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https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania/kids-for-cs-michael-conahan-20200623.html
Saw this post (https://imgur.com/gallery/QKYRl5I) on the front page from @Xlxtx and decided to read more about the situation. This news article was the first thing that popped up in the results.
Can anyone explain to me why people are getting sent home from prison because of covid concerns and others aren't? I am sure there are SOME legitimate cases for this, but largely it seems like blatant corruption. Not being flippant - I legitimately want to know.
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
SpiderProof
He's non violent, so I'd say transferring him to house arrest with electronic monitoring should work, then put him back in prison after.
whatshappeninghere
Just learned about this piece of shit of a human being yesterday, read today's news aaaand he's gone. Stone-ish vibes over here
Ac1dBurn72
Has anyone seen Frank Castle around? We kinda need him for shit like this.
Stntmx
The justice system in the US is about anything but justice.
trs2
Fuck this motherfucker and fuck the people who released him. Oh and just to throw one more on the pile, fuck you Trump.
UrsulatheArtist
Fuck him! Send him back!
IShouldProbablyReadMore
How is he ever getting out of prison after ruining lives?
MacClay
The rich and powerful don't have to deal with the same legal system the rest of us do.
martycos
This is disgraceful. He is a monster.
Yesisaidthat
This guy murdered the innocents of hundreds of kids. Throw him back.
idontknowmaybeno
Wtf? These high powered criminals get released from prison due to Covid 19. But it's safe enough for kids to go back to school.
kojenk
Its bulsbit because they live cushy in rich prison compared to poorer non violent inmates in shit conditions who are at real risk.
iAintUrPal
We need a Punisher type scenario to happen.
AnonymousBach
Wish the legal system had been as concerned about his victims health as they are about his.
austensilver
This guy should be doing life, he ruined so many kids’ futures.
sauronater
Someone should've offed him the moment that he got out of jail
Someshithead241
Its things like this that lead me to genuinely wonder if America is actually going to survive this. I mean half a million people dead,
Someshithead241
Your populus is going mental and rioting. Pestilence, Famine and War. All that's left is Death. Complete and utter death.
brickius
Corona is death for the poor and a get out of jail free card for the rich
7hatsBollocks
That's always been the case in America, Covid19 just made it so glaring that even the blind are starting to see it. (Not the gop though.)
Jandegrote
Pretty sure the rich had a get out of jail free card for the past few years not just during corona.
kojenk
Especially given how comfortable his cell would have been vs a poor persons. This was an excuse to release.
Jusuko
I work in a jail (albeit in Canada). We are releasing anyone and everyone we can to try to keep our numbers down. There are rarely good...
Jusuko
Candidates. So we have to consider a lot of things (ex: public safety and housing). Unfortunately, this means that people like this scum...
Jusuko
Bag are more likely to get released. They are less likely to reoffend and can actually take care of themselves instead of ending up homeless
henryvk
How's the collapse going, America?
whitebbwolf
just fine apparently
Djkb6718
Some fools would tell you it's going GREAT!!!!! not me tho, I'm scared and sad about things.
Smagalicious
Like shit. Looking to move to Canada or Australia. I have marketable skills! Please let me in! Pleeeeeeese!!
Sinasohn
Right on schedule.
ThatOtherTransGirl
Lefties like me are getting owned pretty hardcore. We wanted equity for minorities and they showed us by burning the US down. Marvelous.
SpaceBoyInSpace
Scary af
Beleg7
The thing is, Covid concerns in prisons are 100% percent valid. But the only reasonable response to that is to either release everyone or...
Beleg7
... completely revamp the prison system. Instead we're just selectively releasing heinous white collar criminals.
Sc2Argentum
Seriously, if covid was a concern they'd release the guys busted with a few grams of weed, not the corrupt judge selling kids
McMeowenstein
You guys need to protest the blatant corruption in your country.
MrBobSaget
As if this sort of crap doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. Corruption doesn't have a flag.
Sinasohn
Been doing that. Unfortunately, it just leads to more PoCs getting killed and put in jail and so on.
thefatb0b
We've been protesting for a month now. What do you do when that stops working
Anonymous0199846
persistence. Violence works against regimes, but 2/5ths of our population (mostly by age) really doesn't support BLM. /
Anonymous0199846
That's too big of a problem for violence to solve; so you keep trying to get the 2/5 to see their own problem. (or just age out)
koalarock
We are, it unfortunately does very little to stop it.
ImplodingPumpkin
Our leaders said they should be tougher on protesters.
koalarock
Because our leaders want to continue to be blatantly corrupt.
Anonymous0199846
When they work, peaceful protests hold a mirror up to show oppressors how cruel they are. Then they desire to change that, so they do.
Anonymous0199846
When they fail... you get the CCP and wish you had been violent. I don't think it's really possible to know in advance which will happen.
BanderasForScale
Someone should [redacted] him.
MrBobSaget
New TV show idea: Trial lawyer, fed up with the system goes rogue, delivering justice to criminals. When he kills someone he says something
MrBobSaget
witty related to legal jargon like, "You've been... redacted."
linearcore
That's basically the plot of Daredevil, without all that pesky conscience stuff.
downwiththesystem
"Innocent verdict... overruled."
MrBobSaget
"Acquit this [blam!]"
kickmyballsrealhard
Fuck that guy, give him corona on purpose
only90skidswillgetthis
Takes a bed from someone more deserving. We're going to need those beds
Anonymous0199846
no. We do not use disease as a punishment. Right and wrong are very squishy concepts to me, and even I know that's definitely wrong.
7hatsBollocks
Fair enough. Just don't use Covid19. There are many many more methods that hurt worse.
kickmyballsrealhard
I don’t give a fuck, justice must be served. Kids committed suicide cuz this guy ruined their lives so he could line his pockets. Fuck him
Anonymous0199846
It’s not about what happens to him; it’s about what we do. Someone once said “fuck those criminals, no free ride, make them work” ...
Anonymous0199846
When do we start saying “fuck the prisoners, let’s test vaccine candidates on them.” And then one day... so we draw lines about who we /
Anonymous0199846
Will and will not become; and we don’t kill people with diseases.
Linkleismyspiritanimal
Does anyone have a lead on a Death note? Anyone? Things would be a lots easier if someone knows a Shinigami that has a spare one to give to
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Linkleismyspiritanimal
Someone with morals to help with all the corruption. Isn’t the rules of the death note able to dictate what they do before they die? So all
Linkleismyspiritanimal
The crap people write “donates all wealth to charity, does good deeds for rest of life, dies saving someone else.” It’s be a start to good
KylasLaFey
Not quite, you can only control them up to 28 days before death.
Linkleismyspiritanimal
Hmm, that’s right. Well, for people of this level of crap, 28 days of good deeds is better than nothing
chukichi
That rule has to be within reason, though--would truly terrible, garbage people do good deeds? Also, a human that used a DN is cursed to 1/
chukichi
become a shinigami, too. I wouldn't mind trying, though. 2/2
Tarrif
Honestly how is this sick motherfucker even still alive. He destroyed the lives of thousands of kids, some who killed themselves.
SchlappaDaBass
It's so fucked up
Madderrs
Paging Mr. Castle.
whitebbwolf
PixelSprite64
Well the good news is that he's probably under considerably less protection now than he has been. Just need someone to take the opportunity.
anxiouschef
Yeah I’m always surprised when I see shit like this and they don’t get popped. People kill people for less. That mom should grow castor bean
sloanPHILLIPS
Blunt force lead poisoning might be quicker, but I like your spirit!
sloanPHILLIPS
Because our justice system is paid for and our people are defeated cowards who kowtow to wealthy oligarchs
ilovegooooold
The entire political system is paid for. It's so fucked.
sloanPHILLIPS
But how about those Marvel movies though? Would have never been possible without corporate consolidation. 1/2
sloanPHILLIPS
We don’t a working social welfare system and our youth are being sacrificed for war profits, but have you seen those Thor memes? Delightful!
Anonymous0199846
I ponder this: there are societies that do better than ours in these matters, how did they get there? (to better)? can we copy them?
ilovegooooold
Educate and vote. 2 good documentaries on it on netflix of Robert Reich.
sloanPHILLIPS
The pattern usually goes: The workers in those countries faced hardship and held their leaders accountable.
sloanPHILLIPS
I don’t know if we’ll ever reach a tipping point in this country, especially since corpo-controlled mass culture is designed to inspire 1/2
sloanPHILLIPS
fear and reduce one’s sense of agency. 2/2
Anonymous0199846
So cancel culture and google workers threatening to quit over facial recognition? Those are the pillars of the path forwards?
IntelligentLake
Usually people sent home are non-violent criminals. I think its still bad though, but fortunatly I don't run the world.
Xlxtx
dommen
Well he spent 24 years in prison at least and I bet he got what he deserved...
cjandstuff
Cut internet/cable and government checks, and this will happen. A few hundred thousand evictions might do it soon as well.
Bridgiebird
I'm beginning to think this maybe our only option soon here in the US. Except it should be Congress or the Whitehouse. Whichever
MindTheGap7
You mean senate
thesuperrippednobody
I suspect they’re referring to the capitol building, but if they mean the legislative branch as a whole, congress works
Bridgiebird
Yes, sorry.
Hezaethox
SnarfyMcSnarferson
I think the proper course would be to burn down the White House after the current infestation
MindTheGap7
Or all 3
Niggler21
not my country but i would be fucking revolting
TheWheelIsSpinningButTheMouseIsDead
Not my country either. Is it possible to import some french people to get the americans going? Once it starts, it's like riding a bike IMO
Commentmeister
They did help remove Tyranny from America once b4 they can do it again
aaronnorman922000
That is all we needed last time if I have my history right.
TheMeatIncident
Can we start a go fund me to hire a pro footballer to kick him in the nuts?
i2ocker89
If you are going to assault him may as well just cut his nuts right off with a rusty piece of metal
NoNoNodontstoparockin
I suggest Greg "The Leg" Zuerlein for the kickings
bloodydingo
Let's have a horse do it. Pay them in oats.
IAmAnthonyStark
They can’t put book a horse on battery charges eithe
IAmAnthonyStark
r
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Just let the parents and kids take turns. Each kick would be weaker, but there would be hundreds of them. For hours. And it's free.
mmmerf1
Like... Hourly?
Bureaucromancer
I really can't think of anyone I hate on a personal level more than this guy.
Thephedora
I'd throw in some cash.
TK421isAFK
I'd rather hire somebody like Ted Bundy to go to work on this guy's nuts.
Bridgiebird
Yes! Please!
METROlD
Importaku
Forget the nuts try the face
linearcore
I know a couple people we could call.
Sec109
Can we take from him the years he took from kids?
highnatized
He doesn't have that many years left
Sec109
Big brain on brad
TavisMcNamara
Guess he'll die. Such a shame. How will we ever cope.
3006mv
I’ll do it for free.
imgurianitarian
And my axe.
BigDickJesus
Is this the line to kick that dude in the nuts?
Smagalicious
goodluckeverybodyelse
Yeah but then they might put you on trial for assault. Let us at least pay the bail fees for doing your civic duty.
Snooj
I'd pay you regardless.
MarioBoon
Never do what you're good at for free!
MrBobSaget
yea, but your leg power doesn't compare to a pro footballer.
Anglosvm
I played football for 9 years growing up and walk everywhere now, I don't mind giving it a go
clevernametom
I’ll do it for free and start training my right leg daily.
whitebbwolf
also the fund will be for the legal defence
3006mv
It’ll get the job done. I don’t mind having to do multiple kicks
sarahdamozel11
I'll help.
TavisMcNamara
Can we start a queue?
UnriskyBusiness
I'm guessing that all those in jail for marijuana possession offenses were also sent home, right?
theshinobi23
AFAIK, many areas were supposed to release most or all of their nonviolent offenders and put them on house arrest or parole or something.
ChainmailleAddict
Jail From Home
Vaanhalen
Yeah. As well as rapists and murderers. It's really insane and has everything to do with is the judge on your case an activist. Oh also the
Vaanhalen
SC released a killer serving a 500 year sentence for literally the dumbest reason possible. How do you get a 500y sentence? Start by murder-
Vaanhalen
-ing babies by raping them to death like you're literally The Mountain, and it gets worse. That guy is free too.
jamiedBreaker
Actually a good question... how many others, if any, were sent home from the same place? Down the rabbit hole we go...
TavisMcNamara
If you find anything tell us.
SunAnvil
Yes, absolutely........
70617373776f7264
What are you crazy?!?! Of course they weren't, those are "serious" "crimes"
irrelevantname
I was in lowest security prison (called camps) with a large scale pot offender (8 year sentence) who was denied a furlough to attend his 1/?
irrelevantname
only sons funeral. After they denied him (blanket denying all furloughs) they placed him on suicide watch for a month. That's solitary 2/?
irrelevantname
confinement BTW which is in a 6 x 8 cell. Camps are open campuses with long house style quarters. It crushed him and those close to him. 3/3
theshinobi23
Right guys? *crickets chirping* ....guys?
MrBobSaget
Are you referring to the kids he put in jail, or people who are in jail for marijuana in general? If the former, the PA supreme court
UnriskyBusiness
In general. They shouldn't be in jail in the first place and should be released over virus concerns as well.
MrBobSaget
oh i agree, just wanted to clarify.
jjsjosCreator
i mean that is great but really it should be federal. i think canada is working on pardons for pot offences .
onthe6ball
state convictions need a state pardon or commute.
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Non violent pop possession should just be wiped from record. Employers can judge on that even though its now legal
MrBobSaget
re visited the cases a few years ago it seems, and released (some, most, all?) of the people whom he sentences
MrBobSaget
Sentenced.
slinkiisu
Except the one who shot himself in the heart
MegaIlluminati
I am confused. Why is virus both serious enough to release these scums and also not serious to open schools?
i2ocker89
I kid you not I am currently looking into applying for residency in canada. Fuck America's Government. Sick of our oligarchy
thelostcarrot
I mean at this point it's cash for kids part 2
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Not everything is actually about the virus. Some people are just using it as an excuse to do the things they wanted to do anyway.
WelllllIllBeDamned
Money
MindTheGap7
Money
HighMagosSquidward
That's pretty much the question.
HeywouldJablowme
Because fascism
Vaanhalen
Age
Ranos17
It's not, they're only using this weird excuse they get all their mob friends out of jail.
brownribbon
It’s not the same people making these decisions.
cazkey
Only white people.
heywoodjabme
If we can do Home Depot and we can do ??????? we can do jails.
CriticalMinne
They have the best lawyers, that's why
SarcasticComment
"Serious for me,not for thee"
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
It's a big ass world comprised of billions of different people who all act on their own in response to covid. The consensus is that covid
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
is a serious issue and people will use it however they can to benefit themselves.
swanglemydangle
More Dead people = lower unemployment rate
Rhe0no
Profit > People, it's an American value.
VodkaReindeer
You forget that keeping people in prison is profitable but keeping kids in school costs money.
Rhe0no
I did not forget, you assumed. Everything in America is for "sale", children are no exception. Profit > People, and people don't care.
davidgrhodes24
It's all about draining the swamp. This is the part where you set all the swamp monsters free to terrorize again.
RootMeanSqr
Republicans
HrafnKaur
Children and tax payers don’t have quite enough money to lubricate the system.
rollerskateorgies
Because the curtains have been drawn for a while. They don't need justification for their corruption. They've been testing the waters bit
rollerskateorgies
by bit for years, and it looks like US citizens will roll over for any corruption at all. The only thing that got them off the couch was
rollerskateorgies
killing a man on camera. They've found the line they can't cross, anything else seems fair game. Buckle up, guys. I'm sorry.
LokJok
Because the US is a purely corrupt country. The people choose to tolerate corruption because stupidity, fear, and cultish loyalty.
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
ThisIsAmerica.gif
nrcoyote
I'm more interested how they're safer at home than in controlled areas with limited (and, hopefully, screened and investigated) visitors.
SpanishBiscuit
Because the children have parents who are exposed to others. Eventually one will be exposed and then bring it to school exposing others.
nrcoyote
I actually meant the prisoners, lol
SpanishBiscuit
Well, reasonably they'll have less exposure to others in tight quarters so lower risk. But the special treatment is bullshit.
Rogahar
Because rich people are better than us, duh.
Stefnos
becaus pedo's protect each other
brownribbon
What?
IronyEnoughForTheIronClub
Unlike many previous pandemic-threat viruses, the mortality rate vs age graph for COVID isn't U-shaped. Older adults are at much higher risk
IronyEnoughForTheIronClub
My bad, writing a serious response to question that was apparently just meant to be hyperbolic / inflammatory. Nuance is dead.
SarcasticComment
Also, sincerly fuck any grandparent stepping up to raise their baby's baby because of the damage the opioid crisis did to families.
LordHosk
And whats the average age of school staff in the US (checks) huh 46... with approximately 1/3rd of teachers less than 3 years from college.
LordHosk
So if we take out the 30% in their mid 20s... that puts the remaining average staff members age at... huh... 59, thats not high risk at all.
SarcasticComment
So. Teachers are expendable, as are administrators, janitors... but not connected white collar criminals that need to be protected.
EmotionallyMagnificient
yeah yeah, I'm sure you're real 'confused' about it. Panderer
itsthevoiceman
Or the virus is serious enough to release him, but not a vast majority of non-violent, low level, offenders.
VodkaReindeer
A larger percentage of prisoners get infected than students.
VodkaReindeer
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-10/california-to-release-about-8-000-prisoners-to-ease-virus-spread
LordHosk
Wait you mean a larger percentage of prisoners in prison, got infected, while in prison... than students at home when schools were closed?
VodkaReindeer
Reckon 50% of students wouldn't be infected even if they went to school.
VodkaReindeer
But I may have to ask Sweden about that.
GoodKingFuzzwumps
Because the more money you have or dirt you have on someone the more importanter you is.
Peddler32
Welcome to Trump's America
Peddler32
Ironically he's become the president that best represents our messed up capitalist nation.
Madmooch
I think heads need to start rolling
MistoKat
I'll get the guillotine
Draco4472
Best use of a stimulus check.
Baughr
Start a kick starter
DocEternal
Oh my god I actually want to do this now. I’m going to start looking for places in DC that might accept it as an art installation.
SkypeOfCthulhu
Because the further away in time the guillotines gets, the more brazen the bastards get.
DocEternal
It’s only been like 50 years though! Star Wars was in theaters the last time one was used.
iamthisguy247
Because we need to protect our number one asset, corrupt criminals. They are the future.
Magjee
Power protects the wealth of capital, not the lives of labour
Photeus
No. Old Men. Old men are the FUTURE!
iamthisguy247
Old WHITE men are the futures.
nikkilaurakevin365
Yes because the United States government does not give a shit about its citizens and that starts at the top with the orange face twatwaffle
willbailey226131415
Lol twatwaffle love that
nikkilaurakevin365
:-)
saboten13
Because the US is more corrupt than Africa
whywait
JackIsLacking
Because corruption.
admweirdbeard
In both cases
CaptainMinority
Because Republicans (mostly)
FrogDelay
I’m ready to burn this whole fucking country down. With all these old ass rich white guys in it. Who’s in
BigDickJesus
Time to eat the rich?
rowm
One train
unnecessaryweevil
NotTheSharpestSpoonInTheDrawer
Don't eat spoilt meat, you'll get sick. Just put them up against the wall.
DeliveryBoyPhillipJFry
Will in the ground work? Not all of us can afford our own walls mr millionaire.
NotTheSharpestSpoonInTheDrawer
I'm sure someone will lend you their wall, sharing is caring.
HighSorcerer
Why get the wall dirty when there are perfectly good chasms to huck them into?
whatstherush
Why ruin a perfectly good chasm when you can incinerate them?
DeepFriedMemesExclusively
How rich is eat the rich, rich?
LurkerOfDarkness
Will your offspring ever need to work, spend wisely, or ever worry about money, if no.... bon appetit.
unnecessaryweevil
Id prefer this: do you willingly return your appropriated wealth to the workers who you exploited to create it? If no, gulag for you.
MrBobSaget
Because everything sucks, nothing makes sense, and 2020 is an abyss from which we cannot look away.
ImplodingPumpkin
But can you imagine how much worse it would be if Clinton took office. I'm I right or am I 4 years too late on that hate train. /S
Tyaldan
Call it what it is tho. republicans have been fucking america for decades and the bill came due with nothing in the bank but empty air.
echonite
If it doesn't make sense, then you are not part of the corruption circle.
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
This is not the truth we want, but the truth we need.
fritztheretriever
The only sense it makes is for the very very wealthy and their friends.
afroniner
Thanks Drew Carey/Aisha Tyler
TheSexInstructor
I feel like I'm missing something here
afroniner
Whose line is it anyway, where the points are made up and nothing matters, and the winner is chosen at random.
TheSexInstructor
HaloArchitect
If this is what things are like with the swamp drained, I for one would like to fill the swamp back up. :-(
WineWomenAndSong
Drained the fresh water and filled it with salt water. End of the day, the swamp is still a swamp.
HaloArchitect
4/ Standard if the American Dream is really going to work. Anything else will lead to the corruption that existed under Communist Europe.
ThatWeirdishGuy
Rather than drain the swamp they decided to fill it with so many alligators there wouldn’t be room left for swamp
HaloArchitect
3/ Basically, any member of the justice system who has committed a crime based on their role within that system *must* be held to a higher
HaloArchitect
Actually, thinking about it, he shouldn't be let out until everyone he sentenced has also been let out, barring proven violent offenders.
isolateredux
No, no. You didn't need a conditional clause there. The total misery he's caused in years is vastly more than a single human lifespan.
HaloArchitect
1/ The condition was for a minimum, and I stand by it, but love your improvement. My point was that the violent offenders were probably
HaloArchitect
2/ likely to be people who would have been incarcerated by an impartial judge, and that they should require more review before release. 140c
WeeHuaHua
Agreed! Add those bullshit sentences together and he can serve the sum.
UnriskyBusiness
Because in jails, social distanciation, increased hygiene measures, masks, etc are not easily implemented.
pakz
As expected, the only comment that is trying to give a serious answer is downvoted. Good job, Imgur..
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
He's right, but misses the point by a mile. Why not release all nonviolent minor offenses, then? Why are the president's friends and 1/
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
high-level white-collar crooks being released? 2/2
JuggernaughtJoe
Why aren't all pisoners that aren't violent being released? Litteraly no one has mentioned anyone getting released who wasn't high profile.
VodkaReindeer
Getting mentioned is the definition of high profile, isn't it?
VodkaReindeer
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-10/california-to-release-about-8-000-prisoners-to-ease-virus-spread
gettodachoppaa
Now if only we could get a federal response, and maybe many others would follow suit. Oh yeah, Trump only releases criminals loyal to him.
bcpmoon
I suppose all inmates ages 65+ will be released?
VodkaReindeer
Non-violent prisoners near the end of their sentence.
MegaIlluminati
And school they are?
UnriskyBusiness
Well, yeah. Inmates can't wear masks, they can't be at 6ft from one another, they don't have access to sanitizing gel, etc...
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Too fucking bad. Especially for this guy.
malicart
All 3 of these things have solutions.
VodkaReindeer
Considering how fast it's spreading in American prisons, I think we can rule out using any solutions.
malaroo
In movies, there's always that one guy who tries to act like he's being reasonable as he helps destroy the world. In real life, that's you.
UnriskyBusiness
Nothing less than destroying the world.
MegaIlluminati
Given the school funding and kids behaviors, is it even practical to think that school can have reasonable precautions?
UnriskyBusiness
6ft, you can forget about it. The rest is just a matter of funding. Should be easily fixed, right?
VodkaReindeer
Schools have soap (I assume) not all Americans prisons do.
IHateCakeDays
Teacher can arrange masks and soaps to kids like all other supplies, prisons would lose profit for doing that /s