Dec 19, 2022 1:50 AM
BluesFish
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ACentaurElbowDeepInMe
Jesus fucking Christ
somebodythatyouusetoknow
PassionateIndifference
Among all the other horrible things the Nazis did, they ruined the swastika. Aside from being a common geometric shape, it's very.......
Important in many Asian cultures. My GF is Indian and jokes that her family has a swastika they're always hesitant to bring out.
Elnauriel
Tawandaborkbork
RadioFloyd
Not saying they’re off the hook, it’s The Times, but…if you google how to avoid swastika quilt” you’d be surprised. Just sayin’.
ShennanigansAplenty
alcamar
aeroz36
Damn straight, just needs some fire now
vurcease
BenjyX55
RichardHardley
At least 1 nazi website devoted to Jews working in media reference “it’s a coincidence”. These fucking scumbags should not be tolerated.
StanielRonathan
Considering this happened in 2017 as well, "once a coincidence, twice a pattern"
malachitedragon
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
Same editor put out a swastika shaped minicrossword on the game app in 2014 too, with the 1st answer being Jew...soooo...
Cynthmail
NonstopRampage
Rovylern
Wolf2Worrior
Three yikes, you're out!
ballsoutflyer
What is she talking ab--
Predicto
This is a huge fuckup, but it is not "incredibly difficult" to see this as an accident. This is a problem that pops up with crossword
puzzles. They should have caught this, but come on people, the New York Times is not deliberately waving swasticas on the first night of
Hannukah. The Editor in Chief of NYT is Jewish, the owners are part Jewish. This is the sort of knee-jerk assumption of an evil plot that
QAnon morons do. It was a just a fuckup - a bad fuckup that should have been caught (and no, I'm not a nazi sympathizer for saying this)
peterbozeman
Holy hell. That is unsettling.
masteryoplait
Wtf?!??
Baltzdelirium
Yikes
hybridgorilla3131
brianingram
on bikes
APrettyFdupOhLaLa
This is clearly the appropriate degree of yikes.
CaptainMustache
Lol, the one from Saturday was SS. I'll post in comment to this comment. Spoiler, the image is both nazi, and a complete crossword puzzle.
thatoneguyfrommn
More like, goddamn. This cannot be a coincidence.
Honestly i kinda agree
ProfessorMatt
Indeed.
TheMonkeysAngst
baronluke
I'll take a 67 across please
ChrisWsrn
For those who are having issues seeing the issue:
Kouklo
Thank you! I couldn't understand why everyone was mad.
n3ckr0mantic
rbudrick
My dumb ass was looking at the questions and not the puzzle box.
Nanntuckett
My dumbass was reading the clues and then I saw the puzzle structure… Apparently they didn’t notice a blatant swaztika?
DigiT00l
I can't quite see it, like, I am aware it is there, but I can't actually see it
HapilyDamaged
kevbot5000
I scrolled up three times after checking a few comments. I caught it before yours so I caught it on my own, but still, not my best work.
Tarmaccian
Clearly it’s easy to miss, if one focuses on the clues more than the layout…
NotSureIfSatireOrOpinion
I did the same thing for a few seconds. Then scrolled down tot he comments and found out this is the third time they've posted a swastika...
1972toa3000
Holy fuck! Thanks to the ones who pointed that out to me. Fuckers will never die down!
fartymarty42
ThePastmaster
No they didn't. It's banned for use in ENTERTAINMENT.
BecauseImSparklesBitch
It’s the second time they’ve done it.
Tumescentpie
I'll bet nazis and white supremacists would say "hey! You know what would be a cool thing to do a Hanukkah? Do a nazi dog whistle! "
statelessnfaithless
Then why do so many people think it looks like a swastika, while none of the people who approved the crossword noticed the same thing?
beesleep
and notice the date... this has happened before and was their response in *2017* ... you'd think they'd be more careful now.
ctriis87
Will Shortz. Seems like a lovely guy /s
mastercave
welp, no more weekend puzzler on npr
Hannah1986
Not seeing half that on - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_crossword_puzzle#Controversies
Xedi22
The longer version is on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shortz
Err, yeah we all posted that together. :)
mksu
Looking at the wrong article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shortz#Controversies
Thanks dude
Also some fun reading in the saga of the history... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Will_Shortz&action=history
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
That's because it's on Will Shortz's page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shortz#Controversies
Septcanmat
I’m sorry, I have to ask... ‘beaner’ is a slur? I’ve never ever heard that before. (I am Canadian so maybe it’s a regional thing?)
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
It’s a slur against Mexicans.
Anthraxwastaken
It is absolutly a slur in the US, directed at Latin immigrants, usually Mexicans
SunkCostEffect
In California - it's a slur for someone of Hispanic / Latinx heritage. For the western US, it's mostly Mexican - but may be used elsewhere.
RockaCorks
I was looking up why and I found a familiar face...
IntMainVoid
Also canadian. Also never had heard of it. Also have used it for being hit by a ball in soft/baseball.
xizar
Not as bad as "wetback" in general, and depending on the company not at all. I've been called worse.
arfysdad
And having played baseball for decades, I've never heard a beanball, a throw at the head, called a "beaner."
TI99Kitty
I've only heard "beanball."
AuntieCoddswaddle
In Texas it's a slur.
DemSumBigAssRidges
It's derogatory towards Hispanic people, usually Mexicans.
Asadsadsadclown
As a Californian. Yes it is.
inchoroi
From south Florida, it is absolutely a slur.
From the Midwest, it is a slur I've heard a lot growing up here.
PerrinAybara564
The coffee shop Biggby used to be called Beaners until they were forced to change their name as they became more popular
drunkbs
I think I first heard it on a Cheech and Chong movie
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
are we supposed to do the crossword?
Zahnradfee
It's a Hakenkreuzworträtsel.
Oh. Are we supposed to do the hakenkreuzworträtsel?
MauriceSpangle
if you look at the actual puzzle it looks like a swastika, top right
ilovedogknots
OH
Please help me out. I don’t want to solve the puzzle. What’s it about?
HubertFiorentini
The puzzle shape is the exact shape and orientation of the Nazi Swastika, and it was in today's paper which is the 1st night of Hanukkah.
kohrah
That's not a good swastika though.
It's definitely close enough to be a problem. It's even right-directioned and turned by 45°.
RummageSaleBubbler
Is real... I did not see that coming from NYT.
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
if they truly didn't realize (which I don't believe for a second) then that shows how ignorant and privileged they are
whyforetho
Normally I'd just think someone thought it was a neat design without thinking, but the timing and fact this isn't the first time...
TheDeathstick
"no one sits down to make a crossword puzzle and says..." So they were standing up and decided a swasi was the way to go?
alRakoun
Do you mean...you did Nazi that coming?
aaaaaandimdone
No, because that makes nein sense.
Enoan
ends up when you make rationally symmetrical patterns out of squares swastikas just happen. Still you'd think NYT would avoid it
SirenBrick
Don't they claim each one is proudly hand made and personally selected and approved by the editor?
I've played enough Minecraft to have made all sorts of designs, then I look at it again the next day and its clearly a swastika.100% mistake
Now, NYT should be careful enough to double check that sort of thing before publishing, esp cause this has happened before.
stackcollision
I was reading through all the clues like "I dont understand, what's wrong...". I didn't even look at the puzzle itself until I saw this.
PositivelyKAH
Me too, man, me too!
Hendlton
I honestly couldn't tell what was wrong with this until I saw it zoomed out. I was trying to solve it to see if the answers were offensive.
SoraHjort
... Did they use the same layout from 2017 or how did that one look for comparison sake.
2074red2074
The 2017 one is a Swastika but not a Nazi Swastika. It turns counter-clockwise and is not tilted 45 degrees.
Ah, you mean "Manji". Which does symbolizes different meanings than the hooked cross "Hakenkreuz" that people call a swastika. >
That said, it has the same editor, which others have pointed out has been doing weird shit, so it was likely meant to be the Hakenkreuz.
(Hakenkruez is the proper name of the nazi swastika, and it makes it easier to separate the symbol of hate it is from other cultures that >
He's the only one. Any puzzle after 1993 was edited by Will Shortz.
knowallknownothing
That’s not a swastika, that’s a boring looking crossword puzzle.
onlyhalfghost
honestly this one is LESS sus. That's pretty clearly just the unfortunate result of four rectangles intersecting in the middle. Today's tho
ThomasThundersword
indeed. i made a cool flying shape for my 3d printer, printed it, and realized it was just a swastika with a ring added. big yikes moment.
heartlessninja6
Some of the best boomerangs I had growing up were 3 pronged “swastikas”.
Z0op
Swastika is a cool symbol, also represents pretty positive things before the nazis took it and ruined it :(
drbloodbathmc
I can understand that. Back when Avatar first came out I drew Sokka’s boomerang. Then thought to myself “what if it more like a 1/?
TrueNorthernLights
I'm gonna confess to something here. I don't know if it's because I have ADD or what, but I am shockingly unobservant when it comes to>
textilelover
And this is not the first time it's happened with the Times, so those editors should be specifically checking at this point.
EverNotRelevant
For context, this is the THIRD time the NYT has published a swastika crossword. And, per a graphic designer on Twitter...
It's really easy to accidentally swastikas, BUT it's also easy to catch yourself before you commit.
brandonblk
as someone who plays rimworld, its so easy to accidently do this with hydroponics basins. cause its the efficent shape
I mean, you're not creating basins for the public, so why not.
also to be fair. its not the worst thing you can do in rimworld
Especially since the NYT claims each puzzle is hand made and personally selected by the editor directly.
emenelopee
Also somehow inexplicably hard.
OMG, the only thing that pisses me off more than a swastika is a badly drawn one. Like, bitch, it's the simplest symbol after the cross!
Imalwaysready
REVIEW: 1. Check clues for spelling & accuracy. 2. Check answers for spelling & accuracy. 3. Check number placement. 4. Is it a swastika?
yep. i made a home made throwing thingy, like a frisbee but dangerous. after i 3d printed it i realized it was just a swastika overlapping>
a circle. so that sucked.
Yeah, it's a maddingly common shape and it's kinda useful as well, especially when folding shit like boxes.
Gnoll
In a math class in 8th grade we were doing some geometry type drill and drawing shapes with lines and i could NOT stop drawing accidental 1/
Boksha
It's going to show up randomly among other lines in a rectangular grid. Quite different from having an entire crossword being one big one.
I wouldn't say it's different at all honestly, it's just the product of a geometric pattern, in this case filling the whole page. The 1/
problem here is the timing, but otherwise it's basically a pinwheel. Like it's a pattern that, without inherent racism, would exist as 2/
swastikas because of how the grid was set up and whanot, there was only so many ways the lines can go, arg! 2/2
thesmelge
Doing some electronics with Raspberry Pi, 6x6 LED grid. You want to make a pattern repeatable through 90 degrees. 1/
90% of what you make is a swastika. 2/2
sarzaya
Just cancelled my subscription.
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
oh god. Overreacting much?
morelikeconsham
Is it really overreacting to choose not to give money to people that make swastikas'? Is there a point where we are allowed to stop
supporting nazis, or are we morally obligated to do so indefinitely?
dwim
Found the nazi
CyborgScribe
How does not canceling a Times subscription over a mistake that vaguely resembles a swastika make one a Nazi?
This is more of that "everyone I don't like is Hitler" stuff if ever I've seen it. In the United States we have a bunch of actual fascists
growing increasingly powerful but this is what people choose to focus on rather than the actual fucking nazis.
ACentaurElbowDeepInMe
Jesus fucking Christ
somebodythatyouusetoknow
PassionateIndifference
Among all the other horrible things the Nazis did, they ruined the swastika. Aside from being a common geometric shape, it's very.......
PassionateIndifference
Important in many Asian cultures. My GF is Indian and jokes that her family has a swastika they're always hesitant to bring out.
Elnauriel
Tawandaborkbork
RadioFloyd
Not saying they’re off the hook, it’s The Times, but…if you google how to avoid swastika quilt” you’d be surprised. Just sayin’.
ShennanigansAplenty
alcamar
aeroz36
Damn straight, just needs some fire now
alcamar
vurcease
BenjyX55
RichardHardley
At least 1 nazi website devoted to Jews working in media reference “it’s a coincidence”. These fucking scumbags should not be tolerated.
StanielRonathan
Considering this happened in 2017 as well, "once a coincidence, twice a pattern"
malachitedragon
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
StanielRonathan
Same editor put out a swastika shaped minicrossword on the game app in 2014 too, with the 1st answer being Jew...soooo...
Cynthmail
NonstopRampage
Rovylern
Wolf2Worrior
Three yikes, you're out!
NonstopRampage
ballsoutflyer
What is she talking ab--
Predicto
This is a huge fuckup, but it is not "incredibly difficult" to see this as an accident. This is a problem that pops up with crossword
Predicto
puzzles. They should have caught this, but come on people, the New York Times is not deliberately waving swasticas on the first night of
Predicto
Hannukah. The Editor in Chief of NYT is Jewish, the owners are part Jewish. This is the sort of knee-jerk assumption of an evil plot that
Predicto
QAnon morons do. It was a just a fuckup - a bad fuckup that should have been caught (and no, I'm not a nazi sympathizer for saying this)
peterbozeman
Holy hell. That is unsettling.
masteryoplait
Wtf?!??
Baltzdelirium
Yikes
hybridgorilla3131
brianingram
on bikes
APrettyFdupOhLaLa
This is clearly the appropriate degree of yikes.
CaptainMustache
Lol, the one from Saturday was SS. I'll post in comment to this comment. Spoiler, the image is both nazi, and a complete crossword puzzle.
CaptainMustache
thatoneguyfrommn
More like, goddamn. This cannot be a coincidence.
Baltzdelirium
Honestly i kinda agree
ProfessorMatt
Indeed.
TheMonkeysAngst
baronluke
I'll take a 67 across please
ChrisWsrn
For those who are having issues seeing the issue:
Kouklo
Thank you! I couldn't understand why everyone was mad.
Rovylern
n3ckr0mantic
rbudrick
My dumb ass was looking at the questions and not the puzzle box.
Nanntuckett
My dumbass was reading the clues and then I saw the puzzle structure… Apparently they didn’t notice a blatant swaztika?
DigiT00l
I can't quite see it, like, I am aware it is there, but I can't actually see it
HapilyDamaged
kevbot5000
I scrolled up three times after checking a few comments. I caught it before yours so I caught it on my own, but still, not my best work.
Tarmaccian
Clearly it’s easy to miss, if one focuses on the clues more than the layout…
NotSureIfSatireOrOpinion
I did the same thing for a few seconds. Then scrolled down tot he comments and found out this is the third time they've posted a swastika...
1972toa3000
Holy fuck! Thanks to the ones who pointed that out to me. Fuckers will never die down!
fartymarty42
ThePastmaster
No they didn't. It's banned for use in ENTERTAINMENT.
BecauseImSparklesBitch
It’s the second time they’ve done it.
Tumescentpie
I'll bet nazis and white supremacists would say "hey! You know what would be a cool thing to do a Hanukkah? Do a nazi dog whistle! "
statelessnfaithless
Then why do so many people think it looks like a swastika, while none of the people who approved the crossword noticed the same thing?
beesleep
and notice the date... this has happened before and was their response in *2017* ... you'd think they'd be more careful now.
ctriis87
Will Shortz. Seems like a lovely guy /s
mastercave
welp, no more weekend puzzler on npr
Hannah1986
Not seeing half that on - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_crossword_puzzle#Controversies
Xedi22
The longer version is on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shortz
Xedi22
Err, yeah we all posted that together. :)
mksu
Looking at the wrong article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shortz#Controversies
Hannah1986
Thanks dude
Xedi22
Also some fun reading in the saga of the history... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Will_Shortz&action=history
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
That's because it's on Will Shortz's page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shortz#Controversies
Septcanmat
I’m sorry, I have to ask... ‘beaner’ is a slur? I’ve never ever heard that before. (I am Canadian so maybe it’s a regional thing?)
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
It’s a slur against Mexicans.
Anthraxwastaken
It is absolutly a slur in the US, directed at Latin immigrants, usually Mexicans
SunkCostEffect
In California - it's a slur for someone of Hispanic / Latinx heritage. For the western US, it's mostly Mexican - but may be used elsewhere.
RockaCorks
I was looking up why and I found a familiar face...
IntMainVoid
Also canadian. Also never had heard of it. Also have used it for being hit by a ball in soft/baseball.
xizar
Not as bad as "wetback" in general, and depending on the company not at all. I've been called worse.
arfysdad
And having played baseball for decades, I've never heard a beanball, a throw at the head, called a "beaner."
TI99Kitty
I've only heard "beanball."
AuntieCoddswaddle
In Texas it's a slur.
DemSumBigAssRidges
It's derogatory towards Hispanic people, usually Mexicans.
Asadsadsadclown
As a Californian. Yes it is.
inchoroi
From south Florida, it is absolutely a slur.
Tumescentpie
From the Midwest, it is a slur I've heard a lot growing up here.
PerrinAybara564
The coffee shop Biggby used to be called Beaners until they were forced to change their name as they became more popular
drunkbs
I think I first heard it on a Cheech and Chong movie
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
are we supposed to do the crossword?
Zahnradfee
It's a Hakenkreuzworträtsel.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Oh. Are we supposed to do the hakenkreuzworträtsel?
MauriceSpangle
if you look at the actual puzzle it looks like a swastika, top right
ilovedogknots
OH
1972toa3000
Please help me out. I don’t want to solve the puzzle. What’s it about?
HubertFiorentini
The puzzle shape is the exact shape and orientation of the Nazi Swastika, and it was in today's paper which is the 1st night of Hanukkah.
MauriceSpangle
if you look at the actual puzzle it looks like a swastika, top right
HubertFiorentini
kohrah
That's not a good swastika though.
Zahnradfee
It's definitely close enough to be a problem. It's even right-directioned and turned by 45°.
RummageSaleBubbler
Is real... I did not see that coming from NYT.
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
if they truly didn't realize (which I don't believe for a second) then that shows how ignorant and privileged they are
whyforetho
Normally I'd just think someone thought it was a neat design without thinking, but the timing and fact this isn't the first time...
TheDeathstick
"no one sits down to make a crossword puzzle and says..." So they were standing up and decided a swasi was the way to go?
alRakoun
Do you mean...you did Nazi that coming?
aaaaaandimdone
No, because that makes nein sense.
Enoan
ends up when you make rationally symmetrical patterns out of squares swastikas just happen. Still you'd think NYT would avoid it
SirenBrick
Don't they claim each one is proudly hand made and personally selected and approved by the editor?
Enoan
I've played enough Minecraft to have made all sorts of designs, then I look at it again the next day and its clearly a swastika.100% mistake
Enoan
Now, NYT should be careful enough to double check that sort of thing before publishing, esp cause this has happened before.
stackcollision
I was reading through all the clues like "I dont understand, what's wrong...". I didn't even look at the puzzle itself until I saw this.
PositivelyKAH
Me too, man, me too!
Hendlton
I honestly couldn't tell what was wrong with this until I saw it zoomed out. I was trying to solve it to see if the answers were offensive.
SoraHjort
... Did they use the same layout from 2017 or how did that one look for comparison sake.
2074red2074
The 2017 one is a Swastika but not a Nazi Swastika. It turns counter-clockwise and is not tilted 45 degrees.
SoraHjort
Ah, you mean "Manji". Which does symbolizes different meanings than the hooked cross "Hakenkreuz" that people call a swastika. >
SoraHjort
That said, it has the same editor, which others have pointed out has been doing weird shit, so it was likely meant to be the Hakenkreuz.
SoraHjort
(Hakenkruez is the proper name of the nazi swastika, and it makes it easier to separate the symbol of hate it is from other cultures that >
2074red2074
He's the only one. Any puzzle after 1993 was edited by Will Shortz.
2074red2074
knowallknownothing
That’s not a swastika, that’s a boring looking crossword puzzle.
onlyhalfghost
honestly this one is LESS sus. That's pretty clearly just the unfortunate result of four rectangles intersecting in the middle. Today's tho
ThomasThundersword
indeed. i made a cool flying shape for my 3d printer, printed it, and realized it was just a swastika with a ring added. big yikes moment.
heartlessninja6
Some of the best boomerangs I had growing up were 3 pronged “swastikas”.
Z0op
Swastika is a cool symbol, also represents pretty positive things before the nazis took it and ruined it :(
drbloodbathmc
I can understand that. Back when Avatar first came out I drew Sokka’s boomerang. Then thought to myself “what if it more like a 1/?
TrueNorthernLights
I'm gonna confess to something here. I don't know if it's because I have ADD or what, but I am shockingly unobservant when it comes to>
TrueNorthernLights
TrueNorthernLights
TrueNorthernLights
textilelover
And this is not the first time it's happened with the Times, so those editors should be specifically checking at this point.
EverNotRelevant
For context, this is the THIRD time the NYT has published a swastika crossword. And, per a graphic designer on Twitter...
EverNotRelevant
It's really easy to accidentally swastikas, BUT it's also easy to catch yourself before you commit.
brandonblk
as someone who plays rimworld, its so easy to accidently do this with hydroponics basins. cause its the efficent shape
EverNotRelevant
I mean, you're not creating basins for the public, so why not.
brandonblk
also to be fair. its not the worst thing you can do in rimworld
SirenBrick
Especially since the NYT claims each puzzle is hand made and personally selected by the editor directly.
emenelopee
Also somehow inexplicably hard.
ThePastmaster
OMG, the only thing that pisses me off more than a swastika is a badly drawn one. Like, bitch, it's the simplest symbol after the cross!
Imalwaysready
REVIEW: 1. Check clues for spelling & accuracy. 2. Check answers for spelling & accuracy. 3. Check number placement. 4. Is it a swastika?
ThomasThundersword
yep. i made a home made throwing thingy, like a frisbee but dangerous. after i 3d printed it i realized it was just a swastika overlapping>
ThomasThundersword
a circle. so that sucked.
ThePastmaster
Yeah, it's a maddingly common shape and it's kinda useful as well, especially when folding shit like boxes.
Gnoll
In a math class in 8th grade we were doing some geometry type drill and drawing shapes with lines and i could NOT stop drawing accidental 1/
Boksha
It's going to show up randomly among other lines in a rectangular grid. Quite different from having an entire crossword being one big one.
Gnoll
I wouldn't say it's different at all honestly, it's just the product of a geometric pattern, in this case filling the whole page. The 1/
Gnoll
problem here is the timing, but otherwise it's basically a pinwheel. Like it's a pattern that, without inherent racism, would exist as 2/
Gnoll
swastikas because of how the grid was set up and whanot, there was only so many ways the lines can go, arg! 2/2
thesmelge
Doing some electronics with Raspberry Pi, 6x6 LED grid. You want to make a pattern repeatable through 90 degrees. 1/
thesmelge
90% of what you make is a swastika. 2/2
sarzaya
Just cancelled my subscription.
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
oh god. Overreacting much?
morelikeconsham
Is it really overreacting to choose not to give money to people that make swastikas'? Is there a point where we are allowed to stop
morelikeconsham
supporting nazis, or are we morally obligated to do so indefinitely?
dwim
Found the nazi
CyborgScribe
How does not canceling a Times subscription over a mistake that vaguely resembles a swastika make one a Nazi?
CyborgScribe
This is more of that "everyone I don't like is Hitler" stuff if ever I've seen it. In the United States we have a bunch of actual fascists
CyborgScribe
growing increasingly powerful but this is what people choose to focus on rather than the actual fucking nazis.