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GratuitousMastication
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hattchett
There you go, just continue to take away our freedoms, and rights. What a great government we have, NOT
akedinheitin
good times not living in america
sergeantapone
VPN providers everywhere are celebrating
imnotarealgiraffe
What about mobile data?
jayalbert1
Ashit Pie, the corrupt lawyer lobbyist for Comcast, et Al.
xXGemDragonXx
*suspicious*
sprbwlshuffler
2008: SHOW US YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE! 2016: SHOW US YOUR EMAILS! 2016: SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS! 2024: SHOW US YOUR BROWSER HISTORY! ...uhh
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Birth certificate and emails were BULSHIT. Tax returns are not. Also, republicans are shit bags.
SmellOfMonkey
We should invent our own internet, with blackjack and hookers
areyouponderingwhatimpondering
Brb, installing Tor.
RipRoarin
since AL GORE created the internetwebs machine
Laylah77
It will be their mistake to make
completelyunreIated
Does this mean it's only browsing history and how much app data you've used?
Molotovbliss
Technically your ISP doesn't read your browsers history but logs they keep on their end of your past requests. Best option, use a VPN.
QuietCorgi
With internet being the only thing I do most days I dont think the govt *really* wants to give us extra free time to think on our own.
QuietCorgi
I mean I dont picket and protest now cause I can stream drug inc at home all day take that away and I might actually do somthing.
beaubrent
Moved to EU from USA 6 years ago, now have Global Data Protection Regulation -- I feel much safer here these days.
kidafrika2020
While everyone is paying attention to Trump....
cavamap
Next up charging tolls for fast customer access to your small biz website!
SomeGrayFox
Question, as a private citizen, can I buy the browsing history of the house and senate and post it for viewing on my small biz website?
PingpongMuffinhead
Nope. They are exempt.
damspam
source?
AberdeenWashington
As always
AgamemnonsMemes
Thanks america.
Sejanus1964
GOP is out of control and drunk with power.
nicklefarts
aleister94
they need to be put in the drunk tank of justice
RandomActOfConfusion
Read that as the dunk tank of justice.
eightbitrevolt
How is this any different than any other time since the turn of the century?
TGWeaver
American Republicans and Conservatives finally got what they always wanted: control of all three branches. Is it everything they dreamed of?
ButterfaceTaintClown
Yes.
veyrall
They can finally drink the kool-aid so much they drown in it. Whether facism or oligarchy, they'll have their ragged, hungry paradise
koopaya
Please everyone, vote super hard next time. Like so hard that all your friends vote, too.
Tunisia
Remember to get 3 of your friends to vote the same as you - then together you have the same voice as a single person from Buttfuck, Wyoming.
eromitlab
What the f'n fuck?
AVeryTinyGyrados
Can a VPN bypass this? I'm asking for a friend.
Molotovbliss
What does my ISP see when I'm using my VPN? https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/2rwajo/what_does_my_isp_see_when_im_using_my_vpn/
Molotovbliss
It's pretty much the best option we have as consumers, albeit not completely impossible to bypass, but best option. Signed up for pva today.
Molotovbliss
http://mbliss.com/amhjpf proof private internet access doesn't log, meant PIA not pva in my above comment.
Molotovbliss
Also if you're really paranoid, there's TAILS Linux, but nothing is 100% https://tails.boum.org/doc/about/warning/index.en.html
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Voting republicans out of office can bypass this.
shinagami091
Too late for that. Next vote doesnt happen until 2018. This will likely get rammed down our throat by then
UtherCLX
Update for awareness. In the U.K. they call this the IP act and it's already law despite being told by our own courts it violates 1/2
Shlits
How long has this act been in place for?
UtherCLX
December 30th 2016.
Shlits
Damn, thanks. Time to get a VPN I guess.
digstermuhooboot
Opera browser has built in free one. Also mobile apps.
UtherCLX
Just as a final comment in case anyone reads this far down. The BBFC are trying to censor all content before it's permitted to be uploaded.
UtherCLX
Human rights and other privacy laws here. The EU high courts have also deemed it illegal.
teratrain
aaand to top it all off, the genius behind pushing this awful piece of legislation is now prime minister.
AncientSeraph
Good thing the last won't be a problem anymore soon! /s
dazedNconfuzed
Unintended consequences: fantastic motivation for serious encryption.
Molotovbliss
Viva la TAILS + VPN + SSL + PGP + encrypted boot loader.
veyrall
I give two years before they outlaw encryption for "national security".
Nordiii
The browser history will still be a thing even with better encryption
cat7e
Then they will inject themselves to the devices where the stuf has to be in user-readable format anyway.
mynameisfatmike
They can try.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
How about a better solution: VOTE REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE.
HeyFleyJeyNey
Jagadid
We can't since we don't live in their hick country strongholds.
HitlersArtCritic
Call them up, threaten to vote for someone else and express concerns. Physically call them, maybe even mail them a letter.
UhhhhhNick
Wasnt a democrat in office when people were up in arms about NSA spying? do people forget that easily? They all spy on us, its not a
CitizenDickbag
The NSA spying controversy started under Bush.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Like forgetting Bush start the whole patriot act thing and republicans never said a word?
UhhhhhNick
either or thing. Were screwed either way
ButterfaceTaintClown
The difference is spying on you wasn't signed into law. It had to stop.
TGWeaver
Fuck off with that false equivalency bullshit. That's what got us into this damn mess. Not a single non-Republican senator voted for this.
Regularsizerudy
Theirs always been surveillance but at least our personal info wasn't for sale to the highest bidder
shadowbrokerknowsall
Welp, I'm going to have to do all my inteneting on the dark web going forward
ImProbablyJoking
Tor won't stop your ISP from seeing and collecting records of everything you do online.
Primotimewaster
How do I find the dark web?
DankS0uls
Ask nicely
AncientSeraph
He just did...
Bukulu
Read up about TOR browsers
Primotimewaster
Thank you
HiImMrMeeseeks
Turn off your lights.
angrytaco
Huge blow to everyone, red or blue. Thanks for this tho trump supporters. Pai is going to remove all control of web from citizens
AlltheAnswers
Theory: Have you ever thought that the R majority in Congress happened because people wanted balance for Hillary, not support for Trump?
CitizenDickbag
They already had the majority...
Monochromatism
I'm just hoping people will realize that they can exercise direct force on these companies by not buying from them.
IMayOrMayNotWriteSometimes
That's not really an option with a lot of people. ISPs kind of have a monopoly on the areas they serve.
RepostFromLastWeek
I'm under the impression that ISP's have divide the land so that depending on where you live there is no competition and only one choice.
ps238principal
How will you know which ones your ISP sold to? I doubt letting you have that info is part of the deal.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Most place only have one choice in ISP. Now, the government actually subsidized companies who built out their networks in less /1
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
profitable rural areas, but isn't that "socialism" according to republicans? Why do republicans divert when their politicians do shady /2
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
shit by saying "you should be using VPN anyway," or "consumers should put pressure on companies." Fuck that, fuck republicans. /3
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Let's talk about practical monopolies by these ISPs then; are republicans going to split the comm companies? I doubt it.
chudtime
Thanks trump voters. You stupid stupid stupid gullible idiots.
reallyolddispatcher
You're welcome, Hillary voter...
BirdDoctor
Great argument. Thanks for fucking everyone over
Molotovbliss
TGWeaver
This is really what you wanted, huh?
itseasierbeingaslut
Well, if the NSA and CIA is doing it, why can't they? If people are okay with the federal agencies doing it they should be okay with this.
rossimus
None of it is okay you fucking imp
itseasierbeingaslut
I never said it was, can you not read?
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Some horribleness is bad, even more is worse. That shouldn't be a difficult concept.
itseasierbeingaslut
I wouldn't call mass surveillance "horrible". I think its a Lot worse than that.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Republicans are so vile. You are vile. Will you PLEASE hold your politicians accountable?? FOR ANYTHING?
itseasierbeingaslut
What the fuck are you talking about.
AncientSeraph
Lolwut? How does your mind equate this to logic? "Gvmt can illegally, so private should be able to legally 'as well'".
itseasierbeingaslut
READ, can you not read?
AncientSeraph
You know the CIA and NSA aren't legally allowed to sell anything, right? This gives private entities more rights than them.
itseasierbeingaslut
IDIOT. You know they are not allowed to collect the data legally anyway, right?
AncientSeraph
Yes, so why should we allow private organizations to do it?
Mxlespxles
I'm not okay with them doing it either, but what power do I have to stop it?
LordNoodles
Making everything more confusing
itseasierbeingaslut
Voting. Just you have no one to vote for.
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itseasierbeingaslut
Being realistic, that is not gonna do shit. The whip will simply tell them no.
RipRoarin
well then fuck it all. dontg know what to tell you
mynameisfatmike
This is one of the few arenas where we have so little say it's disgusting. The FCC chair is appointed by the president and he sucks
GratuitousMastication
Just make sure you're browsing history is so disgusting that no one will want the data
Camelspotting
Because the NSA isn't going to release my info to whoever asks.
itseasierbeingaslut
Yeah, they just give it to partners, use it them selves or have it be able to be leaked.
BedsideTiger
Terrible as this may be, still needs a vote in the House
RHFiesling
https://www.savebroadbandprivacy.org/
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Yeah, republicans control that too. Don't get your hopes up.
BedsideTiger
Don't jump to conclusions
TGWeaver
Every single yes vote was Republican. Every single no vote was non-Republican. It's hard not to see this as indicative.
BedsideTiger
Again, Senate. You have no knowledge on how the House will vote.
TGWeaver
And again, this is a pattern, not a rule, so it's indicative, though not DEFINITE -- but you'll excuse me for not holding my breath.
TGWeaver
So here we are a week later. It played out exactly the same: Passed. Without a single Democrat in favor. How surprising. Who'd have guessed.
reliablellc
Like it isnt already happening
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
This is the standard republicans deflection; republicans WILL NEVER hold their politicians accountable. This comment is gaslighting, /1
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
diversionary and bullshit. Republicans are such natural born liars.
AlltheAnswers
*politicians. I hate both sides, so don't attack me for defending anyone. But let's not pretend that any of them are doing public service.
TGWeaver
Don't you fucking downplay this massive betrayal of politicians to their constituents like it's no big deal and business as usual.
AlltheAnswers
*whispers* um... it IS business as usual. Yes, betrayal, yes, big deal, but totally business as usual. Anything to stay in power.
SherMattLockSmith
There is collection happening with individual sites, like google or facebook, but this is on an unprecedented level of access. Every 1/2
SherMattLockSmith
2/2 singly byte of data you send is available to your ISP. That means private connections to others, banking info, VOIP, etc.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Well, that's a theory. A fact is republicans are trying to make it legal and easy.
majoraz
This was in response to the FCC telling ISP's that they weren't allowed too. This also bans the FCC from ever ruling on it again
GratuitousMastication
The collection yes but now they'll be able to sell the data to companies
notme222
Are you stating that they couldn't before?
s0cietya5under
Not without explicit consent from the user.
notme222
Then you're lying. The former law never took effect. Anyone who cares about the truth can easily verify you just lied to everyone.
PreciousPotato
Source?
GratuitousMastication
Who's lying? What former law, the one in the post?
koopaya
Yes, yes, conspiracy consmiracy, and only you hold the truth. What a sage and oracle for the times.
damnyuoautocorrect
Dude, calm down.
Elonth
then i want free internet. free good internet.
DemonicCarnage
Ha