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housev1l
Frantic Bees: Where does it keep going??!
athodyd
This is when bees get an engineering degree. Bees with MBAs work for their dad's car dealership a year before running for city council
magicbryanconnolly
Much more fun using an extractor.
WeightBiasResearch
Master of BEEsness Administration!!
BeneGesseritConspiracyTheorist
M.Bee.A
vaguenunconvincing1
The most amazing thing about this is that there are open jars of honey without a single bug in it. What about ants, flies and the bees??
euphoriamint
Putting bees in plastic hives is a bad idea- they're sensitive to chemicals. Source - apiarist.
CheeseborgarSoop
Yeah let the fucking baby get Botulism and then die.
cbale2000
alazyamerican
So the hive has an outhouse.
buttbuttpartywagon
Imagine getting one of these and Hornets move in
cravenmoorhead
Mmmm.. get that Spicy Hornet Honey
Khrome
I'd tap that
sleeek
Caw1988
lncorrectGrammerNazi
alaskangoth
Bees: “what the hell! I try and try and try to fill up this comb but there’s a leak somewhere!”
ICantFightPiratesWithoutCoffee
I want one, but they're so expensive. :( Good for backyard beekeepers though who only have one or two hives.
Pizzzzzza
"My syrup!" - the bees
usedtobeanotherusername
Oh, bee-hive...
darksidetheatre
Bee wax is like an air filter; beekeepers open the hive to make sure the comb hasn't turned black from pollution which can make bees sick
darksidetheatre
So it's not totally "maintenance free" if you care for bee health, & every time you break the wax chambers to pour honey, there's some loss
darksidetheatre
cuz bees take up more energy to remake the wax than to produce honey. not the worst small project, but no good for beekeepers
LickFury
Sweet
nxent
un-bee-lievable
Jazzbuh
$570 for a kid? That’s cheap
PommedeTerreur
$570? That's a lot of Cheddar.
CaverExtrordinaire
Tbh it's not much more than any other hive but takes a huge amount out of the work
ICantFightPiratesWithoutCoffee
I literally just spent $35 dollars on a used traditional hive yesterday. It's very expensive. But great for backyard beekeepers.
Ilovestormswolvesbees
Sell some honey to your friends a couple times and make your money back
JacksonsDaddy
Bold of you to assume I have friends
RohgensArtwork
Sell it to your enemies for duble the price !
Ilovestormswolvesbees
Aww. I’m sorry ❤️ hugs
JacksonsDaddy
Nah, its cool. I have lots of friends. You just don't know them. They're from... another state.
puurgenieten
bees dont cont
Totallyscrewedinaustin
That's cool! How do you clean it?
SpaceMusician
ya don't have to. any drips stay in the hive, the bees clean it up.
ath1337e
But is there waste? Bees probably poop or do something of a similar degree.
MySecretUsername
If you eat it, is that a problem?
BadDragon1193
For serious?
VanDerGroot
Yes.
BadDragon1193
That is cool!
darkphoenix2605
Bees are really clean. They even take care of their waste and throw out the dead bodies to keep to give clean and disease free.
bakedpotoooooooo
That’s awesome. I learned an interesting fact today ?
bubblebreathdragon
I have something in common with bees now...
brekko
Please be the former bee fact
bubblebreathdragon
The former can only be true if the latter is also true. I mean what do you with YOUR dead bodies???
bakedpotoooooooo
From the depths of the webs and the silliness of imgur. Our reactions differ, but our value is the same. We are the two kinds of people.
nicouk
You throw out dead bodies on the regular?
kEMup
Can't let em stack up unless you are going to build a fort.
AwkwardlyUncomfortable
You DONT?
MySecretUsername
PET Plastic
notacobra
Australian bees, for reasons apiarists are completely bewildered by, do not like these hives. Only Australian bees.
JackBurtonandthePorkChopExpress
It was first developed by a guy on a hippie commune near Byron Bay (Australia)
wdlkd55
Crush-strain method. Interesting
wdlkd55
Not only Australian bees. There are different species of bees in America that don't like to use the plastic comb.
Nebbo
Those are really bad for the bees apparently.
Smge
Doesn't seems any worse than regular collection.
wdlkd55
It is. It actually takes a lot more work to resuse a flow hive comb than it does to recap used, natural frames that have been harvested.
flamingflamingo
How?
VodkaReindeer
Don't they smoke out the bees real good when collecting the honey usually? Maybe they prefer that to this. Humans like to smoke, after all.
Shutupandpour
Bees are smoked cause it makes them think the hive is on fire and they get busy eating honey, to save it, and are too busy to sting you.
VodkaReindeer
Sounds even more like smoking weed.
magicbryanconnolly
Nope, the extracted honey is kept in the supers. You basically put a one way door in to allow bees down but not back up. Then just take the
magicbryanconnolly
Frames out, uncap them and spin the honey out. Have never squished a bee extracting.
drunkcat
Didn't flow hives get exposed as terrible for bees?
PotatoThunder
I believe I read that as well.
kamikazehindenburg
From what I can see after about 20 minutes on google is that the primary problem is that it brought a wave a new beekeepers that didn't 1/2
kamikazehindenburg
know what they were doing. If you do know how to raise bees and what appropriate harvests are they seem to work fine.
BearPerson
They encourage skimping on hive inspections, which makes breeding grounds for parasites, risking disease spread even into maintained hives.
wdlkd55
Yes they did. Flow hives are no bueno.
drowninginthesouth
Why? I haven't heard that, so now I'm curious.
wdlkd55
A couple different reasons Some bees dont like plastic frames and they are deep enough if not properly maintained that bees will lay brood
wdlkd55
(4) the water content in the honey too high where the honey ferments and rots.
drowninginthesouth
Bees are interesting. Thanks for the info
wdlkd55
No problem! One of the best thing about bee keeping is the constant learning and teaching! ?
wdlkd55
(2)Additionally, it fosters honey robbing where other bees will come in and raid the hive, and so many people who don't know how to care for
wdlkd55
(3) bees to buy them and they don't maintain the hive properly and end up taking too much honey leading to starvation or too early making
13Alpha
I read somewhere that honey from a flow hive won't keep as well as other honeys. Don't know if it's true.
SpaceMusician
Only reason I could think of is it doesn't have wax in it, so you don't have to heat it up.
whereintheworldisfozziebear
Honey is honey. It's made in exactly the same way as any other way, plus, honey really doesn't spoil... so you're good.
PandaBearSoup
No. Honey is water and sugar. Too much water and it will spoil. Bees cap cells at <18% after evaporating with wings.
whereintheworldisfozziebear
Here, smarter people wrote this: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-behind-honeys-eternal-shelf-life-1218690/
GuideWire
That's coming from the competitors....
ikeepbees
Yes this can happen with flow hives. You cant tell from the side widow if all the honey in the frame is completed. If enough nectar gets 1/
ikeepbees
in then the water content will be high enough for bacteria to ruin the honey.
wdlkd55
EXACTLY
IHaveAForest
My dad has one. Freshly tapped honey has a delicious floral flavor. But it keeps forever.
PandaBearSoup
No. Honey is water and sugar. Too much water and it will spoil. Bees cap cells at <18% after evaporating with wings.
IHaveAForest
I mean... I wasn't arguing with anything. It has a flavor. And its delicious. That was what I was trying to say
PandaBearSoup
Well you disputed by saying "it keeps forever". Which is not necessarily true, given my fact.
IHaveAForest
It crystallizes. At which point it gets even better. It does keep for like... ever
wdlkd55
It's true. The reason is you can't see if it's capped and ready, thus rot. Flow hives are bad for bees.
Vikingalchemist
Bees fill from the center out, if the edge is full, the whole frame is full.
wdlkd55
I've personally seen bees cap one side and the center of a frame and not the other, if you don't open the hive and look, you'll miss it.
PandaBearSoup
Just because a cell is full doesn't mean it is capped.
Vikingalchemist
True, but you can see the caps
skooterLaughin
That is literally the stupidest thing I've read on the internet today.
PandaBearSoup
Honey is water and sugar. Too much water and it will spoil. Bees cap cells at <18% after evaporating with wings.
skooterLaughin
Also pouring the honey in concentrated sulphuric acid will spoil it. In its natural form; no.
PandaBearSoup
Please go buy a pint of honey, add a quarter cup of water, and report results. In finished honey the water content is too low for bacteria..
skooterLaughin
Please go buy a beehive then try and contrive to get spoilt honey out of it. This is the case we are discussing after all.
CanadianLadyMoose
Honey can never expire. Expiry dates on honey is for the plastic container it’s stored in :)
PandaBearSoup
Honey is water and sugar. Too much water and it will spoil. Bees cap cells at <18% after evaporating with wings.
13Alpha
But it can ferment/rot if collected too early.
wdlkd55
Bingo
CanadianLadyMoose
I don’t know why your being downvoted cause this seems like valuable information. Sauce?
m0unstr0
if honey crystallizes just put the jar in warm water, it'll flow again
wdlkd55
The point is that if it's not finished and capped it can ferment and go rancid from the higher water content.
m0unstr0
Fermented honey is called mead, it's delicious.
wdlkd55
Under proper controlled situations using yeast, not bacteria, with a much higher water content, yes.
m0unstr0
Right, i've done open air fermentation, guess that's airborne yeast, but alcohol kills bacteria, so drink liquor not water to stay healthy.
CoachMcgurl
The honey will flow.
adjacentengels
He who controls the honey controls the universe.
FjordFiskursson
After collecting nectar the bees lower the water content by evaporation. I guess you could collect the honey to early with a flow hive. 1/2
FjordFiskursson
When the water content is high, and then there is a risk of fermentation. And fermented honey taste bad.
wdlkd55
Unless you're doing it on purpose to make Mead. You're completely correct otherwise.
Vikingalchemist
Correctly fermented honey is mead and taste good!
wdlkd55
No, I've made Mead and I've had fermented honey. Fermented honey is disgusting. Mead needs a controlled fermentation process to be good.
Pugsleyx
Perfect name for this rebuttal
SargnargThaHardgeHag
Honey doesn’t expire
Zahnradfee
You still need to make sure the water can evaporate.
ikeepbees
It does if its water content is high enough which allows bacteria to grow causing the honey to go rancid. Thats my issue with these Flow 1/
whoisyourdaddy
Is there no method to test or reduce moisture level after collection?
ikeepbees
Hives. You can tell honey is ready because bees will cap it off with wax. When using a flow hive, all you see is the very edge of the 2/
ikeepbees
frame. The cells past the edge may be uncapped nectar which has a water content high enough for bacteria growth. Source: I keep bees
whoisyourdaddy
Username checks out
PlzCheckYourWiFi
Username checks out
Scarynubbin
Depend on how much water is in it because it may cause it to ferment
deadalchemy
I happen to like fermented honey.
md22mdrx
Mead is good. I like mead.
SolarPolarBear
Mmmm mead
lemonysword
I had mead for the first last week. This sounds like a good thing tbqhfam
kingmirlin
its not honey if it isn't capped properly by the bees.
Scarynubbin
^
JustinSane6
Even better, Honey Wine
AlmostAlwaysInnapropriate
I make loads of it every year, have a friend that sells me honey, and I buy from the store occasionally
Yurets1257
I think it's called Mead
JustinSane6
Don’t you try to steal my Honey Wine invention.
GooseGuy99
It is, but honeywine is also an accurate word
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
I have one of these. Here's mine from last fall
HyggeDimsen
If I ever manage to buy a house I would love this down the bottom of the garden.
ArmedandOverclocked
Beekake
Junktrunkjunkie
This sounds like it might actually be a pretty cool hobby. especially with more stress free hive like that.
ThePunneryOfficer
Really putting the bee in m-bee-a
IRegretThisUsername
What happens if they start putting brood in the honey frames?
CyborgScribe
So...that IS how this works?
robertkelley5
How often do the jars fill. We have a location this would be great, but we only go there about every 2 weeks.
poopgood
Cool
SofiaTheWitch
U're not supposed to drop it i would think
ImChrisHansen
So how long would it take to fill all four of those bottles?
CodeWarrior
We have one and live in Hawaii. We harvest 2 Flow frames every 2 weeks. 14lbs of honey every 2 weeks. It is too much honey. Too much!
Shistosomiasis
How do you know when it's all honeycomb and no babycomb?
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
The brood box is the bottom box. The top is honey comb.
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
There's a screen that keeps the queen out of the honey box.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
AHA! This answered a question I had, like the bees are obviously gonna try & get their honey back as it's running out and end up in the jars
BklynPunisher
Then they end up like the worms in tequila bottles.
2thless
Spicy "worm"
fnurglbhurg
Happy with it? Been watching Frederick Dunn on YT and his Flow Hives. Looks really smart, and frankly less stressful for the bees.
AzgarOgly
Somehow I feel those jars should be full of flies, ants and other beings.
Saturniidae
The bees will attack, kill, and remove any insect dumb enough to wander into a hive.
AzgarOgly
Wasn't the jar outside?
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
TheTittyLicker
Cooooooool.
AwkwardlyUncomfortable
Username does NOT check out, sir. That is exactly how it works
circlebreaker
Pssst! If the bees pollinate marijuana, the honey becomes... "special".
Midna792
You should be in Texas so I can buy your honey
Lupine1982
Guaranteed with a little looking you can find someone local in texas
AstroFizX
Orrrr just buy from him and get it shipped
IvanWestenbrug
Where do I get one, how does it work, I need info op!
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
All the info is here https://www.honeyflow.com/
idontwannagomrstark
Yeah what do you guys have on tap ? Hopefully nothing light.
imsuchaweirdo
I read somewhere that its bad cuz the bees wont know that the honey is tapped from behind the caps. Or are these removed before being tapped
expfarrer
beekeep here - do you like them ?- we installed those in my friends hive and tbh it sucked, handling after 2nd season was a nightmare.
TXTornado
What made it suck? I’ve seen really mixed reviews on these. People either love it or hate it.
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
I haven't had any issues with mine. This is the third year I've had it. I pretty much leave it alone and harvest twice a year.
cronkey
Do you want bears? 'Cause this is how you get bears.
q2grapple
Only chubby ones in midriff shirts though
gjm147
Or Chinese presidents.
QuackQuackAttack
How do you stop bugs and dirt from getting in? Is there a screen on the top I’m missing?
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
It's got a roof. Like a doghouse. The bees protect the honey from other bugs.
megdalynne172000
I think he/she means the jars of honey that sit out. Do they protect that as well? Also, are there dirt and leaves that get in too?
OrbitalSloth
The jars don’t sit out. Honey takes time for the bees to make, its nectar that’s been dehydrated through fanning and regurgitating.
OrbitalSloth
Also anything that’s outside of the hive that’s got sugar in it, they’ll move to inside of the hive fairly quickly.
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
It's quick process. Takes about a minute to fill the jar. It comes out quickly. The last bit may take a few minutes as it slows.
QuackQuackAttack
Cool, I thought it was collecting there over hours/days like a tap on a sugar maple. Thanks!
megdalynne172000
Ohhh okay, I thought you had the jars there for a while to fill as the bees made it
meadmaker
What was your total take for the year? How many pounds. I am also a bee keeper.
sahdad
Let's be honest, you only keep bees so you can make tasty drinks from their spit.
meadmaker
I don't know who downvoted your comment, but you're 100 percent right.
t1OOO
"Meadmaker" nice
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
I would say about 20 lbs from the Flow Hive. I just do it as a hobby. I wanted a hive to help pollinate my gardens and have some honey.
OneDayIwillPost
I wish I could give more than one upvote for this comment.
Raptor052
I'll give one of mine if that helps.
MrZev
And mine too
Chingchilla
doesn't it attract loads of other insects with the honey out like that?
OrbitalSloth
There’s normally not an opening to get in, it’s a super you put on top of an 8 frame box. The flow frames still have to be prepped
OrbitalSloth
By the bees, they have to close the sides and cap them still. You open up a panel on the side and effectively crack the cells from the side
OrbitalSloth
And all the honey flows into the middle of the frame and out. 99% of the time that box isn’t going to be on the hive, and the bees will
OrbitalSloth
Seal up any cracks between them and the outside with propolis. When I saw this marketed, it was advertised that you wouldn’t be bothering
moonsaves
I'd imagine you could fashion a lid for jars that locks the tube in. I'm surprised it doesn't come with them as standard.
browncoatsforever
Would you recommend this hive?
OrbitalSloth
There’s a YouTube channel called vinofarm that got one of these, did a fairly comprehensive review 2 seasons later.
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
It's a little pricey, but yes. I've had no issues with mine. I'd recommend buying an established Nuc instead of just bees.
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
I got in on this during the kickstarter, so I got mine for less.
jamjellyjellyjam
Is there any upkeep? Like cleaning out beeswax or anything?
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
I really just leave mine alone. I clean the parts that drain the honey. That's about it. I let the bees do their thing.
GenitalWars
Woah, it good?
LoodGookin
It's Hot, it's Ready.
TheradicalO
Like yer mum
apathyorwhatever
I said it's HOT and it's READY!
TheradicalO
And I said like yer mum
apathyorwhatever
I wish!
Lethous
Little ceasers of honey
Thatsnothowanyofthisworks
It's awesome. Raw and unfiltered from wildflowers. No maintenance required.
Djayy
But how does dried honey not gum it up? Can you bee keep in places where it snows a lot?
ikeepbees
I hope you do still treat your bees for mites and what not
ForgeoftheWordsmith
Unbeelievable! If only I didn't live in an apartment...
captnrob
Nobody said you couldn't keep bees in your apartment. Just make sure to pay the pet deposit.
Dzwikey
To be fair, the filter is the worker bee.
ikeepbees
Unfiltered meaning you’ll get sugar crystals and wax bits
IGenerallyPostThumbsUpGifs
That’s what she proclaimed
nonamejanie
See this is what I love about imgur. I am so going to buy one.
HodgePodgekin
How do you keep dust and particles from landing in the open air jars?
Ninjafrog
It drains pretty fast, I think you can fill a jar in like an hour or whatever. Then you close the tap.
PowwerOrb13
From what I've read, jars fill in close to a minute, and the tap doesn't close.