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NullSecc
It's a shit hole country
Wapusk
CelestialSea
Umm, don't forget the torture, abuse, and murder too.
nation543
Republicanism is what's wrong with the US. Republicans are, and have always been, fascist. They don't believe in democracy, they believe in a republic that they control. They will never turn on one of their own because if they do then they lose control; see: Thomas Massie. If they hold control of House, Senate, and POTUS, then they can do ANYTHING they want so they will never turn on Trump. "That's how you know [they're] a family." - Paul Ryan, former Speaker of the House, now Fox News Board.
wario37
I like how we think this will even become an article of impeachment. And, if it did, he still wouldn’t be removed AGAIN.
FatSexy
Are you okay there in America , specifically the United States?
XaoJet
Congress is broke, start getting ready, we may have to turn this whole bitch on and off again a few times to get it working again.
PathologicalLier
I mean.. as far as i remember he was impeached twice... And nothing happened so.. impeaching does nothing. Why would he care about being impeached a third time?
kanzakat
uhm lets see.... education, news/propaganda at this point, election system, Healthcare etc all controlled by the wrong people
2Soon4Baboon
So you see... you gotta have the senate and the house... AND the majorities need to not have people ALSO in the files or receive massive donations from people in the files or from AIPAC that doesn't want to lose their leverage over the people in the files.
peosratta
The impeachment will come after November, when Democrats sweep the mid terms and get the votes they need. Unless trump manages to disenfranchise enough non maga voters to maintain control. At which point he will likely have everything he needs to launch the pedo reich
awholelotofnothin
1 out of every 5 US women has experienced sexual assault. 98% of rapists are not convicted of their crimes. Less than 8% see the inside of a courtroom. There are decades of rape kits from violent and murderous attacks in a backlog for DNA testing. Epstein had multiple investigations and convictions but continued to operate, rape, and murder women and children. Several women have been murdered recently, but no investigations have been opened into their deaths. Rape is basically legal.
awholelotofnothin
Rapists in half the US have a right to force girls to bear their children. Women are prosecuted for murder for receiving medical attention. Thousands of women are refused medical attention for pregnancies that may kill them. The Save act is reversing women's right to vote. With more restrictions to come. Men can legally assault women and children in bathrooms across the US under the pretext of "checking their genitals." Republicans are lowering the age of consent to prepubescence.
Starfox5
The conservatives. They are what is wrong with America.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Shithole country
rbudrick
There's no such thing as consensual sex with children, so there's no reason to call it non-consensual. The word is rape.
FanBladeFleshlight
Bruh, fuck trump and his wannabe Nazi shit, but please, let's not downplay the power dynamic that Clinton had. Also, he didn't get shit for sex crimes, he got impeached for lying.
SleepyHollowAppleTree
throwaway12345432
Sadly not the people his policies have killed.
bexxMaker
irritabletom
Nonconsensual sex with children is a really clunky and redundant way of saying child rape.
Toqom
Well you see Clinton wasn't a Republican
getadogupya
Technically, they impeached him for lying about it. Good thing the orange shitgibbon would never stoop to lying about anything.
lostlittletimeonthis
Remember when the least stupid thing he did was alter a hurricane path with a sharpie?
TheElliotPage
Google "Republicans"
A2DY79
If you've bothered to read any actual assessment of the Epstein files, you'll see that with the exception of Bannon, his closest political friends were all Democrats.
Bowtie8bit
Absolute nonsense.
ChelVanin
And his best democrat friend was donald trump.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
They didn't convict Clinton either.
Telemapus
Impeachment is the vote in the house of reps, and they send the impeachment up to the Senate to vote on whether POTUS should then be removed from office. Clinton was impeached, and Trump was impeached twice. Neither man was convicted or removed, obv. Clinton was impeached by a Republican majority (plus five Democrats), Trump was impeached by a Democrat majority and TEN Republicans. '
Telemapus
Of course, Trump's crimes were proper abuse of the office, threatening allies, and trying to overturn a legit election. Clinton's crime was lying about a (legally) consensual affair.
BubblesTheFish
"Consensual." There was a LOT of power imbalance in that situation.
Scahrossar
Thanks. Was about to comment just this.
NotyouGuillermo
Yeah, Monica was a victim, a 21 year old intern vs a 49 year old president. And yet she was treated like the villian.
TheJomsborgViking
Christian values. Priests can do it, so why can't rapeublicans?
KittyKlimt6
Muslims do it. Jews do it. Buddhists do it. Germans do it. Nigerians do it. Soldiers do it. Teachers do it. Husbands do it. Fathers do it. I ask y'all, whats the lowest common denominator?
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Rapedocans.
Sorry. I couldn't stop myself from typing it out.
theDewShakenOffMyLily
Trump is a sick fuck.
Sticklebrickk
"Grab them by the pussy." - our president
Harbltron
Just another member of the international Sick Fuck club
A2DY79
This is straight up misinformation. Hate Trump all you want, but if there were any evidence he abused children, the Biden admin would've been all over it. This agitprop is being pushed to further divide America.
m0nkeymagic
Downvoted into oblivion. Just the way a pedo supporter should be.
TheMightyMollusk
Trump sealed the files in his first term under the pretense of an investigation, so Biden never had access to it. An unfortunate downside of Dems trying to actually play by the rules while Republicans wipe their asses with the law.
fattymcfattzz
Dude GTFO with that nonsense, dudes a PDF
m0nkeymagic
Hey! STFU.
Lucariouigi
Bro drank the bleach trump told you to drink
SubtleOrc
"If there were any evidence" you blind ignorant pedophile protecting fuck..
Qaetan
Yea you can fuck right off. Pedo in chief brags about grabbing women by their genitals and hanging out in underage girls' dressing rooms. They didn't redact the abusers' names for nothing.
Humputse
Remember when Trump heard there was "no mention of him in the Epstein files"? I wonder why someone who never did anything wrong with Epstein would even need to hear he wasn't in the files...
OutboardOverlord
There is no such thing as "consensual sex" with children. That's rape. End of argument.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I think we all agree, it was just worded that way for comparison
Cptbluebeard7
There is no comparison, and there are those who use this language to minimize the impact. State it as the horrifying crime that it is, anything else just diminishes it.
hotrodny
Would you call M. Levinsky a child or am i missing smth?
jridley
I think he's quibbling about the phrase "non-consentual sex with children" in that it's a tautology and a misnomer. "Non-consentual" is guaranteed when followed by "sex with children" and a good editor would say "shorten to "rape of children"
likeanenglishlady
A good editor would avoid the r word entirely. It's a very specific term in the context of criminal cases. Just ask George Stephanopoulos.
mycatsings
Monica was 22 at the time of the affair.
MoonPieTown
And an intern...Clinton was a sick f*ck for using his power dynamic to sleep with her. Let's not be naive about that.
Both presidents deserved impeachment for the actions being discussed (and obviously T deserves jail)
Flodos
T deserves a woodchipper.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
That's not true. Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction when he lied about the affair whilst under oath.
thatsbadmmkay
I feel like the point still stands and very strongly that we are not impeaching a child rapist rn
Beefkins
Also impeachment doesn't mean shit if the removal doesn't pass. Trump's been impeached twice, what the fuck do people think impeaching him a third time do?
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Trump swore to faithfully execute the laws of this country, then led an insurrection to overturn a free and fair election. There is absolutely no comparison to be found.
KatLuvr54
We know that, it was because of Monica that they pursued him.
chris16447
I vividly recall the whole thing DOMINATING the news cycle when it happened, but for Trump it's Tuesday. Not even worth reporting.
michiyl
It was a different media landscape back then. Not everything was owned by right-wing billionaires yet.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Did he go to jail?
cytherians
Poppypoppoppop
Trump lies about everything under oath or not. Still not impeached and removed.
Cincinasty
In addition to disbarring him.
phalanxausage
All of it came after Ken Starr was hired as independent counsel to investigate a real estate deal, then went fishing for anything he could use to smear the Democrat in office. The whole thing was partisan bullshit from that unamerican scum fuck, Newt Gingrich, fraudulently begun and executed unprofessionally. Clinton should not have been testifying on the matter in the first place. Fun fact! Brett kavanaugh served as Ken Starr's deputy during this whole sordid mess.
TeamSpicyTacos
Funny how ken starr turns up as the supposed victims lawyer, clintons investigator, and trumps defense attorney.
SunnyKontucchi
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makesense
And the perjury was during Paula Jones's civil trial, not about Monica.
johnblood616
Look up "pedantic"
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
It's not a crime to have a consensual relationship with someone. It's a crime to lie under oath.
phalanxausage
The entire legal profession is rooted in pedantry.
superanth
Same with Watergate: it wasn’t the act, it was the coverup.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Which, might I add, is a very important distinction given that Trump will lie about everything if he's ever under oath.
BeaverOnFire
So... It's about consistency, not the actual action? 🤔
ShitpostsAndLotsOfThem
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-trump-lied-under-oath-about-georgia-voter-fraud-claims-2022-10
NooPogodi
I don't know if that man knows what truth sounds like anymore
swedeonamoose
Oh he wont outright lie, just suffer an extreme sudden memory loss, like every time someone asks him about previous statements.
NZSheeps
"Jeffrey who? Never heard of him."
JustinArnold
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DevilsAdvocat
oh, no, he will lie, that's why he's basically never been questioned under oath..
BananaForScaIe
He lied under oath in court many times...
AbsolutelyNotBacon
He lacks the restraint and awareness to claim that he doesn't know. He would lie like he always does.
raknor88
That's why he's never been brought into a situation where he is under oath. IIRC, he's never testified in any of the times he's been on trial.
ShitpostsAndLotsOfThem
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-trump-lied-under-oath-about-georgia-voter-fraud-claims-2022-10
abrazenfool
“The president is ALWAYS under oath” - GOP
martineb72
Actually no. Under oath he said he didn't have sex with her, while his lawyers in that court defined sex as actual intercourse. Which he didn't do. What he was truly impeached for was lying on TV to the public that he didn't have sexual relations with her. He didn't do like most people that don't listen to their lawyer, and shut the fuck up.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
That is not true. His impeachment was for lying under oath and obstruction of justice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
martineb72
And a cop can arrest you for resisting arrest without any other crime, doesn't mean that is valid. While under oath he never technically lied. While I am sure he did other illegal things, in this case his lawyer made the court define sexual relations as only penis in a pussy.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
All of that is completely irrelevant. He was impeached for lying under oath. Whether he did or not is irrelevant. The indisputable fact is that he was impeached for lying under oath.
Frodyne
Well, if we want to be completely accurate, then he was impeached but acquitted - which is similar to being arrested but found not guilty.
UNHchabo
Not to mention that consent is questionable when it's an employee and their boss.
Yetiphobia
Consent isn't questionable when said employee comes out gunning for the boss. What sucked for her was the way she was treated in the aftermath. And oh yes that she was secretly taped by her best friend at the behest of a Republican headhunter
OhIfIMust
Exactly, and it was on company (i.e. *OUR*) time.
Mountons
Good point!
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
That would be an issue today, but it wasn't in the 90s.
GungaWunga
Most certainly was.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Legally, it wasn't an issue.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Marital rape was still legal in some states until 1993, but it was always wrong. Wife beating (potentially followed by marital rape) was legal until 1920. And if you go further back it was legal in the South to have your slaves torn apart by dogs. In case it needs to be made really fucking obvious that everything we've outlawed because we've come to realize that it's harmful and ethically indefensible has always been wrong, all the way back through history.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Of course, but this post is about legalities, not morality.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
I thought this subthread was about consent. Legal consent has taken a long time to catch up with actual, ethical consent, and it still has a few more miles to go (think fully informed and risk-aware consent).
ausernamewhat
Nope
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Yep. Sexual harassment laws have changed significantly in the last 30 years. Even today, it is hard to argue cooersion - impossible if the relationship is consensual - but it was almost completely impossible in the 90s.
UNHchabo
I'd argue it's something that changed over the course of the 90s.
In 1994 the Law&Order episode "Virtue" aired, where they decide to prosecute a lawyer for "larceny by extortion" for demanding sex in exchange for a partnership. At the time they treated it as completely novel to view that as a prosecutable crime.
Then by 1999 L&O SVU aired, and that show had a much more modern view of consent even in season 1.
UsernameAlreadyTaken058
If it truly wasn't an issue in the 90s, then why the inquiry and the subsequent perjury?
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Because he lied to the American people under oath. He lied about having an affair with Lewinski. The impeachment was about lying, not the affair itself.
darthnerdus6236
That doesn't minimize the power imbalance between the President of the United States and a 22 year old. Getting impeached for lying doesn't take anything away from that.
UsernameAlreadyTaken058
You're confusing the chain of events. For him to lie under oath the inquiry must have started BEFORE that. So why did it start in the first place, if it all wasn't such a big deal?