with some of those, make sure they are doing the correct peer review. Ran into more than a few that share bunk science.
No I forgot what the name was but they basically just got tired of how the people where double paying for info with tax money then fees
Th1ng
There is sort of a pirate Bay for scientific papers too btw
AlexanderBlackX
lenonymes
Yeah I don't think anyone in the general public is paying $35 to access scientific journals.
MousseCakePie
*a single article in a journal
Softcreamybeige
If you are any type of university student. Use the ILL. Some public libraries even have it. I have requested 100s of articles over the years
BossPat
And how does one acquire said scientists emails?
MyRabbitIsAVegan
Most are affiliated with a university and their email will be in the directory.
ObliqueRay
And why isn't there a competing service that serves them for cents or even free with ads? I mean how much bandwidth are you burning on these
undercoverles
There are actually a lot of competing services, but it boils down to the institution that the researchers are affiliated with. If they
Do not work as part of an institution, then it is a deal harder. However, there are still a number of green open access peer reviewed
Journals and publications out there! Source: this is literally my job.
thetundra
This isn’t true for a lot of journals. They actually have the authors sign a form so the rights are signed to the journal.
Yeah, most major journals don't allow you to distribute the final typeset and formatted version. Raw author proofs usually okay though.
InsertAGoodNameHere
Perhaps they should publish to better sites that accommodate both the write and the reader (instead of only themselves)
travis373
1- Your work is judged on the journal's "impact". High impact journal's cost money. Open source journal's are considered not reputable
2- it's a total scam. Partly it's because the "reputable journal's" get good people to do peer review. But peer review often ends up being
3- one reviewer finding a way to stop your publication so they can get their own published. Or making you reference some of their work
4- to bump their own stats. Really open source journal's should be the way. But until current science let's go of the idea of a
5/5 - reputable journal its not going to happen.
NeonArlecchino
I anticipate making some scientists very happy by asking for their papers...
Barkinsons
Problem is they usually take 2 weeks to respond, so it's pretty difficult to do literature research that way. Better use a uni library
ScienceDisneyandBunnys
Very true I emailed one asking a question about his paper. He emailed back straight away then wouldn’t stop talking to me!
TheEvenPrez
Makes sense. People like the feeling of their work being validated.
then very sad by forgetting to read it and getting an email asking what I thought.
RenegadeSci
Nah, we want someone to write about what we write. Citations matter.
OmegaKamidake
"uhh it was good?" While sweating profusely
NZSheeps
"I ... ummm ... like the bit about the Nucleotides?" / "It was a geology paper."
modicumjones
"what was your favorite part?"
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
“I found your analysis of the deviations between Miller and Carnigee et al in respect to academic norms fascinating” “it was a paper on cars
Muttons1337
"I mean, it was allllll so good. How do you even pick a favorite part? Righhht?"
QTpatoot
"I uh, liked the conclusion. Yes."
LetsHaveReasonPeople
Or realizing that my soft "science" degree(accounting) is woefully inadequate to give quality feedback in a field that's cool, but 1/
One in which I am too far removed, that the subject requires such a commitment in time to grasp the basics, that I know I now out 2/
Am now out of my league. Carry on your expertise, everyone, and know you're appreciated for it, at least by some of us.
JacenHorn
Authors still don't get money...
Impignorate
The authors get paid to do the research. So they still get paid.
Yea, but you're not paying another company for our work. I'm paid a salary by the department of energy to produce that paper.
FuzzySchemes
But the knowledge gets out, which most researchers want. I got an article published last year and it would have cost me and my co-author 1/
upwards of $5000 to make it open-source. We don't have that kind of money. I'd have loved to pay it if I had it just so it would be 2/
accessible to the people who would find it useful. 3/3
worldling
I work with someone who has done research in his previous job with good data that wasn’t published, and I find that very sad :(
The academic and publication game is a bitch. That sucks for your coworker.
CiraEssera
I wish I knew this in college...
Evenlymade
Misunderstand? You mean are completely mislead by?
DeltaBladeX
It was posted only an hour earlier. I don't even need to scroll to see it again. -_-
Arizoniac
I find many articles on Google Scholar for free as well
RealScienceMan
Math, physics and chemistry usually end up on ww.arxiv.org
HOLAKOOO
and even harder to 'google' if the authors don't use google+ ... Why I don't use google..
Vilgashem
H... holy shit. This may legitimately change lives. It will likely change mine.
Calicoastin818
IT professional here, turning off and turning it back on solves about 90% of problems Also you wanna do this before you begin troubleshootin
Anthemius
Another thing you provably didn't know, we scientists don't usually use our Dr title.
TateMars
Scihub ????
floyd007
.ooo
Nyquilforsleepytime
That's actually very useful to know!
TwoHookersAndAnEightball
sci-hub.tw
FrogLover69
That is still small price in comparison how much are authors supposed to pay for publication...
fantasticlight
Well it is very uncommon for individuals to be subscribing to journals in the first place. They're going to be placed in libraries.
fantasticlight
It's really rare for laymen to be reading science papers.
zampano
Not the kind of 'research' common here, but Def welcome
HULKSMASHMOUTH
So a little Social Engineering could have averted the lonely death of Aaron Schwartz? Repost for life.
katienicole007
Also, your local library might have a subscription to different scientific databases/journals and you can read them for free.
Peterowski
If they have a good budget and demand for it (well managed uni libraries), yes. My uni cancelled their subscriptions last year.
sammygold
Maybe not a public library, but if you have access to a Uni library then Yes.
Daniferd
If I can pirate music, games, or movies then there is nothing to stop me from pirating them research papers
TANEY500
But, nobody is paying $35 to read those articles
causality
Sci-Hub
Iusethewrongyourandthereintentionally
There are some new scientific journals that are crowdsourced that are trying to change that but yep thwts true
ThatGuyFromThePlaceWithTheThing
Exercise caution with some of those, make sure they are doing the correct peer review. Ran into more than a few that share bunk science.
Iusethewrongyourandthereintentionally
No I forgot what the name was but they basically just got tired of how the people where double paying for info with tax money then fees
Th1ng
There is sort of a pirate Bay for scientific papers too btw
AlexanderBlackX
lenonymes
Yeah I don't think anyone in the general public is paying $35 to access scientific journals.
MousseCakePie
*a single article in a journal
Softcreamybeige
If you are any type of university student. Use the ILL. Some public libraries even have it. I have requested 100s of articles over the years
BossPat
And how does one acquire said scientists emails?
MyRabbitIsAVegan
Most are affiliated with a university and their email will be in the directory.
ObliqueRay
And why isn't there a competing service that serves them for cents or even free with ads? I mean how much bandwidth are you burning on these
undercoverles
There are actually a lot of competing services, but it boils down to the institution that the researchers are affiliated with. If they
undercoverles
Do not work as part of an institution, then it is a deal harder. However, there are still a number of green open access peer reviewed
undercoverles
Journals and publications out there! Source: this is literally my job.
thetundra
This isn’t true for a lot of journals. They actually have the authors sign a form so the rights are signed to the journal.
TwoHookersAndAnEightball
Yeah, most major journals don't allow you to distribute the final typeset and formatted version. Raw author proofs usually okay though.
InsertAGoodNameHere
Perhaps they should publish to better sites that accommodate both the write and the reader (instead of only themselves)
travis373
1- Your work is judged on the journal's "impact". High impact journal's cost money. Open source journal's are considered not reputable
travis373
2- it's a total scam. Partly it's because the "reputable journal's" get good people to do peer review. But peer review often ends up being
travis373
3- one reviewer finding a way to stop your publication so they can get their own published. Or making you reference some of their work
travis373
4- to bump their own stats. Really open source journal's should be the way. But until current science let's go of the idea of a
travis373
5/5 - reputable journal its not going to happen.
NeonArlecchino
I anticipate making some scientists very happy by asking for their papers...
Barkinsons
Problem is they usually take 2 weeks to respond, so it's pretty difficult to do literature research that way. Better use a uni library
ScienceDisneyandBunnys
Very true I emailed one asking a question about his paper. He emailed back straight away then wouldn’t stop talking to me!
TheEvenPrez
Makes sense. People like the feeling of their work being validated.
NeonArlecchino
then very sad by forgetting to read it and getting an email asking what I thought.
RenegadeSci
Nah, we want someone to write about what we write. Citations matter.
OmegaKamidake
"uhh it was good?" While sweating profusely
NZSheeps
"I ... ummm ... like the bit about the Nucleotides?" / "It was a geology paper."
modicumjones
"what was your favorite part?"
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
“I found your analysis of the deviations between Miller and Carnigee et al in respect to academic norms fascinating” “it was a paper on cars
Muttons1337
"I mean, it was allllll so good. How do you even pick a favorite part? Righhht?"
QTpatoot
"I uh, liked the conclusion. Yes."
LetsHaveReasonPeople
Or realizing that my soft "science" degree(accounting) is woefully inadequate to give quality feedback in a field that's cool, but 1/
LetsHaveReasonPeople
One in which I am too far removed, that the subject requires such a commitment in time to grasp the basics, that I know I now out 2/
LetsHaveReasonPeople
Am now out of my league. Carry on your expertise, everyone, and know you're appreciated for it, at least by some of us.
JacenHorn
Authors still don't get money...
Impignorate
The authors get paid to do the research. So they still get paid.
RealScienceMan
Yea, but you're not paying another company for our work. I'm paid a salary by the department of energy to produce that paper.
FuzzySchemes
But the knowledge gets out, which most researchers want. I got an article published last year and it would have cost me and my co-author 1/
FuzzySchemes
upwards of $5000 to make it open-source. We don't have that kind of money. I'd have loved to pay it if I had it just so it would be 2/
FuzzySchemes
accessible to the people who would find it useful. 3/3
worldling
I work with someone who has done research in his previous job with good data that wasn’t published, and I find that very sad :(
FuzzySchemes
The academic and publication game is a bitch. That sucks for your coworker.