How I make Stainless Damascus

Mar 1, 2016 1:37 PM

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So I don't have pictures of the set up. But basically what I have rocking is alternating sheets of .018" 304 and 316 stainless. The addition of a small amount of nickle in the 316 alloy gives the contrast.

The sheets are about 1" x 1.5", sandwiched between two 3/8" thick stainless blocks, compressed to 16 tons with a hydraulic press, and bolted in place. It doesn't look like it here, but I can't stress enough the cleanliness involved in the set up. The plates must be completely free of oxides, oils, everything.

I sanded the pieces to 400 grit, then red scotchbrite, then used lint free cloth and lacquer thinner, followed by denatured alcohol. Definitely wear nitrile gloves to keep away finger oils.

I've since upgraded forges, but this one is a 25lb propane cylinder lined with sealed ceramic fiber blanket.

Stainless creates incredibly hard and durable oxides when it's heated like this. Ideally this would all be done in a stainless steel foil pouch, backfilled with charcoal to absorb free oxygen and heated in an electronically/atmospherically controlled oven to about 2400 degrees F.

I have a homemade gate to hell, but it works too.

The rule of thumb for heat treatment is 1 hour per inch of thickness, so I soaked this piece for about 2 hours at near melting temperature.

After the plates are removed, oxides cleaned up, and forging to a block.

Voila

You can see the third layer up I accidentally doubled up a piece of 316 and ended up with an extra thick layer. Oops.

It's then drawn out and twisted many times to make the pattern

And then flattened

Here's a heel from the block, I carry this on my keychain now.

The most exciting part, the first reveal. Here I'm etching in ferric chloride to get a pattern preview.

Another pattern shot.

Measure 4 times and cut.

Then take it...

and make a circle.

Silver soldering the joint.

Now it's together but not cleaned up yet. I use a 2x72 belt grinder from Grizzly Industrial for most of my finish work.

Awwww yissssss

Finish products

Wootz the price of this? I hope it's a steel

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Sauron approves

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

How is it drawn out?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love how digital cameras make growing orange look purple

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is so metal!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That is what we got for our wedding - damasteel with white gold. Looks incredibly good, but the rings were more expensive than gold ones.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fuckin' rad, dude.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

very nice sir

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

How do you not burn out all of the Chromium ??

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I just use a modified homemade arc welder, a hollow fire brick, styrofoam, and play sand to make cool shit. Cheap and easy.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

howto pls?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Look up Grant Thompson on YouTube. He has easy to follow videos about all of the above. It is dangerous shit than can kill, though.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Can you show a Swedish product please, them Finns are too sneaky to trust

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm looking for a new wedding band, do you have an etsy or anything?

10 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 0

I don't have an etsy set up yet, but PM if you're interested

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This Is Awesome! How about a picture of that motorcycle?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Did you soak the steel in metal?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

He said ferric chloride, or an acid made of iron and chlorine.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

-_-

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What an elaborate and time consuming process, but the final results are amazing. Good job, OP.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Awesome job, @OP and I can totally respect the craft ... except this isn't true Damascus steel, it's pattern welding, which is an imitation.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

oooooh, pretty!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Please tell me you sell these!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wa! I taught u were gonna make a knife.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

noice

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's pretty nice. I have a Damascus wedding band myself.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Do you have a website where you sell these?

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

I want to know too

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Come on OP! Wanna make some $ to pay for that gateway to hell?

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Instructions unclear. Made 230 iron daggers.

10 years ago | Likes 463 Dislikes 3

but at least you leveled up

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't worry, just use them to get your enchanting up.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

+100 Smithing

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Same amount of experience

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Up you go!

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

In his Smithing Level?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pshh good luck selling all of those at the grand exchange. Might as well go to the general store and sell until you give them away.

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Drop them as a bank note! Hahaha

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Runescape reference on a Skyrim joke. I love it.

10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

Nice trick...liar!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This ring obviously gives +4 to all resistances.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

+3 health or +7 charisma when worn on female nipple actually

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

do you sell these?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I just got married and spent all my saved money on our wedding and her ring. Is there anyway I could have you make one and pay a little for

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A ring like this? I don't have much money but I do have people that will buy these for themselves too

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

@OP: This is not Damascus. It's pattern welded. Damascus steel is made from pattern welded Wootz steel.

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But nobody knows how to do actual Damascus anymore, so what's the point of arguing?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Splitting hairs there between the current definition of Damascus in modern smithing and an old technique no one's quite figured out.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There was some guy's documentary who used period technology & made what appeared to be Damascus steel. He even made his own charcoal.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The methods of creating true Damascus steel were also lost to the ages. Give the guy a break.Calling this method Damascus is common enough.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Technically you're correct if you want to be super pedantic about it. However, damascus and pattern welded are commonly interchanged today.

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Well they shouldn't be.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

It's just not the same thing. The crystalline structure and chemical composition is very specific in Damascus.

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 6

Mmm crucible steel..

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

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10 years ago (deleted Jun 28, 2016 7:29 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Read the first thing the Wikipedia site says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Explained: Damascus is a pattern welded (forging method) steel, made exclusively with the Wootz crucible steel.

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'Tick tick' :) +1

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You're not wrong, it's just a colloquialism.

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forget them, I think its awesome whatever the hell you call it. Also I didn't know you could layer stainless like that. +1 for education.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He is wrong, so are you. ;) This style of jewelry is called mokume gane, a Japanese technique. It would fit the pattern for the 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 7

colloquial 'Damascus' if it weren't twisted.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 5

Twisting doesn't imply a mokume process. Mokume gane indicates the fusing of non-ferrous alloys. So actually, you're wrong too :P

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Isnt the original method for damascus unknown? Therefore this is not true damascus?

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

"Damascus steel was a type of steel used for manufacturing blades in the Near East made with wootz steel imported from Southern India."

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 8

Stop posting the god damn Wikipedia page without actually reading it. The very link you're posting explains exactly what oVexlz said.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

huh?! I posted this to show he was technically right.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Damascus steel can't be made anymore. If a blacksmith is eveeer talking about damascus steel, they're talking about modern variants.

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Source; I watch a lot of man at arms

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