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Worldwide View: Dots are large/small to indicate number of cases, and placed in the geographic center of the affected region. Current Global Map/Charts created and maintained by Johns Hopkins University
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
*Plague.Inc symbols have been continually added for a bit of levity.
**********************ATTENTION! This post is out of date.
Most current update: https://imgur.com/gallery/y8DWAtQ
Asia/Middle East Area close Up
Europe Close Up
Alternate map.
Chart from Worldmeters
*Note. This fatality rate is based on current recovered/deaths. The average worldwide is about 2%.
Updates since the last post.
Currently Infected: (-1,208)
Deaths: (+68)
Recovered: (+2,990)
Daily Cases outside China: Chart from WorldoMeters
*Chart is for end of the day on the 1st- does not update until after this post goes out for some time.
Distribution of Cases outside China: Chart from WorldoMeters
Total Cases outside China: Chart from WorldoMeters
Logarithmic Scale: https://i.imgur.com/K3EJKmV.png
A breakdown of United States cases. Sorry, they don't have a Europe option available =(
Age and risk of the virus. This is to put things in perspective for most at-risk groups. Idea was forwarded by a user and I agree it's important information to maintain perspective and reduce panic. This is the info we have from the virus in China.
From WorldoMeters.
List of total countries with ACTIVE cases- to offset the map. Data from Worldometers
Current United States Uh-Oh rating: 5.5/10
International: 6-6.5
^Added for worldwide clarity.
Keeping at 5.5 as things develop in the United States.
All these lovely images provided by @Sequ892
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Post is out a bit early; have an evening thing, but didn't want to delay it. Numbers do not take into account the S. Korea update.
Bunker Communications Hub Discord Server: Feel free to join our growing community! New Area-specific channels added by @TheRealWhaleLord (The Administrator) more coming soon!
*Contact details added. Feel free to sign up to be a source for information in your local area and connect with others, as well as talk with users in 'hot zones' (Areas affected by the virus.)
https://discord.gg/3fyuSeA
Twitter: @BunkerJohn2
- "The new coronavirus appears to now be spreading much more rapidly outside China than within, and airports in hard-hit countries were ramping up screening of travelers....
World Health Organization (WHO) chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said almost eight times as many cases had been reported outside China as inside in the previous 24 hours, adding that the risk of coronavirus spreading was now very high at a global level. " -Reuters
- "WHO chief on coronavirus: "Our message to all countries is: This is not a one-way street. We can push this virus back. Your actions now will determine the course of the outbreak in your country. There is no choice but act now."" -BNO News
- "U.S. Vice President Mike Pence said that within 12 hours, airports across South Korea and Italy will screen all travelers for coronavirus. Pence, who has been put in charge of the U.S. response to the outbreak, also said U.S. travel restrictions may expand.
The head of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said U.S. industry expects to have the capacity to perform 1 million coronavirus tests by the end of the week. " -Reuters
- "The Seoul government asked prosecutors to launch a murder investigation into leaders of the church. Seoul Mayor Park Won-soon said that if founder Lee Man-hee and other heads of the church had cooperated, fatalities could have been prevented.
Lee knelt and apologized to the country, saying that one church member had infected many others and calling the epidemic a “great calamity”. " -Reuters
- "But Wuhan itself, at the center of the epidemic, shut the first of 16 specially built hospitals that were hurriedly put up to treat coronavirus cases, the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV said.
There was also a steep fall in new cases in Hubei, the province around Wuhan, but China remained on alert for people returning home with the virus from other countries.
The virus broke out in Wuhan late last year and has since infected more than 86,500 people, mostly in China.
Only eight cases were reported in China beyond Hubei on Sunday, the WHO said.
China’s U.N. Ambassador Zhang Jun at a news conference said: “We definitely believe that with the coming of spring we’re not far from the coming of the victory of the final defeat of COVID-19.” " -Reuters
- "In Britain, which has 40 confirmed cases, Prime Minister Boris Johnson urged people to be prepared for a further spread. " -Reuters
- "Andorra, Armenia, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Iceland and Indonesia...
Latvia, Saudi Arabia, Senegal and Morocco reported cases for the first time, bringing the total to more than 60 countries with the illness known as COVID-19. confirmed their first cases. " -Reuters
- "A senior U.S. official said he was concerned about a likely jump in the number of cases in the United States, which has had more than 90, with six deaths. More testing will almost surely lead to more confirmed cases.
“When you have a number of cases that you’ve identified and they’ve been in the community for a while, you’re going to wind up seeing a lot more cases than you would have predicted,” Dr Anthony Fauci, head of the infectious diseases unit at the U.S. National Institutes of Health, told CNN. " -Reuters
- "Researchers who studied the first two Washington deaths had said the virus may have been spreading there for weeks, and suggested that up to 1,500 people may have been infected." -BBC
- "Australian health officials are meeting today to consider additional measures to stop the spread of coronavirus, including a possible ban on large gatherings and asking people to work from home - ABC, citing sources" -BNO News
- "King County, WA health officer: "The risk for all of us of becoming infected will be increasing, and although most of the cases will be mild or moderate, the infection can cause serious illness and there's a potential for many people to become ill at the same time" - BNO News
- "Moscow reports first case of coronavirus" -BNO News
- "European CDC update on coronavirus in the EU and the UK. Risk of "widespread sustained transmission" is now "moderate to high."" -BNO News
- "EU Crisis Management Commissioner on coronavirus: "While we should not give in to panic, the situation is likely to still get worse so we need to be prepared and time is of essence"" -BNO News
- "The world is in "uncharted territory" on the coronavirus outbreak, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said.Its chief, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said the virus was "unique" but could be contained with the right measures....
Dr Tedros insisted: "We can push this virus back". He also said stigma was more dangerous than the disease itself." -BBC
- "This was a "unique virus with unique features" and the WHO would have expected wide contagion by now, but containment measures had appeared to work, the doctor said.Of the 62 countries reporting cases of infection, 38 of them had 10 or fewer, he added.
"Around eight countries have not reported new cases for two weeks and have been able to contain the outbreak," he said. China had also shown containment was possible even in countries with a large number of cases.The WHO would continue to monitor whether the outbreak should be called a global pandemic, Dr Tedros said." -BBC
- "The WHO says the virus appears to particularly affect those over 60, and people already ill.
In the first large analysis of more than 44,000 cases from China, the death rate was 10 times higher in the very elderly compared to the middle-aged.
But most patients have only mild symptoms and the death rate appears to be between 2% and 5%, the WHO said." -BBC
(If there is something that you've found that you think should be here, please let me know! =)
- No freaking out. Take a deep breath. Did you do that? Ok, good, now you can keep reading.
- The virus is named SARS-CoV-2, the diseases it causes COVID-19
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/11/802352351/new-coronavirus-gets-an-official-name-from-the-world-health-organization
- CDC Telebriefing held on 2/28/2020
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0228-COVID-19-update.html
- Symptoms are similar to that of the common cold, but can lead to more serious developments such as pneumonia and organ failure.
- The greatest at-risk population is the elderly and those with existing, underlying illnesses.
"“We do not understand the disease pyramid properly”, adds Whitworth. “There are people who are asymptomatic, people who are infected with mild disease, people infected with severe disease, and then the people who die. It looks like 15–20% of confirmed cases are severely ill, and something like 3% have died. But we have no idea how this fits in with the total number of cases”. "- The Lancet
- Like other respiratory infections, the coronavirus spreads between people in droplets from coughs and sneezes....it is still too early to know what its death rate will be. " - Reuters
- "...experts say much is still unknown, including its mortality rate and transmission routes." -Reuters
- Due to the nature of the virus, it is present in both the respiratory tract and the intestinal tract (and therefore is present in feces of the infected.)
- The Virus appears to be able to infect individuals before symptoms show in some cases. This is a important development. This means the incubation period (average of 10 days, 1-14) is ALSO the time you can be infecting others, vs other pathogens where you have to be showing symptoms to be infectious, such as SARS, to which the virus is 70% similar to, genetically.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0214-covid-19-update.html.html
- The Virus has been declared a global health emergency by the World Health Organization
- "Human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCoV has been confirmed, with an R0 of 1·4–2·5. Many more cases are expected. On Jan 30, 2020, WHO declared a public health emergency of international concern. “The main reason for this declaration is not because of what is happening in China, but because of what is happening in other countries”, commented WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom." - TheLancet https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30056-4/fulltext
- There are confirmed cases of human-to-human transmission outside China.
- A study has been released detailing incubation rate/how long it lives on the surface of objects. (2-10 days incubation*Update below*, and lives on surfaces up to 9 days)
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext
*There is reports of the incubation period now extending up to 27 days.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health/new-coronavirus-cases-fall-in-china-but-who-concerned-by-global-spread-idUSKCN20G05W
- The Virus has been successfully grown in a lab outside China, aiding research efforts.
- The CFR (mortality rate) has been evaluated, and ranges from 18% in Wuhan, to 1.2-5.6% in other nations. It varies widely due to available resources/care/etc. This is a current estimate, and is cautious that it may continue to change.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-2019-nCoV-severity-10-02-2020.pdf
- A large study has been released evaluating who is at the most risk. Thus far, it appears to be elderly/hospital workers.http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9a9b-fea8db1a8f51
I'd advise everyone to get their Prescriptions filled, as the virus has now caused its first drug manufacturing shortage. If possible, see if a 3 month plan is available (or a higher dose to allow halving, giving an extra month.)
https://www.businessinsider.com/fda-announces-first-coronavirus-drug-shortage-2020-2
And, as a user brought up, don't forget your furry (or scaly) friends. Get some extra pet food/accessories.
*********To those who are just starting their preparations, I suggest these simple beginnings*********
Water, Food, First Aid, Flashlight/batteries, Radio.
-Water: Best would be dedicated containers, but in a pinch, the 1-gallon jugs work just fine (just don't last beyond a year or two) And they're cheap! Aim for about 1-2 gal/person/day.
-Food: Canned food is great! It's cheap, lasts forever, but a bit bulky. Just buy a bit extra than you usually do (if you eat canned foods,) otherwise just put together canned 'meals' and go from there!
-First Aid Kit: If you don't have any training, that's fine- a typical wal-mart one will do fine. Maybe snag some extra medications that you may need (antibiotic ointment, allergy meds, etc.)
-Batteries/Flashlight- LED is a great option and cheap nowadays!
-Radio- any radio off amazon/that can receive emergency channels will work. Goal is to be able to get information if the power is out.*****************************************************************************************
- There is increasing spread outside of China. CDC has recommended Americans prepare for a potentially 'severe disruption of life' within the states.
- Community transmission has been confirmed in the United States, along with its first death.
-There are multiple indicators that the numbers reported by China are not reliable.
- There was a constant 2.1% (+ or - about .1-.2%) reported fatality rate, without much variation (EVEN with this jump in cases/deaths), and that is another indicator of data manipulation, as well as the cases following a quadratic curve. (and reported cases/deaths dropping sharply after an announcement by the Chinese President)
- China appears to be more concerned with economic status than addressing the outbreak.
- Journalists covering the outbreak continue to be missing/otherwise unable to post updates or contact family.****************************************************************************************
FEMA recommends 1 week of supplies for a general crisis- this would be a good time to make sure that's in place at a bare minimum for any crisis. A pandemic requires significantly more supplies than a week (months.)
The discovered contagious incubation period, 9 day surface survival time, and confirmed human-to-human transmission is a disturbing find, and this continues further watching with caution. A high R0 (R-Naught), how many people are infected per one sick, is also rather high.
Resources: https://www.ready.gov/kit
https://www.readyrating.org/Resource-Center/All-Resources/shelter-in-place-supplies-checklist
https://www.thereadystore.com/diy/1608/9-essentials-sheltering-place/
I'm more than willing to offer recommendations on how to get started if it seems too daunting, as 3 days to 1 week is the bare minimum for any general disaster/crisis to have on hand, let alone a global pandemic (to which this has not progressed to just yet, however)
Food, water, first aid kit, battery-powered radio, flashlight is the backbone of an emergency kit/stash.
I'll keep these updates coming daily, stay safe everyone, and thank you for reading,
-Bunker J.
Any and all support is greatly appreciated as these daily posts/answering questions is all done in my free time amid a full time job/graduate work. And...well, bills. =P
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Shifting to Ko-Fi vs gofundme, as someone asked for an alternative, and this one is more sustainable I think. While I don't drink coffee...just replace that with an MRE! XD
I cannot thank those who have supported me enough in this, I really do appreciate it!
Maps and Charts:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
and
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/coronavirus-spreading-fast-outside-china-airports-to-increase-screenings-idUSKBN20P1LO?il=0
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-latest-factbox/latest-on-the-spread-of-coronavirus-around-the-world-idUSKBN20P1PT
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51712437
fishandchip
Coming from WA w/ a child who is immunocompromised I want to give you praise for the age death chart. It relieved SO much of my anxiety
bitchgotaname
Thanks for the updates, I find them better than the news!
lagavulin16
This post saves me so much time digging through the regular media BS. Thanks!
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
To quote John Oliver "If you're licking Subway Poles, you should worry a bit, if you're gargling bleach, calm the fuck down!"
shmaggie
Thank you. I commonly refer my friends to these posts for a comprehensive understanding of this virus.
TheDaxicans
I would too if I had any
stupidbastardinutah
Can't tell you how much I appreciate your continued efforts & compiling of information. This puts my mind more at ease every day.
Deletethisonemods
It’s about to get fun for the anti-vaccination weirdos
GLaDOSoftheFUNK
Let's just hope the vaccine doesn't take 2 years like I heard a doctor say
TheRealWhaleLord
We really can't thank you enough for these updates. Wonderful to have some unbiased news for once.
CongratsYouAreHereNow
see update... scroll down to warning level... same as yesterday? alright, chill
Completelyrandomsentence1
Alternatively why not check out the cdc, ecdc and who websites which have real expert advice from people who are actually experts.
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
Except dots are never removed, Wisconsin's was given a clean bill of health so these aren't accurate.
BurtTyrannosaurusMacklinFBl
Why would they be removed? If they had a case that was cleared it's likely there's other untested cases in the region
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
@BunkerJohn, I’ve been meaning to mention that you cite both Worldmeters and Worldometers in your posts; I assume one is a typo. Thank you!
BunkerJohn
Dang, yup! Thank you!
LucienSeptim
I read this every everynight before bed. Thank you for compiling this data for us.
zerozolo
How on earth do you sleep?
StarSauce
In a bed, probably
AngstAussie
I'm glad it's not the same for kids as elderly. Most diseases treat both of those groups rougher than regular adults
pancreasmama
I very much appreciate you posting this before you left for your evening thing you have planned.
galexyalexy
Hi, I love what you're doing here, but as a kiwi I need to point out your dot on nz is wrong, its located on Wellington and should be...
galexyalexy
...On Auckland which is further north and the only place with a confirmed coronavirus victim.
MADchemEE
i.imgur.com/pieQcOC.png The same data (cases outside of China) on a Logarithmic scale. Allows easier visualization.
fourbabiesinatrenchcoat
made it clickable
MADchemEE
Thanks!
dickbutttt
the new ones in Florida and NY came from Iran and Italy. fantastic..
lagomorpha
I work across the street from Sarasota Hospital where one patient was. Shoppers are freaking tf out. Nearly all sanitizing stuff sold out 1/
lagomorpha
And ppl driving like putzes in the parking lot. I watched one guy nearly hit an old lady. His truck bumper hit her cart and nearly tipped it
CantankerousCantaloupe
The current ones in Finland are also from Italy, the one Chinese tourist we had in january was contained properly. They really fucked up.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Good luck in Finland, y'all are my favorite northern Europeans.
werenotreallystrangers
So when this over and done with (next year), I’m thinking we owe John a few hundred beers?
Strugglecityliveshere
Damn straight. I'll get in line to buy him one
TheDaxicans
Corona? Or Negra Modelo?
GumontheLeg
Has the three second rule been cancelled yet?
pancreasmama
LengSpider
3 seconds? It's five seconds!
FuzzyX
Kiss an infected person on the mouth for two seconds to test that theory. Science says 1000 kisses minumum for valid statistics.
Myowngrampa
2 thousand seconds of kissing?! Count me in
EmberRingtail
Nuh its still just 2 seconds, splitover 1000 people, you are essentially headbutting them
Myowngrampa
FuzzyX
Starting to sound like cooking a chicken through a kinetic thermal slap.
DuckDuckDRAGON
This might be a stupid question and sorry if it sounds in insensitive. What’s killing people, does it shut down organs? Prevent breathing?
garfield529
Not a stupid question. This is fundamental and objective to understanding morbidity and mortality.
422000
It affects the lungs severely from my understanding. Here is a survivor's pov. https://time.com/5783838/coronavirus-symptoms-wuhan-survivor/
sweetnaivety
They think it's possible that the virus gets into the brain and causes respiratory failure..
sweetnaivety
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25728
ScottaHemi
pneumonia. usually in people already with breathing issues or compromised immune systems.
fourbabiesinatrenchcoat
I think most commonly it causes viral pneumonia, which fills alveoli (part of lungs where oxygen enters blood) with liquid which prevents
Wankathon
So basically you drown, great
fourbabiesinatrenchcoat
oxygen getting into your bloodstream.
TXTornado
I believe it causes acute respiratory distress(ARDS). Mainly this occurs with the elderly and those who have preexisting medical conditions.
Notdoinganythingtoday
If you look forward to this post, definitely check out the discord server. Thanks John!
FailingAtLife
I just downloaded discord today and clicked the above link to join. It tells me on the app that there are no text channels. Help?
stabthecrab
Brah. Just go here. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/. Wait I literally just wrote this to you
Stormandcoolstuff
Knowledge saves lives, thanks!
Chols
What does the end game look like? Contain until all infected recover so it can’t be passed on anymore?
d0o0o0d
fourbabiesinatrenchcoat
Currently the rhetoric is slowing down the spread to buy time for antivirals and vaccine trials.
CantankerousCantaloupe
Too late for that, too widespread in too many places, now we delay and contain it as well as we can year or so until there's a good vaccine.
Nethyl
Adding to the other comments, contain and prevent as much as possible to reduce overloading hospitals.
Iseealittlesilhouettoofamanscaramouche
Contain as much as possible to SLOW the transmission until a treatment is available. It’s been said early on this will become communal.
RenaissanceFaireMan
SuperPickle17
if no vaccine is develop, it will become a seasonal virus like the flu...
Chols
Why would this be seasonal? Does warm weather limit transmission?
SuperPickle17
winter is when people come togather because it's cold. And also when school in secession.
TXTornado
Thanks to your posts I started gathering supplies early last week! We’re set to ride it out here in San Antonio!
JimFromMarketing
The infection spread is high but death rate is low. More ppl due from normal influenza every year, and it has a vaccine!. It's overblown
EatsBees
hi fellow San Antonio person! hope you were away from North Star Mall this weekend
FuzzyX
Good luck and hopefully the virus never comes close.
imakeurglassesfoggy
I’m supposed to go to a conference in san antonio, they still haven’t canceled ugh
Jessicoon
My aunt is going to a conference there to, I keep trying to tell her its not worth it. Shes 60 & not in the best health. Hope they cancel
sushiengineer
There's no more toilet paper in my area at the moment. I hope I don't get the guts anytime soon
lamoinejeff
Gotta get that sweet jet stream bidet and never worry about that
prepareforassholecomment
Whelp... looks like I’m wiping my ass with the bath mat whilst sitting in the sink with running water.
CurvedEarth
sugarmamaofcats
Sam's membership comes in handy at this point. Delivery
Obijesus
I ordered off amazon. $19 for 30 rolls
CantankerousCantaloupe
Was it even the luxury quadruple layer stuff or just a ripoff?
Obijesus
Well...its better than having no toilet paper, but just barely
dajuan
Just use the shower. Come on, gotta learn to touch your butt hole sometime in your life!
sibbly
GLaDOSoftheFUNK
Look for an alternative, like wet naps or if it comes down to it some rags you can rinse off and reuse.
sparky2539
As someone from the PNW, I appreciate the non-political information and real-time 24/hr updates.
StarSauce
As someone from washington, specificially king county, I've got a gas mask in the mail
iwishihadanamazingusername
Have you been to Costco?
fishandchip
I went there last Saturday. Mad house.
Sakenomi
Same. Toilet paper sold out.
GorgeousGen
Thank you! Multiple Costcos (in Orange County) were sold out of paper goods and rice. Hospitals locally see uptick in pneumonia patients!
dajuan
Well as an Asian I welcome to come to Asian grocery stores to get rice, you know, if you don't mind our sneeze.
GorgeousGen
Also local firefighters in Irvine are being isolated due to potentially handling a patient.
Omoi113
Can I get a source please. I am the one in my fam and close circle of friend who get all the info and update. I am not telling them ....1/2
Omoi113
without a reliable source. ( I live in L.A. ) Thanks
TXTornado
Feel like the US is in “too little, too late” position in terms of prevention. Now just hoping I’ve prepared enough to ride it out.
JimFromMarketing
The infection spread is high but death rate is low. More ppl due from normal influenza every year, and it has a vaccine!. It's overblown
lotrmith
It literally has at minimum a 20x higher death rate than influenza.
guannabislord
hitaguywithglasses
How have you prepared??????? Like as in buying vitamins and medicine and stuff?? Serious question
loser9999
Water food medicine(particularly respiratory and fever). Any homeopathic antiviral(some say garlic helps) soap and toiletries.
loser9999
If you want a more detailed list pm me
sweetiebobeatie
Water, protein, toilet paper.
lotrmith
I don't think you need water. Utilities go down in natural disasters (earthquake, hurricane, fire) or war.
JeffGoldblumsLeftNut
Dried beans and rice by the 50lb bag, cooking oil, canned tuna, canned tomato and pineapple juice for vitamin C
sweetiebobeatie
So glad my mother in law is Asian. She has enough rice to choke a horse
Begotten
Ride what out?
TheDaxicans
Mass hysteria
absoluttalent
You heard the leaders... It's gonna be gone in April. You just need a month ?
filben7
In a month this shit will be spread across the entire country.
FuzzyX
rsktkr
He is incoherent. I would literally feel better having Justin Bieber in charge over him.
FuzzyX
Trump, Feb. 10: Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the...
FuzzyX
heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many...
FuzzyX
of them are in good shape now.
BichesLoveMy120mmSabotPracticeRound
It's like a toddler trying to explain something
Justwarlockthings
God he’s such a fucking moron.
Kingfisher19
We need to build a bubble around the southeast US except Florida before it gets here
CurvedEarth
AlphaSaber
sweetnaivety
There's already cases in Georgia
RenaissanceFaireMan
That's called the Midwest, where the nearest town is 62 miles away.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Already in georgia.
hxchip
2 in Fulton County, GA - one county over from me - just confirmed. Supposed to be self-quarantined with minimal symptoms, but.... yay.... ?
Kingfisher19
Fuck sorry to hear that's to Damn close
pandro
The thing is that we need a list of places a victim went for the 10 days prior. So they can track and check people who had exposure.
hxchip
Agreed. The problem with this disease seems to be the scope and scale of the potential infection rate in terms of proximity and interaction.
hxchip
Combining that with its ability to survive on surfaces (given favorable condition) and the range of its incubation period, it’s a huge mess.
alwaysupvotepitties
What do you think about the lack of testing/ scarcity of tests in the US?
JimFromMarketing
Test how?
JimFromMarketing
The infection spread is high but death rate is low. More ppl due from normal influenza every year, and it has a vaccine!. It's overblown
FailingAtLife
Caught you early tonight. I wait for these updates all day. Thanks @op, I don’t know if you understand how much we all appreciate you.
stabthecrab
Well he does cite the source which 99% of the info comes, updated without having to rely on @op https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Imintotacostuff
Nahh he’s got it
FailingAtLife
I’m aware of the sources, however I still look forward to his posts. All the info grouped together, his thoughts and the rationality he has
FailingAtLife
And I really just appreciate him taking the time to get it all together and make a post everyday for some of us who don’t always have the
FailingAtLife
Time to go looking for all of it. So thanks again @BunkerJohn for everything you do!!
stabthecrab
BunkerJohn
Most welcome! =)
glazmainfindsyou
Thanks for adding the by age death rate. Will calm a lot of people down.
SlobberToilet
Does anyone know if that is taking into account the lag due to incubation time? (Total deaths today divided by Infected 14 days ago)
Derpybearr
I feel like I’d be in a total panic if it weren’t for these posts.
3654798521
Work at a pharmacy, majority of patients are 50+.. before you ask, we don't have masks, Hand Sanitizers or gloves... yes soap is a good alt.
TacTheScribbler
For sure! I'll admit, I grew up getting dirty, so I have a good immune system, but I was getting nervous.
cptwott
the younger the calmer. The older the deader
FuzzyX
And grearly worry those people who have elderly relatives plus those in care homes. At least knowing what is at risk gives society focus.
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
Which is also probably an overestimate at this early stage of infection
Pokegeologist
I have elderly parents, one is immunocompromised. This actually increases my concern.
Btch128
I lost my immunocompromised kiddo, but some public freak out will be good for th ed others like her bc people take hand washing
Btch128
more seriously as well as covering their mouths when sneezing and coughing. (Also should be for the others like her)
3Davideo
Am I correct then that those number compare favorably to the 1918 flu pandemic, which disproportionately hit the young?
d0o0o0d
It's not in the same league as Spanish Flu, but it's still a _lot_ nastier than the usual seasonal bugs.
spossistheboss
Would be useful to compare with regular seasonal flu
Varenvel
death rates are unrelevant , considering long incubation time and so these people got infected 14-28 days ago , what worries me are deaths>
Varenvel
who will start happen from today infection rates in 14-28 days
iluvdis
This. Serious helped so much
Partsx
I want to see data excluding any from china on this. Cant say i trust the numbers coming from that government.
memeMyselfAnEye
Nor from Iran i imagine
GreenNotTheColor
Even this is probably wrong. Until we can test w/ 100% accuracy the infected numbers are most likely higher in turn lowering the death rate.
OffendedSkeleton
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
This
BunkerJohn
Not disagreeing.
BunkerJohn
That was the goal! =) Kids and most healthy adults = good to go.
TXTornado
Definitely alleviated my fears a bit when I realized my kids weren’t super at risk of dying from this!
TheModsAreDBags
Flu-B is killing kids this year...
Chols
I was surprised to hear on the radio children haven’t been infected much.
Zreen
Reminds me of that Star Trek episode where a planet's disease killed off everyone except children and teens
TXTornado
Not sure about the infection rate, but I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw that zero kids aged 0-9 have died from this.
RadicalLeftist
Theres some really interesting disease patterns out there like the spanish flu was particularly bad for healthy individuals.
TXTornado
I’m really curious to read up on the pathophysiology of Covid-19 once we know more about it. Weird demographic/poss reinfection are strange.
Lifeisharddeathissoftlol
I love my grandma though
sbzleon
What about Mitch McConnell
SniffinGriffin
He can definitely be in that 14%
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
She is a sweet lady.
NinjaCongo
I also choose this guy's grandma.
LIJdeJapon
She makes the best cookies
memeMyselfAnEye
Not as good as her pies dough
PotatOSLament
She made me a sweater last Christmas.
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electricgoldfish
Maybe dumb question but if you have these things but they're controlled w/meds does that make a difference?
kittywithagun22
Possibly. It just increases the likelyhood of complications. A 95yo diabetic man wich a congenital heart defect could still be fine while(1)
kittywithagun22
A young healthy individual could hit the shit lottery and wind up in ICU. It is like generalmagnov said they are just risk factors for comps
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generalmagnov
They are at high risk yeah. But remember there is overlap in the "Over 80" and "People with CVD" categories, meaning you can't just add them
Misora
My dad's 75, Cvd and currently on chemo (in remission). His dr says not to leave the house. They suspended his chemo for 2 weeks.
HolyHellJezebel
My parents are in their late 70's. My father has COPD and my mom has mild heart failure. I'm borderline freaking out.
kittywithagun22
Deep breaths. Remember, these are not addative, and the same cases would be represented in multiple catagories. They may be higher risk but
kittywithagun22
It is certainly not like a death sentance. Early detection and supportive care can still be game changers. These are things the doc would
kittywithagun22
Likely know and would monitor them very closely since this kind of info is becoming more readily available.
HolyHellJezebel
My dad is 1 of 13. I've lost 6 aunts and uncles in the last 4 months. The most recent Friday. Sickness and time are my enemy.
keithhdz10
I’m right there on that freak out border with you
garamasike
My dad is 85, my mom is 74. They are also both microbiologists and still work full-time at their university, so on the one hand they know 1/
garamasike
A shit-ton more abt infectious diseases than I do, & will be smart. Bt they also keep getting respiratory infections after trips for work 2/
garamasike
So if they do get sick, I think it will be really dangerous for them. 3/3
Kemi337
Both my parents have COPD. I've attempted to caution them but they'd rather listen to Daddy Trump and he says everything is fine.
HolyHellJezebel
Mentioning Trump is a good way to get my dad angry. My parents hate him.
Kemi337
That's good. I'm a scientist and have to watch my Dad listen to propaganda instead of research. Home life isn't great that way.