and almost every single one of these will end up paying for itself in the end, and then some (possibly all depending on how you look at it, but, if it's not all then the ones that don't are still morally correct)
So, for comparison, we could pay 100% of school teachers, 100% of fire firefighters, medical care for all veterans, public housing for everyone, and medicaid for all children, for 292 Billion. The pentagon is wanting 200 billion dollars.
Well, 12.7bn, but I'd imagine a lot of the actual cost is either running costs that would happen anyway ( paying the staff and other operating costs), or the cost of using inventory, like a missile, is paid for upfront, so it's not like you can divert this money to other sectors.
you have the same problem as the Roman Empire: you have tortured, killed, raped, bombed and starved so many people in the rest of the world, that as soon as you can't pay your military ... the whole planet will come to kick your ass
The most cynical and pessimistic analysis I watched said that the U.S and Israel are destroying the Gulf's oil and gas resources on purpose, or rather getting Iran to do it for them. Then they in turn will obliterate Iran's resources, effectively annihilating the whole region's wealth.
This will result into decade(s) long global depression. Israel will get the territory expansion. And the U.S will get astronomical prices for the oil and gas resources it will be exporting.
Due to the insane prices the U.S will be able to tap far more oil fields that were previously not profitable due to low barrel price.
Plus, there is Venezuela. The oil companies will also tap that source, restoring production to maximum.
And thus, with no end to ming-boggling yearly profits, the U.S will start to pay off the national debt. In effect, they will drain the whole world's wealth for their benefit.
Also, the Greatest Depression will allow the billionaires/big corporations to swoop in and grab up most of what is still currently owned by individuals in a mass consolidation of wealth and push the entire world towards a rental society instead of an ownership society.
So, the American empire, right now has an authoritarian demagogue in power, has mass unrest at home, nearly to the point of boiling over, is vastly overextending and overcommitting its military power, and has an exploding national debt. For those keeping track at home, these are the things that come riiiight before the collapse.
Exactly. I read a take someone gave of a politician vs a businessman before. The difference they mentioned was that a businessman takes risks using the their own money with a major stake on the success. A politician takes risk with other people’s money where if things go well, they get to claim credit but if it goes bad, it’s someone else’s problem.
if it goes good, GOOD JOB.... if it goes bad, most problems dont become evident immediately sooo wait til a Dem is in power then blame Dems AND THUS get a "goodjob".
That is true…but I think even with big businesses, the amount of responsibility they take on, how ever little, is still way larger than anything politicians typically takes on.
DevilsAdvocat
and almost every single one of these will end up paying for itself in the end, and then some (possibly all depending on how you look at it, but, if it's not all then the ones that don't are still morally correct)
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
At this rate, $200bn would fund about 15 weeks of a war supposedly already won and wrapping up.
OneUniverse
Tax billionaires a billion a week until the debt is paid off.
Trondason
So, for comparison, we could pay 100% of school teachers, 100% of fire firefighters, medical care for all veterans, public housing for everyone, and medicaid for all children, for 292 Billion. The pentagon is wanting 200 billion dollars.
mareli82
Well, 12.7bn, but I'd imagine a lot of the actual cost is either running costs that would happen anyway ( paying the staff and other operating costs), or the cost of using inventory, like a missile, is paid for upfront, so it's not like you can divert this money to other sectors.
Wholivesinapineappleunderthetree
29bn for ICE
EroticZombiePants
Look at the numbers roll: https://www.usdebtclock.org/
TheRealArclight
friendsofsandwiches
raymm
Hell of a political system you got there, America.
RemtonDulyak
"But I don't want to help others!"
Cheeto
thatwoodguy
Wasn't it ice and Howard that said military spending like this is an Abomination when people are hungry or uneducated?
UnlimitedTrickPony
you have the same problem as the Roman Empire: you have tortured, killed, raped, bombed and starved so many people in the rest of the world, that as soon as you can't pay your military ... the whole planet will come to kick your ass
Stincoman
3.6m is really tall for a child
mrsdowneyjr
This doesn't even factor in the increased cost of living for global citizens
Bundalicious
Helping others does not generate profit.
pintgudge1975
Regime change in the United States now!
sfbiker
The Pentgon is asking for $200B for war costs (so far).
Tol1as
The most cynical and pessimistic analysis I watched said that the U.S and Israel are destroying the Gulf's oil and gas resources on purpose, or rather getting Iran to do it for them. Then they in turn will obliterate Iran's resources, effectively annihilating the whole region's wealth.
This will result into decade(s) long global depression. Israel will get the territory expansion. And the U.S will get astronomical prices for the oil and gas resources it will be exporting.
Tol1as
Due to the insane prices the U.S will be able to tap far more oil fields that were previously not profitable due to low barrel price.
Plus, there is Venezuela. The oil companies will also tap that source, restoring production to maximum.
And thus, with no end to ming-boggling yearly profits, the U.S will start to pay off the national debt. In effect, they will drain the whole world's wealth for their benefit.
EroticZombiePants
Also, the Greatest Depression will allow the billionaires/big corporations to swoop in and grab up most of what is still currently owned by individuals in a mass consolidation of wealth and push the entire world towards a rental society instead of an ownership society.
onecowboytoo
Fuck those kids. They have already been born. /s
Neednoggle
So, the American empire, right now has an authoritarian demagogue in power, has mass unrest at home, nearly to the point of boiling over, is vastly overextending and overcommitting its military power, and has an exploding national debt.
For those keeping track at home, these are the things that come riiiight before the collapse.
Aurzyerne
Reminds me of a video I'd seen a few months back: https://youtu.be/xs2nBl43hhs?si=7bzpU8nLp_OuANCr
DataBeardFace
Don't threaten me with a good time
friendsofsandwiches
Not sure how that'll be 'good', but...Yeah, can't sustain this shit.
jgjgjgjgjgjgjg
"But war is more fun!" -- Drump and all MAGAts
Equitaur
But they are asking to get 1.7 T T Trillion for the next military budget.
GratuaCuun
That's nothing - Pentagon officials just entered a demand for 200 billion that the war hawks in congress are *slavering* at the thought of passing
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MWh3anducW16dGNmYWxqYTJrejE2dnFsMW43ajRlMmpnaXFwYXFrcSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/1ktwfTjwaQzde/200w.webp
Ptronoh
*salivating
GratuaCuun
Slavering - to drool or leak saliva or some other substance from the mouth. As a dog would when presented with a bone
hogeyegrex
This, beyond the time and a half increase in the pentagon’s budget already passed.
But we don’t have the money for healthcare.
clonedeeznuts
We have war care instead
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
trump won't have any idea what any of this means, give it to him in terms he'd understand: 30% of a ballroom.
PowerPedant
What? It's 42 ballrooms.
westellar
You don't know what the final budget will be until it's actually built.
mksu
What does he care? We're paying for that ballroom and this war, not him.
stayingalive4life
Exactly. I read a take someone gave of a politician vs a businessman before. The difference they mentioned was that a businessman takes risks using the their own money with a major stake on the success. A politician takes risk with other people’s money where if things go well, they get to claim credit but if it goes bad, it’s someone else’s problem.
Mumalot
if it goes good, GOOD JOB.... if it goes bad, most problems dont become evident immediately sooo wait til a Dem is in power then blame Dems AND THUS get a "goodjob".
mksu
That's only true of small businesses. Large businesses also take risks with our money and get bailed out if they fuck up.
stayingalive4life
That is true…but I think even with big businesses, the amount of responsibility they take on, how ever little, is still way larger than anything politicians typically takes on.