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In 1967, Ali refused induction into the U.S. Armed Forces due to his religious beliefs. As a result, he was arrested, fined, stripped of his boxing license and title, and found guilty of draft evasion. Though Ali was prepared to pay the price for his convictions, the Supreme Court reversed the decision in 1971, ruling that his refusal stemmed from his constitutionally protected religious beliefs. Ali regained his title in 1974 and retired from the ring in 1981.
He has since devoted his life to helping promote world peace, civil rights, cross-cultural understanding, interfaith relations, humanitarianism, hunger relief, and the commonality of basic human values. His work as an ambassador for peace began in 1985, when he flew to Lebanon to secure the release of four hostages. Ali also has made goodwill missions to Afghanistan and North Korea; delivered over $1 million in medical aid to Cuba; traveled to Iraq to secure the release of 15 United States hostages during the first Gulf War; and journeyed to South Africa to meet Nelson Mandela upon his release from prison. His recent attempt to free two American hikers held captive in Iran reinforces his tireless commitment to promoting freedom, tolerance, and humanity around the world.
*As a Marine in a volunteer armed forces, I may not like the fact that Ali used religion as a reason to get out of the draft, but Heros are not only Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors and Marines, but boxers, football players, baseball players and golfers are as well. Firefighters, Paramedics, Teachers, Scientists and even Farmers are as well.
Don't discredit someone as a hero because they are not YOUR hero.
KittenVonCatsworth
Here I was, all ready to downvote you from the index because it only showed the image.
ItsNoir
Ignorance is bliss, knowledge is power, and idiots are idiots. Always accept good info and other viewpoints.
Tyrannotron
If we believe soldiers are the only heroes, then we deserve the war torn world we live in.
begentleitsmyfirst
Personally I believe that standing up for what you believe in makes you a role model more then a hero. There's a difference between the two.
hotdogtime
Your ending is perfect. Heros don't have to be universally accept but who you define as a hero based on their actions and influences.
YELLOWTOAD
Good post OP!
NoUserNamesLeftToChooseFrom
My hero can beat your hero in a fight any day.
TheZabadabadoo
Using this logic, why would you be called a hero for killing other humans?
staringfrog
Wow, when you read this whole thing without reading the simple 1 word title, it really makes you look like an ass. Glad I caught it.
TPOLR
On behalf of all servicepeeps; They may not be a hero years into their military career, yet at one very important time they laid it all out.
TPOLR
When they (not knowing their futures) took the Oath.
TPOLR
I'll discredit a hero when the "hero" hasn't actually done anything heroic. Informing us of Mohamed Ali's efforts help his deserved credit.
theaterofdreams
The man was a racist, sexist conservative Muslim who refused to condemn terrorism for fear of angering Muslim fans around the world
InternetSavage
People seem to only believe there is one type of hero or that a hero in the eyes of one should be the same in the eyes of all.
iseebeaver
I'm pretty sure they're trying to take it Medal of Honor away for not doing ssd1
iseebeaver
Pretty messed up
imahoaxnacoach
Dying while deployed in the army is not heroism, is occupational hazard. It's their job. Ali was a hero because he was against stupid 'nam.
imahoaxnacoach
So I agree with OP just to be clear.
MrDrImgurMD
OP is saying both are heroes. Certainly dying itself isn't heroic but dying fighting evil certainly is. Occupational hazard is an insult.
JPre35
not to you..but many to their loved ones they may be a hero..i think thats what OP is saying
WabbitCZEN
Fuck yeah. Good read OP.
soundproofwall
Depends on how each person defines a hero, military does not always mean they are a hero, it's what they stand for even a every day (p/1)
soundproofwall
Person can be considered a hero
itsdarkandicantseewhatimtyping
Being in the military doesn't make you a hero at all, it's what you do with what have that makes you a hero.
caffeineandcreatine
That last sentence could not be anymore true regardless of the situation. +1 for your inspiring words op
CanTunaPiano
The truth about Muhammad Ali https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgouwh2Ir6Q
cpnbeeb
And to say nothing of this re: veterans http://taskandpurpose.com/sebastian-junger-we-need-to-stop-over-valorizing-veterans/
krapmyself
A soldier is a professional performing their duty. They do not become heroes until they go above and beyond that line of duty.
walkertalker0000
Tippster
US Society is fetishizing military service these days.
theaterofdreams
It's the ultimate form of sacrifice. And considering how veterans are treated after they return there's virtually no upside to enlisting
kman224
The meaning behind the post is great @op but you really need to think about that picture. It seemed like you were going to say Ali can't 1/2
kman224
be called a hero because he never served, and that only people that served in the armed forces are worthy of being called a "hero" 2/2
NtaLzr
It's kind of the point. It makes you angry, and you read because you're mad, but then "AHA!" It hits you. :)
kman224
That's a totally fair point, well done.
czaarticus
Why does everyone bring up Ali's draft refusal? He clearly had a good reason not to fight and he stuck by it, that to me makes him a hero
czaarticus
Im not aiming this point at you, im just saying in general
theaterofdreams
He was a racist, sexist homophobe who was no better than the white racists of his era
ChancesAreIHateYou
Doctor giving a kid a shot: you're being so brave right now! *person slams door open*: BUT NOT AS BRAVE AS THESE SOLDIERS
MoooCow
Soldiers aren't as brave as soldiers getting shots.
MajorPenguin
You forgot about the Anti-vaxers coming in behind them to strip the doctor of their practice.
cpnbeeb
That person is the same that goes out of their way to offer up the "thanks for serving" despite repeated urging by vets to not thank them.
BairaagiVN
Child in burn ward: owwwww *person flips hospital bed*: SOME PEOPLE HAVE TESTICULAR TORSION YOU SELFISH ASSHOLE
erock111
Nobody is braver than Gaston!!!!!
DaryltheDeathclaw
Ain't no one got your favor like Gaston!
ProfessorExpert
*kool aid dude busts through wall* "hey! Caitlyn Jenner is the bravest person on the planet! Ohhhh yeahhhhhhh"
JohnnyJarkoAndHisJackrabbits
Goddammit Macho Man, I just finished renovating that wall
MrDrImgurMD
As a soldier nothing pisses me off more than people like that. Soldiers certainly can be brave but the pedestal treatment is ridiculous.
Nicalanius
Me too. Self righteousness is not the way to go
CyrilFigis
You're so brave for saying you're not a hero. But for real, thank you for your service.
doobey123
Ugh I hate these comparison posts. Both people are legends in their own way. This whole "this guy is more of a hero" is childish.
theaterofdreams
Look if you want to confine a person's praise to their sports career or legacy, fine, but when you start calling Ali a great human being 1/2
theaterofdreams
or visionary hero, that's when you open it up to criticism. Joe Louis was a hero, MLK was a hero.
NtaLzr
That.... Was the point.
doobey123
I know, I was agreeing, I admit I didn't word it very well, apologies.
NtaLzr
Then have your updog!
fuckpuffins
Thank you for not making this a puffin.
EzraFell
Username checks out. Unless... Should I ask about the other interpretation?
henrycamron
Thats because its not an opinion its a fact
fuckpuffins
That is your opinion.
thisaccountdownvotes
As a Marine vet, true story
Pandaphant
So you take care of dolphins, or?
thisaccountdownvotes
Just your mom's pussy
Pandaphant
So "Marine Vet" means 12 year old kid, apparently. All the butthurt
thisaccountdownvotes
LOL sure, mate. All the butthurt of a 12 year old.