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She said that Planned Parenthood takes babies about to be born and kills them, even against the mother's will.
Because, and I quote, the "more developed the parts they have the higher they cost"
She, like many other Pro Lifers, have repeated this over and over and over.
Despite the fact it's baseless, has no medical reasoning in it, and is utter and complete bullshit.
She said a video exists of Doctors working at Planned Parenthood discussing where to get the parts and how fresh they need to be for the highest cost. She said this video also has the babies being killed themselves in it.
This video has never surfaced and she (and other Pro-Lifers who believe it) just says to look it up.
I went out of my way to find this video. After hours I never found it. I only found Pro Life Sites and Christian Sites saying it exists.
bigmrt
Politics must change. Ethical people from 'the mainstream' i.e. people in employment, must be voted in to run the gvmt. Like a jury.
FlyingTigerRose
So when they decide to defund Planned Parenthood because of this lie, thousands of women will lose what access they had to medical care.
WHOLEMILK
She is awful, I wanted to punch her face during the debates
NomDeImguerre
What the fuck is wrong with your country, America?
captatio
Remember when two lies was like... a big deal? Then we elected liarmccheeto.
MrWobblyHead
The problem with fuckwits like her is that they're all for making women going to full term and giving birth to a baby they don't want 1/2
MrWobblyHead
2/2 But they've got no interest providing support afterwards. Postnatal depression affects a lot of women, so it not just money they'll need
AngryGroundhog
If the pro-birth movement had a leg to stand on, they wouldn't have to constantly resort to blatant lies & misconceptions to gain support.
snarflex
The videos and PP testimony, under oath, in court, and before Congress, reinforce what the pro-life movement has claimed against them.
Ferrumkit
Pffft, we all know if we allow babies to pop out we could juice em and rejuvenate the Golden Age Americans to lead us against the commies.
ok2day
Her lies resulted in a mentally unstable man killing an abortion provider. She should be prosecuted for a hate crime.
bringmeeAllurKrabCakes
does anyone have the video of Fiorina? Just curious to see it.
WallpaperProblems
Here you go https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
bringmeeAllurKrabCakes
. . . I have no words.
palatinekatinka
I hate when people say 'Look it up'. If you want to convince me, provide evidence. Don't expect me to go find it for you.
stsword
On the other hand, some people ask for evidence that would be provided the moment one typed something in an internet search.
HtownFreethinker
Republicans lie, and they get away with it, they will be the downfall of our country but then they will just lie some more!
Wombatish
She may be a more blatant and direct example, but she is -not at all- alone in this lie. It is still being cited in the defunfing *c (
Wombatish
c* debates/fights, both state and local. TX - I say with great shame - cited it officially!
AgentNSFW
maniacalmacaroni
Fiorina lies twice last year. Trump has lied at least 5 times this week.
7hatsBollocks
She's just mad because she thought she could pick up some baby parts to snack on, but was denied.
meeperton
I had to actually look around to see if I accidentally went back to an old post accidentally or something.
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
Yeah this is old news but I'm just reminding people of where this rumor and "talking point" kicked off from.
whatupmyknitters
it's important to keep that in people's minds. this rumor's a pretty dangerous one.
purplesmurfstew
http://www.snopes.com/pp-baby-parts-sale/ Copied from another comment incase you have not seen it yet.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Im cool with abortion. If mother can't raise a good healthy person DONT
stressfracturesintitanium
If Carly Fiorina really wants to destroy Planned Parenthood, she should become its CEO.
LBot1
Haha noice burn
BilHam
http://imgur.com/9F44EMI
sundaymondayhippyday
Grimdude
I hope this is the new "thanks Obama" of this presidency. Always upvote.
Howtogrowwood
I think it should be perfectly legal that if a politician is caught lying and there is evidence to this, they should be tar and feathered
potatoesmakemeveryhappy
To be fair, most of the politicians would end up tar and feathered then.
DragosTalus
Libel and Slander.
Rifneno
If their lies get people killed, like hers, they should be charged with first degree murder.
Manaslu
We wouldnt have any left
Manaslu
And shes not a politician? Shes never held office.
definitelynotanarc
Anyone who declares for office should count.
javer80
Yeah, tar's getting expensive.
turdferguson74
She lied her ass off at HP as well. Surprised HP is still a company after how bad she fucked it up. I was happy to take a bonus to leave.
StandAgainstTyranny
I heard from a former software engineer of HP that they are on their way out, in a big way.
BobSmooth
WhatAboutTheEmails.png
BilHam
http://imgur.com/9F44EMI
sundaymondayhippyday
jandrem
BENGHAZI!
Dirtyeel
There is a video discussing how to retrieve parts and the cost to "sell" them. It's on factcheck.org among other places. Prolly what referd
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
http://www.snopes.com/pp-baby-parts-sale/
snarflex
Except that link doesn't disprove the videos at all. Plus, PP has testified in court and before Congress that a lot of the claims (1/2)
Dirtyeel
Yeah, that's the video that they refer to and assume nobody will look it up if they say enough graphic things about it.
snarflex
are essentially true. Look up testimony from the Gosnell trial, e.g. (2/2)
mallerzkay
This doesn't even say it's false though.
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
It says it's extremely misleading in edited form. In unedited form it's also misleading. They talk about shipping costs for Donationing 1/2
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
The fetus to Stem Cell Research Centers. The edited version makes it look like they're talking about how much each part costs in the baby.
IndeedIAmTheOnlyGirlOnTheInternet
+1 Planned Parenthood is awesome! This dumb bitch.
whatupmyknitters
if people want fewer abortions to be happening, planned parenthood should be getting more funding. it's thanks to planned parenthood that --
snarflex
I will happily donate to a women's health org, but I don't want to donate to all their other shady crap. So why not split it up?
LaCroixBoix
What's so shady about an abortion exactly?
whatupmyknitters
--i've never needed to make a choice about having an abortion. PP's always had my back!
LoTRFanatic42
They want to teach kids abstinence only sex ed, not provide birth control or abortions, and still have no one get pregnant. Rediculous.
stsword
My understanding is that the states with the most restrictive anti-abortion laws provide the least help to children and mothers, funny that.
snarflex
If PP cares for women's health, and if their abortion business is self-sustaining, it's a win-win if they split up the two businesses.
DiracsDelta
She also basically ruined HP... but I used to work there, so maybe that's just personal bias.
BatLadyRielle
All i know is the company picnics in Big Basin stopped after she joined. they had one, and my sister got to throw a water balloon at her.
BatLadyRielle
Those used to be so fun. Now, though... HP seems like a horrible place to work. their management style is outdated.
LBot1
I recall Yahoo and HP Board were rated the worst the year she left HP. Not sure who rated them, Bloomberg, WSJ, or Barron
LBot1
Most the fault fell on HP Board members, I think Carly was inexperienced and probably couldnt manage the members
Attaroo
Cognitive dissonance - people often get mad at the person who tells them they were lied to instead of the one who lied
Cavalrysword
You mean blaming the messenger.
sundaymondayhippyday
That's don't shoot the messenger. Cognitive dissonance is holding 2 opposing views simultaneously. Like Trump is orange and Trump tans well
rainmakerab
Well he does tan well, if you like to be orange coloured when you tan. I also heard he owns Russian Skittles, and they only make orange ones
rainmakerab
Well he does tan well, if you like to be orange coloured when you tan. I also heard he owns Russian Skittles, and they only make orange ones
NamesAreStupid
That's not exactly what cognitive dissonance means.
wobbu
i cant believe that guy lied to me, im so mad at you
Attaroo
Fair enough. The idea I was trying to get across was that while people are trying to process the new information they often get mad and
Attaroo
reject it initially, and take that out on the person that told them the fact that didn't fit their previous world view.
NamesAreStupid
I get where you were trying to go with it, but that's a bit of a stretch. It's truly referring to the internal stress caused by the genuine
NamesAreStupid
Belief of two theories or ideas that happen to have opposing views or beliefs. Yet for whatever reason you've subscribed to both despite.
TheRealDurdan
Second this. Cognitive dissonance is when you have two thoughts that contradict each other, or a thought and an action.
ElBivo
More precisely it is when behaviour is inconsistent with beliefs and values.
TheRealDurdan
Yeah this is better
TheRealDurdan
The example I was going to use was a smoker who believes that smoking is wrong
TheRealDurdan
I was going off memory from uni
ElBivo
in my text it is the anti-smoker who has to do business with a tobacco corp
yikesaroni
like two weeks after she gave the Planned Parenthood speech in the GOP primaries, some crazy christian shoots up an abortion center in CA
patotheduck
Those Christians coming over here taking our Terrorist Vacancies!!
snarflex
You're talking about the guy who wasn't found mentally competent and had committed many other crimes besides? That guy?
Renzen
If he'd been black he'd be serving 30 years for a misdemeanor. So blame his parents or the justice system.
JesseJames18241
He was as Christian as the gay ISIS agent in Orlando. He had a violent history and never went to church.
lurkvoter
I think you're thinking of Colorado, not California. But yeah.
whatupmyknitters
it's not even a center that only does abortions. it's just a regular planned parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs
lurkvoter
That too, yes. I was focused on the CO bit because I live there. But it was also just a totally normal planned parenthood.
SingularPing
People fail to see that PP does a LOT more than just abortions, like STD screening, contraceptives, advice and teaching how to have safe sex
whatupmyknitters
i live here too :)
legup2p
http://www.snopes.com/pp-baby-parts-sale/
Gasquatch
https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/amp/
Gasquatch
Can't trust Snopes either
rottenmilkshakesbringzombieboystotheyard
Stem cell research basically came out of aborted fetuses which saves countless lives. Where do you think the stem cells came from? The sky?
purplesmurfstew
Can we push this comment further up? It is, at the very least, eyebrow raising.
SenoritaPotato
Not that it's good, but they would throw them into the trash anyways.. they are an abortion clinic.. even though it's absolutely sick, 1/2
SenoritaPotato
Maybe some good will come from it? Cures for diseases? I just want to believe it's not all bad I guess 2/2
pibbynickey
Yeah, you beat me to it. Does not talk about purposefully killing them like that lady says, but it is disturbing
thelonepig
I don't know why you're being downvoted. No one LIKES dead babies or abortions. Discussing their corpses IS disturbing, no matter what.
NaturallySelectedFor
This video was proven to have been faked by pro lifers a while ago, I thought.
ermergerdwerrfers
No if you read the article and all the sources you'll see that it is an actual video investigation into Planned Parenthood.
DMGuy
A video investigation by a noted partisan group, whose members had provably lied in the past, and only provided an edited video?
DrPsykes
No, Pro-Lifers pretended to represent companies interested in purchasing the fetuses, but the sellers thought it was real.
JesseJames18241
So the guy released two versions. 6 hours of raw footage and a 6 minute edit. The 6 minute edit is the one everyone saw. (1)
JesseJames18241
Being pro-life, the way I understood it, planned Parenthood was 'donating' partial fetuses and getting reimbursed the shipping costs. (2)
JesseJames18241
Seeing as they receive federal funding, pro life groups are very vigilant to see if PP profits from their abortion services. (3)
eatabowlofdicks
Why isn't this top comment????
peachesforme
people already know it's false on imgur.
snarflex
They believe what they've been told without watching it, reason being they all dismiss it as "oh, it's an edited fake."
BookerLegit
Perhaps because it WAS highly edited and the people who edited it have a history of this?
eatabowlofdicks
Well it's not entirely false. Did you even read the snopes article? It's half true...
spicepoet
Half is reaching. What it says is 'yes these people said some of those words", but it's been deliberately edited out of context for a bias.
BookerLegit
The important bit is false. Nothing in the video proves PP does anything unlawful.
bloatedplutocrat
Her lying about it directly resulted in 3 people to include a policeman being shot and killed in Co Springs. Still won't take responsibility
snarflex
You're talking about the guy who wasn't found mentally competent and had committed many other crimes besides? That guy?
TurtBurglar
I took my friend there to have a pregnancy terminated only weeks before that happened. Crazy stuff.
Janthran
that guy was an actual lunatic and everyone with a voice in the pro-life movement denounced him
odraencoded
Sure, sure, but where are the "actual" pro-choice lunatics? Who are they shooting? Unborn babies?
TheseArentTheDroidsImLookingFor
Any more than Stephen King took actual responsibility for "Rage" being found tied to school shootings. At least he was man enough to (1/2)
TheseArentTheDroidsImLookingFor
pull the book from being published! (2/2)
patthecat
Stephen King = not a politician.
UMDhockey17
Totally different situation
unbournespy
Sauce please?
CHAMPZILLA42
Look it up yourself. You have the same info they do just take the time to confirm something instead of distrusting everything.
FrankTilde
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34950261
Cheomesh
When?
DAFUQisaLOMMY
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Colorado+Springs+shooting
Drwowcow
Love it
JeffwiththeNukes
Got damn that's petty
JeffwiththeNukes
Also I love it +1
javer80
November 27, 2015. Here you go, friend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting
Cheomesh
Oh, I thought they were talking about something recent.
peachesforme
it was directly after she said that. also recentness doesn't change that people died because of lies
nabacular
Robert Lewis Dear was found mentally Incompetent to stand trial. Under this reasoning Jodie Foster should be arrested for assassination
woodhavendweller
So a crazy man goes on a rampage and its this lady's fault? That's some logic for ya.
spiffylookingnerfherder
Like how it's Obama's fault when some punk in Oakland smashes the window of a Starbucks. He 'emboldened' them by 'scolding white people'.
bloatedplutocrat
He said he did it to defend the murdered babies in the made up video. Similar to how a hate preaching Imam is responsible for suicidebombers
snarflex
But, as mentioned, the man was literally insane, not considered competent, and had committed other crimes besides.
woodhavendweller
I would say they both have mental issues. You can say whatever you want to me, it won't make me go murder people.
bloatedplutocrat
As does the judge, it's why he declared him mentally unfit to stand trial. The breaking point was her lie. You unfortunately aren't everyone
mallerzkay
If words can make you kill, then you're already a murderer waiting to strike and a dangerous person.
woodhavendweller
How about people are PERSONALLY responsible for their actions.
MrCalamiteh
Then she should be found PERSONALLY responsible for her actions. See how that works?
mallerzkay
Then BLM is responsible for the murder of police officers? She didn't force anyone to do anything. To say she did is to take away (1)
hayabusahime
What the fuck? BLM hasn't murdered any police officers, stop watching Fox News.
mallerzkay
I never said they did. I said if you're blaming a person or group for a murder for something they said then one could argue the same for BLM
mallerzkay
Responsibility from the person who committed such heinous crimes. It's not her fault someone is a psycho.
Gorgrim
But it is her fault if she knowingly spreads lies which directly influence the decisions of another.
woodhavendweller
That's what I was saying. I got downvoted to hell for it. Oh well. Personal responsibility isn't very popular it seems.
Riptide00
Wouldn't it be simpler to list the politicians who HAVEN'T lied to us?
Daevin
Hmm... but is an empty list still a list? Or is it truly nothing?
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Nope.
DanTheMan4710
I haven't lied to 'us'. Vote me for president 2020!
AtomicSuperMe
it only has Trump, because he never lied to us
MobileUserGundam
While she is just terrible, I think you're doing yourself a disservice by saying "twice" there. Our President flat-out lies constantly.
BilldeTurlock
!
AngryGroundhog
Surely we can acknowledge there's a difference between misstating a statistic & claiming "they're killing babies & selling the parts!".
HIJKLMNObuddy
That list would have next to no entries, so hell yeah you're right!
LMeire
"Surrender to my army or die horribly!" -- Genghis Khan Temujin
thefar
Don't be lazy. Get in their face. Every fucking time.
raggedrabbit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stubbs_(cat)
darkhavana0512
complimentpin
Bernie
iamthisguy247
Mayor McCheese. A man we can trust. Well, I mean a cheeseburger man we can trust.
Pheenix99
Here's your list:
Nobody7713
There's few, but as far as lies go, this is really fucking bad.
Beelsebooob
No - there's a difference between the blatant lies these people tell, and general political maneuverings. It's important to recognise that.
SneaksieCorsair
n080dy123
Not all politicians are corrupt or liars.
SkypeOfCthulhu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stubbs_(cat)
PoliticalLava
After going through PolitiFact, I can say that Bernie Sanders tells the truth ~89% of the time.
rpgaff2
There is a difference between lies.
Genburnsidessideburn
This type of thinking normalized Trump:"All politicians stretch the truth, so electing one with no relationship with reality is no big deal"
Foffer
It's hard to make a list, when there are 0 candidates to be on it.
NukerNoah
I feel as if that set is so empty, it is a proper subset of the empty set.
SamoniusNightbringer
That is a short list. It has one name on it, Trump.
pfiidude2
I think this is a joke..........
pfiidude2
I hope this is a joke........
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
If Trump on that list, you might want to add the great leader of north Korea too.
Nobody7713
Trump lies all the time
greenwedel
Wish we could force mandatory lie detectors. Won't work for the idiots that actually believe their lies but at least weeds out the assholes.
FireElemental
Yeah, I'll list them now:
dbs64
Show me a list of politicians who haven't lied, and I'll show you a blank piece of paper.
JayEnfield
http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/executive-vice-president-dog-the-simpsons-0.1.jpg
myr14d
And I'll show you a mob of people complaining about how that list is too white.
WallpaperProblems
Lies here's a great honest politician https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
sentx
There isn't enough cocaine in the world to compensate for how depressingly short that list would be.
CoBr2
I'm sure there's a fair number that have never INTENTIONALLY lied or skewed facts, but did so anyway and believed what they said.
eetsumkaus
"My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not"
MrLaveLave
*snorts*
itwasntgayifyouhave20moredollars
Underrated comment of the day
SomeCrazyNerd
They all have. And said miselading things. But Obama actually ranks quite well. As does Bernie Sanders. Clinton, not so much. Trump; by god.
ZRod
Politifact bothers me b/c they counted minor number errors by Sanders as lies but didn't do the same for Hillary.
Xirema
Clinton actually ranked nearly identically to Sanders. Sanders told fewer lies, but Clinton told more "whole truths" than him.
Xirema
Sanders ranks really highly on "mostly true" or "half true" statements, but has fewer "100% true" ratings.
justlurkinfornow
Sanders lied?
SomeCrazyNerd
Once or twice I think. He has had a long career. And they deal in talking, they have to lie a little sometimes. But he's fairly honest.
justlurkinfornow
It makes me like him even more somehow. He's human. Holier than thou thing is kinda boring.
Xirema
"He's human" a luxury Clinton apparently didn't qualify for among many voters....
PoopFrosting
i gotchu:
Elephanthead
His paws are clean, let him into the government. He will chase the squirrels out of the swamp and wont waste time barking up the wrong tree.
Smashallsmurfs
The one TRUE politician
TimmyDans
Licking baby's and shaken paws is what I do best!
FatThor89
Thank you, PoopFrosting.
SomeCrazyNerd
Small town mayor in Minnesota.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
My dad's gf has a cabin on pelican lake, can confirm (names escape me though)... and now I'm curious why other people upvoted.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
"How do the polls look, Susan?" "Ruff." "Don't fucking mock me, Susan, we've got a campaign to win."
Elroydb
"I did not have sexual relations with that leg"
DeadMemeCentral
THANK YOU
SarcasticComment
idk... one time he took a bread roll, then pretended he was innocent of the crime when questioned.
RwizCat
i was expecting a blank image
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
False equivalence. Spin or misleading wording is different from bold faced, refutable with 2 seconds on google, ludicrously blatant bullshit
Elroydb
So you have your lies and then you have your lying lies?
Starcatcher1986
Not to mention the consequences of the lie.
Schmedes
Ah the old "yell false equivalence when anyone calls my side out on bullshit"
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
I'm not talking about a side. I'm talking about this particular statement and ones like it which has nothing to do with party affiliation.
Schmedes
I'm not really interested in arguing with someone who calls out logical fallacies on internet comment sections constantly. Not worth it.
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
The point is that this sort of lie from anybody is especially egregious, and not "just another lie".
adobesubmarine
Ah the old "imply that pointing out a fallacy makes the person a hypocrite or something"
jonnyroquette
Half truths are also half lie.
adobesubmarine
That makes some assumptions about the axioms of fact-mathematics that we can't necessarily rely on, but it's a decent approximation.
jonnyroquette
You're why I still use imgur.
pfiidude2
Half lies are diferent than 100% lies.
jonnyroquette
Different yes... better no
pfiidude2
I disagree whole heartedly.
raggedrabbit
Half lie 3 confirmed...
CycloneSP
but weaving a little truth into your lies only makes the lies that much stronger.
pfiidude2
It also introduces plausible deniability. I misremembered/misquoted/found a biased source. But the other kind of lie means ur stupid or evil
Danheartsmemes
People literally died because of this lie.
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
Shut up
kr18
really? not trying to be a pot stirrer but who and when?
yummmmm
colorado springs shooter. ya white guys from north carolina are more often terrorists than refugees are
Kierbear2g
People are *going* to die because this is part of the reason the GOP wants to defund planned parenthood too,
BavarianGuy
So why is she not in jail. Here 2 illegal street racers just got life in prison for murder because one of them hit a jeep and killed the man
icreatedmyscreennamejustsoicouldupvotethis
Because in the US, the rich don't get convicted. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/index.html
BavarianGuy
Makes me think about getting rich and moving to the US, but on the other hand I will probably wait 7 years and 11 month with that plan.
AceNightingale
Welcome to reality, kiddo. It's rarely the truth that kills around here.
InfiniteSynapse
Powerful people with an agenda is a very dangerous combination.
Deathcon92
Wait why did people die?
SkinMiner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
You're blaming a psycho's mass shooting on a politician's pro-life advocacy? Fuck off.
SkinMiner
No, I'm blaming her lies for feeding him a ready-made excuse to lash out violently and justify the murders. And the lack of remorse for it
Danheartsmemes
Call him what he is. A Christian terrorist.
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
I agree. But like almost any other religious terrorist he wasn't doing a very good job of following his claimed religion
iuploadbearpics
People literally die because of abortion.
Danheartsmemes
So that makes it right? An eye for an eye?
kittybuttwiggle
People literally die leaving their family behind because nutjobs bully them into not getting an abortion
WerewolfSmile
Your definition of "people" may need to be revised.
Danheartsmemes
And death implies life, which a fetus has never had.
TheTallKid
May need to revise your definition of life.
iuploadbearpics
Preach.
Danheartsmemes
I believe you do. Outside the womb. Alive. Inside the womb. Part of the woman's body.
WerewolfSmile
Just because something is alive, does not mean it is a person.
iuploadbearpics
You obviously lack an understanding of life. A fetus has major organs, brain, heart, reproductive organs and more.
WerewolfSmile
But not all abortions happen at the fetal stage, after the zygote has become an embryo, and after the embryo has become a fetus.
Danheartsmemes
It's also entirely dependent on it's host.
TheTallKid
Fetus is latin for baby. I've never heard of any doctor describing a fetus as dead unless it is in regards to a miscarriage.
RiskIt4ABiscuit
Sorry but you are incorrect, I have taken some latin. fetus is transversus in Latin
justlurkinfornow
Honoust question, my country has free legal abortion and no significant opponents so I don't know this, Why aren't the people are violent 1/
stsword
The same reason that the republicans don't mind Republican Peter King's ties to Irish Terrorism. It's only bad when other people do it.
justlurkinfornow
towards pro-choicers called terorrists? It's a political statement, they threaten or commit violence. It's the definition of terorrism. 2/2
BreadyStinellis
They are, just not by the right who have tried to change the meaning of terrorist to mean only brown Muslim people.
Danheartsmemes
Because they are generally Christian terrorists and the conservative party here doesn't want to associate their beliefs with terrorism.
Danheartsmemes
In short, they only want to label Muslims as terrorists.
justlurkinfornow
Hmm, yeah that's what I figured. Thanks for your respons!
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
Because violent white people aren't terrorists, they're lone wolves. No matter how obviously influenced by a movement they are.
Aysling
There are white terrorists. Ted Kaczynski and Timothy McVeigh to name two. But it's much harder to get a white person labeled 'terrorist'.
DehydratedBoogers
They aren't because society declines to view them as such. If they don't incite terror, they aren't successful terrorists. Irony is that
justlurkinfornow
Hmm, yeah that's what I figured. Thanks for your respons!
BoopBoopDEEDoop
Unfortunately nobody ever wants to even mention that
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
Because that's a retarded claim.
DMGuy
Right, just fake news right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
You liberals are drawing a connection between a common political stance and a psychopath's decision to commit mass murder.
DrPaulaIrving
Um...why are you this way?
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
Or that the kids who were shot at Columbine are to blame for not being friends with the shooters?
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
Or that Lincoln caused his own death by defeating the South and pissing off Booth?
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
Or that Porsche is responsible for making Paul Walker's friend drive fast and killing him?
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
So you're saying the writers of "Taxi Driver" should be responsible for the shooting of Reagan?
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
Or that Roosevelt is responsible for the men killed at Pearl Harbor because he authorized the embargo on Japan?
ThatGuyWithTheBinoculorsOnDiscountHothInEpisode8
If conservatives ever pulled that crap you'd talk about it for years, but we're smarter than that.
DMGuy
Motherfucker they're *still* trying to pin Benghazi on Clinton despite her entire political opposition finding her free of fault. So no.
PatricianVetinari
Because it's religiously motivated terrorism.
sykoticflaw
Let's be sure to clarify that the religion motivating this terrorism is CHRISTIANITY, NOT ISLAM. The irony of it is deafening.
OMFGitsST6
Because it's Christian terrorism.
DonkinDunnts
I'm Christian and I support abortion and it's not just christians who fight abortion.
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mastikator
Because it's heterosexual terrorism
ArthurPhillipDent
Apparently all christians are white now?
ImaLumberjackAndImAlrightAlrightAlright
realmenfightnaked
THEM DANG OL WHITE CHRISCHINS
HowDoMyFartsStillSqueekWhenIPoopSoBig
https://media.giphy.com/media/jS3JhNgjB75UA/giphy.gif
Comradesjeltonarmy
Yea I find this to be despicable. All we ever hear about is "Muslim" terror when most terror stateside is done by white Christians to PP
SgtPlasmax
You realize that you're a member of the racist problem in America right? The womens march was predominantly white, civil rights movement too
Comradesjeltonarmy
How am I part of the racist problem? I'm saying that we should judge a person by their merits and actions and not the color of their skin.
Comradesjeltonarmy
And if someone attacks someone for the purpose of spreading fear they are terrorist a regardless of they are black, white, brown, or yellow
Comradesjeltonarmy
But the right wing media doesn't treat all terror the same. Also I will disagree that the civil rights movement was mostly white. But if it
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Ah, but those are not terrorists, only lone nuts! /s
PerpetuallyPerplexedPlatypus
Yea normally nuts come in pairs
blahtotheblahblah
peachesforme
trump is cutting funding to research and try to prevent domestic terrorism by white folks
Comradesjeltonarmy
Huh?
peachesforme
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO
Comradesjeltonarmy
Thank you for that. I didn't quite understand the verbage before, but now I do. This is terrible. People must do whatever they can to kill
justlurkinfornow
Why are you being downvoted? It's true. He wants to narrow the definition and combating of terorrism to only radical Islam.
peachesforme
yeah not sure. folks just see trump and downvote maybe.
americanlivinginjapan
There's been less than ten attacks on PP by Christians in the US
americanlivinginjapan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
Comradesjeltonarmy
There have been at least 11 deaths, 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault and battery, and 41 bombings
americanlivinginjapan
That includes all abortion attacks, not just PP
Comradesjeltonarmy
Most clinics are also pp either way they are acta of terror which are arguably based on religious zealotry. My main point is those acts of
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
The Right is obsessed with Islam's dangerous dogma. The Far Left is obsessed with defending Muslims. People like realize there's value 1/2
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
In both points. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhist, Hindu, and more are all guilty of murder and oppression in the name of Sky Daddy
Sn4f
Simply put: there are assholes everywhere, the are good people everywhere.
SgtPlasmax
But to say that our society would have been brought together and developed without a common ideology bonding us such as religion is unlikely
PowwerOrb13
Kinda, it's possible but only if people aren't afraid of not knowing something.
ladyXshakes
Sky Daddy.
justlurkinfornow
Wait what? Defending Muslims is a far left thing? I thought people protect Muslims because they are clearly the targeted group right now.
justlurkinfornow
Nobodys pretending Saudi Arabia is nice or that their interpertation of Islam is humane.It's also not representative of 1.6 billion Muslims.
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
Look up Steve Shives(or Laci Green/every actual snowflake)'s opinion on Islam.
SgtPlasmax
Are you sure cis white men havent been under fire for the past half century from birth to grave based on a racist and sexist historical flaw
Comradesjeltonarmy
All I am bringing up is because it doesn't fit the narrative the right wants it is played off as lone wolves and isolated events. But if 1
Comradesjeltonarmy
The attacker happens to identify as Muslim they jump on it saying see this is why we need to do blank to Muslims. By having that mentality 2
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Wait, Buddhists terrorists?
Larkos
Look up Sri Lanka
justlurkinfornow
Oh yeah, Burma, Myanmar, Sri Lanka...
Cutwail
Sri lanka, muslim purge.
Larkos
Look up Sri Lanka