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arisahne
Schwarz Weiß wie Schnee...
provencfg
FC ENERGIE COTTBUS!
InAPedoVanDownByTheRiver
VFB Stuttgart!!!!
Ronzl
Borussia Dortmund II, as if one wasn't bad enough
althanan
I'm guessing reddit OP was inspired by this: http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2015/1/14/7500699/east-germany-football
FluffonStuff
As a 1.FCK fan, my life is sad. One day, we'll make it back to the top....
wolfenbones
Went to Bochum Dusseldorf game... Shit was legit. Pogo all over after. Dude knocked out, scarf ripped off and set on fire. Crazy.
OHSger
Eisern Union!
ShabbaLife
take that commies
punforaname
Fortuna Düsseldorf fuck yeah
TrapsAreIllegal
I'm so surprised. Areas with less cash flow don't have rich teams
mooselikestoparty
1FCK! K-Town, son.
quadralol
Just another consequence of a partitioned state.
DarthWTF
Blühende Landschaften indeed...
YellowBedWetter
The financial disparity in soccer is what drives me nuts
BlackBird241
MRW soccer tag
deadsmurfsryumy
1. FCK!
Azraelization
Rheinland-Pfalz 'presenttttttt
jesseboots
FCK!
uc4v
RAH! RAH! FC-KAH!
ThePocketItalian
Mittelinteressant.
AggressivPerfektor
I got to see RWE (Rot-Weiß Erfurt) play and it was fun, but yeah living in East Germany is tough for football fans :(
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
As 2nd Best Korea citizen, I feel you West Germany
Dominian
I hope you will never have to integrate North Korea. East Germany was highly developed in contrast.
DatPicTho
Terrible placement. Some of those are wrong by about 200km
Imyourpapi
Thomas muller said that Bayern munich practice is sometimes more harder then bundesliga matches lmao GERMAN BURN!!
mudkipfucker2
there are only 2 Berlin teams in the 3 leagues?
MadDias
yes and as a german living in berlin: the one in the 1st really sucks no one have to wonder if they go down to 2nd again
There's a couple more in the conference divisions lower down, but yeah, just the two in the top three leagues.
pianomagic
I was really surprised by this aswell.
Yes and they both suck.
theotheleo
yes. A really sharp contrast to London for instance
London has 4 in the top 10 of the EPL. though to be fair, London is a bigger city
patec
Also: In season 10-11 and 12-13 Hertha played in the 2. Bundesliga. So there wasn't a single Berlin team in the Bundesliga.
twerkintrav
I don't really know what I'm looking at
RowdyRacoon
I think these are maps
BakedEoin
Its a map that sows the locations of all the best German football teams, showing which germany they would've been in
uzerok
I'm German and I'm not entirely sure either. It vaguely shows that soccer teams from East Germany appear to be 2nd class.
FightingFurball
It's no wonder when any prospective young football talent can earn 5 to 10 times more money in a west club then in an east club.
NotSoMuch
Any idea what the difference between the two Bundesligas is?
the 2nd league move up to the 1st and so on. 2/2
The 1st league are considered the best teams. The two last placed teams move down to the 2nd league, while the two first placed in the 1/2
Thanks!
DiscoStuforPresident
Best Germany vs Least Germany
svon1
jesmonster
There is actually real prejudice among W Germans against E Germans because the East was under communism after WWII and it was poor.
TwinkleTwinkleLittleShit
As someone from Aachen, this post is a real feels trip...
Theres no Germany like West Germany, it's the best Germany in the land!
DragonflyX1
All Germany is Wurst Germany
MakingUpAUsernameIsTerrifying
Well now I can die happy and fulfilled.
uskglass
"Now I can the happy and fulfilled"? I don't understand...
Took me a second, but then I remembered Sideshow Bob.
Whipcrackincheddar
don't be so facetious, it's nice to see something other than reposts and stills from overrated american sitcoms.
If I can see people make disparaging comments when posts about U.S. sports are posted, I can make dry ones when European sports posts are.
ThaddeusThunderCock
Well said.
idontknowyoufromadam
IMO, it should be either "former West Germany" or "western Germany". Not "West Germany".
West Germany is best Germany. It doesn't rhyme otherwise!
revenfett
When did we stop calling it East Francia?
Around year 962, I think.
Man, talk about keeping me out of the loop...
Guess you'll need to make sure that you're on the distribution list for the quarterly Geographical Renaming updates.
sesamharold
As a german: Yes. I can clearly remember that day.
*German, of course.
LoadedPotatoSkins
might as well just call Bayern Munich the german national team.
Skwiddy
*Buyem Munich
justletmesignupalready
5 of the regular first team are regulars in the German squad. 6, including badstubber, who is the least regular. So, maybe not.
miraquiTOMA
Just because most of the German nat'l players you know are the ones that play for Bayern, doesn't mean that's where all of them are.
GoldTeef4ErrBody
this ^
apocalypseyesterday
You don't know much about this do you?
7/23 memebers of the 2014 squad played for bayern. so shut the fuck up.
SnoopDogeyDoge
7 is not the majority of 23
SuperRockinMrMagic
And pretty much everyone except Lahm will be back for next world cup
FallenBlade
And Mertesacker, and Schweinsteiger
knowyourcompany
Xabi Alonso just like... http://media.tumblr.com/1087c330003234d325753220a866b8a3/tumblr_inline_mmzmniX3861qz4rgp.gif
Yes what with Arjen Robben, Franck Ribery, Robert lewandowski, and medhi benatia
7/23 members of the squad that won the world cup played for bayern at the time.
Supanini
Don't forget Manuel Neuer
jumpinjackoph
He is German the others aren't
Damn.. I knew that. I just a had a major brain fart about what we were discussing
Naters1188
+1 for making a mistake and owning up to it
And, it's like football players WANT to play for the boyhood clubs they supported or live near family.. Crazy!!
3spooky5me
klenkidd
I have a hard time believing that Kroos will ever want to go back to Hansa Rostock or Greifswald FC.
Last time I checked, Kroos wasn't a bayern player.
Last time I checked I was not talking about Bayern.
Well that's what this thread is about..
mioelnir
For all the americans: our top soccer leagues are fluid. The worst teams of every season get relegated to the next league down, while 1/+
TheGramReaper
Relegate the Oakland Raiders
jimcinnabon
I've been arguing for years that this is how american sports should work, but we have no lower league infrastructure in place, so it would
ob32
and the leagues that do have lower leagues use them as a farm system (ie AHL, AAA basebal, D-league basketballl, etc)
Be hard to do.
frattolo
so in every sport in USA if a team is last in the league, it will never go into a lower league the year after? it stays in the first league?
BBRed
For all the Germans: Americans don't care about European sport
a few comments incoming.
Whoah, whoah. Whoah.... Relax there. I don't care much about American sport either. I was merely trying to keep Imgur free of more-e 1/2
more-efficient-than-thou attitude at bay. I have had enough of Germans trying to tell me that their way of doing anything is so fantastic.
How rude. For you, Most of the population of the world give less than a shit about the NFL, NBA, Baseball or NCAA.
Not to mention that your "World Series" of baseball only comprises of american teams.
Calling your superbowl winners "world Champions" is also completely laughable.
I don't think there is a single large international sport that the US dominates Europeans at, nor aussies, kiwis or asian nations.
2/+ their top teams come up. There have been teams from former east germany in the top league, they just could not stick. This is not a
3/3 franchised system, where no top team is there because no owner wants to be there. You stay in the top league by merit, not location.
XiaoMigue
Hum. disagree. Spanish "La liga", tv-rights; 50% for two teams, 50% for 38 teams; those two are there thanks to 150Million/year. Of course,
they are NEVER loosing category. 1 year TV = initial pay + 5 year salary of a top player (Bale, CR7, Neymar, Suarez).
...not entire sure what some TV deal money distribution in the spanish league has to do with the league system in Germany?
NotWithABangButAWhimper
How I explain it to people; it's like if your baseball team sucks so bad they can get knocked down into the minor leagues. The whole team.
cspinasdf
Is there a hard cap limit that each team can pay?
No. If any european league implemented a salary cap on its own, most of its top talent would just leave to a different country/league.
So I'm guessing that Western Germany have teams with larger amounts of money to spend.
Nope. Paris St. German even thwarted plans for taxation of the rich by having players threaten to leave France if they overtaxate income.
Malkiot
You may get up into a better league, but you sure ain't staying there because "money".
tigg0r
Leipzig, Hoffenheim want to disagree with you
There is certainly a home-field advantage to having been in the top league for years.
arisahne
Schwarz Weiß wie Schnee...
provencfg
FC ENERGIE COTTBUS!
InAPedoVanDownByTheRiver
VFB Stuttgart!!!!
Ronzl
Borussia Dortmund II, as if one wasn't bad enough
althanan
I'm guessing reddit OP was inspired by this: http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2015/1/14/7500699/east-germany-football
FluffonStuff
As a 1.FCK fan, my life is sad. One day, we'll make it back to the top....
wolfenbones
Went to Bochum Dusseldorf game... Shit was legit. Pogo all over after. Dude knocked out, scarf ripped off and set on fire. Crazy.
OHSger
Eisern Union!
ShabbaLife
take that commies
punforaname
Fortuna Düsseldorf fuck yeah
TrapsAreIllegal
I'm so surprised. Areas with less cash flow don't have rich teams
mooselikestoparty
1FCK! K-Town, son.
quadralol
Just another consequence of a partitioned state.
DarthWTF
Blühende Landschaften indeed...
YellowBedWetter
The financial disparity in soccer is what drives me nuts
BlackBird241
MRW soccer tag
deadsmurfsryumy
1. FCK!
Azraelization
Rheinland-Pfalz 'presenttttttt
jesseboots
FCK!
uc4v
RAH! RAH! FC-KAH!
ThePocketItalian
Mittelinteressant.
AggressivPerfektor
I got to see RWE (Rot-Weiß Erfurt) play and it was fun, but yeah living in East Germany is tough for football fans :(
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
As 2nd Best Korea citizen, I feel you West Germany
Dominian
I hope you will never have to integrate North Korea. East Germany was highly developed in contrast.
DatPicTho
Terrible placement. Some of those are wrong by about 200km
Imyourpapi
Thomas muller said that Bayern munich practice is sometimes more harder then bundesliga matches lmao GERMAN BURN!!
mudkipfucker2
there are only 2 Berlin teams in the 3 leagues?
MadDias
yes and as a german living in berlin: the one in the 1st really sucks no one have to wonder if they go down to 2nd again
althanan
There's a couple more in the conference divisions lower down, but yeah, just the two in the top three leagues.
pianomagic
I was really surprised by this aswell.
Dominian
Yes and they both suck.
theotheleo
yes. A really sharp contrast to London for instance
mudkipfucker2
London has 4 in the top 10 of the EPL. though to be fair, London is a bigger city
patec
Also: In season 10-11 and 12-13 Hertha played in the 2. Bundesliga. So there wasn't a single Berlin team in the Bundesliga.
twerkintrav
I don't really know what I'm looking at
RowdyRacoon
I think these are maps
BakedEoin
Its a map that sows the locations of all the best German football teams, showing which germany they would've been in
uzerok
I'm German and I'm not entirely sure either. It vaguely shows that soccer teams from East Germany appear to be 2nd class.
FightingFurball
It's no wonder when any prospective young football talent can earn 5 to 10 times more money in a west club then in an east club.
NotSoMuch
Any idea what the difference between the two Bundesligas is?
uzerok
the 2nd league move up to the 1st and so on. 2/2
uzerok
The 1st league are considered the best teams. The two last placed teams move down to the 2nd league, while the two first placed in the 1/2
NotSoMuch
Thanks!
DiscoStuforPresident
Best Germany vs Least Germany
svon1
jesmonster
There is actually real prejudice among W Germans against E Germans because the East was under communism after WWII and it was poor.
TwinkleTwinkleLittleShit
As someone from Aachen, this post is a real feels trip...
Dominian
Theres no Germany like West Germany, it's the best Germany in the land!
DragonflyX1
All Germany is Wurst Germany
MakingUpAUsernameIsTerrifying
Well now I can die happy and fulfilled.
uskglass
"Now I can the happy and fulfilled"? I don't understand...
MakingUpAUsernameIsTerrifying
Took me a second, but then I remembered Sideshow Bob.
Whipcrackincheddar
don't be so facetious, it's nice to see something other than reposts and stills from overrated american sitcoms.
MakingUpAUsernameIsTerrifying
If I can see people make disparaging comments when posts about U.S. sports are posted, I can make dry ones when European sports posts are.
ThaddeusThunderCock
Well said.
idontknowyoufromadam
IMO, it should be either "former West Germany" or "western Germany". Not "West Germany".
Dominian
West Germany is best Germany. It doesn't rhyme otherwise!
revenfett
When did we stop calling it East Francia?
idontknowyoufromadam
Around year 962, I think.
revenfett
Man, talk about keeping me out of the loop...
idontknowyoufromadam
Guess you'll need to make sure that you're on the distribution list for the quarterly Geographical Renaming updates.
sesamharold
As a german: Yes. I can clearly remember that day.
sesamharold
*German, of course.
LoadedPotatoSkins
might as well just call Bayern Munich the german national team.
Skwiddy
*Buyem Munich
justletmesignupalready
5 of the regular first team are regulars in the German squad. 6, including badstubber, who is the least regular. So, maybe not.
miraquiTOMA
Just because most of the German nat'l players you know are the ones that play for Bayern, doesn't mean that's where all of them are.
GoldTeef4ErrBody
this ^
apocalypseyesterday
You don't know much about this do you?
LoadedPotatoSkins
7/23 memebers of the 2014 squad played for bayern. so shut the fuck up.
SnoopDogeyDoge
7 is not the majority of 23
SuperRockinMrMagic
And pretty much everyone except Lahm will be back for next world cup
FallenBlade
And Mertesacker, and Schweinsteiger
knowyourcompany
Xabi Alonso just like... http://media.tumblr.com/1087c330003234d325753220a866b8a3/tumblr_inline_mmzmniX3861qz4rgp.gif
SnoopDogeyDoge
Yes what with Arjen Robben, Franck Ribery, Robert lewandowski, and medhi benatia
LoadedPotatoSkins
7/23 members of the squad that won the world cup played for bayern at the time.
Supanini
Don't forget Manuel Neuer
jumpinjackoph
He is German the others aren't
Supanini
Damn.. I knew that. I just a had a major brain fart about what we were discussing
Naters1188
+1 for making a mistake and owning up to it
justletmesignupalready
And, it's like football players WANT to play for the boyhood clubs they supported or live near family.. Crazy!!
LoadedPotatoSkins
3spooky5me
klenkidd
I have a hard time believing that Kroos will ever want to go back to Hansa Rostock or Greifswald FC.
justletmesignupalready
Last time I checked, Kroos wasn't a bayern player.
klenkidd
Last time I checked I was not talking about Bayern.
justletmesignupalready
Well that's what this thread is about..
mioelnir
For all the americans: our top soccer leagues are fluid. The worst teams of every season get relegated to the next league down, while 1/+
TheGramReaper
Relegate the Oakland Raiders
jimcinnabon
I've been arguing for years that this is how american sports should work, but we have no lower league infrastructure in place, so it would
ob32
and the leagues that do have lower leagues use them as a farm system (ie AHL, AAA basebal, D-league basketballl, etc)
jimcinnabon
Be hard to do.
frattolo
so in every sport in USA if a team is last in the league, it will never go into a lower league the year after? it stays in the first league?
BBRed
For all the Germans: Americans don't care about European sport
Skwiddy
a few comments incoming.
BBRed
Whoah, whoah. Whoah.... Relax there. I don't care much about American sport either. I was merely trying to keep Imgur free of more-e 1/2
BBRed
more-efficient-than-thou attitude at bay. I have had enough of Germans trying to tell me that their way of doing anything is so fantastic.
Skwiddy
How rude. For you, Most of the population of the world give less than a shit about the NFL, NBA, Baseball or NCAA.
Skwiddy
Not to mention that your "World Series" of baseball only comprises of american teams.
Skwiddy
Calling your superbowl winners "world Champions" is also completely laughable.
Skwiddy
I don't think there is a single large international sport that the US dominates Europeans at, nor aussies, kiwis or asian nations.
mioelnir
2/+ their top teams come up. There have been teams from former east germany in the top league, they just could not stick. This is not a
mioelnir
3/3 franchised system, where no top team is there because no owner wants to be there. You stay in the top league by merit, not location.
XiaoMigue
Hum. disagree. Spanish "La liga", tv-rights; 50% for two teams, 50% for 38 teams; those two are there thanks to 150Million/year. Of course,
XiaoMigue
they are NEVER loosing category. 1 year TV = initial pay + 5 year salary of a top player (Bale, CR7, Neymar, Suarez).
mioelnir
...not entire sure what some TV deal money distribution in the spanish league has to do with the league system in Germany?
NotWithABangButAWhimper
How I explain it to people; it's like if your baseball team sucks so bad they can get knocked down into the minor leagues. The whole team.
cspinasdf
Is there a hard cap limit that each team can pay?
mioelnir
No. If any european league implemented a salary cap on its own, most of its top talent would just leave to a different country/league.
cspinasdf
So I'm guessing that Western Germany have teams with larger amounts of money to spend.
Dominian
Nope. Paris St. German even thwarted plans for taxation of the rich by having players threaten to leave France if they overtaxate income.
Malkiot
You may get up into a better league, but you sure ain't staying there because "money".
tigg0r
Leipzig, Hoffenheim want to disagree with you
mioelnir
There is certainly a home-field advantage to having been in the top league for years.