Jul 9, 2020 6:25 PM
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CaptSchmidtGaming
this is a really terrible post. because we all know policy is how you help the poor, not spare change.
thechelonianshelmet
I'd pay more in tax for reliable help for those in need, because I've seen scammers in action,& watched charities waste incredible amounts.
dustpuma1
Virtue Signaling, It frustrates me to see the famous use it all the time for attention. Help ppl...well i'm not because X but u should!
jwillywill
Textinabox
You need to offer a plan to action. Most people have a hard time helping even themselves without small, easy to follow steps.
Bugdaze
Brilliant
epoke
Being offended is easy, free, and has a chance of providing a self-righteous high in the process. Giving money is a sacrifice.
thatsbadmmkay
Its because theyre all living paycheck to paycheck. And once they find financial stability, they cling to it.
sverebom
I don't give money to people on the streets. I give money to organizations that help people in need to get to a point where they don't /1
need help anymore. According to this stunt Is be a selfish hypocrite despite everything I give to people on need. /end
MissIWasntItching
Unless he's literally asking for people to fuck the poor with him; One is a statement, and the other is a request. Apples and oranges.
DewiMorgan
More: a well-printed sign is an AD, not a request. If it'd been real, he'd most likely be trying to sign people up for monthly donations.
LoverInTheRain
Yea no shit. What is spare change going to do and being given to random guy wearing a sign. Wouldn't give him 1% of attention on either sign
Rkfinecake
Typical shaming. People are charitable. They give to charities and many like me hardly ever give to panhandlers.
I've been fooled more than once into helping someone buy drugs with the money I gave them.
Safebox36
Here's the vid: https://youtu.be/eBuC_0-d-9Y
GhostdogBlues
Another oversimplified, edited "experiment". Not giving a person money on the street does not equal "not actually doing anything about it".
NinjaClyde
superjeenyus
This seems like it belongs here: https://youtu.be/YcLAJbvwNQU
GroovyCrowley
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KanzenChowa
He should flip one side to help and the other to fuck and really mess with people
kijocosp2
I give, I swear I do but I’m not gonna give a random guy with a sign any money. I’d ask which charity he’s collecting for and give there.
Not even give give there: I research my charities before giving. Why should a street sign change my research?
Agree!
IIINanuqIII
The people that hold power can make meaningful policy changes to help the poor in a significant way. Most people are just trying to get by.
Dionysus187
Man learns poor people get upset when you say "Fuck the poor" and don't have enough to help other poor people. This post is dumb.
GrosseChung
(1) Citizens can’t help homeless people by giving them money on the street. They can help by voting for laws that would provide
(2) housing and food for those who can’t afford it, as well as the opportunity to get a job with a living wage.
LuckyMacchiato
Not to be an asshole, why not both? Those are long term solutions to work towards but we need 'boots on the ground' to help now, yes?
Even if it helped to give beggars cash, sign-guy here clearly doesn't need help: he's just pushing an agenda. A deliberately bad experiment.
NonnieNic
To be fair, it’s not always the best idea to give money to anybody walking around with a sign, bucket or boot.
MrTay
This is not hypocrisy unless your looking for it. You see things too black and white. I would have the same reaction as the other people 1/
I’m not going to confront someone with help the poor. I’m also going to give my money to places I know the poor will get help not anyone 2/
Who says they are helping the poor. It’s not about not being willing to help it’s that charity money is misappropriated constantly.
xKaraKx
This. Id rather donate 5 bucks in change to a soup kitchen than some random dude on the street.... if i give anything its food or clothes
NOT money
FrancisFulloffrenchpeople
Legalize prostitution and you could do two birds at once.
ravenfool
I guess if you're into that; not sure the birds will last very long though.
I see what you did there.
Both of them.
Strawbuddy
Grumbleswhisperer
This is stupid... I don't have money to help other poor people, I'm poor. We're all poor now, of course fuck the poor is gonna get reactions
Like my government isn't transparently fucking robbing us blind... rich fuckers ignoring us and taking taxpayer handouts.
KilroyLichking
Seeing this shit is like seeing a billion dollar company say"ya we're profiting while you poor fucks die, but see how hard it is to care?"
Like I should be guilty I feel anger about poverty because I'm not fixing it. Never mind the billionaires controlling everything.
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if you really want to have some fun check out this infographic https://xkcd.com/980/huge
atomiccheesegod
Very much akin to thanking a veteran for their service but ignoring veterans homelessness/suicide
AmActuallyACat
Or setting off fireworks that sound like bombs
Splinthar
"SUPPORT THE TROOPS" Screams politicians who send them to die in stupid wars and then appoint morons to run the VA. Oh and no funding.
25BravoLife
One day it will be my time just let it happen
IrishPub
Very much the mentality of "If it's not happening to me, it's not important".
Metalbawkses
Veteran here, can confirm
heygee
Maybe. But panhandling is not an example of how people care about the poor.
toptrojanfan
I deployed 7 times, spent over 5 years in the Middle East...I hate when people people say thqt because it's an empty platitude.
DemonFluffer1000
In Australia we are spending 500 million dollars upgrading a war memorial instead of providing support to returned servicemen/women ?.
vaporwavecatrave
What are you trying to say? That my thoughts and prayers wont feed, shelter, and help our nations veterans? /s
Skizzlesnap
Gotta wear a flag pin to make it count.
Justapartofyourimagination
I know this all too well.
ReallyRealDeal
The govt could easily take care of America's veterans if they didn't spend all the taxpayer money on an inflated military and BS wars.
hppyhppyhppy
Yup. When we’re gone it’s just a memory.
OnlyBones
Maybe they should talk to someone at the VA about getting help. Oh wait, the VA doesnt give a fuck.
NOYLL
What if we reduced our spending on military contractors and redirected that money towards better veteran care?
ActionJohnnie
Thots and players
MrJwinkyface
The Va is death trap for those of us forced to use it for heathcare
Geomon55
Rah, happens...
Rah
Plututoninium
Honestly if you proposed a law that changed the structure of the VA and increased taxes to even it out no itd be popular the system is broke
murlokotam
Not all poor are veterans. The difference here is "service".
NonZeroSumGame
100% this.
grandestgrandeur
But.. we threw them a parade, what do you mean they can't live on JUST a parade!? Ok how about a holiday that isn't even federal? /s
SSon1c
war is a thing of the past, what keeps fueling it is pure greed and disconsideration for human life.
sullw214
Hahaha, half of the world's populations leaders don't give a shit about human life. That'll change any day now... Greed too. Hold yr breath.
FlamingDeathGoat
Which is why I hate that empty lip service bullshit. 99% of the people that said it to my fact don't give a fuck
Watchkeeper
Oh the UK Govt set up "The Forces Covenent", to much fanfare. Companies sign up etc. Loads of bollocks and makes zero actual difference.
capillano
It’s a bit of a set up, if I saw a dude dressed in new clothes with a professional sign hmmm not giving spare change to him
techley
Meaningless platitudes. Like "thoughts and prayers"
Imhonestlypartying
Or allowing the public to be so poorly informed that the US gov uses the military in ways that causes PTSD and everything that goes with it
sjbrooksy7447
I'd like to thank them by not sending them to pointless wars
HenryLongfellowIII
That will just result in more advertising/propaganda spending to convince enough folks that the wars are not pointless.
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
I wish they didn't send us so many times. I stayed in until after we got UBL and thought it was over. That was over 9yrs ago & not in AFG.
PluckedDuck
Can't sell weapons if they're not being used up.
NobodyExpectsTheSpanishInquistion
I'd like people to stop thanking them for starting wars. By taking part in a war of aggression, they are complicit.
EllEzDee
I'd like people to stop thanking people for doing a job. A job that hasn't been relevant for almost a century. A job involving killing. Gr8!
In the good old days, people trained and fought so people like you weren't killed, your wives and children weren't taken as slaves. But hey.
"almost a century" GJ! In the good old days slavery was commonplace, common diseases were deadly, and basic education was only for the rich.
So what's changed since then?
This is the 21st century. This is the west. Nations are not won through conquest. Wars of self-preservation are not fought on battlefields.
obrover19413000
Vets have more physical and mental health services, than anyone in the country...90% on the street, have PTSD or drug & alcohol problems...1
...and will not seek services...sad...
What "services"?
Mack1986
A large portion of homeless are vets, but not a large portion of vets are homeless. Mental illness and substance abuse are still the most
YourLocalSatanist
A family friend of mine was injured in Afganistan. He lost his left leg from the knee down from an IED. The VA gave him a 40% disability.
The VA literally gives people a rating for how disabled you are. Which gives then a reason to not treat you as well as others.
The only people I've seen with an arbitrary 100% disability are high profile veterans that got injured.
papalongshlong
1/2 That’s just not true, the gov tries to cover as little as possible and say so many issues aren’t considered service related to avoid
2/3 spending money to help them. We saw it in 9/11 fire fighters not getting support and you can see it now in vets who get asked to go
5/5 homeless shelters. Housing First has actual evidence of working well, telling them to quit drugs then get a place doesn’t work.
4/5 And if we actually housed the homeless veterans, they’d have a safe space to quit any drugs without losing their shit like they would at
3/4 irradiated areas or work near burn pits where they breathe in toxic chemicals but the gov refuses to help pay for treatment.
aworkoffiction
$2 doesn’t go far to an individual. But if everyone in the country gave $2 a year in taxes we would have $600,000,000 for the poor.
joe40001
Or Zuckerberg/Bezos could just defer their pay for 1 hour and accomplish the same effect.
mbox
Bill Gates is spending his money trying to stop people from dieing of malaria in developing countries, more than the government is doing.
US taxes work more like: $600M for some contracting company, and $0 for the poor.
Yep, if you want to help the poor give money to one of many UBI pilot programs. Andrew Yang and others are working to do this.
UBI is the stupidest idea I have ever heard, a shallow way to make people reliant on the government.
There is a good amount of data supporting it, and it doesn't have to be through gov. Having extra money won't hurt the poor.
igivetheinternets
So donate to an org that advocates for giving more money away? Welfare with extra steps.
If tons of people are struggling to make ends meet, UBI helps those people,. and government won't do it. What's the problem with it?
Make living cheaper, relax the regs and make it easier for people to build affordable housing.
Housing regulations are designed to keep poor people out of nice areas. Towns only want mcmansions and millionaires living there.
Do you know how extremely illegal it is to build affordable housing in most places?
SarcasticComment
I don't make a habit of giving money to lunatics with signs.
secretdpp
I give based on entertainment of their sign. Or honesty
Shineupordown
yeah there is so many scams for once you dont know who to trust anymore..Like BLM scam where ppl donated thousands that went who knows where
KurtHamster
How about signs for lunatics with money?!
Goes into business selling MAGA
Heavenissize17socks
And don't get me started about aquatic tarts…
Handin' out swords that people think give em supreme executive authority and shot
SadEyedLadyoftheLowlands
When it comes to homeless people asking for help: Whether or not he is lying is on him. Whether or not you help is on you.
sciencebasedlifeform
Thepumpernickelpickle
Saw a woman begging outside my store with no shoes standing on the sidewalk. This is in Central CA where it’s 108 degrees. A woman stopped
And got out of her car took off her sandals, grabbed two bottles of water and handed it all to the woman who took them and looked very
Grateful The kind Samaritan left and the beggar walked around the building and threw everything in the bushes. She then walked to the other
Side of the street and started begging again. This woman was using the heat and being barefoot to garner sympathy and it was working.
Bush near the liquor store was littered with food since it was a popular begging spot. Addicts wanted cash only for alcohol.
IDidntDoIt
Yeah I really check my charities when I give money but usually I give things or time.
alternatereality543
I don't offer money. I offer food, water, a blanket. The real ones accept it graciously, the fakes tell me no thanks.
Socks. Especially up North. Clean warm socks. Worth more than gold.
Yup, I'm in Colorado
apbadogs
I never have either but what clinched for me was a couple who i passed on the freeway and recognized, laughing, all is good, well 1/2
VInTheSkyWithElephants
My ex-SIL quit her job to panhandle because she made more money doing it
RagingNorseman
How much did she make?
lowkeylives
I've heard you can make a few hundred a day if you get a good spot/sign. Probably not the norm, but better than minimum wage
WatcherInTheDark
Bout tree fiddy.
Dressed but saw them prior at a busy corner all disheveled begging for money. They ruined me. 2/2.
BodyAnimalBistro
Ruined for me when a homeless guy with a kindand sweet sign tried to force his way into my gf's car at a red light at night.
I don’t normally carry cash but I had a couple bucks on me once. Gave it to someone who asked and he followed me saying he needed more
Florida ruined me. I used to drive around with a pack of water bottles and wrapped snacks in my car for the homeless. They never wanted it
Goarath
I read a thing a while back saying the homeless people don't take food from strangers due to fear of what might actually be in the food.
I always had snacks that came in individual packaging but that's fair
bekind2joeblake
Honestly I wouldn’t give him money cause it looks like a scam. Who’s he with? So many “charities” are corrupt. Gotta be careful
LogicalFallacyMan
I think even if it was a real well known charity this would still be the case unfortunately.
Also the idea here is most people never approached to even ask about the charity
Sinmiedo1931
Yeah,like the UHO https://nypost.com/2010/06/24/judge-rules-to-permanently-shut-down-faux-homeless-charity-but-hucksters-still-out-in-force/
Used to see them in NYC all the time, then I looked them up and realized it was a total scam job. I was so heated.
llGreenll
The human fund, money for people
And that’s as specific as I can make it
bigsteve31sk8
Like the Trump foundation for instance lol.
Kittynomnoms
This is why I don't give people money on the street or to stores asking for donations. I'd rather do my own research and donate what I 1/2
can. Especially when they say "can you help the children??" Which children? What am I helping with? Such a manipulative phrase. 2/2
BiggestofBears
When I see someone in need, and give what I can it shows my personality. What they choose to do with that money shows theirs.
I'm more talking about people gathering donations or funds rather than panhandlers. I used to give to panhandlers occasionally but after 1/2
Oh. Yeah absolutely not. I give regularly through my own channels for charity, not random booths on the streets or from retailers using it
As a tax write off.
getting screamed at a few times because either it wasn't enough or I offered to buy them food because I had no cash I've cut back on it. 2/2
icommentwithsteveharvey
Thats why id prefer a portion of my taxes be designated to help with public healthcare, education, etc
SoftKleenex
The government would love to oblige, after they raise taxes more so they can continue spending on useless things like always
Schmerbie
Wait. Who do you think pays for Medicare, Medicade, and k-12 public education? I guess I'm assuming you're from the US
MrXistentialCrisis
Same, but instead, they end up going to a shitty curriculum (common core) and no public health care.
Drunktrunkmonkey
No. We need more bombs for the war on oil. Foreign oil. IE oil we don't yet have.
bossmode
but then how are we gonna find our police hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ???
YouCanCallMeWilliam
Welcome to Denmark! Come follow me to proper pay, education, health care and beer.
Onsvaltti
Or Finland. ✌️ There are practically NO homelessness here, if you are here legally. Everyone gets help, one way or another.
Majskornsuperstar
Or Sweden!
NoLongerLiving
THATS COMMUNISM YOU FUCKING BASTARD
buzzedontacos
As an American I agree with you, and thank you.
digasisv
Well we need people who are willing to appropriately fund those. So far the line is empty.
forcefulpuspus
I'd be 100% down for that IF the money actually went to those causes
KyrieLancaster
.....isn't that the whole point of taxes? That's the reason they're there!
TheJossiWales
they already.... oh wait...
phuzz00
This was in London, so we already do have public healthcare etc. Of course it's all been massively underfunded by the Torys for a decade now
Havocme
In Ma. You can designate money to be added to your taxes for certain causes when you file.
brusilov
No shit
Zapatista91
A portion?
ezSleeper
We can't afford that. There's the 700+ billion for 'defense,' plus the other trillion+ 'lost' by the pentagon annually.
LowTinaTurner
Me too. Conservative's will ask where do we draw the line between helping everyone and keeping people incestivised to work for a living?
Frapporino
It's a good question that really does need an answer, but not before both sides agree to action.
PHCarter
Yeah.... were going to use your money for bombs. If you have a problem with that... well you have no choice
mwreckless
Or you could voluntarily donate it yourself.
RatKingCerf
Or we could all pay a smaller amount and prosper as a society so we all reap the benefits of caring for one another
Rogahar
Don't even have to raise taxes, just take some of the several million to billion each city gives to their police dept and re-assign it.
Logwarrior999
You can give as much to the poor as you wish, but forcing others to do so is no virtue. Convince people instead of threatening punishment
Nothing is stopping you from donating to any cause you want. So do it. Don't take a pic or make a Twitter post. Just do it and shutup.
SteelDragonKiryu
Retromorphic
Commie! ?
DeathReaper7291
Take a portion of the rest then and donate it. Taking it from taxes would essentially be taking from other programs.
NotMyDad
#defundthepolice
lietotheelderly
Sounds hot
Kronzor
Oh so you mean like what every developed nation in the world does?
shawnemack
nerdymonkeyinatuxedo
*in my best US accent* That sounds very communist of you son
HateEqually
To be fair. I'm more conservative but I don't want 90% of my income to go to taxes. However I'll still spend the 50% and would vote for a
Bill that spends a portion of that for public healthcare. I just dont think student loans should be wiped clean. But healthcare I'm all for.
Crowlands
My advice: Get a Dem in office. They're not going to raise taxes that high unless you're Bill Gates, and most won't wipe student loans.
Doomgriever
CoeurFranc
When religious charities are left to take care of the poors, the poors are placed at their mercy and subjected to their zeal for conversion.
dinBror
Socialism it does wonders
Greenshield
that's so 1950's... these days we accuse people of being socialists because we're apparently not super clear on the distinction
gumdumpster
Every time that phrase comes up I have to imagine a texan accent. That accent seems to represent that overzealous pride America has.
Tarzaninseattle
That’s more of a Kentucky accent. Texas is more “I tell you what...” (strong emphasis on the “what”)
Sorry, correction: “I’ll tell you what...”
unpunnyfuns
*hwat. Like in hwipped cream.
whoeezthat
Darn tootin’ Yee-has
NuclearBuddha
The issue I have with it is that it NEVER FUCKING REACHES PEOPLE. it passes too many hands on the way down, like the mayor where i used to/
Live started this thing to help the "black community" and not a dime donated made it anywhere other than his freaking pockets.
PballQhead
Very *God-Damned* Communist
Yes. God definatly hates helping the sick and poor!
*in my best british accent* oi, eets reery somfink good, innit?
FweejTheOverseer
Hungrypiemonger
Oil swears on me mum's,
blubberingbastard
You have to start the sentence with: " listen here now son, i-i-i say listen here,..."
Tastydumplings
Aldante92
Nah, it goes like "that there sounds like commie-talk, pard."
thedtp
lncorrectGrammerNazi
ScrewYouAndTheDildoYouRodeInOn
What? Are you SUUUUUURE you wouldn't rather subsidize the already ultra wealthy?
OhNoDontTouch
yousonofabitchimin.jpg
thewalkinged
Wait what, where do you live that your tax money isn't spent on those things?
I can guess
EngorgedPhallus
The United States. We spend our taxes on war and big business.
gregorclegane
Murcia ?
Sorry, I've been drunken, I'll get this
Murics
Fuck
Murica m
EmanNiemThcin
No, it is 'Mercia' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercia Though I believe these days they simply go by 'England'.
Ugh I miss the old days.
F234K
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. There are a lot of free loaders that could work easily here in Canada.
SargnargThaHardgeHag
So?
probablyshouldbedoingwork
That's really none of your business. If 1 out of 10 is a 'freeloader' I still vote the 9 should get support.
So some people are “free loading” by what, getting the bare minimum to survive? Who gives a shit? It’s worth it to help those who need it
Peynus
I don't trust myself to be humanitarian enough to pay well, or wise enough know where best to send the money. So, high taxes for me please.
So, because you're a hot mess with no self control, you wish for a strong daddy government to make you do good?
You can pay as much tax as you want and they will keep it. No one is stopping you.
All negative replies to this will be too American for me to understand... Please go vote, guys, and direct your money where it's needed
ArgonSpark
Do you trust yourself more than the government though?
dudedude09
Like a REAL patriot with pride in themselves, their community, and their country would. ??
IMPICKLERICK
But but but, that's the definition of socialism!
NauticalDisaster
Yes it is. When did socialism become a bad thing? It pays for schools,police,healthcare,military,roads,old age security, libraries,
Child benefits, garbage collection,social services,low income housing, funding for businesses, employment insurance. Real problem is
Not enough socialism. We need to look after our homeless and people living in poverty, provide housing,mental health care for all,dental etc
AmyBernadettePenny
Didn’t it used to be a US thing for standing up for the little guy?
WolfRexV3
Corporations disguise themselves as the little guy and pushed the actual little guys like us aside
CaptSchmidtGaming
this is a really terrible post. because we all know policy is how you help the poor, not spare change.
thechelonianshelmet
I'd pay more in tax for reliable help for those in need, because I've seen scammers in action,& watched charities waste incredible amounts.
dustpuma1
Virtue Signaling, It frustrates me to see the famous use it all the time for attention. Help ppl...well i'm not because X but u should!
jwillywill
Textinabox
You need to offer a plan to action. Most people have a hard time helping even themselves without small, easy to follow steps.
Bugdaze
Brilliant
epoke
Being offended is easy, free, and has a chance of providing a self-righteous high in the process. Giving money is a sacrifice.
thatsbadmmkay
Its because theyre all living paycheck to paycheck. And once they find financial stability, they cling to it.
sverebom
I don't give money to people on the streets. I give money to organizations that help people in need to get to a point where they don't /1
sverebom
need help anymore. According to this stunt Is be a selfish hypocrite despite everything I give to people on need. /end
MissIWasntItching
Unless he's literally asking for people to fuck the poor with him; One is a statement, and the other is a request. Apples and oranges.
DewiMorgan
More: a well-printed sign is an AD, not a request. If it'd been real, he'd most likely be trying to sign people up for monthly donations.
LoverInTheRain
Yea no shit. What is spare change going to do and being given to random guy wearing a sign. Wouldn't give him 1% of attention on either sign
Rkfinecake
Typical shaming. People are charitable. They give to charities and many like me hardly ever give to panhandlers.
Rkfinecake
I've been fooled more than once into helping someone buy drugs with the money I gave them.
Safebox36
Here's the vid: https://youtu.be/eBuC_0-d-9Y
GhostdogBlues
Another oversimplified, edited "experiment". Not giving a person money on the street does not equal "not actually doing anything about it".
NinjaClyde
NinjaClyde
superjeenyus
This seems like it belongs here: https://youtu.be/YcLAJbvwNQU
GroovyCrowley
KanzenChowa
He should flip one side to help and the other to fuck and really mess with people
kijocosp2
I give, I swear I do but I’m not gonna give a random guy with a sign any money. I’d ask which charity he’s collecting for and give there.
DewiMorgan
Not even give give there: I research my charities before giving. Why should a street sign change my research?
kijocosp2
Agree!
IIINanuqIII
The people that hold power can make meaningful policy changes to help the poor in a significant way. Most people are just trying to get by.
Dionysus187
Man learns poor people get upset when you say "Fuck the poor" and don't have enough to help other poor people. This post is dumb.
GrosseChung
(1) Citizens can’t help homeless people by giving them money on the street. They can help by voting for laws that would provide
GrosseChung
(2) housing and food for those who can’t afford it, as well as the opportunity to get a job with a living wage.
LuckyMacchiato
Not to be an asshole, why not both? Those are long term solutions to work towards but we need 'boots on the ground' to help now, yes?
DewiMorgan
Even if it helped to give beggars cash, sign-guy here clearly doesn't need help: he's just pushing an agenda. A deliberately bad experiment.
NonnieNic
To be fair, it’s not always the best idea to give money to anybody walking around with a sign, bucket or boot.
MrTay
This is not hypocrisy unless your looking for it. You see things too black and white. I would have the same reaction as the other people 1/
MrTay
I’m not going to confront someone with help the poor. I’m also going to give my money to places I know the poor will get help not anyone 2/
MrTay
Who says they are helping the poor. It’s not about not being willing to help it’s that charity money is misappropriated constantly.
xKaraKx
This. Id rather donate 5 bucks in change to a soup kitchen than some random dude on the street.... if i give anything its food or clothes
xKaraKx
NOT money
FrancisFulloffrenchpeople
Legalize prostitution and you could do two birds at once.
ravenfool
I guess if you're into that; not sure the birds will last very long though.
DewiMorgan
I see what you did there.
DewiMorgan
Both of them.
Strawbuddy
Grumbleswhisperer
This is stupid... I don't have money to help other poor people, I'm poor. We're all poor now, of course fuck the poor is gonna get reactions
Grumbleswhisperer
Like my government isn't transparently fucking robbing us blind... rich fuckers ignoring us and taking taxpayer handouts.
KilroyLichking
Grumbleswhisperer
Seeing this shit is like seeing a billion dollar company say"ya we're profiting while you poor fucks die, but see how hard it is to care?"
Grumbleswhisperer
Like I should be guilty I feel anger about poverty because I'm not fixing it. Never mind the billionaires controlling everything.
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KilroyLichking
if you really want to have some fun check out this infographic https://xkcd.com/980/huge
atomiccheesegod
Very much akin to thanking a veteran for their service but ignoring veterans homelessness/suicide
AmActuallyACat
Or setting off fireworks that sound like bombs
Splinthar
"SUPPORT THE TROOPS" Screams politicians who send them to die in stupid wars and then appoint morons to run the VA. Oh and no funding.
25BravoLife
One day it will be my time just let it happen
IrishPub
Very much the mentality of "If it's not happening to me, it's not important".
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Metalbawkses
Veteran here, can confirm
heygee
Maybe. But panhandling is not an example of how people care about the poor.
toptrojanfan
I deployed 7 times, spent over 5 years in the Middle East...I hate when people people say thqt because it's an empty platitude.
DemonFluffer1000
In Australia we are spending 500 million dollars upgrading a war memorial instead of providing support to returned servicemen/women ?.
vaporwavecatrave
What are you trying to say? That my thoughts and prayers wont feed, shelter, and help our nations veterans? /s
Skizzlesnap
Gotta wear a flag pin to make it count.
Justapartofyourimagination
I know this all too well.
ReallyRealDeal
The govt could easily take care of America's veterans if they didn't spend all the taxpayer money on an inflated military and BS wars.
hppyhppyhppy
Yup. When we’re gone it’s just a memory.
OnlyBones
Maybe they should talk to someone at the VA about getting help. Oh wait, the VA doesnt give a fuck.
NOYLL
What if we reduced our spending on military contractors and redirected that money towards better veteran care?
ActionJohnnie
Thots and players
MrJwinkyface
The Va is death trap for those of us forced to use it for heathcare
Geomon55
Rah, happens...
Metalbawkses
Rah
Plututoninium
Honestly if you proposed a law that changed the structure of the VA and increased taxes to even it out no itd be popular the system is broke
murlokotam
Not all poor are veterans. The difference here is "service".
NonZeroSumGame
100% this.
grandestgrandeur
But.. we threw them a parade, what do you mean they can't live on JUST a parade!? Ok how about a holiday that isn't even federal? /s
SSon1c
war is a thing of the past, what keeps fueling it is pure greed and disconsideration for human life.
sullw214
Hahaha, half of the world's populations leaders don't give a shit about human life. That'll change any day now... Greed too. Hold yr breath.
FlamingDeathGoat
Which is why I hate that empty lip service bullshit. 99% of the people that said it to my fact don't give a fuck
Watchkeeper
Oh the UK Govt set up "The Forces Covenent", to much fanfare. Companies sign up etc. Loads of bollocks and makes zero actual difference.
capillano
It’s a bit of a set up, if I saw a dude dressed in new clothes with a professional sign hmmm not giving spare change to him
techley
Meaningless platitudes. Like "thoughts and prayers"
Imhonestlypartying
Or allowing the public to be so poorly informed that the US gov uses the military in ways that causes PTSD and everything that goes with it
sjbrooksy7447
I'd like to thank them by not sending them to pointless wars
HenryLongfellowIII
That will just result in more advertising/propaganda spending to convince enough folks that the wars are not pointless.
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
I wish they didn't send us so many times. I stayed in until after we got UBL and thought it was over. That was over 9yrs ago & not in AFG.
PluckedDuck
Can't sell weapons if they're not being used up.
NobodyExpectsTheSpanishInquistion
I'd like people to stop thanking them for starting wars. By taking part in a war of aggression, they are complicit.
EllEzDee
I'd like people to stop thanking people for doing a job. A job that hasn't been relevant for almost a century. A job involving killing. Gr8!
sullw214
In the good old days, people trained and fought so people like you weren't killed, your wives and children weren't taken as slaves. But hey.
EllEzDee
"almost a century" GJ! In the good old days slavery was commonplace, common diseases were deadly, and basic education was only for the rich.
sullw214
So what's changed since then?
EllEzDee
This is the 21st century. This is the west. Nations are not won through conquest. Wars of self-preservation are not fought on battlefields.
obrover19413000
Vets have more physical and mental health services, than anyone in the country...90% on the street, have PTSD or drug & alcohol problems...1
obrover19413000
...and will not seek services...sad...
sullw214
What "services"?
Mack1986
A large portion of homeless are vets, but not a large portion of vets are homeless. Mental illness and substance abuse are still the most
YourLocalSatanist
A family friend of mine was injured in Afganistan. He lost his left leg from the knee down from an IED. The VA gave him a 40% disability.
YourLocalSatanist
The VA literally gives people a rating for how disabled you are. Which gives then a reason to not treat you as well as others.
YourLocalSatanist
The only people I've seen with an arbitrary 100% disability are high profile veterans that got injured.
papalongshlong
1/2 That’s just not true, the gov tries to cover as little as possible and say so many issues aren’t considered service related to avoid
papalongshlong
2/3 spending money to help them. We saw it in 9/11 fire fighters not getting support and you can see it now in vets who get asked to go
papalongshlong
5/5 homeless shelters. Housing First has actual evidence of working well, telling them to quit drugs then get a place doesn’t work.
papalongshlong
4/5 And if we actually housed the homeless veterans, they’d have a safe space to quit any drugs without losing their shit like they would at
papalongshlong
3/4 irradiated areas or work near burn pits where they breathe in toxic chemicals but the gov refuses to help pay for treatment.
aworkoffiction
$2 doesn’t go far to an individual. But if everyone in the country gave $2 a year in taxes we would have $600,000,000 for the poor.
joe40001
Or Zuckerberg/Bezos could just defer their pay for 1 hour and accomplish the same effect.
mbox
Bill Gates is spending his money trying to stop people from dieing of malaria in developing countries, more than the government is doing.
DewiMorgan
US taxes work more like: $600M for some contracting company, and $0 for the poor.
joe40001
Yep, if you want to help the poor give money to one of many UBI pilot programs. Andrew Yang and others are working to do this.
mbox
UBI is the stupidest idea I have ever heard, a shallow way to make people reliant on the government.
joe40001
There is a good amount of data supporting it, and it doesn't have to be through gov. Having extra money won't hurt the poor.
igivetheinternets
So donate to an org that advocates for giving more money away? Welfare with extra steps.
joe40001
If tons of people are struggling to make ends meet, UBI helps those people,. and government won't do it. What's the problem with it?
mbox
Make living cheaper, relax the regs and make it easier for people to build affordable housing.
mbox
Housing regulations are designed to keep poor people out of nice areas. Towns only want mcmansions and millionaires living there.
mbox
Do you know how extremely illegal it is to build affordable housing in most places?
SarcasticComment
I don't make a habit of giving money to lunatics with signs.
secretdpp
I give based on entertainment of their sign. Or honesty
Shineupordown
yeah there is so many scams for once you dont know who to trust anymore..Like BLM scam where ppl donated thousands that went who knows where
KurtHamster
How about signs for lunatics with money?!
SarcasticComment
Goes into business selling MAGA
Heavenissize17socks
And don't get me started about aquatic tarts…
Metalbawkses
Handin' out swords that people think give em supreme executive authority and shot
SadEyedLadyoftheLowlands
When it comes to homeless people asking for help: Whether or not he is lying is on him. Whether or not you help is on you.
sciencebasedlifeform
Thepumpernickelpickle
Saw a woman begging outside my store with no shoes standing on the sidewalk. This is in Central CA where it’s 108 degrees. A woman stopped
Thepumpernickelpickle
And got out of her car took off her sandals, grabbed two bottles of water and handed it all to the woman who took them and looked very
Thepumpernickelpickle
Grateful The kind Samaritan left and the beggar walked around the building and threw everything in the bushes. She then walked to the other
Thepumpernickelpickle
Side of the street and started begging again. This woman was using the heat and being barefoot to garner sympathy and it was working.
SarcasticComment
Bush near the liquor store was littered with food since it was a popular begging spot. Addicts wanted cash only for alcohol.
IDidntDoIt
Yeah I really check my charities when I give money but usually I give things or time.
KilroyLichking
alternatereality543
I don't offer money. I offer food, water, a blanket. The real ones accept it graciously, the fakes tell me no thanks.
DewiMorgan
Socks. Especially up North. Clean warm socks. Worth more than gold.
alternatereality543
Yup, I'm in Colorado
apbadogs
I never have either but what clinched for me was a couple who i passed on the freeway and recognized, laughing, all is good, well 1/2
VInTheSkyWithElephants
My ex-SIL quit her job to panhandle because she made more money doing it
RagingNorseman
How much did she make?
lowkeylives
I've heard you can make a few hundred a day if you get a good spot/sign. Probably not the norm, but better than minimum wage
WatcherInTheDark
Bout tree fiddy.
apbadogs
Dressed but saw them prior at a busy corner all disheveled begging for money. They ruined me. 2/2.
BodyAnimalBistro
Ruined for me when a homeless guy with a kindand sweet sign tried to force his way into my gf's car at a red light at night.
VInTheSkyWithElephants
I don’t normally carry cash but I had a couple bucks on me once. Gave it to someone who asked and he followed me saying he needed more
vaporwavecatrave
Florida ruined me. I used to drive around with a pack of water bottles and wrapped snacks in my car for the homeless. They never wanted it
Goarath
I read a thing a while back saying the homeless people don't take food from strangers due to fear of what might actually be in the food.
vaporwavecatrave
I always had snacks that came in individual packaging but that's fair
bekind2joeblake
Honestly I wouldn’t give him money cause it looks like a scam. Who’s he with? So many “charities” are corrupt. Gotta be careful
LogicalFallacyMan
I think even if it was a real well known charity this would still be the case unfortunately.
LogicalFallacyMan
Also the idea here is most people never approached to even ask about the charity
Sinmiedo1931
Yeah,like the UHO https://nypost.com/2010/06/24/judge-rules-to-permanently-shut-down-faux-homeless-charity-but-hucksters-still-out-in-force/
Sinmiedo1931
Used to see them in NYC all the time, then I looked them up and realized it was a total scam job. I was so heated.
llGreenll
The human fund, money for people
bekind2joeblake
And that’s as specific as I can make it
bigsteve31sk8
Like the Trump foundation for instance lol.
Kittynomnoms
This is why I don't give people money on the street or to stores asking for donations. I'd rather do my own research and donate what I 1/2
Kittynomnoms
can. Especially when they say "can you help the children??" Which children? What am I helping with? Such a manipulative phrase. 2/2
BiggestofBears
When I see someone in need, and give what I can it shows my personality. What they choose to do with that money shows theirs.
Kittynomnoms
I'm more talking about people gathering donations or funds rather than panhandlers. I used to give to panhandlers occasionally but after 1/2
BiggestofBears
Oh. Yeah absolutely not. I give regularly through my own channels for charity, not random booths on the streets or from retailers using it
BiggestofBears
As a tax write off.
Kittynomnoms
getting screamed at a few times because either it wasn't enough or I offered to buy them food because I had no cash I've cut back on it. 2/2
icommentwithsteveharvey
Thats why id prefer a portion of my taxes be designated to help with public healthcare, education, etc
SoftKleenex
The government would love to oblige, after they raise taxes more so they can continue spending on useless things like always
Schmerbie
Wait. Who do you think pays for Medicare, Medicade, and k-12 public education? I guess I'm assuming you're from the US
MrXistentialCrisis
Same, but instead, they end up going to a shitty curriculum (common core) and no public health care.
Drunktrunkmonkey
No. We need more bombs for the war on oil. Foreign oil. IE oil we don't yet have.
bossmode
but then how are we gonna find our police hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ???
YouCanCallMeWilliam
Welcome to Denmark! Come follow me to proper pay, education, health care and beer.
Onsvaltti
Or Finland. ✌️ There are practically NO homelessness here, if you are here legally. Everyone gets help, one way or another.
Majskornsuperstar
Or Sweden!
NoLongerLiving
THATS COMMUNISM YOU FUCKING BASTARD
buzzedontacos
As an American I agree with you, and thank you.
digasisv
Well we need people who are willing to appropriately fund those. So far the line is empty.
forcefulpuspus
I'd be 100% down for that IF the money actually went to those causes
KyrieLancaster
.....isn't that the whole point of taxes? That's the reason they're there!
TheJossiWales
they already.... oh wait...
phuzz00
This was in London, so we already do have public healthcare etc. Of course it's all been massively underfunded by the Torys for a decade now
Havocme
In Ma. You can designate money to be added to your taxes for certain causes when you file.
brusilov
No shit
Zapatista91
A portion?
ezSleeper
We can't afford that. There's the 700+ billion for 'defense,' plus the other trillion+ 'lost' by the pentagon annually.
LowTinaTurner
Me too. Conservative's will ask where do we draw the line between helping everyone and keeping people incestivised to work for a living?
Frapporino
It's a good question that really does need an answer, but not before both sides agree to action.
PHCarter
Yeah.... were going to use your money for bombs. If you have a problem with that... well you have no choice
mwreckless
Or you could voluntarily donate it yourself.
RatKingCerf
Or we could all pay a smaller amount and prosper as a society so we all reap the benefits of caring for one another
Rogahar
Don't even have to raise taxes, just take some of the several million to billion each city gives to their police dept and re-assign it.
Logwarrior999
You can give as much to the poor as you wish, but forcing others to do so is no virtue. Convince people instead of threatening punishment
igivetheinternets
Nothing is stopping you from donating to any cause you want. So do it. Don't take a pic or make a Twitter post. Just do it and shutup.
SteelDragonKiryu
Retromorphic
Commie! ?
DeathReaper7291
Take a portion of the rest then and donate it. Taking it from taxes would essentially be taking from other programs.
NotMyDad
#defundthepolice
lietotheelderly
Sounds hot
Kronzor
Oh so you mean like what every developed nation in the world does?
shawnemack
nerdymonkeyinatuxedo
*in my best US accent* That sounds very communist of you son
HateEqually
To be fair. I'm more conservative but I don't want 90% of my income to go to taxes. However I'll still spend the 50% and would vote for a
HateEqually
Bill that spends a portion of that for public healthcare. I just dont think student loans should be wiped clean. But healthcare I'm all for.
Crowlands
My advice: Get a Dem in office. They're not going to raise taxes that high unless you're Bill Gates, and most won't wipe student loans.
Doomgriever
CoeurFranc
When religious charities are left to take care of the poors, the poors are placed at their mercy and subjected to their zeal for conversion.
dinBror
Socialism it does wonders
Greenshield
that's so 1950's... these days we accuse people of being socialists because we're apparently not super clear on the distinction
gumdumpster
Every time that phrase comes up I have to imagine a texan accent. That accent seems to represent that overzealous pride America has.
Tarzaninseattle
That’s more of a Kentucky accent. Texas is more “I tell you what...” (strong emphasis on the “what”)
Tarzaninseattle
Sorry, correction: “I’ll tell you what...”
unpunnyfuns
*hwat. Like in hwipped cream.
whoeezthat
Darn tootin’ Yee-has
NuclearBuddha
The issue I have with it is that it NEVER FUCKING REACHES PEOPLE. it passes too many hands on the way down, like the mayor where i used to/
NuclearBuddha
Live started this thing to help the "black community" and not a dime donated made it anywhere other than his freaking pockets.
PballQhead
Very *God-Damned* Communist
Crowlands
Yes. God definatly hates helping the sick and poor!
icommentwithsteveharvey
*in my best british accent* oi, eets reery somfink good, innit?
FweejTheOverseer
Hungrypiemonger
Oil swears on me mum's,
blubberingbastard
You have to start the sentence with: " listen here now son, i-i-i say listen here,..."
Tastydumplings
Aldante92
Nah, it goes like "that there sounds like commie-talk, pard."
thedtp
lncorrectGrammerNazi
ScrewYouAndTheDildoYouRodeInOn
What? Are you SUUUUUURE you wouldn't rather subsidize the already ultra wealthy?
OhNoDontTouch
yousonofabitchimin.jpg
thewalkinged
Wait what, where do you live that your tax money isn't spent on those things?
Kronzor
I can guess
EngorgedPhallus
The United States. We spend our taxes on war and big business.
gregorclegane
Murcia ?
gregorclegane
Sorry, I've been drunken, I'll get this
gregorclegane
Murics
gregorclegane
Fuck
gregorclegane
Murica m
EmanNiemThcin
No, it is 'Mercia' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercia Though I believe these days they simply go by 'England'.
gregorclegane
Ugh I miss the old days.
F234K
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. There are a lot of free loaders that could work easily here in Canada.
SargnargThaHardgeHag
So?
probablyshouldbedoingwork
That's really none of your business. If 1 out of 10 is a 'freeloader' I still vote the 9 should get support.
shawnemack
So some people are “free loading” by what, getting the bare minimum to survive? Who gives a shit? It’s worth it to help those who need it
Peynus
I don't trust myself to be humanitarian enough to pay well, or wise enough know where best to send the money. So, high taxes for me please.
Logwarrior999
So, because you're a hot mess with no self control, you wish for a strong daddy government to make you do good?
igivetheinternets
You can pay as much tax as you want and they will keep it. No one is stopping you.
Peynus
All negative replies to this will be too American for me to understand... Please go vote, guys, and direct your money where it's needed
ArgonSpark
Do you trust yourself more than the government though?
dudedude09
Like a REAL patriot with pride in themselves, their community, and their country would. ??
icommentwithsteveharvey
IMPICKLERICK
But but but, that's the definition of socialism!
NauticalDisaster
Yes it is. When did socialism become a bad thing? It pays for schools,police,healthcare,military,roads,old age security, libraries,
NauticalDisaster
Child benefits, garbage collection,social services,low income housing, funding for businesses, employment insurance. Real problem is
NauticalDisaster
Not enough socialism. We need to look after our homeless and people living in poverty, provide housing,mental health care for all,dental etc
AmyBernadettePenny
Didn’t it used to be a US thing for standing up for the little guy?
WolfRexV3
Corporations disguise themselves as the little guy and pushed the actual little guys like us aside