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I never thought I'd run into this in real life. Genuinely thought this crap was restricted to tumblr.
Dec 22, 2016 10:22 PM
Imsmitty3
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I never thought I'd run into this in real life. Genuinely thought this crap was restricted to tumblr.
bmjflow
Tell her you aren't comfortable enabling her mental illness and use normal pronouns.
Uffen90
Some people today can't accept that they aren't special, like their parents always told them, that they are just a part of the the whole.
emorage
Just say no thank you...
brosephpulitzer
You sound like an asshole. It don't cost a thing to be nice
Cuntard
So why are you being a jerk?
dragonthc
When being a snowflake is just not unique enough.
mrlaverne
"Hey Tia." "Actually, my name's Kim. I'd prefer you call me that." "Naaaaaah FUCK you Tia."
cousteau
There's a difference between a name and a set of pronouns; the latter requires making up and learning a new subset of the English language.
TheEpicDj3
PechaKucha
THERES ONLY TWO GENDERS LOLOL!1!!1!! IM POLITICAL LY CORRECCT!!!! HAHAHA *All gender queers suddenly turn cis or trans*
lemingdriver
Are you a wizard.
PechaKucha
yeah
FisticuffMcFightsalot
I'm generally an accepting guy, but I'm not using made up words just to accommodate that kind of bullshit.
stygyan
Words were not defined by a Supreme Entity. Words are all made up.
BoldTurkey
But when you're using those phrases referring to this person, it would be to other people, so how would your coworker ever know? *Lawyered*
NotGonnaSugarCoat
Daily mental health sessions incoming
nomsdv
Ok but if it really “doesn’t even matter” what pronouns people use like you’re all saying why can’t this person just call their coworker zhe
nomsdv
Like they asked? It’s not extra effort to say and everyone is satisfied? It just makes no sense.
IMainReinhardt
"You get a choice of either he or she. I will try to respect that. If you cant handle that i will just call you 'Cunt'. Understand?"
UrKungFuNoGood
Imsmitty3
Yup
tommy0877
Demand that they change name to Lou. So they can be Lou zher
LucidPariah
catfishingyourmom
ImFrank
Ifidonttelltheinternetwhowill
I will never use these made up pronouns, never.
stygyan
Every word is made up. Every. Damned. Word.
igoslow
seriously i could careless what someone wants be called. are they functional at their job is all that matters to me
pmurdPuppyShaper
I just wouldn't talk to it
lazydaysy
What's the point in having different pronouns for genders at all? Use the same for everyone and you have one problem less. You're welcome.
Link500
That didn't happen
Imsmitty3
You're right. I was bored at work and made it up.
Softcreamybeige
Dude, atleast they told you, if they are transgender and it makes them happy, why infring?
cousteau
OP is mad at demanding the usage of a customized variant of the English language to speak about Zher, not about the genderqueer part.
cousteau
Well, maybe about the genderqueer part too, but I think the point of the post is the Zhe/Zher/Zhers/Zherself part.
Softcreamybeige
Then just user they and them
cousteau
No no, it has to be zhe and zher, because everybody has the right to modify the language to suit their needs and force it on the rest.
Sticklebrickk
"Hey, you!" Works for everybody
TortovRoddle
To everyone saying they're "made up words" I got news for ya.... all words are made-up words. So use a different objection.
lemingdriver
Yeah but these are new word that have a negative meaning, perhAp if more people whom pprofess a title were to have merit as a person...1
lemingdriver
They could be exemplars that the common man would grow to like and enjoy.
HighFive1
1/2Not when each person makes up their own separate words. That's like having to recite someone's fav food/color/animal every time you see
HighFive1
2/2 them....& them telling you you're wrong bc their favorite food/color/pet has changed. But you're the one that must adapt to them
evoLrelliK
Doesn't "Zhe" and "Zher" still define a binary? Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought (1/2)
evoLrelliK
genderqueer was about breaking the confines of binary definition of gender? (2/2)
cousteau
Yeah it feels like they're adding extra genders instead of removing them.
irongaz
Zhe/zher is analogous to she/her or he/him, not he/her, if that makes sense? Zhe is the nominative and zher the objective.
evoLrelliK
Now it makes sense, thanks for that!
Angatita
Serious question, what the fuck does "genderqueer" even mean? The word itself makes no fucking sense
irongaz
Any gender identity that is not purely masculine or feminine; either a combination of the two, or defined without reference to that binary.
Angatita
Wouldn't that just be the same as genderfluid?
irongaz
I'm no expert, but I'd interpret genderfluid to mean a genderqueer identity which is not fixed & changes over time or based on circumstance.
Angatita
So changes vs no gender identification essentially?
scaredanddelusionalmonkey
It's 10000x Easyer if you just say "they" it's gender neutral and not obnoxious as hell. Helps to avoid conflict
cousteau
Yeah but "they" for singular feels weird. I'd prefer "it" but that may sound a bit insulting.
GooberSnotpants
English personal pronouns have never been static.
scaredanddelusionalmonkey
Yeah, but technically in the dictionary, you can use they for one. And "it" is a really bad one, I've got some friends in the comunity
scaredanddelusionalmonkey
And they say it's worse than misgendering
GooberSnotpants
For sure. "it" is completely dehumanizing.
rianocerous
Tell it you're an attack helicopter, and demand to be referred to as BRRRRRRRTTTTT
pickmin123
I am an attack helicopter and I prefer the pronouns.. I don't prefer pronouns, I prefer attack helicopters
kraghj
"It"
LanceCorporalCarrotIronfoundersson
Ok, Bert.
ilovecake
Disgruntled3lf
"You can't use that word. Only we can use that word." - A-10
NotaMormonbutlookslikeone
No no, the A-10 goes BRRRRRT An attack helicopter goes SCHEWWW SCHEWWW
Musicosity
The Apache cannon goes bap bap bap bap
NotaMormonbutlookslikeone
I'm talking about Hellfire missiles
rianocerous
How dare you misgender me! Triggered!!!
endfreq
Fight fire with fire
JAFIOI
Ending is near
mikeatike
Well that is how attack helicopters operate.
Catsandbutts
1. Don't roast me, I have a genuine question.. why is it that big of a deal? It's not like it'll make your sentences longer or whatever. May
Rengii
Because it isn't but people just love to bitch about shit.
LosPer
Sorry, this shit feels self centered and manipulative to me. Language is a common tool for interaction, not for making points...
FlatPlutoSociety
It's not a big deal for one very simple reason: didn't happen.
Catsandbutts
Haaaa.
gfox117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiijS_9hPkM
cousteau
The point of pronouns is that they're generic words used in place of nouns; it's pointless to have to learn a new pronoun for each person.
Catsandbutts
I guess. I didn't know words were so hard.
cousteau
It's not that they're hard; it's that if you're going to have a different pronoun for each person you may as well just use their name.
Catsandbutts
2. be hard to get used to. But I mean, we apologize when we get people's pets sexes wrong? We go by nicknames when asked...
miggy372
You usually use him/her when talking to someone else about a person.It'd be annoying to have to explain to every new client y you said zher
Imsmitty3
It's not a big deal. I guess because my coworkers and I were snapped at when we used the word she without us knowing any different.
Catsandbutts
You have a point there. No need to snap. Sorry I didn't even process that.
wadatahmydamie
Mostly because @OP made it up on the spot
WhatRaySay
get the fuck out, are you serious? I have trouble imagining an adult confronting me in that manner
virus64
Personally, I have no problem if they ask, but if snapped at, I'd be petty and purposefully get it wrong until they get over themselves
Kitastrophe
I worked with a woman who would decide she wanted different pronouns every few months. She didn't warn anyone, (1/2)
Kitastrophe
just waited for you to fuck up & throw a fit. Eventually she was fired for doing it in front of clients. Can't say she was trans, just crazy
samvimesbootstheory
If y'all work in customer service, that should be a deal breaker.
Catsandbutts
I have 2 customer service jobs.. so yes.
Ninjainslippers
Thank you. So much hate for something that doesn't affect anyone.
gfox117
actually it is affecting people, a Professor was getting in trouble because he didn't want to do it, they were trying to kill the 1st amend-
gfox117
ment, basically because he was trying to actually have a conversation/debate about it and they went all whiney bitch trying to get him fired
Bliffity
We hate because we naturally tend to hate obnoxious people. Have you ever seen someone being chill about it getting hate by sensible people?
Ninjainslippers
Well, I've got -3 points for this comment for example.
IronicUsername
Yes. You guys constantly upvote content just mocking the concept in general, not just those who are obnoxious about it. Look, I think [1]
Ninjainslippers
Thank you.
IronicUsername
it's like the most minor issue ever. I'll call you "ze" or whatever the fuck else if you ask. It's not a big deal. Why is this an [3]
IronicUsername
every day circlejerk here? The complainers are more obnoxious than that about which they complain. [4]
IronicUsername
alternate pronouns just make things needlessly complicated and don't believe your pronoun needs to describe EXACTLY who you are but [2]
LilSis061016
I have a college acquaintance who now goes by "they." It's harder than I would have thought to adjust.
ultraprison
Same, always embarrassing when I get it wrong. Work in progress though. They're still a friend.
LilSis061016
In this case, I don't think they mind if people get it wrong occasionally. It frustrates me more than I'm embarrassed about it. :)
KharnApproves
What are they a fucking hive mind or something? Did you go to school with hive fleet kraken?
StarbucksHammer
They can be singular or plural.
NeilTysonsAstrophysics
Why not be nice to them and say he or she and if they get irrationally angry, then they are not worth your time.
LilSis061016
Because I don't mind? They don't get mad if people say he or she, but prefer "they," which isn't a big deal.
Setsylarper
I don't see how that's hard to get. I've got a few friends that are either gender fluid or are trans but prefer neutral pronouns for any (1)
Setsylarper
Number of reasons. Haven't run into zhe (which bothers me because I have e no damn idea how to say it) but do use them or they. (2
Setsylarper
They don't get pissy if I fuck up, and while it's kinda weird at first, you just get used to it. I honestly don't get the big deal.
LilSis061016
I think it's like "zee." To me, it just sounds like people pretending to be French (well, take a nap! Zen fire ze missiles!).
Imsmitty3
Can I ask why they changed it? I'm not able to wrap my brain around some of this stuff
bigcheezefartz
You'll probably get fired for being insensitive. Or be sent to a reeducation camp. Btw please refer to me as "your highness".
lemingdriver
Or fired for being a screw up, its easy to see how it would happen.
lemingdriver
A middle manager would say hey your making mistakes we don't have time to retrain you on what you should know. Good bye.
LilSis061016
They define themselves as "genderfluid." I knew them as "Chris" in college ('male'), and they have come out as "Krys" (not 'male') recently.
Imsmitty3
And she wouldn't be appropriate here? Seems like Chris to Krys is going from masculine to feminine? I imagine adjusting to that isn't easy
furiouslumberjack
My friend explained it like this: "if I told you, 'i have a friend I want you to meet because you both love hiking'...>
furiouslumberjack
...then you may say 'oh, when do you want to meet up with them."' Essentially, it's similar to the ease we use a neutral in the face of
LilSis061016
No? I don't really understand, but I can respect what they want . It's an adjustment, but not impossible, and makes them feel comfortable.
dogleaf
Not if they don't identify as female, either. If they go back and forth, it's too hard to know which to use when, so "they" is a good choice
toomanyvegetables
I'll never understand these people. I'm Bi and dress in both genders all the time and I could care less what people call me. Grow up people.
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toomanyvegetables
Yep. It's your right to free speech.
Ninjainslippers
That's great, and also if you were a guy and someone insisted on calling you she all the time, wouldn't that be pretty fucking annoying?
secretsaiyan
They mistake fashion choices for gender
StarbucksHammer
Oh cool I'll go tell that to my gender dysphoria.
nomsdv
Right you don’t care what people call you and that’s fine. Other people do. Wether you agree with them or not the respectful thing is to
nomsdv
Use the name and pronouns they ask you to
howdoiscience
TIL being queer and not identifying as male or female means you're immature.
TerryCrews
Pretty much.
howdoiscience
It's almost like genderqueer people don't associate their sexual orientation with their gender expression or something.
AbstractSquid
Same. Bisexual, a little more on the gay side. I dress in both genders. Could not care less what pronoun you refer to me as
TrustMeImABassist
Same here. Bassist, but I don't even get mad when people asks about my oversized guitar.
AbstractSquid
Your the real MVP man not many are so considerate about over sized guitar issues
ian1035nr
I prefer it when people don't use any pronouns. Because that means they aren't talking to me. And that... That's just bliss.
LadyGeth
I'm so with you on this.
25schmeckles
I wear pants too
meeperton
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with this. If I am a man, and I am just bi, I still consider myself a guy.
FluffyMan93
One of my oldest friends is a transfer woman. When she started transitioning we asked if she wanted us to start using feminine pronouns 1/2
FluffyMan93
She told us she didn't care just respect her wishes as her friends and not to use any derogatory terms. She's really cool though 2/2
Imsmitty3
You. I like you. You're one of the good people.
MicentennialBan
What the fuck do you mean PEOPLE?????!!!!!
toomanyvegetables
How dare you assume I'm human! I'm a moonkin faery nob goblin thank you very much! XD just kidding mate. Thanks!
Theodrian
OOMkin
Vergenbuurg
You're part-goblin?
Zaayl
How the fuck did we go from a entire generation of the message "Dont label me!" to "MOAR LABELS."
TwoHorndUnicorn
This...
LadyGeth
Dude... That's deep
HideyoWifeHideyoKids
Couldn't care less
toomanyvegetables
Thank you. I always fuck that up when I know better.
mikeatike
Maybe they care a little bit.
MicrowaveSafe
Hey did post it to a public site, they obviously care some.
mikeatike
Your comment got posted 12 times, so like Faith No More, you care a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1g9PFtSCKw
MicrowaveSafe
Lol woops.
Furrygorrilamask
I know, and I'm a straight male and can call me anything but late for supper
JelloPutinPops
Dad?
Everythingisracist
As a black guy, I'm just going to start running. I'll bring back milk sometime, yeah?
toomanyvegetables
Oh you mean you're the devil. Shouldn't you be out oppressing people mate? XD I joke.
Furrygorrilamask
Oh, I am out oppressing. Oppressing so goddamn hard
catfishingyourmom
God I hope for all our sake that he's not white....
Furrygorrilamask
Catsandbutts
Sexuality isn't the same thing though.
Catsandbutts
You guys. I'm saying being bisexual isn't the same as identifying as something stupid as zhe or whatever. Please get that in your brains.
Bliffity
If you can show me a human with a third type of genital I'll agree with you. Because it's fucking medical terms.
JustaSchoscher
We humans never seem to celebrate the hermaphrodites :(
Catsandbutts
1. That's NOT what I'm saying. Gender identity isn't the same as sexual preference. OP is talking about what their coworker is identifying
Catsandbutts
2. their gender as, and the commenter brought up being bisexual, what is sexuality. Different things. I think there are only 2 genders, too.
Bliffity
You can't just demand people call your AIDS "SHMAPS" or your hands your "BLUMPERS" because people would think you're stupid.
Bliffity
By all means, go ahead and do it, but be chill about it and flexible about what you're called. That way people won't be annoyed about it.
Catsandbutts
All I'm saying is that sexual preference (bi, straight, gay) isn't the same as gender identity (zhe or whatever) which I think is utter BS.
awesock
Nah gender identity is real, but the normal non-asshole thing is either he she or they and not being rude about mistakes if it isn't obvious
Angylika
So then what 'gender' markers are for Butch? Sounds like a style choice.
Catsandbutts
I'm just saying, you can't compare apples to oranges. I get what the poster was saying,but comparing being bi to someone's gender....
Angylika
Or like OP's example, 'genderfluid'. That means that they sprout a penis or a vag at will?
capnjcook
Gender identity doesn't have to do with genitalia. If a guy lost his dick in a terrible accident, for example, he would still "identify" as
capnjcook
a guy. It's not like he'd go "oh great, guess I'm a woman now".
Angylika
Sorry.... But most Trans people know that it's a mental condition that we suffer with. Making up all this other BS is making a mockery of us
Catsandbutts
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying poster brought up sexual orientation, which isn't the same as gender identity.
toomanyvegetables
I'm not saying it is. I don't Identify as male nor female. But I don't flip out on people not calling me by a word. The world isn't a nice.
toomanyvegetables
The world isn't a safe space. If people wanna call me a faggit, so be it. They have the right as a person to free speech.
Catsandbutts
1. I understand that. I'm a fellow bisexual myself. And of course the world isn't a safe space. The person shouldn't flip put but apples
Catsandbutts
2. and oranges. I don't think it's right they freaked out, but why bring up you're bi?
lllamallamapigbang
So if I thot you were cute, liked you, would u be offended if I asked if you liked dick? Cause I have dick. Gender fluid no bother. 18+ ofc.
Catsandbutts
I get what you're saying, but why bring up apples when you're talking about oranges. Gender identity isn't sexual preference.
toomanyvegetables
I understand that, but that wasn't the focal point. I am genderfluid but people should be allowed to speak how they want.
Catsandbutts
Yes, I agree. I have never disagreed. I'm just trying to understand the relevent of bringing up bisexuality when we aren't talking about it.