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Texmaniac
Insomnia297
And yet as a culture, you're a weirdo if you don't drink.
LuckyMan9
Marijuana just makes the youth laugh at all the self serious adherence to institutions. Makes adults deal with adhering to them.
PaulyParker
GomezAtTheDebOfNight
Rec > med > extracts > dead
Khaotix11
Just because it isn't as bad as something doesn't mean it isn't bad at all. I'm okay with it, just don't pretend it's not unhealthy.
DerpNerpem
Highschoolnickname
This supports an argument to ban alcohol, not to legalize weed.
NightButtFairyHawk
longblacktubefullofseamen
IAmJacksRagingBileDuct
Q: How do you know if someone smokes pot? A: Don't worry, it's all they'll ever talk about like anyone gives a fuck.
Zombeavers
Obviously smoking weed makes you so super fucking cool that you need to share it with the world! /sarcasm btw
Trickyboomboom9191
I knew you were lying after 30 deaths every day in car crashes due to it. Most of them would have just stayed home and not driven at all
TheBigBadWolf999
Ya because they are too busy fishing for change under the couch seats so they can buy a bag of chips at tje market down the street. :p
BluMinFlyer
I heard that if you get too high when you're high then you're not high anymore....science ...phisics.. *passing on*
thraxcres
I mean weed isn't good for you either. It fucks up your lungs and is linked to schizophrenia. No drug is good for you. Most don't even break
thraxcres
Even. I love a good joint as much as the next man but if an entire country was full of stoners nothing would get done.
mbberry828
Theres to many people anyway
robyniebobynie
Fun fact: people that smoke, only ever want to talk about what they are smoking.
sorryImHigh
Um what?
duudycalls1
Jeutnarg
Ya know, that's a really low bar to pass
AWarningToOthers
You got Jeff Sessions all worked up you tease.
YourFriendSquid
I almost felt bad about being currently high, take your +1 good fellow
Ruven
Comparing a bad thing to a bad thing isn't a very good argument for the middle ground.
lawideas
But seriously, don't drive stoned. You're just as impaired as you are with booze. (1)
lawideas
(2) The only reason the stats of stoned-driving deaths aren't higher is because they rarely check for pot when there's a crash.
wildatheart499
In terms of car deaths I doubt it. Any source for that? It's more likely it's just less people smoke weed then drink alcohol.
Misfire5150
But it's the devils lettuce...
Dracoshroob
And salads are good for you
JFLDisciple
I prefer, frolicking in the devil’s flower patch
shutsman
Devil makes some fuckin dank salad
VladimirsKacs
Eat your greens, my child.
buckwheatpancake
Lucifer’s quinoa
GenerallyKenobi
Jazz Cabbage!
gizmo123456789
4e6f6e65
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/fd/24/affd24f347ef03508cd19481d18978b4.jpg need we say more?
Ruven
Yeah, because its not true at all. I can be high and still be in a mood to do harm. I just started smoking. It's no wonder drug.
Mikeiller
you don't have to be in a mood to do harm. You can hurt a lot of people just by doing something really stupid
4e6f6e65
The vast majority of stoners, mellow out while on it. While the vast majority of alcohol consumers get aggressive. The chemicals in weed 1/
4e6f6e65
Actually causes you to become mellowed out. THC in particular does this: https://www.leafscience.com/2017/11/22/thc-cbd-difference/ 2.
Ruven
So you're saying make them both illegal? You cant compare a bad thing to a bad thing. They both have risks. Weed isn't some holy drug.
Ruven
People have died by smoking and people have died by drinking. Be honest that they both have risks. I live and voted for legalization in NV.
4e6f6e65
When did I ever say about making it illegal? My counry (Canada) is LEGALIZING weed this year. Look at states that have legalized it 1/
AnalTelescope
I support weed legalization but god do I hate the alcohol comparison argument. Please fuck off with that. Its flawed logic
wildatheart499
How exactly it simply shows Alcohol a legal regulated drug causes similar if not more damage then cannabis would?
Sheepdroid
You're right, the comparison is insane, alcohol related incidents are off the charts. It's not implying one is good and the other bad.
AnalTelescope
Its not about the nature of the comparison, its about how a comparison is a logical fallacy.
dontmindmepls
How? Mind altering substance vs mind altering substance?
AnalTelescope
They are different mind altering substances with different effects and different markets. We have to focus on weed alone, and why it should
AnalTelescope
be legalized. Not, oh that thing over there is legal, so lets fuking legalize weed for some goddamn reason
Sheepdroid
The comparison is made because there is no reason for alcohol to be legal compared to many other drugs, not that hard to understand rlly.
AnalTelescope
to society. And that's where your argument should be. That it wouldnt do harm; That its illegal nature is already effective etc.
Sheepdroid
How could it possibly harm to society? Explain to me how taking drugs of the streets into regulated stores is harming society?
AnalTelescope
Alcohol is legal because its damn near impossible to make illegal. Weed is already illegal, and legalizing it could potentially do harm
Sheepdroid
Harm whom? Dozens of studies have already shown (plus some nations) it lesses drug abuse and brings in extra cash in taxes.
AnalTelescope
Ffs you idiot. Cant you see the word "POTENTIALLY"? It would be damn stupid when making a speculative decision not to consider its possible
AnalTelescope
consequences. And once again, I am not saying that it would do harm. Just that that is where everyone's arguments should be
OrcLuck
To be fair, if your family has a history of mental illness you don't want to do drugs. Schizophrenia really ruined my drive and energy lvls.
Mikeiller
or a history of heart conditions. Weed can aggravate heart conditions horribly.
wildatheart499
So can alcohol which is the main point. Why should one be legal when they both have similar risks?
MyMisspentYouth
I haven't heard anything about heart issues. Any sources please
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MyMisspentYouth
Looked at other sources, there not enough evidence that marijuana use either increases or decreases most risk factors for heart disease.
MyMisspentYouth
Just so little research data so far. https://www.livescience.com/61536-marijuana-heart-health-review.html
nicholaswells
This wouldn't be an issue if we carried guns to protect us from alcohol.
TheVakarian
Or hatchets and syphilis!........google Carry A Nation folks.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
No we ban guns then people won't need to drink. Damn don't you know how the world really works.
LuluTheLucario
Drunkfu
They go together so well because they both can do shots.
HodgePodgekin
I love you +1
SomeCrazyNerd
CHRISTIANITY WILL SAVE US FROM THE MARIJUANAS!!
thefrisbeewasgettingcloserthenithitme
I like you.
ensensu
Can this concept be an Enter the Gungeon mod?
SlightlyDodgy
Most problems can be fixed by shooting the source of the problem. Politicians cause problems.
KoiwiGoiy
I wish I could upvotes this comment more than once
Dayjo
Isn't just more alcohol we need to protect from the alcohol?
nonamejanie
OlanDyurai
JNied
You.. You don't carry an anti-booze gun?
Tornadotaco
No it's the good alcohol that needs to be armed.
fitlex
Yeah it's hard to drink a beer when it's trying to shoot you
GoldenSour2
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Sauce?
iynkapp
No, beer.
domestomp
Texas legalized open carry law for swords. Use a claymore!
PaperBagel
I FEEL dumb for thinking "But isn't that an explosive?"
imanatheistdebateme
Remember to point it away from yourself.
LrrrRulerofThePlanetOmicronPerseiVIII
THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY
PaperBagel
What if I'm known enemy?
domestomp
i like your thinking! enchanted swords +15 fire damage on hit
imgurforants
A claymore is also an explosive, so don't feel too dumb. :P
packardcaribien
Pot is less harmful than alchohol or tobacco, but some people go so far as to think it's entirely harmless or stoned driving is fine. Wrong.
LeadByBadExample
Yeah, cannabis is gonna turn you into a vegetable, alcohol will kill you. Neither is good for recreational use.
AngryTeacher
Yes. I had an ex who drove me while he was high once when he knew I wasn't comfortable with it to prove he could.
sorryImHigh
I’ve read that adolescent use of weed can lead to some irreparable probs, but I started when I was 23 so I’m fine (; it’s worth the wait!
fathogwrestler
Wrong. No one thinks stoned driving is fine.
packardcaribien
The internet is full of articles on whether or not it's okay, so there are presumably enough people who are unsure of its safety to (1/2)
packardcaribien
merit such articles. And while I know this is anecdotal, it disproves "No one" : my parents have/still do it and think it's fine. (2/2)
ViolentPotato
I know quite a few people who's main hobby is smoking and driving
fathogwrestler
And they know it's wrong.... doesn't stop drunk drivers either
RoodKontjeAapje
It's the same as with guns and all those other things people can be nuts about. They can be real stubborn about it.
packardcaribien
I'm not really understanding the comparison to guns?
RoodKontjeAapje
There's gun nuts who think gun ownership can cause no unintentional harm at all and there's no thinkable reason to induce any control.
packardcaribien
True, everything has it's extremists, but not sure why guns was the first choice. They might have a point w/ the slippery slope thing tho.
RoodKontjeAapje
It's a topical example.
Ihadsexwithadragonlastnight
know a few long time heavy pot smokers and they all very aggressive. dont know the link but its an interesting statistic
Ihadsexwithadragonlastnight
compared to the people i know who dont smoke it as heavily.
LeadByBadExample
That's not a statistic, it's an anecdote. I'll add, though, that of the heavy smokers I've been in contact with, 80% of them have been >>
LeadByBadExample
>> extremely aggressive on days where getting high was impossible, the rest have just been snappy or prone to make really bad decisions.
Ihadsexwithadragonlastnight
truetrue. could be if you did the math and stuff but otherwise ya, just an observation. my bad
LeadByBadExample
Well, there's nnot really much math to be done if you don't even bother eliminating your own bias,.
AreYouHappyNow89
Just because it's not as bad doesn't mean it's ok. So many ppl I know think it's harmless and it bugs me. I am 100% for medical use.
packardcaribien
I don't approve of my friends/family who use it now (nonlegal state), but I take the economic standpoint that all drugs should become legal.
ILikeQuiteHeavyMetal
The legitimate medical usefulness has been massively overstated. It has a place but it certainly isn’t a panacea for all ills
PacificJesus
It’s been overstated in terms of what it can help, but there are some people who practically can’t live without a form of supplements
ILikeQuiteHeavyMetal
The largest patient group who have been prescribed medical cannabis are males age19-29 with no medical conditions
ILikeQuiteHeavyMetal
Totally agree. I'd say the best approach is to deal with the fact they can't live without supplements rather than medicalise a narcotic
PacificJesus
Either way it needs to be reclassified as a narcotic. As a schedule one it’s almost impossible to preform scientific research about it. 1/2
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
There’s also some issues with long term side effects from regular use. It’s nowhere near as bad as other things, but non-negligible.
Spongybunny
Yet our gov says alcohol and tobacco side effects are totally acceptable? We have a fucked up system that doesn't care about the details.
packardcaribien
Well the government *tried* to ban alchohol. It didn't work well. Of course neither has the war on drugs.
Spongybunny
Oh yeah, I'm not saying 'ban alcohol'. I just think people are idiots if they think weed is bad because it's illegal, but alcohol is fine.
packardcaribien
I'm no bioligist, but afaik the THC or whatever is moderately bad for adults but terrible for developing brains. I also understand (1/2)
packardcaribien
that by volume weed smoke is notably worse than tobacco. Obviously no one smokes 2 packs of joints a day, but it's also non-negligable. 2/2
packardcaribien
Wait, after all this, I probably shouldn't say "No one" definitively. But that would be an impressive marijuanna habit.
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
You’ve clearly never been to college.
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Needs more peer reviewed studies, imo, before widespread recreational use. But it’s federally illegal so funding is scarce.
MellyBaskelly
http://theconversation.com/cannabis-and-psychosis-what-is-the-link-and-who-is-at-risk-95368 I haven’t read it yet. Give me a tl;dr if you do
whatmustido
tl;dr: Inconclusive clickbait. "Needs more study"
MellyBaskelly
Thank you. Now I don’t need to feel guilty about not reading it.
packardcaribien
To be fair, almost anything could benefit from further study. We do have to draw a line. In this case, the line is still very far away.
NotPapaEmeritus
I'm a fairly avid smoker but I think driving high is worse than driving drunk, I can't understand how anyone thinks it's okay
robo133
when I'm high I feel like I think about my actions a whole lot more. Thinking about driving would freak me out. Drunk me needs a key holder
llamalibrarian
I'm the same way- I'm extra cautious stoned.
tomatojoee
Have you driven high before
NotPapaEmeritus
I've never driven impaired and I don't plan on it
shibbytothelibby
I don't condone it, but I know lots of people who smoke and drive and never had accidents. The ones I know of who drank and drove got in 1/2
shibbytothelibby
accidents every time.
benayises
Driving stoned on average isn't as bad as driving drunk, typically because the driver goes so slow people can avoid them easier
packardcaribien
I won't touch the stuff, at least until it becomes legal, but I'm not really sure; supposedly it's *less unsafe* than drunk driving but IDK.
Showmeyourotters
I wouldn't call it worse, but I think driving under any noticeable influence or w/ any distraction is irresponsible. Including driving while
Showmeyourotters
For the record, I'm also a regular user but save smoking for when I have nowhere else to be. I refuse to drive or go to work high.
Showmeyourotters
angry or tired.
Sheepdroid
You have never been stoned or drunk before, ever.
NotPapaEmeritus
I'm intrigued, what makes you think that?
Sheepdroid
Compare walking drunk to walking stoned, now take this experience and copy it over driving, which one is harder to do, honestly stoned?
Sheepdroid
It's not completely the same, I get this, I'm positive I would not be able to drive while drunk, stoned would be a challenge but doable.
NotPapaEmeritus
I said in this comment chain that I've never driven impaired. Think what you want but that doesn't translate to never being impaired period
TranceEnding
My little brother uses marijuana. He's crashed 3 of our cars while impaired and poisoned my dog three times. Took dog to hospital yesterday.
TheAssassinArtemisEntreri
Stop killing their circle jerk!
orangecicle
Your brother is a cunt who can't keep his stash out of the way and doesn't give a shit about hurting others. He'd be this way w/out weed.
420supercoolusername69
Sounds like your little brother’s an asshole. Marijuana seems to be the least of his problems.
RednapxpandeR
DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER
1Person
I would heap blame on your brother, not his recreational activities. Sounds like a standard issue cunt, stoned or not.
PaulyParker
I smoke weed. Not once I felt the need to danger others by driving. I have 2 dogs & when I’m high I cook them bacon as they look sad..
GoldenSour2
Alcohol forcefed to you, you are also responsible for taking them in the first place. 2/2
PaulyParker
Weed normally makes people calmer... so at this point you probably shouldn’t be blaming the weed but your brother for being a shitty human
GoldenSour2
Thank you. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. Some things may influence your actions but unless you had drugs or 1/2
wildatheart499
Correlation is not causation.
TranceEnding
Poisoned as in marijuana intoxication according to vet and my dog's symptoms.
McGreed
Yeah, well you can kill a dog with chocolate, but I don't hear anyone wanting to ban that.
wildatheart499
If that's how your brother is on weed it's likely he is still dick without it.
saturnscape
Again he's an asshole and marijuana isn't to blame.
manimatr0n
So alcohol isn't to blame for the stats in OP's post either, glad we agree.
orangecicle
It's not. The people who drink it irresponsibly are to blame.
saturnscape
Honestly? No. It's irresponsible assholes who drunk drive after drinking themselves to oblivion.
ThermoNuke
Doesn't the same round about way of reasoning apply to alcohol as well?
somenerandom
Yes it does. But imgur is circlejerky and some people seem to think weed has no negative effects whatsoever.
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saturnscape
If someone poisons their dog with alcohol is it alcohols fault? No. It's the fuckwit who did it...
theyjustcallmeD
@traceending ... ? a.) marijuana is illegal and booze isn't! b) you're stupid! c) my dog doesn't like vodka d) sorry, you're right.