Oddly enough this is about a Tanker that was sneaking Iranian oil to the Russians outside of sanctions. The one hurt at the end of this is a Russian Oligarch. This seems, even with all the shit, a legit good move if everything tracks.
Once again Trumpism feels like a parody made real. When we (US) attacked Iraq there was a lot of reasons to think it was actually about seizing the oil. But at least Bush put some effort into hiding it. Technically Trump is saying this is about drugs and international crimes, but doesn't bother explaining why that requires blowing up small boats and stealing big boats.
The day I don't have to read any of his incoherent 3rd grade rants will be a day of great joy for the entire world. (I don't listen to him speak out of self preservation: I want to stab my eardrums with an icepick when I hear him 'meander'). https://imgur.com/WAt74nl
Sanctioned ships that have been supplying Iranian oil to terrorist orgs/russia under sanctions. Yes. There are laws to the sea and the majority of the world laid the responsibility on the USA (because of our slow enter into WW2 and our capitalist nature and etc etc) USA to enforce them often. See: Sea of China.
Yeah the targeting of those other boats appears directly in contrast with the mission. While I'm not read in on any of it the information we have, such as shooting men at sea, reveals a lack of fucking honor that disgusts and enrages me. The tankers are a different game, its kinda like holding a hostage.
Similar. Both the Spanish American War, and the Vietnamese War were accelerated by attacks on American Warships. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1890)<">890)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1890)</a> and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
It's just another lawless and unaccountable day for Trump's turd reich. I'll probably have a heart attack if he's ever held accountable for anything, it's beyond fucking disgusting how he's teflon but everyone else can't do shit. We failed as a nation and should be ashamed.
I'm perfectly willing to believe that this is a legitimate seizure, if the evidence backs it up, but holy shit, the timing and optics are sketchy as FUCK.
Mainly because Trump needs some kind of War to justify using the War Powers Act against US citizens. Also a distraction from the fact that he is a pedophile.
If I was Germany, the Netherlands, Italy, or any of the myriad other nations that physically store their gold in the United States, I would do everything in my power to bring that gold home today after this act of piracy. You cannot truly believe that you are in possession of anything for which the United States is a steward after this. If Trump can order the military to do this, then he can effortlessly raid the Federal Reserve Bank in New York City if he sees personal gain in it.
I wouldn't be surprised, hence why those nations should hurry. Gold is something bigger than human civilizations (just ask all of the ghosts of those who tried to establish human civilization without it), and if Trump disappears your nation's gold to Russia, Saudi Arabia, or god knows where, then it will be gone from you forever. Act yesterday.
This was a tanker that was under sanction from years back for being part of Russia/Irans fleet that would supply Iranian oil to terrorists. Thats a thing we knew, the guy who owns all of this (the one being hurt here) is a Russian Oligarch. The ship has changed a lot but its the same one thats been used to spread bunch of wicked shit at the behest of Putins minions. So this isn't some evil attack on Venezuela in any sense.
Learn about the ship, its actually really interesting. As a Veteran this made me lose my shit but I HAD to be sure. So I did some digging and the end result is this... this is an attack on Putin and Iran. This is a threat, enforcing sanctions that were being ignored by a captain/ship/owner supplying the wars against innocent people all over. This SEEMS SO FAR a clean and good thing. Which again, is odd I agree.
On Russia, you're saying its an act of war on Russia to follow the law? Read more into this, you're getting the headline and not seeing whats going on actually. There are laws to the sea, you can't just do whatever the fuck you want. The USA is often the one policing it, we got the responsibility after WW2, look to how we stop China and move our ships around near China to protect Taiwan. Etc.
SisyphusRollin
Oddly enough this is about a Tanker that was sneaking Iranian oil to the Russians outside of sanctions. The one hurt at the end of this is a Russian Oligarch. This seems, even with all the shit, a legit good move if everything tracks.
RealityInflicted
Look at that, emulating the Iran playbook even further. The US is really turning into western Iran. and Cunt-A-Lago its Mecca.
enkrypt3d
what the fuck is the point of doing this? fucking idiot and a criminal arrest him!!!! NOW!!! ...
dixxienormus
These fascists have made an undeclared war. So....the rules of war don't apply.
Bundalicious
A felonious pedophile, murderer and now a pirate?
ReaperCDN
"We stole it so it's ours now."
QuantumInc
Once again Trumpism feels like a parody made real. When we (US) attacked Iraq there was a lot of reasons to think it was actually about seizing the oil. But at least Bush put some effort into hiding it. Technically Trump is saying this is about drugs and international crimes, but doesn't bother explaining why that requires blowing up small boats and stealing big boats.
MaddogDelphi1997
I'm interested in the seizure of this tanker too
Kotarisu
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-seized-oil-tanker-off-the-coast-of-venezuela-trump-says/
The 'justification' seems to be: "The Skipper was sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department in 2022 for alleged ties to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and Hezbollah."
idrinkcheapbeer
I have a feeling "Privateers" are going to make a comeback.
mrsparkle001
How is this not a crime? The fact they're claiming the oil is illicit and sanctioned?
TripleDane
lol its just so infantile the way her talks.
its always the biggest ever or the best over. like how a toddle would tell a story
OhIfIMust
I'm amazed that he hasn't straight-up called someone a doodie-head.
TofuGolem
Every member of the US Navy is officially a pirate now.
wickerandcork
I’m confused, they seized a Marshall Islands registered oil tanker and release the Epstein Files!
MikeRInternetTraveler
Can he please just fucking keel over and die already?!
ricpaul
The day I don't have to read any of his incoherent 3rd grade rants will be a day of great joy for the entire world. (I don't listen to him speak out of self preservation: I want to stab my eardrums with an icepick when I hear him 'meander'). https://imgur.com/WAt74nl
blau79
So we're just pirates now?
OceansRust
Aye!
nukemall
This is actually privateering which is (under most modern definitions) an act of war. Something that must be authorized by Congress if memory serves.
TheLastGreatAudit
It's telling that the people actually making these decisions for him are too young to remember how scary OPEC is when it gets it's shit together.
SciFiGuy2018
Sounds like grand theft larceny to me.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Simple piracy... an enemy of all mankind, hostis humani generis
AyatollahBahloni
"We should have taken the oil." - The Orange Pig Anus, speaking about Iraq. The fucking asshole thinks everything in the world belongs to him.
Corrodias
Of course, that is not in question, but what is in question is, what are you or anyone else going to do about it?
MapleSyrupMafia
So... they can intercept boats?
SisyphusRollin
Sanctioned ships that have been supplying Iranian oil to terrorist orgs/russia under sanctions. Yes. There are laws to the sea and the majority of the world laid the responsibility on the USA (because of our slow enter into WW2 and our capitalist nature and etc etc) USA to enforce them often. See: Sea of China.
MapleSyrupMafia
What I meant is that they apparently can intercept boats and not just blow them up.
SisyphusRollin
Yeah the targeting of those other boats appears directly in contrast with the mission. While I'm not read in on any of it the information we have, such as shooting men at sea, reveals a lack of fucking honor that disgusts and enrages me. The tankers are a different game, its kinda like holding a hostage.
lamontcranston
"from the standpoint of news" - why say this
FinancialRavioli
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9h0sjw/trump_on_hurricane_florence_one_of_the_wettest/
Seems to be how he talks when he doesn't have anything to say.
Elsoyyo
"It was a large tanker, very large. Largest one ever seized." Many people say that. Trump's patter is on autopilot.
Firestar002
Me: “How many have been seized prior to this one? Tankers specifically.”
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Isn't this a retread of how the Veitnam war was kick-started?
TheCunningLinguists
Similar. Both the Spanish American War, and the Vietnamese War were accelerated by attacks on American Warships. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1890)<">890)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1890)</a> and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
TheCunningLinguists
We also almost went to war (again! still!) when North Korea captured a US military spy ship in 1968. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
androgenoide
I'm puzzled. Is this piracy or an act of war?
GreenMnM
Yes
SomeDetroitGuy
Both
Roune
Yes
Hooliganius
It's just another lawless and unaccountable day for Trump's turd reich. I'll probably have a heart attack if he's ever held accountable for anything, it's beyond fucking disgusting how he's teflon but everyone else can't do shit. We failed as a nation and should be ashamed.
QuantumInc
People have declared war over piracy before.
Nephytis
Yes, Probably a few murders too.
nclu
When the world's most powerful navy is led by a gangster...
Blunderwriter
And a navy that capitulated to his whims. Too.
thatguyfromny
So much more info I'd like. Such as why was it seized?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
the ship was a Russian billionaire's but it was smuggling Venezuelan oil, presumably to Turkey, India or China
Corrodias
he wanted it
Dyamonde
This. That's all there's to it. No deeper meaning, no bigger plan. All other reasons are ad-hoc lies.
whoatherebigfella
If only a legitimate source was posted then we’d all know. Instead we get a bunch of hearsay in your comments.
maliciousGman
It was originally sanctioned back in 2022 by the US Treasury. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8jvll9j81o
FinancialRavioli
And apparently it was flying another nation's flag (Guyana), while being owned by Iran, which is very illegal in maritime law.
OhIfIMust
I'm perfectly willing to believe that this is a legitimate seizure, if the evidence backs it up, but holy shit, the timing and optics are sketchy as FUCK.
battleofhastings1066
Mainly because Trump needs some kind of War to justify using the War Powers Act against US citizens. Also a distraction from the fact that he is a pedophile.
thegoodowl
How. Many. Kids…???
MapleSyrupMafia
Well, apparently it's Russian owned...
LivingDeadX
UmmonPrime
No one is going to go to war with a country with so many weapons and an unhinged leader. That is suicide. The whole thing is just insane..
battleofhastings1066
Two countries don't have to agree to have a war. One of them just starts one.
whoatherebigfella
You forgot to work in your plea to release the Epstein files.
CaldariBob
That was implied with the pedophile thing. Besides, aren't those are coming out pretty soon? The 30 day pause should almost be up.
whoatherebigfella
Yes, they should be out soon. I’m looking forward to it as is the entire country.
BenjyX55
He is, without a doubt, the worst pirate I have ever heard of.
rmichelsen480
Unless he has a parrot on his shoulder there is no brain .
bippityboppitybuttsex
He is hostis humani generis
JRSYJAY
“But you have heard of him”
*sad noise*
BoxZ
Hahah
RElGNMAN
America right now...
KuroFluff
Hey, those bleached, skeletal remains of humans are some of our senior congressmen, show some respect.
TheRedBaron8
So that tanker is owned by Triton Navigation Corp, a company registered in the Marshall Islands. So this is piracy! Lawyer up I believe the term is.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Not to worry.
Trump finally committed the unforgiveable crime.
He fucked with the money.
nasukkin
If I was Germany, the Netherlands, Italy, or any of the myriad other nations that physically store their gold in the United States, I would do everything in my power to bring that gold home today after this act of piracy. You cannot truly believe that you are in possession of anything for which the United States is a steward after this. If Trump can order the military to do this, then he can effortlessly raid the Federal Reserve Bank in New York City if he sees personal gain in it.
skibbyAU
I’m pretty sure that has been happening.
nasukkin
I wouldn't be surprised, hence why those nations should hurry. Gold is something bigger than human civilizations (just ask all of the ghosts of those who tried to establish human civilization without it), and if Trump disappears your nation's gold to Russia, Saudi Arabia, or god knows where, then it will be gone from you forever. Act yesterday.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
and that corp is owned by Viktor Artemov
Roaddog184
Let me guess, a Russian oligarch?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Russian, owns ships, and is alive, so yeah, oligarch
Roaddog184
That will go over well with Drumps puppet master
xlr82xs
Maybe this was a warning. "Fall in line or next time I tell him to seize your daughter..."
veronicablood
HEY! MILITARY GUYS AND GALS! CAN YOU **PLEASE** STOP FOLLOWING THIS FAT A$$HOLE'S ILLEGAL ORDERS? THANKS
SisyphusRollin
This was a tanker that was under sanction from years back for being part of Russia/Irans fleet that would supply Iranian oil to terrorists. Thats a thing we knew, the guy who owns all of this (the one being hurt here) is a Russian Oligarch. The ship has changed a lot but its the same one thats been used to spread bunch of wicked shit at the behest of Putins minions. So this isn't some evil attack on Venezuela in any sense.
veronicablood
IT'S AN ACT OF WAR IS WHAT IT IS
SisyphusRollin
Learn about the ship, its actually really interesting. As a Veteran this made me lose my shit but I HAD to be sure. So I did some digging and the end result is this... this is an attack on Putin and Iran. This is a threat, enforcing sanctions that were being ignored by a captain/ship/owner supplying the wars against innocent people all over. This SEEMS SO FAR a clean and good thing. Which again, is odd I agree.
SisyphusRollin
On Russia, you're saying its an act of war on Russia to follow the law? Read more into this, you're getting the headline and not seeing whats going on actually. There are laws to the sea, you can't just do whatever the fuck you want. The USA is often the one policing it, we got the responsibility after WW2, look to how we stop China and move our ships around near China to protect Taiwan. Etc.
veronicablood
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A FRICKIN PIRATE. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT OR GET FUCKED
SisyphusRollin
He isn't. I'm not.