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Art imitates life
Feb 3, 2017 2:28 PM
CollectorOfRandomPics
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TheCalvinShow
If he's holding his cell phone, how did he take the picture?
WiffleHammer
I have ever confidence that the people on Imgur can identify this plant and the year (possibly the month) this photo was taken.
IbAng4Change
I didn't even know what a pander plant was..
PinPointSnarkuracy
SIMPSON, eh?
GiantHeadlnTheSky
Applefaces
Don't forget you're here forever
SpamYarBlockers
I like how to work here you must wear the same clothes as employees did when it opened
gloverx
Uhm, is that an iphone-phone or android-phone? I upvote/downvote accordingly.
Goldd33
but who took the picture?!?!?1?1/?!
GxtmX
I bet that phone has more processing power than any computer there
flyingskejaquita
I think it may have to do with the physical connection those buttons have to system controls. Its kinda like not trusting drive-by-wire
OSCgal
Less rugged, though.
analsheep
Indeed, most of the shit in plants is made to be as simple as a lightswitch because a lightswitch doesn't tend to break a lot
bearface13
Can confirm. I work at one. I always tell people the main control room looks like what they thought the future would look like in the 70s.
shithappensyadie
Thats some hard work.
ArgentXero
How was this photo taken? :O
topdollar38
with photoshop http://www.mapps.l-3com.com/photo_gallery/pg_embalse_control_room.jpg
LookImNotYourFather
D'oh!
mkyfky
A deer, a female deer.
Justabuckeye
Ray
RichardButtsonthe3rd
Looks like the control room of a CANDU to me.
pennywise
CANDU version 6, Embalse, Cordoba Province, Argentine.
MosEisleyPhotography
You work in sector 7G?
JustAnotherReallyLongNameButImCalledTom
Before this post I didn't even know what a nuclear planner plan was
kiathedead
But how did they take the picture?
michealmmsm
Any day any time any nuclear power plan
Phischstaebchen
I feel less worried if nuclear stuff isn't controlled nor connected to a computer and internet...
FromTheTwistedMindOfABrotha
Please tell me the dude behind that picture has an annoyed/pissed-off look.
mackenziesticks
Is this in San Luis Obispo's Power Plant?
pennywise
No. Cordoba, Argentine.
DeusExMagikarp
I used to work for a coal fire plant and it was about the same. Contol room was straight out of the 70s
gondring
I worked on coal plant that was shut down suddenly. Everything dropped as it was. 70s manuals and notebooks open on desks, (1/2)
gondring
gloves on railings (railing was bright and clean under glove), etc. I hoped for a vintage calculator, but no luck. (2/2)
samterday
Heh heh... Grimey
shauntaco
/a/M10up
ilikefatfannys
Here lies Grimey
Zicora
"Franklin A. Grimes, Sr., or "Grimey" as he liked to be known"
lambda18
Good ol' Grimey.
Toshthepuppy
I live in an apartment above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley.
RegeleDecebal
CANDU?
pennywise
Yes... sala de control principal. Ese cielo raso... y esas pantallas de tubo... ya serial hora que los cambien tambien!
iamthisguy247
"Can do!" - Mr. Meeseeks
LinkinPiper
Now do the intro!
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HylianFox
wait, Marge was driving on the wrong side... SPRINGFIELD IS IN ENGLAND!?!?!?
fdinthea
Awesome
cajungeek
Why you little... http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1324613/bart-getting-choked-o.gif
lintwizard
When I was a kid I used to find that funny. These days, I take it too seriously. Who put the stick up my butt? :\
IgnoreShiksasGetShekels
This is how Chernobyl happened! Pay attention to your job!
pennywise
Don´t worry, the reactor is under an extention of life, meaning that it´s turn off and mostly disambled. CANDU, Argentine.
ProfChaos23
Not true. Chernobyl would have been avoided if they just left it alone. They overrided automatic safety features and caused the meltdown.
ashipthatshipsshippingships
I could never work at a power plant because I love buttons. I'd press all the shiny ones and red ones. And buttons that go beep boop beep.
Rejukem
Then quietly leave the scene of the crime.
10tacles
Deedee! Get out of my laboratory!
MisterIncognitus
The only time I pronounce the o in laboratory.
MarkusJunnikkala
And the city goes boom boom boom
BarryDeKokiner
Eh, more like the plant gets tripped offline and you get fired, fined, or both.
MarkusJunnikkala
And the job goes fired, fired, fined.
TheAwfulNene
What if a sign lights up saying not to push the button again?
ashipthatshipsshippingships
I'd obviously push it because it's a button.
TheAwfulNene
It lights up black on a black background labelled in black, to let you know you pushed it.
governmentgavemeagun
Are you spending a year dead for tax reasons, or something?
TheAwfulNene
Yes. (sounds of undead)
WankerBott
I've seen the inside of a few large power plants....they still have those control banks...
Origamigilan
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
C0mtraya
Don't forget: You're here forever.
nopo
Hey, it works.
GeorgeGrimaldo
Yes we do
sbotticelli9000
This looks like a power plant in PA
VernonLamb
I was afraid you'd say that.
BlackWolfLeon
Analog can't be hacked.
hetriedtokillmewithaforklift
They ought to pour soda all over them, so they can get some new shipped from Oakridge.
kingloofa455
Where else would they keep all their control money? hahahaha. I'm sad on the inside. hahaha. Get it guys? Control money?
Corona688
No?
BonkyMcSignFace
OH YEAH?? I'VE SEEN THE INSIDE OF YOUR MOTHER. NO IDEA WHAT I WAS DOING OR WHAT THE BUTTONS DID, BUT I WAS THERE. THE BEST
muhvitus
I would be much more afraid of one with windows xp control machines ????
digitalutopia
There's nothing wrong with using Linux in this case. Not like they'll need Photoshop or the ability to play games.
HukHukCaribou
same thing with water plants and other utilities just to much work so most of them have been the same since they were put in during the 70's
WankerBott
newer water plants are usually modernized a lot more than power plants, I've seen power plants built in the past 10 years that look like 50s
Barkinsons
The colour screams 70s
pyronyzen
if it ain't broke
CodyLilley
Those electronics will pretty much last forever
AwkwardKeming
There's a great book called Kludge on stuff like this: systems that don't have the freedom of downtime. Interesting parallels between (1/2)
AwkwardKeming
(2/2) the designs of nuclear reactors and the human brain, both built on what was already there.
Lefthandturnsignal
Mostly because politicians and eviromentalists hear 'nuclear' freak out and cut funding for upgrades
Penguinsandbroadswords
Exactly. New designs for nuclear are not being enacted even though it would be a cleaner safer step during transition to renewables
Spaminal
And would give us something to do with all the waste these older Nuclear plants produce
fen4
Hardware solutions, always. Software crashes.
TR8Rismyhero
Will no1 mention the fact this man has 2 phones?
PinPointSnarkuracy
Co worker's phone? Maybe? Perchance?
Ace4815162342
That man has 2 phones!
Aha355
One for normal work stuff and that when it rings... Well, he just hopes it doesn't ring.
Snooj
I work in the telecom industry. We have plenty of gear from the 60's still chugging away. In some of our central offices we have 1-
Snooj
replaced entire floors of equipment with a rack. But it's sooooo haaaard to migrate legacy services. 2-2
Slagurth
Snooj to the nooch.
guitarjc55
Yep I work in a CO. Our gear isn't as old as yours but our DMS 100 is still old. The company has a 5 year plan to phase them out but 1/2
guitarjc55
2/2 that was 4 years ago and nothing has been decommissioned lol.
Snooj
Do you also have the forgotten floor of FLM 150's? A hundred racks with perhaps 20 DS1s still working.
guitarjc55
We got rid of our FLM 150's, and yes we still have workers on our DS1 equipment... quite a bit actually lol.
wellofmimir
....please tell me this isn't true. It's always so weird to me how critical infrastructure is always decades behind.
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xxJohnxx77
Space shuttle got to the moon?
NotAPervert
I was half asleep and retarded, my bad. NASA got to the moon using Saturn V or whatever a bunch o times. Command and lunar module = less pow
Hermando
Those types of machines are designed to operate for a long time without errors.
WankerBott
critical infrastructure doesn't need to be flashy, and in the US, prob world, it doesn't need to be digital as long as it works...
NotAPervert
The Apollo 11 mission that got us to the moon had less power computational power than a modern washing machine. Simple works, very reliably.
StickerOnTomatoe
Real switches can't be hacked
WankerBott
true, it's very hard to flip a physical switch remotely, but I've seen some nightmare stories about hacking the person with the switch...
groundhogsday
In what important sense is this "behind"? You want to "therapeutically reboot" your power station every few hours?
topdollar38
The CRT monitors for one
BarryDeKokiner
There are some updates, but if it wasn't built recently it will be whatever was state of the art at the time. Depends on the company too.
DaedaIus
Nuclear weapons also stay on 80s tech.
LiterallyWorseThanHitler
Engineering rule #1: If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Ulthirm
It's worked for the past 20 years, training has been refined and effective. Why fix something that isn't broke also the government still use
Ulthirm
Uses floppy disks so... Oh yes American government dunno about the rest of you
lionel1024
It's also probably much easier to maintain and repair individual controls.
Drenlin
If it still works as intended, why not? They're routinely inspected so it isn't like they're in disrepair or anything.
Thebebop
He wants an ipad instead.
HappyTheKangaroo
The design and test process is radically different for stuff that can cause loss of life. They analyze each line of code vs functional tests
HappyTheKangaroo
Black box vs white box testing for example
HappyTheKangaroo
That's why you can't have your phone on during take off and landing. The planes systems haven't been tested with your phone emitting stuff
xxJohnxx77
Nah, do you really think that if it could possibly cause issues with the plane that they would rely on the goodwill of passengers 1/
xxJohnxx77
to turn their phones off? Instead it is mostly a meassure for people not being on their phone and not concentrating 2/
garcia367
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
30CratesOfTictacs
If it is broke, run for your lives
digitalutopia
That's kinda misleading though - there comes a point when old tech becomes effectively broken, compared to the efficiency and performance /1
digitalutopia
of new tech. /2
Dark0Strike
Yes and no. For example, industrial breakers. New ones are basically un-repairable (all plastic) and old ones are quite easy to fix. (1/2)
Dark0Strike
Plus you can retrofit out obsolete parts (eg. controls). All the copper inside conducts the same so having a good mechanism is better.
digitalutopia
I was more referring to modern manufacturing tolerances, and the much greater accuracy and efficiency, and power of today's control /1
groundhogsday
You don't redesign a power plant on a whim.
Coolmikefromcanada
You certainly don't redesign one that's running
excepttheoneswhoaredead
But this one has more RAM!
SafeSpaceDestroyer
You could just easily download more RAM
kaygotpuns
Fuck RAM you can download as much as you need online
ScoobidyBop
But how much dedidated wam do you need for a sewrver?
ScoobidyBop
But how much dedidated wam do you need for a sewrver?
somenub755
downloadmorewam.com
somenub755
downloadmorewam.com
StickerOnTomatoe
Real switches can't be hacked remotely.
Imaxilian
That.
Horstdorsch
So true. Nuclear power plant tour all computer controlled (temps and other readings) But core and cooling control all mechanical switches.
BecozImBatman
What is there to hack... Just cut the wire disguise as maintainace
StickerOnTomatoe
Maintenance most likely requires a lot of documentation from all who is involved including parts and tools.
revcleo
just use a drone with a stick
jo3v
Deploy the tactical broom!
epicBaklava
DidItForScience
Interestingly it's squirrels, not hackers that are fucking shit up the most. https://youtu.be/cZPv-wro-O8
Corona688
explain? Or at least link the bit that explains and not the 37 minute intro?
DidItForScience
It's a 20 minute lecture. Not a 37 minute intro. Did you somehow go to the wrong video? I just checked the link, it's working right.
scuba7jb
And the US ICBM computers are so old that they can't be hacked by malware because no one knows the programming language anymore...
JohnnyTitelips
I mean, I'm sure someone does. But they're probably old and cantankerous.
digitalutopia
Well, also - not being connected to the freaking internet helps too - I'd imagine.
Spaminal
All you need is access to hardware and you can figure it out eventually. It's slow, but can be done.
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Spaminal
Its prolly ALGOL or some shit
zerothoughtgiven
355 billion over 10 years (since 2014) was how much they estimated the updates and refurbishment of that project.
zerothoughtgiven
Up until the sometime in the 90s they still utilized 8" floppy disks and then 5.25 to 3.5. Eventually CD but still have some on floppy disk.
zerothoughtgiven
GAO says they spend $60billon a year operating and maintaining the out of date tech.