People ask why there's a need for physical media ([offline] video games, books, movies, etc). It's so we don't give away our position to the enemy. I still haven't bought a Microsoft console since the XBOX One presentation.
Oh My! *Such* security!! So any idiot (normal user) who doesn't know what a location service is will leak locations any time. And what makes you think using a VPN would help? The app is recording a GPS location and sending it to the server where it is made public. But at least the data was secure in transit!
Did someone check Marine Traffic to see if they were also publicly broadcasting the ship's position via satellite for collision avoidance at that time?
Aircraft carriers are pretty easy to find, just look for the floating city with planes taking off. I’m pretty sure the giant antennas blasting radio waves are a tell.
It was going very slow: he was running (significantly) faster to the back of the ship than the forward motion. Granted, a serving soldier will probably be a lot faster than me, but even when magnified a lot, this only shows forward motion (me running on a cruise ship): https://imgur.com/5qehOXV
i helped a friend with a new iphone after i told her about corporations stealing/selling your data, did a youtube search. found some non-political channels showing what to turn off. they all r astonished politicians/regulators r allowing this level of spying/stealing. 99% of people i meet have no idea to turn this off. default is spying everything. Dems r fools for not making this a campaign issue! iPhone iOS 26 SCARY Privacy Settings To Turn Off Now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQE-OBW9hkk
i've posted for years BREXIT was a US/Corp/CIA operation to break the EU. EU is the last entity on earth to have minimal protections for citizens. US Corps absolutely hate the EU. does the EU allow ISP to spy on customers like US does and sell that data? what if ISP is selling military employees data compromising operations? Trump Signs Measure to Let ISPs Sell Your Data Without Consent https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-measure-let-isps-sell-your-data-without-consent-n742316
But with satellites and various forms of intelligence, don't governments and militaries pretty much always know where other countries' ships are anyway?
People have no idea how immense the ocean is. The horizon is 3.24mi (5.2 Km for normal people). There strait of Hormuz is ~36mi.... And that is a narrow Path. If it is more than 12,5mi it disappears behind the horizon.... No image the ocean 3000mi of water.....
I seem to remember something about a sudden uptick in users in a corner of a desert where there weren't supposed to be anyone, yet there were plenty of users jogging the same route at times that aligned with 8 hr rotation.
Russia tops this. When Starlink stopped working for Russians, they tried to get Ukrainians to register the dishes in Ukraine. The Ukrainian army then setup fake accounts, collecting the dish info AND got payed for it. They took down down like 70 dishes and made a couple of thousand dollars.
Russia is providing Iran with satellite-based reconnaissance capabilities. Even if the individual no longer has Wi-Fi access, Putin continues to assist with tracking.
When a park ranger was asked why we don't have bear proof garbage cans: The overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans is bigger than you think.
The largest aircraft carrier has an area of about 280,000 square feet on the flight deck
Compare that to the ocean, which has an area of about 735,941,601,120 square feet.
Someone who’s got more time to run the numbers can figure out how large a proportionate object would be in a standard bath tub, which is maybe 10 square feet on the surface.
I haven't checked your numbers, so using those as provided the aircraft carrier occupies a space equivalent to 0.00000038 of the ocean, so the equivalent in a bath tub 10 square feet / 0.93 square metres in surface area would be about 0.000548 square inches / 0.353 square millimetres, which is about a third the size of a head of a pin (much bigger than a red blood cell).
Place a red blood cell onto a tablespoon of water, and assume it won’t sink. Then have a thousand people look at the spoon. Do you think any of them will find it without specialized equipment?
Maybe they could lose sight of it on open seas but in the Mediterranean? Nah. Anyone who the ship is relevant to will have it tagged when it passes through the Straights of Gibraltar if not before.
bourbonandbaddecisions
I remember back in 2015 a memo went out about disabling geo location on phones while deployed because of shit like this.
thekadeshi
lol okay but that’s a pretty dope thing to have on your global heat map
RXJ235231
People ask why there's a need for physical media ([offline] video games, books, movies, etc). It's so we don't give away our position to the enemy. I still haven't bought a Microsoft console since the XBOX One presentation.
LokisSenseOfMischief
This is why military members are told to turn off any and all location services and use vpns when they deploy.
GuyGordon
Oh My! *Such* security!! So any idiot (normal user) who doesn't know what a location service is will leak locations any time. And what makes you think using a VPN would help? The app is recording a GPS location and sending it to the server where it is made public. But at least the data was secure in transit!
Unfortunate500
Don't blame the sailor for bad IT security
SecurityBadger
So, are the loops him turning around and walking the other way on deck, or is the ship occasionally circling (executing a "crazy Ivan")?
availlableusername
Just our boy Jesus "Arthur" Christ doing his morning jogging
Pelican3
FFS Charles
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Did someone check Marine Traffic to see if they were also publicly broadcasting the ship's position via satellite for collision avoidance at that time?
SpecialContainmentProcedures
I forgot the French had an aircraft carrier
lonelyrangerofthedreams
Strava: we create embarrassment and potential security breach on military forces since 2016!
LeftRightThere
Aircraft carriers are pretty easy to find, just look for the floating city with planes taking off. I’m pretty sure the giant antennas blasting radio waves are a tell.
thekadeshi
Alright. Tell us where one is when you see it, k?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Plus sattelites exist.
obarey
Also they don't work alone, they are part of a carrier group.
ricpaul
It was going very slow: he was running (significantly) faster to the back of the ship than the forward motion. Granted, a serving soldier will probably be a lot faster than me, but even when magnified a lot, this only shows forward motion (me running on a cruise ship): https://imgur.com/5qehOXV
DamnYourePretty
Probably no props, no anchor and orders to maintain presence so they are just drifting on currents.
lurkingalwayslurking
C 3
Ghnhx
DYLANLEE79
Hey at least it wasn't Grindr this time.
Tandom
That's not a bad idea, place a bunch of WIFI-bouys and have them ping when someone uses grinder nearby.
NozzleBozzle
Not really required In The Navy
Macwalrus
Maybe he wasn't a republican
DobbyOneKenobi
They typically don't hold Charlie Kirk vigils in the middle of the Ocean.
DYLANLEE79
But shouldn't they? No boats though!
OnFridaysWeWearBeskar
Such Gaulle.
MajorNikon
distractedFreek
HashMaster9k
sfrinlan
It's okay, France. We just invite reporters directly into our private military signal chats.
Imalwaysready
Sounds like an off-brand sugar substitute.
obarey
Aircraft carriers are famously difficult to spot.
DrKonrad
Fucking connected apps I swear
Timesarrows
i helped a friend with a new iphone after i told her about corporations stealing/selling your data, did a youtube search. found some non-political channels showing what to turn off. they all r astonished politicians/regulators r allowing this level of spying/stealing. 99% of people i meet have no idea to turn this off. default is spying everything. Dems r fools for not making this a campaign issue! iPhone iOS 26 SCARY Privacy Settings To Turn Off Now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQE-OBW9hkk
Timesarrows
i've posted for years BREXIT was a US/Corp/CIA operation to break the EU. EU is the last entity on earth to have minimal protections for citizens. US Corps absolutely hate the EU. does the EU allow ISP to spy on customers like US does and sell that data? what if ISP is selling military employees data compromising operations? Trump Signs Measure to Let ISPs Sell Your Data Without Consent https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-measure-let-isps-sell-your-data-without-consent-n742316
BeakerJones
But with satellites and various forms of intelligence, don't governments and militaries pretty much always know where other countries' ships are anyway?
SomeUser2
People have no idea how immense the ocean is. The horizon is 3.24mi (5.2 Km for normal people). There strait of Hormuz is ~36mi.... And that is a narrow Path. If it is more than 12,5mi it disappears behind the horizon.... No image the ocean 3000mi of water.....
3Davideo
Also, radar
Micro2112
Not the first time that data has exposed military sites
Detacheddavid
Like using Pokemon Go in a base in Afghanistan.
Kaze54
My favorite was using quizlet for security questions and codes on a nuke base.
nefroye
Guessing though that nuke base locations are pretty much well-known by the people that really care about such things.
Kaze54
Oh no, its not the locations, it was the security routes and actual codes needed at doors and gates on base.
nefroye
Doh. Yeah I didn't quite get it but I see now. That'd be... bad.
Jyx123
Yeah, Strava in particular lit up American bases in the Mideast, didn't it?
UneventfulLover
I seem to remember something about a sudden uptick in users in a corner of a desert where there weren't supposed to be anyone, yet there were plenty of users jogging the same route at times that aligned with 8 hr rotation.
Evi1Gav
Yep. The route was around the base perimeter, so it not only located them, it gave size and external dimensions.
WackyWavingFlailingArmTubeMan
Jesus fucking christ. No opsec debriefs?
DidaChikDumaChum
Dumbest example that comes to mind was Russian soldiers using tinder in Ukraine
Bastiroid
Russia tops this. When Starlink stopped working for Russians, they tried to get Ukrainians to register the dishes in Ukraine. The Ukrainian army then setup fake accounts, collecting the dish info AND got payed for it. They took down down like 70 dishes and made a couple of thousand dollars.
DarthWaiterSE
IIRC, they were getting catfished by Ukranian soldiers which is *chef's kiss* levels of duplicity.
Detacheddavid
They clicked on the ad "Meet Russian women near you"
damogen
I seem to remember that the site of the manhattan project was discovered because of the large number of comic book subscriptions.
Zetor
Paracetamol, 50mg
WebDragonG3
PalaverQuader
? what
Zetor
doctors prescription.
PalaverQuader
ahhh!
michiyl
Someone just lost their wifi privileges
CallMeCourierSix
Why the fuck are smart watches even allowed on a military ship? That's a fucking huge security risk.
Timesarrows
a boat went out and took this picture of it
WeirdoIIC
That US-built Nimitz-class Carrier is the French warship Charles de Gaulle?
PicassoCT
YouPorn always knows where every soldier on the planet is, come night..
SteersAndQueers
Come night. Come day. Always time for a combat jack.
PicassoCT
The army delivered the poles - yet the tent is standing..
Thorketil
Russia is providing Iran with satellite-based reconnaissance capabilities. Even if the individual no longer has Wi-Fi access, Putin continues to assist with tracking.
ariania
Yeah, working in these sectors i can promise you that they already knew. Unless the ship had total radiosilence and a major touch of luck.
phattyduck
Could be worse: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2024/09/03/how-navy-chiefs-conspired-to-get-themselves-illegal-warship-wi-fi/ (my BIL was a chief on a different ship in the same class when this went down)
weegee101
Christ. What a stupid way to fuck your career up. I've known some dumb E-8s but this takes the cake.
azazyel
You think IT would have caught that
ReallyOG
They spared no expense on IT!

Ebo352
When a park ranger was asked why we don't have bear proof garbage cans: The overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans is bigger than you think.
Ragganmore
I think the average bear is smarter than the average human tho...
squillis
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1M2cwNmo4MGtoNHdsd3h2YzFyb2o5c21uZnJwaDBsZzZyNHd6ZTJkaSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/VaQ5kBkdhhd9S/200w.webp
Dawgsarethebestpeople
Just in case someone missed the 42500 metric ton brick against the horizon
necessity
It's a stealth carrier.
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
It was disguised tho...
PotatoPirateTheThird
well looking at the map, i still don't know where it is. so i need all the help i can get
DerpMeister
https://maps.app.goo.gl/wiFZzCcfH63HSPSNA
3Davideo
That is in the Mediterranean Sea, south of Turkey and west of Cyprus.
PotatoPirateTheThird
wadatahmydamie
The largest aircraft carrier has an area of about 280,000 square feet on the flight deck
Compare that to the ocean, which has an area of about 735,941,601,120 square feet.
Someone who’s got more time to run the numbers can figure out how large a proportionate object would be in a standard bath tub, which is maybe 10 square feet on the surface.
thedarkdesert
I haven't checked your numbers, so using those as provided the aircraft carrier occupies a space equivalent to 0.00000038 of the ocean, so the equivalent in a bath tub 10 square feet / 0.93 square metres in surface area would be about 0.000548 square inches / 0.353 square millimetres, which is about a third the size of a head of a pin (much bigger than a red blood cell).
Omicron416
About a two thousandth of a square inch.
wadatahmydamie
So about the size of a human blood cell in a bath tub
shalafi71
Mostly irrelevant. There are 1,000s of ships in the Med, and they have radar. Expand your ship's surface area to "the horizon". :)
wadatahmydamie
Place a red blood cell onto a tablespoon of water, and assume it won’t sink. Then have a thousand people look at the spoon. Do you think any of them will find it without specialized equipment?
shalafi71
Again, ahem, RADAR.
wadatahmydamie
Sure.
May as well never conceal positions of troops and materiel because rAdAr
ForlornFennec
Aircraft carriers are big, sure, but the sea is much, much bigger.
3Davideo
And that's just peanuts to space.
Jordan7831
Not as big as your mom. Sry couldn’t help it
Dawgsarethebestpeople
Maybe they could lose sight of it on open seas but in the Mediterranean? Nah.
Anyone who the ship is relevant to will have it tagged when it passes through the Straights of Gibraltar if not before.
3Davideo
Also, radar.
Frankasti
Ding. Ding. Ding.
3Davideo
One Ding Only.
ForlornFennec
It was camouflaged as the island of Malta on the way in.
Dawgsarethebestpeople
Yeah that would do it
StNickCage
Ah the old Maltese Horse.