Fixing Bad Front Page “Facts” with a little OC Science

Jan 19, 2017 9:39 PM

Hey everybody, I saw the above picture on the front page today, and I wanted to clarify something so that this won’t keep getting spread around. First of all, while this “did you know?” is wrong, it really wasn’t pure shit posting. We USED TO think that eye color acted this way, but recent studies (see linked paper below) have disproven this thought. So the question remains, how IS eye color inherited?

Well, before I start, I need to mention two simple concepts to make sure you don’t get lost in the explanation.

To start, in the VAST majority of cases, humans inherit two copies of a gene (one from each parent). These two traits can interact in TONS of ways or not at all. Here is a list of the most simplistic ways they can be expressed.

Complete Dominance: One is expressed while the other is ignored.
A good example of this is dimples. If you have dimples you either:

Carry one dimple gene (D) and a non-dimple gene (d) making you a mix (Dd)
or
Two dimple genes (DD)

The only way to have NO dimples is to have two non-dimple genes (dd).

Incomplete Dominance: Both of the traits you got from your parents are expressed which results in a mixture of the two.
A good example of this is Pink Roses.

A red rose has two Red genes (RR)
A pink rose has one Red (R) and one White gene (r) making them (Rr)
A white rose has two White genes (rr)

Codominance: Both parent’s traits are expressed independently without mixture.
A good example of this is in blood type. You can have either an A gene (A), a B gene (B), or an O gene (O). O blood type is the absence of a blood type.

If you have the AA combination, you have 100% A on your blood cells.
If you have the AO combination, you have 50% of A on your blood cells.
If you have the OO combination, you have 0% of A or B on your cells.
If you have the BO combination, you have 50% of B on your cells.
If you have the BB combination, you have 100% of B on your cells.
If you have the AB combination, you have 50% A and 50% B on your cells!

As you can see, they are equally expressed with neither showing up more than the other!

So now that you know some basics, let’s talk about what happens in reality and eye color. In reality, one gene rarely codes for one characteristic. Skin color, for instance, has TONS of genes that result in the variety of skin colors we see. Eyes are a similar situation, but they CAN be simplified down a little easier than skin color.

First, there are two major genes for eye color: The Brown Gene and the Green-Hazel-Blue Gene.

The Brown gene is Complete Dominant. This means that if you have the brown trait (B), then you will have brown eyes regardless of your other trait that you inherited.
Example:

Brown Eyes:
Two Brown Traits (BB)
or
One Brown Trait & One Not-Brown Trait (Bb)

Not Brown Eyes:
Two Not-Brown Genes (bb)

The Green-Hazel-Blue gene is Incompletely Dominant. This means that the traits can mix.
Example:

Green Eyes:
Two Green Traits (GG)

Hazel Eyes:
One Blue (g), One Green Trait (Gg)

Blue Eyes:
Two Blue Traits (gg)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your eye color is NOT determined by the pigment color spectrum like paint! Your eye color is determined by the light color spectrum!

Well, it gets even MORE complicated. The Brown Gene is TOTALLY dominant over the Green-Hazel-Blue gene. This means that if you have EVEN ONE brown trait, then you will have brown eyes.
Example:
BbGG is Brown Eyes, because you have a brown trait.
BBGg is Brown Eyes, because you have a brown trait.
bbGG is NOT Brown Eyes, because you DON’T have a brown trait. If you have two Not-Brown traits THEN (AND ONLY THEN) will you be able to have blue/green/hazel eyes.

If this is still confusing here’s a Flow Chart that I made that might help. I just noticed while uploading that my words got cut off.
Bottom Right Arrow says "Two" on itBottom Left Arrow says "One" on it

Also, the first box should say "Did you inherit a Brown Eye Trait?".... Doh....

A FINAL NOTE: There are other genes that can disrupt this pattern that aren’t well known. Further, the shade of blue/green/brown can vary due to mutations in the gene or environmental factors. This is the simplest eye color can be explained! Hope y’all enjoyed!!

DOG TAX. This is Rosie. She's a little bigger now, but still likes cold stone surfaces.

Sauce: http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v56/n1/abs/jhg2010126a.html (as well as a genetics textbook)

Upvoted halfway through because science, then I saw the doggo and tried to upvote again. I am SMRT

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think this was really interesting. Thank you for explaining it, @OP. Plus, fluff is a cutie!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have hazel eyes with a brown splotch in the lower left eye. My grandma's cousin's grandkid has the same splotch. Genetics is (are?) weird.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's called sectoral heterochromia! It's heritable! Neat!!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My mum has brown eyes but somehow I've ended up with hazel eyes, how does that work?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Depends on your dad's eye color, but if your mom has a dormant "Not-Brown" gene and so does your dad, that would cause your eye coloration!

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Why are mine green and gold?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Mutations in the green eye gene can cause slight variation in green coloration. The same goes for all the other color genes.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Can anyone explain my eye colour? My eyes were brown from birth to around age 25, since then they've slowly changed to a light green. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 I'm 45 now, if that matters. Dad has blue eyes, Mother has Hazel/ greenish.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hey! I couldn't tell you for sure, but that sounds like an environmental change! Hormone changes have been show to change eye color.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Huh, I got diagnosed three years ago as type two diabetic, but the change had started long before that. I wonder

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

eyes tell you how full of shit a person is, blue means no shit.

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What if I have a tinge of green, or it sometimes appears grayish?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like tse way you're thinking.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

I have brown eyes ;(

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How would you explain 2 brown eyed people having a blue eyed child?

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If both parents have a brown eye gene and a not-brown eye gene then they would have brown eyes, but could each give the child a not-brown(1)

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Gene resulting in blue eyes! (2)

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Awesome- thank you!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The original image was so full of shit it's eyes were brown.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What happens when your eyes are 4 different colors

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's called heterochromia. Lots of different causes. Yours is probably a mutation and possibly heritable.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And if your eyes change colour?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Combination of scattering of light, pigment pattern, and the incoming color of light!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You lost me part way through, but I'm glad I hung until the end to see Rosie. What a cutie!

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I've heard that all people with brown eyes actually have blue eyes? If you do a procedure you can always remove the brown? Is that true?

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Brown is deposited in the front and blue/green is deposited in the back IIRC so in a way, yes.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I hear they do laser eye procedures so can attain blue eyes if you have brown. Kinda wanna do it lol.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's in the works for FDA approval IIRC! Pretty neat!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Imma be a blue eyed asian boy!!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

IIRC it's in the works for FDA approval! Pretty neat!!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have central heterochromia: light brown in the middle and dark grey around the outside. Mom had brown eyes, dad has really weird grey eyes

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Youngest sister has dark brown eyes, middle sister has weird green/yellow/brown eyes that freak people out. Her daughter has blue eyes

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sounds like y'all have a variation that alters pigment deposition! Neat!!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Me too, but I got some green between the brown and grey

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My eye color changes.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is due to the way light scatters. Everyone's eyes (except the VERY dark brown) will have some variation. Some more than others.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So my bf and his brother have blue eyes. His dad has blue eyes but his mother has brown.is this punnent square stuff?So he's the 25% chance?

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Dad: bbgg, Mom: Bbgg or BbGg. bbgg x Bbgg=50% of blue eyes. bbgg x BbGg=25%. Probably the first one considering it happened twice!

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Okay so OP, can you explain for me why my son has blueish/ greenish/ grayish/ hazelish eye color. While his father and I have both brown eye

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Also, he has golden blonde hair. His father and I both have brown hair. Where did my son hey these traits from? what were the dominant trait

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I can't speak for hair color, but the eyes are very possible. If you and your husband have BbGg or in other words have a gene for (1)

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Brown, Not-Brown, Green, and Blue. This would result in y'all having Brown eyes because Brown is dominant! When you gave y'all's DNA to (2)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

your son, he just happened to get both the not brown and a green and a blue eye color. The chances of that happening are ~12.5%! (3)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh wow that's amazing! Thank you for that explanation.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Skimmed it...Looks like you knew ur shit +1

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have sectoral heterochromia iridium (green eyes with a brown splotch on my left eye)....what happened??

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh boy, sectoral heterochromia can have a LOT of causes. Sometimes it's purely genetic, sometimes its a developmental variation, trauma (1)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

can also cause it! (2)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

....am i adopted?!

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Current picture of Rosie plox :P

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OP Delivers: http://imgur.com/KxHKW3Q

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Not sure @OP understands what "little bigger" means. Dang thats a handsome doggie.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Thanks! I may have been under-exaggerating lol. The pic makes her look way bigger though. She's a little over Beagle sized!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wow. Rosie looks way bigger than a Beagle. Good post BTW.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My mom has grey/blue eyes and my dad's are brown. Mine are hazel. Is that common? From this it sounds like mine should just be brown.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Your dad has a brown and not-brown gene, you got the not-brown gene which can make your eyes green, hazel, or blue.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's the genetic reason, what's the actual mechanical reason for the color? IE how is the blue or green created

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It is a scattering effect. Similar to why the sky is blue.

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To elaborate, light scatters when it collides with a cloud of particles. The colour you see in eyes are a result of reflected light

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I.e Blue eyes reflect blue light more than other colours, so blue light appears as the most intense. Hence the eye appears blue.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Reflection of the white light off the pigment creates color depending on the amount/type of pigment.

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Now you made me read, it's quite complicated and elegant at the same time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_color

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Both my parents have brown eyes and my brother has classic brown eyes... mine are a grey/blue/green mix with zero brown in them :/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And what if I have gray eyes?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Another grey-eyed person??!?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's more of us than you think

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Most likely a variation in your blue eye gene which caused a color change!

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

can confirm. Started off dull blue, faded even further to grey over childhood.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What about if my eyes change around between green, blue, and grey?

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That's just what color light is hitting your eye and the way it is scattering inside your eye! Blue/Green coloration is due to (1)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No, I mean at one point they're green, and I'll come back in a week and look at them in the same mirror and conditions and they're grey

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That doesn't happen. Your eyes can't shift colors.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

pigmentation in the back of the eye which allows for light to scatter inside your eye and create varying colors! (2)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What about really dark brown eyes (just barely not black)? Both of my parents have that trait, but it seems to lighten with age

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

TL;DR original 'Fact' is wrong and lots of science

9 years ago | Likes 222 Dislikes 0

I wouldnt say lots...just a little. A little bit of science.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Science of the actual science kind, not the usual Imgur "science" type.

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

So how then does a brown-eyed person have a blue-eyed kid? I see it all the time in my family. Is the brown-eyed mother just dark-hazel?

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My husband and I are both dark eyed and one kid has green eyes and the other has very light blue eyes. I found your question for my answer!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If the mom and dad both have a Brown and a Not-Brown gene then the kid could inherit one Not-brown gene from each parent & get blue eyes!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks. Makes sense. Happen to know why blue can vary between bright blue and dark greyish-blue? We have a lot of both and little in-between

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Probably a mutation in the gene. Coloration can vary on the spectrum depending on how much it is deposited and the genetic code. Since (1)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

your family has a lot of one end or the other and little in-between, it is most likely to different blue gene variants (2)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So if I have blue eyes and my wife has blue eyes and my son has brown eyes, that bitch be cheating.

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Brown is recessive dominant.

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Not necessarily, but it's not an impossibility.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All grandparents have blue eyes, parents have brown including my brother and I have green with hint of brown

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My mom had green eyes, my dad has blue, my twin brother has blue/green, and I have brown. So...this genetics thing can be confusing

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

and then she have black eyes

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wish I had thought of this comment. +1

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My teacher always said two blues can make a brown but two brown can not make a blue.

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Bobtheboiler posted an article explaining it just above you, there is a separate gene that activates the pigment gene and it can fail to 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To activate the pigment production causing eyes without pigment, meaning blue.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

False. My parents are both brown-eyed, and I have green eyes.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Hey never said she was right lol apparently most of my teachers weren't

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My parents both are brown. I'm blue. My ex was blue, our kids are are all blue, too.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All four of my kids have different eye and hair color. 2/4 have freckles the other two have a "beauty mark" genetics are weird. Same father.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or are the eyes a light brown and might actually be hazel? Depending on the shade you might think they are brown. Me, my wife and my son 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

2/2 have blue eyes. My daughter has hazel. They were actually blue when she was born but changed.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

i thought almost everyone had blue eyes at birth? Anyway, my dad has brown (actually brown) eyes and two non-brown eyed parents.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The darker the skin the more likely to be born with darker eyes, lighter skin then more likely blue or blue-gray. My son had very blue 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

all of their lists make it sound like they are surprised by the results "Oh? Ooh. Ohh? Oohh."

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

My mom has green eyes and my dad has blue eyes and I have dark brown eyes. Dad and I have same rare heart defect, so he's definitely my dad

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

Same. Minus the heart thing. Sorry about that.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Totally cool. Played four years of D2 rugby and I didn't die, so it's probably fine?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ayyy, rugby bro

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Same here. I have a dark brown eyes and a skin color little bit darker than my parents.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are you sure about your mom tho?

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Asking the real questions. Impressive.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

After a childhood of always being called my mother's name because I'm a clone of her......no not really

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Ok, so I have just straight green eyes, but my mom and dad both have brown eyes and my sisters have hazel. My paternal grandma had blue (1)

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My mom was adopted so I don't know what her biological parents had. Everyone else on my dad's side has brown or hazel. How did I get green?

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Both of your parents have a recessive (dormant) "not-brown" gene. You got both (25%) chance. They also have green eye genes that didn't (1)

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show up in your mom or dad b/c the brown in the front of their eyes covered up the green. You got both genes that coded for no brown (2)

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so your green eyes showed through! (3)

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Thank you!! I was always curious because when I was younger, I had hazel and my Lil sister had brown. But when we go older, mine changed (1)

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To green and hers changed to hazel. So it was just interesting especially considering my paternal grandmother had blue.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Everyone on my dad's side has brown eyes, mum's side all have blue. I have green/yellow. What the fuck happened there?

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

He's not your real father.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well some other asshole gave me a bum chin then.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Lots of possibilities. Your Dad is BbGG or BbGg and your mom is bbgg is the most likely reason!

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

My parents, brother, and sister have DARK brown eyes and hair. I have blue eyes and hair that darkens, blonde>dirtyblonde>lightbrown in 20s?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Makes sense. My dad (and his fmly) had light brown eyes, my mom had green but her fmly had all blue eyes. My brother and I have hazel.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Omg.. I thought I was the only person to ever describe my eyes as yellow! Hello yellow eyes! And not hazel, GOLD motherfucker.

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One kid used to "insult" me in school by calling me lizard eyes. I always thought it was totally epic.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I always tell people I have cat eye color. I have yellow eyes too.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

yeah! I've def been called cat eyes

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I want to see what that looks like

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That's awesome! And yes. I would say that's yellow! Thank you btw

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you're welcome :)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Can you take a picture of your eyes? I've never seen that and am genuinely interested

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Commenting cause I've only ever eard of people ith hepatitis having yellow eyes.

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Yellow sclera means hepatitis, my iris is yellow

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That's awesome! Thank you! They look cool!

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You're welcome! Thank you!

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