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ICompletedEngineeringOnTime
I provide nitrogen to. The environment after eating beans
Trentski
** Painting with all the colors of the wind Intensifies **
realdale
This is also known as a Ménage à trois
nonamejanie
My great grandma used to tell stories about gardening. She was a foul mouthed Native American. I loved her so much. She hated gardening.
BigDaddyLove
They're also nutritionally complete apparently...
ocelot13
Europeans saw this and assumed they didn’t know how to farm, thus adding to the “savages” stereotype
impulsiveguy
No, I did not. Thank you for sharing
wantondisregard
And then the Europeans come and fuck everything
gnochi
The Three Sisters are great for if you’re managing a plot of land with people. They make robotic management impossible with current tech.
gnochi
As such, profit potential is way down and likelihood of scales use is lower :/
gnochi
At-scale use*
KimchiBlyat
*in THAT voice* well actually the did plant all 3 at once but only one of them grew due to the nutrients of the soil.
KimchiBlyat
As one grows and uses the nutrients the other nutrients can "stock up" onve the nutrients for one is done it cycles through.
WhatTheDormouseSaid
Las tres hermanas
4thwalled
OhNibbles
StealTow
There were was no war, and everything was perfect until the horrible white man came.
Jaynecobb7
Which is why they're such an economic powerhouse today
MarkPenrice
Clever farming is no match for superior armaments and an imperial mindset, sadly.
Mouse314
If anyone is wondering, the reason this isn't done anymore is because it is less efficient, when you have tools like ploughs n stuff.
Distrill
called the three sisters for a reason. Always good for a home garden.
GrowinWildontheFunnyFarm
All that changed when the fire nation attacked.
MetroidJunkie
It's amazing how well certain combinations of things can function as an ecosystem. Another great example is Aquaponics, fish with crops.
MyDadsIphone
Baby ducks and rice
MetroidJunkie
The fish's waste becomes nitrites which serve as fertilizer for the plants, and the plants in turn keep the water clean for the fish.
NotACanadian
"THE" Native Americans as if it's all one monolithic group. Three Sisters agriculture is 1) only present in the Eastern Woodlands of 1/
NotACanadian
2/ North America, and 2) was not always the way agriculture worked: corn had a head start over beans in arriving in the Eastern Woodlands,
NotACanadian
4/ became a monocrop in many places, with evidence of pellagra showing up often before the later introduction of beans. Before either corn
NotACanadian
3/ starting around 200 BC and a cold-hardy variant developed in 800/900 AD, which then took over the whole agricultural sphere and
NotACanadian
5/ OR beans appeared, there was an entirely different agricultural package domesticated by the people of the EW. Though it was replaced,
NotACanadian
6/ squash and sunflower are modern survivors. History's always changing, even for people that some consider archaic.
SolaceHaestas
Pellagra: When Cornbread Just Isn't Enough.
NotACanadian
Yup. Nixtamalization was invented shortly after, but I imagine it took some time to realize it was healthier to eat hominy than just corn
SolaceHaestas
I think an ingredient in Bakers Yeast killed off Pellagra.
mattchew55b
I have tried this and it definitely works, but the beans out grew everything else and kind of mangled the corn.
TheWarHymn
Maybe plant the beans a little later to give time for the corn to grow out?
somnif
May want to try a more "heirloom" variety. Few hundred years ago, many varieties weren't quite as hyperactive as today.
MarkPenrice
Probably not as good an idea as a hobby you only spend a couple hours on each weekend than as an up-close-and-personal subsistence lifestyle
Kehy
I would figure the squash would get out of control first and go nuts
NotACanadian
The purpose of the squash is to cover the ground, stymieing weed growth.
Kehy
It'd take over and kill the beans and corn too if the timing wasn't dead on. Corn can grow pretty slowly, beans can grow fast, squash faster
mattchew55b
That too! We don't eat that much squash, so it was kind of overwhelming.
Kehy
If you try again, cooked squash freezes ok
ipokeangrycats
The combination is nicknamed “the three sisters.”
Perkunas687
Named so by the Iroquois, I believe.
BatmanIPad
So..... A 3 some goodness
EtiolatedRaven
We call the soup Nasôbôn which really isn't anything fancy, basically (loosely) means 3-kind-soup ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but still
Sparkyclark
I tried this once, and two weeks after planting the squash I couldn't even walk through the garden it was so thick.
wlomango
Commonly tobacco was also grown know as the brother to the three sister
OnTheBrenk
Interestingly enough, nicotine in tobacco is a natural insecticide.
Snooj
But three sisters together usually hate each other.
GoALittleCrazy
I would take a bullet for either of my sisters. When I have to actually be with them, I take a lot of Bulleit.
jusjoshing
delitescency
Well NOW I understand One Hour One Life better
StarSpangledHammered
What is that reference?
delitescency
Great but weird video game that got popular recently. Has '3 sisters stew' in it. If you like survival games i recommend
WhyIsTheVolcanoErupting
Three sisters soup. Mmmmm
EtiolatedRaven
You know it too, this stuff is amazing.
Corbinator
One is Elizabeth Warren I think?
ZombieJonSnow
Shes the pumpkin.
MisterTrashPanda
Noice
kamikazekitten
Meh. Woman had the guts to test herself as opposed to the gutless wonder who runs away with his tax info. Lol. Coward.
EvilMadMonk
i've seen that movie
PolyTheWicked
Came here to say the same thing.
spratacuss
Me too
MrPajamaSam
IO?
SometimesISayDumbShit
Yep!
qtip13
That's what I was coming here to say
DooksandPooks
What a bad movie
imsuchaweirdo
I enjoyed it. After i watched it it made me question what i contribute to the wellbeing of the planet.
PotooGeatAndWise
Was that movie as bad as it seemed to me? I really love sci-fi but that was a rough cut.
SometimesISayDumbShit
Holy shit I suffered through it but it was looooooong and uneventful
IamCalcifer
Absolutely agree. The entire movie I was anticipating something to actually happen....
motherfluffer
Same, I wanted to like it but something was missing
usersubbordercontrol
Native tribes truly have tons to teach.
Manbirbcat
I have lived around natives my entire life. All I've learned is stay away when they are drunk and lock your stuff up.
A2DY79
So much ancient wisdom. *air jerking*
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
they weren't too stupid to invent guns! some cultures just have different priories. like... basketweaving and... crafts.
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqw527ivrQE
BiomechPhoenix
TBF guns were very much not a European invention either. Made in China, then Britain took over China with the power of drugs or something
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
how many times do i have to say this. I don't care what wikipedia says
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
gunpowder yes, but chinese guns were shit, they didn't even have breach loading
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
besides if china gets credit for guns they also deserve credit for smallpox. really white people owe their entire conquest to asian trade
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
;)
BiomechPhoenix
Breech loading wasn't a thing for personal guns until the 1800s. There were some light cannons that were breech loaded but they were rareish
mufasa1028
Started thinking about beans, refried beans, hamburger, I really want a hamburger right now
JarJarDrinks
All that ended when whites arrived with their pigs. Pigs destroyed all those crops, driving the natives out of tribal homelands
deathloop
pigs are disease vectors to and from humans. it was the pigs that the first spanish explorers brought that started all of the epidemics
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YouSufferWithCognitiveDissonance
Then came pigs in a blanket
Warzone12
It all changed when the fire nation attacked
agentarcher
He came dancing across the water, Cortez the pig. What a killer.
feelingfine69
It was worth it for the bacon
mistermikerman
That's called the horny interloper.
kadaeux
I know it's America, but police are a more recent problem I doubt they had anything to do with driving the natives out. ( :P )
lichenit
Let's not forget the Spanish
nonCanadianGoose
To be clear, it was the larger and more ravenous European farm hogs. Peccary, paddle foot, & other indigenous breeds weren’t as destructive
Gravitysucks
Such as war
Cheomesh
*chuckles in tobaco*
bananahandjobs
Yes. It was the pigs that drove people out.
TheRealWop
Yes the famous pigrims
Perkunas687
White people:
Cthulhuonabike
I mean it didn't help
GoldFrieza
yeah, the pigs drove them out /s
Taxicat
Among many other factors, yes.
lobosrul
I think smallpox probably did more.
Metalhead47
Call me skeptical. Seems the beans would strangle the corn.
MarkPenrice
Well, I would expect that, as subsistence farmers, they've have the time for and would be rather devoted to directly managing that problem.
Metalhead47
Interesting reaponses here, might have to try this myself if spring ever shows up.
TheMagnificentE
My dad said they used to grow peas with another crop. They added nutrients to each other and the one crop support the peas.
maelennfromterokkareu
My grandparents in Communist Romania did that. They only had small patches of land left after the Party robbed them off.
somnif
Some varieties more than others, and it does take work to keep the balance going, but its a good system when kept in check.
LokiShinigami
Dont kink shame
ActionJohnnie
Beans. The serial killer crop.
Belvedere86
I did this a few years back, I don't remember how many beans I got but the corn was the best crop I've ever had.
MeSoErnie
The beans and corn back then were very different.
rusrsdude
"Harder, Daddy" - corn, probably
jogretheogre
I worked at a Native American college and we did this. Worked better than traditional planting but it requires more attention and skill.
maninthedarkness
Which the Native Americans had plenty of time for.
DeanOMiite
I know it's just internet points but I hate how people downvote others for voicing an innocent and entirely neutral curiosity or skepticism.
VikingRuger
That's because it takes longer to type out "I'm skeptical blah blah blah" than it would to google it.
VikingRuger
That's because it takes longer to type out "I'm skeptical blah blah blah" than it would to google it.
DeanOMiite
Maybe but sometimes I want to discuss things with humans!
Metalhead47
Heh, I thought it was doing surprisingly well... =/
whatwhatwhonow
Corn doesn't breathe
AdmJota
Corn does so breathe. If plants didn't breathe, we wouldn't have any oxygen.
whatwhatwhonow
Aight, I'll cop to this one. I said breath and meant trachea (or some other breathing tube, don't @ me)
Metalhead47
Ahem... https://sciencing.com/definition-plant-respiration-5655078.html
Clarkimus360
Maybe corn likes it.
davemymindisgoingicanfeelit
Found the masochist
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Yeah Metalhead47, you ever think about that? No, you only think about yourself.
valen00
how do you think popcorn came about?
fuzzygreendemon
TIL im corn
HereIsaUsernameAndItIsThisTheThingIAmWritingRightNow
AZDan2012
https://imgur.com/0EKpIHz
GiftedMagnet
hi skeptical, i’m dad
Cheomesh
It works; the indian village historical site near me does this in their gardens.
PlsKillMePls
That's really cool and all but.. That's a pumpkin.
MarkPenrice
Pumpkins are squashes.
Chrasoe
Thank you!! I was about to point out the same thing!! Glad someone else noticed this!
SliceofLifeisDicey
Isn't a pumpkin a variety of squash?
DirtPoorFarmerSeedingUsersub
Yes. Yes it is
Petkittiessucktitties4
If only the Europeans shared this land instead of taking it all for themselves.
malexmatt
For the most part, the Natives were not interested in sharing.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
They did share, they just took the good bits.
Cheomesh
Where I'm at, Indians ane Euros seemed to get along until the Protestants got in charge.Well, Susqahannocs aside, anyways.
modicumjones
Welllll, the Jesuit Roman Catholics spread smallpox like mad but i guess you're right that they weren't trying to be shitty about things.
Cheomesh
Not here. At least, not intentionally. Raids from across the bay were the norm before Euros arrived, and of course Susquehannock, but 1/
Cheomesh
while trying to make sure I don't candy-coat what was going to be a cultural genocide regarless, sometimes I wonder what could have been.2/2
ShowMeYourGarden
Technical term for guilds like this is companion planting
Arkayb33
So this is what r/politics means when they say "we're entering another gilded age"
fazeroo
I recently learnt about this. And that using chilli water on fruits will stop birds and possums from eating them.
IlluminaBlade
but birds don't experience capsaicin pain.
WayLatetotheParty
That's cause they don't digest the seeds. Perhaps if it's been altered to be suspended in water it's different?
TheWarHymn
How about bugs?
JeSuisBaguette
you use pesticide, it is bug-spicy
fazeroo
That i don't know. It might work for some. Our trees were already attacked so i have to wait before i can try it. I know white oil can help
DetectiveGaff
We set a perimeter of traps for Japanese beatles and damn did they destroy berry bushes
dingofdong
IIRC capsaicin was evolved at least partly as an insecticide, so... maybe?
0haterade0sipper0
then the Europeans came...
Gravitysucks
And they win the war after a long and hard fought battle.
TheSexiestRaccoonEver
“Knock knock, it’s Europe.”
GiantWookie
Kind of insulting to use such a simplistic wrap up of a very technical and difficult to understand situation
forsythfd922
And added syphilis to the ménage a trois.
levijom
And increased farm yields by over 1000%
RayloKen
*for the people they brought over
daltonlmn
And killed lots of those natives that taught them to farm in the process. History is spoken, we're not the good guys there.
levijom
You seem like you would be into cuckhold porn
daltonlmn
Nah, I prefer to fuck real women.
bobbynixon
And showed them actual inventions like the wheel
CorrugatedUrethra1995
And created an agricultural structure strong enough to support people in their billions.
Cranbananarama
Finally, someone to blame.
AliBarber
After killing off millions.
MyTrueIdiotSelf990
Perfectly balanced.
CorrugatedUrethra1995
Unavoidable and incidental exchange of disease /= deliberate murder. Now try finding a source for smallpox blankets. I know that's next.
PossiblyABananaButProbablyNot
You need to be prepared in case your smallpox gets cold. Keep it warm with a nice blanket.
Devious11
Germ theory wasn't accepted until the 1880s and prior to that people thought diseases were caused by Miasma or "Bad Air".
pandaman1982
https://web.archive.org/web/20150403033815/http://www.politicsandthelifesciences.org/Biosecurity_course_folder/readings/fenn.html
CorrugatedUrethra1995
There it is. The one often cited instance and its efficacy is highly doubted.
VikingRuger
There was that one guy (British) who was like "We should give them smallpox blankets" and everyone else was like, "ya, no"
montyman185
There was certainly some deliberate murder, I mean, that is kind of how Europeans did things back then, even to each other.
realdale
You are kidding right? There is proof that the people that colonized this nation killed millions intentionally.
CorrugatedUrethra1995
Mexico maybe. The worst thing the USA did, the Trail of Tears, killed 20,000. Still horrible but a far cry from millions.
NotACanadian
An unfortunate myth overexaggerated and parroted by too many people. The effect of disease is overstated, the 'virgin soil' narrative is 1/
NotACanadian
3/ Paul Kelton et al.
NotACanadian
2/ outright false, and there is copious evidence of deliberate attempts to wipe out the indigenous peoples. Read 'Beyond Germs' by
MorbundRotund
Never forgetting that Native populations liked making war and killing each other in their own conflicts.
AliBarber
Sure thing, but we weren't talking about that
RayloKen
Thats like mw and your woman having sex together and then when we get caught by you, I say "but you were going to put your penis in her, 1/
RayloKen
so I did it for you. Congrats, you're going to be a father now." 2/
schizznatt
So that makes it okay for foreign invaders to come in a nearly wipe them out?
FrozenCoast
It was how things were done back then.I’m glad we don’t do it anymore,but pretty much everyone living everywhere took the land from someone.
MorbundRotund
Neither is good, but losing does not impute noble morality.
montyman185
Not okay, but the same thing they did everywhere else, not really their fault they didn't understand micro biology and disease immunity.
FrozenCoast
Not sure why only the last displacement is considered especially bad. Should Anglo-Saxon descendants get reparations from Normans in the UK?