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OGsatan
That's a bad analogy not gonna lie, bad pilots would be killing themselves bad cops can get away it and their life
weeshful
the ACTUAL phrase is "one bad apple spoils the bunch" not "it's only a few bad apples"
mwelsh1
'bad apple' cops aren't cops that are bad at their job, they're just bad people. You also have bad people who are pilots, just noone notices
Sonicdahedgie
He also literally suggested that black kids be segregated from white kids, which is about the point that I stopped watching.
darkpoter
Agreed, I got sick of it pretty early on. *SHRUG* I guess I don't relate, plenty on Netflix to watch!
confanity
It's almost as if a person can have more than one idea and not all of them are necessarily correct.
Onocai
To simply comment on Chris Rocks new standup, not that my opinion matters, but it was extremely repetitive. The first half sounded like(1/2)
Onocai
It could have been performed by any African American comedian. If you watch the second half only and call it a 30 min special it'd be ok.
SonOfVon
remember when chris rock used to be funny and not a hypocrite at all? good times
Brothersandsisters
He's starting to look like the panhandler that has to tell you a story
WardSharlow
Well, he's a stand up comedian. Six on the one hand . . .
SwordSaint892
He addresses a particularly difficult recent divorce in the special, probably a significant part of the reason he looks a lot more ragged.
tattoogigolo
Don’t know why, but lately Chris Rock looks like a guy who recently shaved off a mustache he’s had for years.
tattoogigolo
Ok, I’m a moron. I just checked. He used to have a goatee. What a whirlwind of misremembering shit.
darkpoter
I did not enjoy this show. After the 1st 10 minutes being down right racists, I got bored and moved on to another comedy show.
Texshi
Didn't this dude go SJW BLM bullshit couple weeks back about white mothers should start crying over dead white kids?
Jiggowatts
Same reason getting a mechanical engineering degree is a pain. Imagine if the construction grade of your plane passed with a C+. 75-79% safe
Pyretic87
Here's a bad pilot. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705
HowAboutABigScrewYou
He also said he’d like to see white mothers crying over their babies on tv just as black mothers. But let’s act like that’s wasn’t racist
IshitOnWindshields
It was. But that was the point
HowAboutABigScrewYou
Really hoping you disagree on what he said on that special
MikenSan
Germanwings Flight 9525
BaRockmanObama
Mission Report, December 16 1991
JayKaySC
Hah
WardSharlow
If that pilot had been a cop who crashed his car into a crowd of babies, they would have figured out a way to hold a hero's funeral for him.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
babies are assholes
SometimesLies
Those babies were CLEARLY reaching for their guns/surface-to-air missile batteries.
ShepskyHuskherd
Oceanic flight 815
Tunaccat
I don't know what you're trying to imply?
LobsterBandito
“WE HAVE TO GO BACK KATE!”
SanjiO
People are people no matter the profession. I'd hold judges to a higher standard than cops but even then we get shit judges too.
SanjiO
I used to think the presidency was a position of high esteem too, but all politics seem to be a clown show nowadays.
subkon
I feel like a better analogy would have been doctors. Not as many fail-safes as pilots and also face more emergency life and death situation
waitwasthatreal
And even then, doctors have more time for decisions, and their lives aren’t on the line.
SheWolf04
*Raises hand* Psychiatry here, mine sure as hell has been.
Alavar
Their lives aren't on the line no. But somebody else's can be. (Especially in ER's.)
waitwasthatreal
Certainly, and they don’t want that either, but the police’s job would have a lot less stress if they knew the possible armed suspect>>
waitwasthatreal
Would only hurt themselves if the police were wrong in that split second.
AgolfHiller
A pilot also doesn't have a larger then 1% possibility that someone point a gun at him which must really help their psych
adamt2
but pilots get paid more, which attracts higher caliber people.
RainbowKing
Is it just me or does he look kind of odd now?
dontslamthefuckingdoor
Could you mean "old?" If so, it's cuz he is.
mishalala
Yeah that
TakotsuboOkazaki
You can tell this post involves politics because the comments all have numerous up and down votes...
wrekemrobbie
yes, some votes go up and some go down
TheComradeStalin
Except your comment, because you’re just commenting on the commenting situation.
DukeDarkwood
You know, I've never been able to see the stats for individual comments, just the post. What's the trick?
TakotsuboOkazaki
They are listed on mobile! Next to their respective arrows.
TommyCreo
I just see the net result. Android vs iOS?
DukeDarkwood
Well. Hunh. And there's no way on a desktop?
ikindafail
Huh. I've been using Mobile for years and not a single version of Imgur has shown the amounts.
Snowman0HK
Me either... what are you talking about. It only ever showed / shows number of upvotes for me.
UltraXar
I love Chris Rock but this special was a rare miss. Also, anybody notice he changed faces?
Whatyatalkingabeet
Was a shit show really
CyranoDeBurlapSack
As a white guy who has no issues with authority I found his stand-up to be very unrelatable and as a result it did not make me laugh much.
dajakers
I am white, found it funny, but that is me.
WardSharlow
Weird. How does it feel to not be part of the target audience for a change?
Tunaccat
"Representation doesn't matter! I don't even see race!" -angry white people whenever they're not represented
motherFockerisinspace
Y'all need to clam ur shit .always got to fight. just OREO it man. You know black and white coming together to make something good.
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
I'm confused? Do I need to clam my shit and then oreo it?
OwenMillerOnline
It's a pipe dream to expect 100% of the workers in any institution to be shiny paladins with no flaws.
rooik14
We can dismantle the blue wall of silence and people protecting their "brothers". That shit can die. We don't see this shit in the military.
OwenMillerOnline
We can agree on that, I know from experience it is very difficult to report misconduct without terminating any chances of career advancement
frecklesaremyfetish
but do we blame the airlines for the bad pilots??? we dont, we make it about the individuals. and lets be honest, we do with police.
enderite
We would blame the airlines if they covered for the bad pilots and enabled them to keep crashing into mountains.
dudeondudeaction
What? Yes we do. There was a whole issue of pilots flying too many hours ten or fifteen years ago. Jesus man.
Ellimem
Serious question: Is it still happening, or were there regulations put in place that changed that behavior from happening?
dudeondudeaction
You know, I can’t rightly say. There’s a Frontlibe episode on it but it’s fairly old. That’d be a good place to start.
stormostorm
No new regulations, 8 hours flying 14 hour total duty days, recently the FAA has implemented controlled sleep in the cockpit to combat this.
stormostorm
The main factor is better pay in the past couple of years, better pay, better conditions, rested pilots. Also you can buy better coffee.
frecklesaremyfetish
how was that about individual pilots???
WardSharlow
Because the police defend each other fanatically, even when they know they're in the wrong.
UrKungFuNoGood
what if the plane had a feature that may or may not kill the pilot w/o hesitation and it faked the circumstances often. How often do you
UrKungFuNoGood
think the pilots would turn that switch?
TinyRocktopus
What?
UrKungFuNoGood
what to me? no what to you. you think pilots and police face the same kinds of challenges? smfh
TinyRocktopus
Dude are you having a stoke?
spickate
Licensed Pilots in US 2015 - 590,039 NTSB reported incidents 2015 - 1,282 1/3
spickate
Sworn in Police Officers US 2017 - 900,000 Police Involved Shootings Ending in Death of the Suspect US 2017 - 984
spickate
Unarmed Suspects Killed US 2017 - 51 3/3
segfaultytowers
Source on those noms?
DontTalkToMeOrMyWaifuEverAgain
first I found https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/
mishalala
Why are you comparing different years? That's weird.
stormostorm
I don't even know what he is comparing. Deaths? Those NTSB reports are mainly equipment failures and hard landings.
DrSparken
*Reported* shootings. Independent investigation finds it's underreported by at least half. Also, NTSB incidents include "turned in the 1/
DrSparken
wrong place and hit a sign." Which I don't care about *nearly* as much as people dying. 2/2
Ellimem
Again, you're working off of incomplete data on LEOs, and complete data on air travel. It is skewed data, and you know it.
spickate
I was just looking for some numbers for comparison. Personal opinions aside. I agree, not enough actual hard data for cops due to corruption
WardSharlow
It also includes "all incidents" which includes everything from dying from a heart-attack to crashing a rescue helicopter in a wildfire.
Frogthebountyhunter
What do you define incidents? Also licensed pilots could count people not from airlines
gigglypilot
NTSB 830 defines accidents and incidents. If it was an incident, there can’t have been any fatalities or even serious injuries.
Rips4w
I'm sorry, but the human affliction of being a piece of shit transcends career choices. We shouldn't have bad apples anywhere, Chris.
wrekemrobbie
Yes, everyone should be perfect but that's not going to happen. Thanks for the bright idea though.
Rips4w
Hey you figured out my cryptic message!
rooik14
His point is that there are some jobs where you can't have shitty employees and it has to be strict. A mcdonalds employee being shit is 1/
popejubal
Bad apples exist whether they "should" or not. So maybe we should deal with that fact and make sure they don't get to stay cops.
rooik14
2/2 not as bad as having a shitty cop.
WardSharlow
There are some jobs where it doesn't matter much. In general, it matters less if the asshole isn't paid to carry a gun all day.
TheLegendaryBonk
Most of what he said in this special was shit but this is accurate.
Patches3000
I laughed my ass off at this special. He could’ve got rid of the religious trash but yeah, still funny.
DTownFunkyStuff
His worst special for sure I got to 30 minutes in and had to shut it off
PandraPierva
Sigh I miss the old him and not the new one.
BatLadyRielle
Marlon Wayans though was hilarious. He addresses some of the same things, but it's funny rather than ranty
Sweetcharade83
That shit was hilarious.
GodsGoodGraceShedUntoThee
Yeah was dissappointed. Jokes were way to pandering. Couldnt even finish it.
natistar
Same....
majorslut
How do you know he was pandering and not just expressing his opinion
TakotsuboOkazaki
C’mon bro add the extra “o”....
GodsGoodGraceShedUntoThee
What's that now
DBSOempathy
The jookes were way to pandering? Well that don’t make a lick of sense.
TakotsuboOkazaki
See what yew did there.
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rhcpmuse911
Hardly. His whole speech about divorce and marriage wasn't PC at all
SomeDetroitGuy
There are bad pilots. That's why commercial planes are full of shit to keep them from crashing into mountains, including a redundant pilot.
JayEnfield
Remember, 50% of people in every occupation are below average.
theguywiththevoice
A pilot's partner stops him from fucking up. A cop's partner helps cover up the fuck up
711isAnInsideJob
Of course there are bad pilots. That's why Fox Force Five was dropped.
TouchdownTommyandtheFunkyBunch
Well except...you know that one time
professionalmadman
Yeah but if they fuck up once they either die or get fired.
MrMagoobar
A crazy percentage of pilots have fallen asleep at the wheel. The plane does a lot of the work yeah.
hiig
After the GermanWings incident, if one pilot wants to take a piss, one of the cabin crew must first be present in the cockpit.
minkuschild
Drugs. Booze. And more drugs. Why do you think you never meet your pilot anymore?
PilotOfTheCaribbean
Lol, I wish
PataRican
Everything is redundant other than the nose antenna
PataRican
2 of everything
TomfromSpace
3
ToasterDent
Not engines
TomfromSpace
That's what the etop's rules are for.
Tunisia
Don't police officers tend to have partners?
LostHonour
Depends on the role and task. Highway patrol is generally solitary in a lot of countries and US states.
Tunisia
Do the corrupt and/or incompetent cops tend to be highway patrol?
LostHonour
No, you actually need to have a fair degree of self confidence and trust to operate solo consistently. I'd say they're more officious>
LostHonour
>eg most gen duties cops I've talked to hate giving out tickets, but you have to be fairly happy to do it in highway patrol. I think this >
therobisaur
As an avionics tech, that is to assist them, NOT dp theor job. A shit pilot not running through his checklists can kill everyone.
therealzerobot
He doesn’t say “there are no pilots who accidentally fly into mountains,” he says “like to fly into mountains.” Big difference.
hiig
You'd have to screw up big time to accidentally fly into a mountain!
ProphetofEntropy
hate to break it too you but there are pilots who cover their suicide with an act of mass murder. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 for one.
DrSparken
Yeah no that's not what happened there. We wouldn't have tracks of it hours later if it was a suicide.
ProphetofEntropy
lol, 3 breakers to depressurize the cabin, 30 mins of oxygen in the cabin for crew 10 for passengers, reinforced cockpit door cause 9/11 /1
ProphetofEntropy
cockpit oxygen runs over an hour for 2-3 people so 1 person has plenty to wait till everyone in the back is dead, then just fly to /2
ProphetofEntropy
oh, and how get your copilot out of the cockpit to lock him out? "can you grab me a coffee?'.
ProphetofEntropy
the fact that people are still debating if that's what it was shows why its been done.
LostHonour
Pretty much. And the situations in terms of the job and what you have to deal with are not even remotely similar.
SandboxMagician
Sorry for the downvote but you were at 667.
etcnotect
Now go back and upvote him since he's past now
SandboxMagician
I just did. Thank you kind stranger.
atTheRealMAD
I too don't like my pilots repeating
MikenSan
It didn't help the Germanwings flight :-(
WardSharlow
So, one out of how many?
EvilEkips
If you want to, you can always crash a plane as a pilot. The tech just helps and corrects, it won't stop a nosedive if you initiate it.
HarryPotterGeek
Yeah, but when a pilot fucks up and kills someone, they don't just say "Yeah, being a pilot is like that sometimes."
GooglePrediluvian
If a pilot kills someone, it's evident they did something wrong; if a cop kills someone, it could have been, and (most)likely was justified.
bobziIIa
the actions of the pilot are severely recorded and investigated by an agency who’s completely independent. Cops not so much.
MrSniffles
As a pilot, it's far more cut and dry than being a cop. I don't deal with people, the most unpredictable and volatile thing on the earth.
ToasterDent
"This Captain MrSniffles speaking. We'll be landing in 30 minutes, then you can be off my plane you load of miserable bastards."
MrSniffles
Here Here! I don't fly people thankfully. Besides passenger shenanigans, that's an enormous responsibility flying so many lives. Cargo!
Beekerseeker
There are cases for cops when it is cut and dry and the rest of the police force still cover for them. Planting evidence and such.
MrSniffles
Few and far between in the US. Severely punished if proven true. Some pilots have illegally flown under the influence. Bad apples happen.
StannisBaratheonEnglishGrammarian
My brother-in-law is a pilot, and he's always said that he wouldn't want an airline job because flying big jets is boring.
PhronesisIsForgotten
Ya... you don't get to shoot anyone
MaverickGoose2020
Sure but a lot of money in cargo.
coldwargofast
Most pilots are just happy to get paid doing what they love. I’ve never met an airline pilot who hated it. Only way most keep their wings
hiig
Many pilots working for the ME3 hate it. Money is great, but that's about it.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
I knew a guy who only flew Jumbos. Said he'd retire the day the last of those was grounded, because he didn't want to fly a computer.
DrSparken
Psst ... all 747s have been massively computerised for decades.
TheSexiestRaccoonEver
My friend’s dad is a pilot. Naturally, he aimed to follow. Got 1/4 through training and said it was too boring to pursue as a career.
DigitalMau
boring enough to crash the plane to see what happens?
YourUserNameIsWittierThanMine
I never met a pilot who hated life when they were getting paid to fly
MisterRaunchyMudslide
It definitely can be but every pilot has their own preference on the type of flying they like to do. Some people love the airlines while 1/2
MisterRaunchyMudslide
others enjoy a flight lifestyle that can be more customized to the flying they enjoy. There are all sorts of different flight jobs out there
BetterAtAltitude
Any job on the ground seems boring.
Thezach930
Username checks out +1
ImNotTaylorSwift
That's why I work on the 11th floor. Fuck those stupid groundies!
ToasterDent
3rd floor here agreeing with you: We have the high ground!
Syrmerlin
So what you are saying is we need more redundancies and failsafes in policing.
imawreck
Woh, that’s heresy in these parts. (All of them)
Ohfishyfishyfishyfish
yes
XenomorphZZ
Clearly we need those fancy 'stun' guns from psycho pass
BronzeLeaguePro
That's why cops walk in pairs. That's why you rotate them around. Etc.
spiceass9000
That’s gunna get really expensive really fast. Also most likely make police actual job impossible to do
afriendinneedsafriendindeedafriendwithmemesisbetter
It's already to the point where bodycams are useless and the public still has to record everything.
Bystandr
The need for oversight of authority increases with the power of that authority. Its pretty much a law of society.
Darkspire
Maybe some oversight that ISN'T also the police?
TheYoungGod
No & yes. The 1st change has to be culture. My job is consulting w/ "high reliability" orgs. Current police culture impedes HRO principles.
Mexicohere
That would be the cop bro culture
SomeDetroitGuy
That's actually an AMAZING idea.
MrAgrijag
Ok, now convince people to pay for it. Oh, you got shot for wanting people to pay more taxes? :(
idrinkcheapbeer
That's actually COMMON SENSE.
derpon
Don’t be coming into my town with some common sense
ThePizzaGuyOfJustice
Isn't that part of the reason there's usually two cops in a car?
travertato
That practice is pretty much long gone. Most departments have a single officer patrol car to keep costs down. Hard to say in 140 characters.
iamspartan1262
Like the body cam and having other oficers snitch on each other
segfaultytowers
And changing the DA system so that they are chargable
ButtsMcGee86
Fuck, make it like the military and dishonorable discharge them so they even have a hard time getting a job at McDonald's.
WelcomeToTheShatterdome
Police are chargeable for criminal offenses, and in many cases the charges carry heavier punishment.
Flyndaran
Bull shit. In many places it's legal for cops to have sex with those in their custody.
segfaultytowers
Ya got any source for that, because there's plenty of evidence to suggest the contrary. The guardian did a good piece on it and there's more
blurb
Certainly chargeable, but I'd argue that most of the time, they get LESSER punishments, from written law and in DAs' and judges' choosing.
qussow
Instead of saying snitch, why not something like "report gross abuses of power and authority". Seems a tad less judgemental.
Kodaxmax
because its the same thing and trying to hide it just makes it worse. tattletale on its own always ends in tears
CaptVito
Or like if you see something, say something like the police like to tell us to do.
ShutUpSarah
Seems a tad more ethical and professional.
iamspartan1262
I agree for most cases but they encourage you to snitch for literally anything like eating in the car or listening to your iPod.
qussow
And while I agree that sort of thing is silly, I think we can both recognize the difference between that and stuff like planting evidence.
Razblaze
How about it we make it a crime for officers to mysteriously have their body cameras off too? I've read more than a couple articles that
iamspartan1262
Some places have body cams that are always on.
Razblaze
essentially state "person shot, police body camera was off". That does not make me have faith in our police.
Razblaze
Just program the camera to turn on whenever the officer exits his vehicle or unholsters his firearm/taser.
SpaceISIS
i get what's he saying, but that's a rough metaphor. unless mountains routinely attack planes, or dangerous one look exactly like innocents
darkbunnyrabbit
The mountain looked threatening!!
confanity
Shouldn't dangerous people looking like innocents make you shoot *less* often, to avoid killing innocents? De-escalation is a thing.
SpaceISIS
true, so is ignoring danger signs. For example
-dressing like a thug can be confusing when seconds matter
confanity
So, I'm confused. Is there a specific "thug" costume that only thugs wear, or do dangerous people look "exactly" like innocents?
SpaceISIS
specific gangs wear specific attire, yes. Also specific colors and tattoos, often with zip codes or specific gang names and monikers
confanity
My point is, when in doubt, *don't murder a human being*. De-escalation tactics exist and need to be taught and used more widely.
LostHonour
They do, and they don't always work and aren't always applicable to the situation. If you reach for something in your jacket and I think>